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(@tergonaut)
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I have this cheap GPX MP3 player that's served me for a couple of years, but the buttons have already been a bit tricky, requiring several seconds of pressing the tiny play key to activate it, and I have to press it very hard to make sure it registers...and now the buttons are getting off-kilter so I can easily turn up the volume, but turning it back down it difficult without accidentally hitting the volume up button again.

Long story short, I'm interested in getting a new MP3 player because this thing I have now may not function at all soon enough. But it's hard to look at MP3 players and figure out if their buttons will work better than what I've got right now. So that's where you come in, dear readers: give me your good recommendations of MP3 players that work well, have a good interface, and, ideally, play music.

This can also be a thread discussing experiences with MP3 players, doesn't have to be strictly recommendations.

 
(@trudi-speed)
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I own a Sony Walkman which works well if you don't mind paying a premium I guess. Since your current MP3 player was cheap I'm guessing Sony might be out of your budget but I'll tell you about it anyway.

I own a NWZ-A828 because I wanted bluetooth capabilities - something which I don't really use any more but it was neat when I used it. They came with bluetooth headphones so I could have the walkman in the living room while me and the headphones were in the kitchen. They have a range, of course. My house is pretty small so I can go to more rooms before it starts losing signal. It was especially useful when I was still reliant on public transport since I didn't end up with wires tangling around all my bags and portfolios and stuff. The walkman's battery was understandably shorter when using the bluetooth capabilities but it tended to outlive the headphones battery life by a considerable amount anyway. I thiiiink the headphones lasted around 4 hours, I don't really remember now.

These days I just tend to use a cassette adaptor so I can listen to my walkman through my car's stereo.

I've owned mine for at least 2 years now and it's still working perfectly fine. It's got a decent battery life of around 10 hours continuous play (non-bluetooth). The sony website advertises 36 hours so I guess I'm not charging mine long enough? I don't know. A problem earlier Sony MP3 players had was their need for proprietary software but I'm pretty sure they're all drag and drop now. Mine is at any rate.

The only problem is it's very tricky to get music videos on my particular model but since I don't put music videos on it anyway it's a non-issue for me.

It's got four buttons on the front - the large play/pause button, a thin bar-type button that surrounds that and forms the directional/ff/rw buttons, a small menu/power button and a likewise small back/home button. The volume button is on the side and can be knocked, which can be annoying. It does have a hold switch which is pretty standard of course but considering how easy the volume is to knock I thought I'd mention it anyway. I've found the interface pretty easy to navigate myself, not that different from a standard mobile phone in it's menu page. I only really use the Music and Options bits anyway.

Of course being sony it's got a proprietary cable. But hey, that's pretty standard for them. Irritating, but typical.

Um yeah this turned out to be a bit of an essay didn't it.

 
(@gyserhog)
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In before Apple/iPod hatred.

Speaking of, being that I'm not much of an audophile when it comes to actual sound quality, and really just wanted an MP3 player with a heap of space for all my music, the iPod Classic is good for that. Stores heaps, easy to nagivate, plus you have the option of putting movies on there for those long road trips. Not to mention a lot of stereo systems these days have an iPod jack of some form, meaning I can take my iPod to a friends place to show them the new album I just got.

Of course, there are some downsides. Using iTunes to start. I hate this program, I really do. It's a resource hog, it's crap to navigate. Yeah, there are some freeware alternatives, but I've found all of them to be worse which I thought to be impossible. Some iPods are also incredibly fragile, liable to break at the drop of a hat. Mines lasted through a lot, so I may have just gotten lucky with a good one, but I've seen drops of mere millimitres on to carpet which resulted in a massive screen crack. And as previously mentioned, they are not the greatest for sound quality. Quite passable, but not the greatest. If your music is encoded at a decent rate, it's generally not noticble unless you've got a good ear for music.

To sum up the iPod Classic;

Pros:
- Heaps of space, although you do have a decent choice in sizes when it comes to iPods so there's one for the gentleman with a smaller collection.
- Easy to navigate via Artist, Album, Genre, ect. The iPod Wheel takes a little getting used to but then becomes second nature.
- Is kind of the industry standard, so compatible with lots of things, and a good range of accessories if you need them.
- Compatble with MOST major music formats.

Cons:
- iTunes. It's a horrid monster, but nessecary to get that music to your iPod. Also has a terrible habit of taking it upon itself to re-arrange all your music.
- Will either be made of adamantium and be totally indestructable, or will shatter in a slight breeze.
- If you're massive on your music and have a good ear for it, you may not like the quality you hear. Speaking of, doesn't support FLAC (Excluding older iPods via third-party software).
- Can be a bit pricey depending on location brought from. Part of that money is for brand name.
- You may have to deal with people who find it their moral duty to inform you of your unwise choice in music players, and how much it is comparable to a vacuum cleaner (That is to say, sucks) especially when placed next to theirs.

 
 Srol
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Terg: Might I humbly suggest that you keep a weather eye on Woot.com? I bought a nice and stylish Sansa Clip there a few weeks back for about $25. They're even having a Woot-off today, so a good deal could come up any minute now.

 
(@trudi-speed)
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Let's not forget that if you plug your iPod into someone else's iTunes it can delete all your tracks 😀

I dunno why you would do that but I know several people who've been caught out by that one

 
(@sailor-unicron)
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I've used the Philips GoGear series for a while now. I got my first one around 2005 or so, and it only just died this year. Little thing held up longer than I thought it would.

They tend to be cheaper than Sony's and I was able to get a small 4 GB one for $40.

 
 THS
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My first mp3 player was a 4th generation iPod 20GB. Obviously things are a lot more advanced from there but I think in the Classic range the differences are only incremental, ie. colour display and video support. Could be mistaken, haven't looked into it too much. For general usage, I can't say I could complain, but what really got me was the fact that I ended up spending £200 on it and it only lasted two years. The warranty had expired in one year so I'd have to pay even more if I wanted to get it repaired. With all the trouble iTunes put me through too (as mentioned earlier in the thread it's horrible bloatware, I've heard it runs better on MacOS than Windows but I can't confirm) the whole experience was enough to put me off Apple for good.

As an aside, is there any reason (apart from maybe the price) to get an iPod Touch rather than an iPhone? The former just seems to be the latter but lacking in functionality. I don't intend to buy either, just not sure I understand the marketing angle on that.

Following that I downsized to a Creative Zen 4GB, which I've now owned for about two years or so iirc. The battery life is about what you would expect, and it has some decent additional features such as a microphone and an SD expansion slot. It only cost me £50 and I can't say I have any complaints with it. Zen also make various larger-sized players to compete with the classic and touch ranges of iPods, but I can't say I've had any experience with them.

I always quite liked the look of Microsoft's Zune in concept, but I never looked into it too deeply since it never made it across the pond and has now been discontinued. Hooray! Besides that, I heard its potential was underutilised, which sounds about right for all the times Microsoft's been playing catch up with Apple.

 
 Nega
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While I just use my phone (HTC Evo) for standard listening, I have a Sansa Fuze that I use for my car.  It's relatively inexpensive, rather durable, supports a large number of formats, you could just drag and drop music instead of mucking around with something like iTunes, and you had the option to expand storage via microSD card.  Unfortunately, the newer Fuze+ has gone downhill judging from user reviews (no personal experience). However, the updated Sansa Clip+ still looks looks like it holds strong and is basically just a smaller Fuze sans video and picture capability (which I never bothered with anyway)

 
(@darkwinguk)
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The Human Shadow wrote:


Following that I downsized to a Creative Zen 4GB, which I've now owned for about two years or so iirc. The battery life is about what you would expect, and it has some decent additional features such as a microphone and an SD expansion slot. It only cost me £50 and I can't say I have any complaints with it. Zen also make various larger-sized players to compete with the classic and touch ranges of iPods, but I can't say I've had any experience with them.

I've had a Creative Zen 20GB hard drive (catastrophic hard drive failure) and now a Creative Zen 16GB (flash drive, no failure so far, but look up white screen of death).  Good battery life, handy features (I like the button that immediately calls up a random album of the day, not having to navigate through menus), credit card size, discreet and resilient.  The old Zen had an amazing software interface for getting music on the MP3 player, but the new one is awful - I'd recommend just using Win Media Player to compose playlists.  The buttons are easy to use and don't seem to have any problems and there's a DJ function for random album, most popular, least played etc.

Not sure whether that's a recommendation or not, but if this one dies I'll probably get another Zen - my brother had the same one and had no white screen of death and it went well until he managed to drop the laptop it was connected to and kill the motherboard.

DW

 
(@rabid-rodent_1722027878)
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I used a 2nd generation iPod Nano for a while and really didn't like it. The sound quality was very flat and lacked bass and none of the equalizer presets satisfied me. It didn't help that it didn't have a custom equalizer for me to toy with. It liked to lock-up a bit and was only 4GB. And the cheap $2 USB cable I got from Amazon isn't recognized by Windows 7 so I can't even use it anymore.

I used a 30GB Zune for a little bit and it seemed pretty nice. The sound quality was decent and I liked the "acoustic" equalizer preset. The problem I had with it was that it was just so big and heavy. If your pockets are already full, there won't be much room for this. Also I found the software cumbersome. It wants to add all the music from your computer onto it but I prefer handpicking the songs I want on it. Though I only used it once and didn't have much time to learn anything. Also the price is pretty ridiculous.

I've been meaning to get a new mp3 player and I've had my eye on the Sansa Clip+. It seems to have pretty much everything I want out of a player, namely:
- Small size
- No software needed (just open the folder in Windows Explorer and drag-and-drop)
- Folder browsing (allows you to browse your music the way you set it up in the music folder rather than just by ID3 tags)
- Custom equalizer (I like my bass)

The biggest size is only 8GB (usually around $50 on Amazon) but it has MicroSD support so you can turn it into a 32GB player if you want. It also has Rockbox support in case you don't like the native firmware.

Of course, I don't actually own one, so I can't fully recommend it. But from what I can see, it's pretty much the best small music player you can get. And I stress the "music" part because playing music is pretty much all it does.

 
(@tergonaut)
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I've been looking at the Sansa Clip+ myself, after reading a number of reviews on various MP3 players that seemed to lead me to it. It seems to be more or less the price range I'm looking at, and since it just plays music, that's what I want. I've got plenty of other devices that will fulfill nearly any other function that a more expansive MP3 player could offer.

There's some Coby players with video function on sale a lot at a Shopko near where I live; they're fairly cheap, maybe about 20 bucks for a 2GB player. I've read reviews, which have been mixed, but I get the feeling Coby is one of the lower-quality companies, and I don't want to buy another cheap piece of junk. I'd rather pay a little extra for something I could conceivably use for several years, though I don't want to bust the bank either - especially if it ends up being a pain in the neck to operate, regardless of music quality.

My current one is a 1GB player with memory card expansion, so I'm looking to upgrade at least slightly - between 2-4GB, though I'd like to keep the option open for expansion through cards. This would certainly be enough to put music on for exercise and travel, and serve for several years. I can use my computer to listen to music otherwise.

 
(@sonicsfan1991)
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i have what trudi has, a sony mp3 player 2 GB i think i got it free with a tv i forgot. but its fun it has recording a radio and the memory tracks. i love it cause its tiny so fits in my pants with my cellphone, its easy to navigate and has excellent sound in it (sony technology rocks).

but i cant say if the sansa clip is better or worse, if it works for you that's what matters i'm glad you sound happy with your choice and yeah get a 4GB when you can 1GB is not enough i got 2GB and i feel its little.

 
(@trudi-speed)
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Mine's an 8GB when 1GB probably would have been enough for me hahaha!

I do think my walkman sounds really good too but considering i'm as musically inclined as a deaf dog that doesn't really stand for much 😀

 
(@trudi-speed)
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Mine's an 8GB when 1GB probably would have been enough for me hahaha!

I do think my walkman sounds really good too but considering i'm as musically inclined as a deaf dog that doesn't really stand for much 😀

 
(@hiro0015)
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I honestly like my iPod... I've had it for 5 years and it has worked just fine. The battery is crap now, probably due to constantly charging it, as well as abusing the hell out of it. Once I land a job I'll probably grab a new one to replace it 8O...

 
(@sonicsfan1991)
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Trudi Speed wrote:


Mine's an 8GB when 1GB probably would have been enough for me hahaha!

I do think my walkman sounds really good too but considering i'm as musically inclined as a deaf dog that doesn't really stand for much

let's exchange i want your 8GB one! 
i like using the recording feature a lot too so mine doesnt give me enough space for that. its so fun i love recording funny jokes on tv or promiese people make me so they cant back out on it 😛  but mostly for my singing. i make up lots of silly funny songs, its fun to record them.

i dont know how you feel comfortable with apple technology hiro. i dont know how the ipod works really but i think you need to buy music online???  i dont know i just perfer to upload music from my computer. i like simple quick things.  

 
(@mike1204)
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My first mp3 was a sansdisk/sansa or a iRiver; but both were my low end before I got my 30GB iPod in sophmore year of high school (which I still own to this day and use for my travel music choice); so for cheap end I can only suggest sansa and iRiver, Terg.
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i dont know how the ipod works really but i think you need to buy music online???
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Not true, sure zune and itunes/etc come with digital stores; but they are no different then any other media player and are not exclusive to digitally bought music.
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