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(@superexplosivetails)
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Here's a funny sprite comic. With Mario, Luigi, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Cream.

Did you like it.

 
(@Anonymous)
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1) Way too much empty space.
2) Nonexistent Storyline.
3) Um... What was it about?
4) You mixed GBA and Genesis Sprites.
5) You can do better. MSPaint is not an excuse.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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please use your existing thread to post your sprites in. i know this is a comic and your previous sprite images were 'hoaxes', but this doesn't need a new thread to show it.

you'd improve this comic if it didn't have so much blank white space.
if you're unsure about your storyline, it'd help if you wrote it down in script form first so you can read it over to see if it makes sence.
it's possible to make very good comics in MSpaint, so practise using it some more.. you're showing improvement already, so keep trying.

 
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I like it.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Nitpix:

- There's a mistake on the first panel, where the ME sprite isn't perfectly placed onto the base.

Tipz:

- Trying to mimic the emerald shrine by placing emeralds on the tower thingies from sky sanctuary was a good idea, but badly executed, because you used the advance sprites

- You HAVE to crop. Have to. There should be no white space what, so, ever. PLEASE use frames for the panels.

- Your grammar and English ain't{har har} perfect, which doesn't matter for posting, and made a humorous bit of Engrish in the second panel, but it takes the oomph out of the dialogue.

- The speech bubbles still don't fit the text immaculately.

Mixing MD & GBA sprites isn't catastrophic for comics, but kills hoaxes. So it was OK for this comic I suppose, but using MD & GBA emeralds right next to eachother hurt.

Also, your work could use better presentation and structure. You should use frames for the panels, crop the white space away, etc, like I've already said.

Don't take this post asif I'm chastising you. I'm trying to help you out.

 
(@miss-puar)
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Constructive Crit.
1st Panel: The top of Mario's hat seems to be chopped off. Panel should be a neat rectangle with no white space. MS Paint has a tool for constructing rectangles. Make a few as a storyboard ahead of time, then crop the BG so it fits evenly inside. (This tip applies to all panels)
2. Chaos Emeralds aren't perfectly lined up. Are they s'posed to be in a line or forming a loop around Luigi, it's difficult to tell.
3. Try writing your text first then construct a text balloon around it (I've found it easier that way, others may feel different). Try not to have the text interfere with the pictures. The alter isn't in the BG, and I have no idea why. You might want to add another transitional panel. Just a thought.
4. How did Sonic and pals find the Mario bros? Again, another panel might be needed for an explaination.
5. How did they get past Cream and her hammer? There's no indication of how much time has passed but the characters have all changed places. I don't know why Luigi is so concerned when Mario clearly has the upper hand and has defeated Sonic and friends.
You're getting better, but you still have stuff to learn about making sprite comics (don't worry, even the best make mistakes now and then). Keep trying and you'll keep improving.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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You HAVE to crop.


I am not going to crop. I'm using sprites from the Spriters Resources. You got that Hyper Sonic Warrior.

 
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I am not going to crop. I'm using sprites from the Spriters Resources. You got that Hyper Sonic Warrior.


what in the f*** does that have to do with cropping?

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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WONDERBAT!!!!!! You just flammed me. You are not supposed to use cencording bypass. Now you turned my thread into flamebait. You might get banned.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I don't know what exactly flamming is,
or what the hell a cencording bypass is,
But I'm fairly confident I did neither,
nor did I turn your thread into flamebait.

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You might get banned.


For what?

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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Did you not read the rules? Read them right now and you'll see why you might get banned.

 
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SET, please do not try to enforce rules you clearly do not have too clear of a grasp on. = Bring this back on topic now, please.

 
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Wonderbat, we don't need a Geogwe jr. Cussing makes you look stupid.

S.E.T., you are not a mod, if you think someone has broken a rule, PM a mod/admin. If it is something really bad that needs IMMEDIATE attention (porn pics, ROM links, WAREZ sites) make a post in EVC.

~Rico

 
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Back on-topic, though, cropping has absolutely nothing to do with where you got the sprites. It has EVERYTHING to do with the tremendous white space in your comic. It doesn't matter how you went about making the comic - that's rather bad, and it'd be very easy to fix.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Why are Tails and Amy inside the wall?

Again, you'll do better at all of this once you understand how sprite manipulation works. For someone your age you're doing better than most, the mixing of Sky Sanctuary's foreground was Emerald Hill's BG was great (unless stolen), alas your insistance on using GBA sprites for 16-bit backgrounds is damaging you. Your inability to not leave huge seas of white space and the fact that the comic truly made no sense downs it.

I'm sure when you're older you'll look back at things like this and wish an angry god would slap you for being so young :p happens to all of us. Reminding people of their n00b days is internet kryptonite.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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if you're unsure about your storyline, it'd help if you wrote it down in script form fist so you can read it over


ChibiBecca, where you not paying attention to the comic? Where you just looking at the images?
Here's the story.
Mario and Luigi promised Princess Peach to go for a treasure hunt since it's Peach's birthday. They find the Emerald shrine. They go to it and power goes into Mario and Luigi. They get chased by Sonic and his friends. They get cornered but with the power Mario gained, he fired a huge beam of fire to them.

 
(@miss-puar)
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Becca's a mod and an accomplished spriter. It's a safe bet that she WAS paying attention and gave advice to help you out.
Comics are primarily a visual medium. Even if someone was only "looking at the images" they should still be able to follow the storyline. The text only serves to re-inforce the plot, the pictures establish it. Before you posted the story, I had no idea Mario and Luigi had promised Peach they'd go on a treasure hunt. Adding a panel where the plumbers talked to Peach and one or two panels where they were looking for treasure (before coming across the Master Emerald) would make the comic easier to follow.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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SET. That story line is not portrayed ANYWHERE but your mind. You need to put that plot into the comic, not just hoping that everyone else will just guess, `kay?

Or what Puar said while I was typing that.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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slight correction there miss puar. it's my boyfreind who's very accomplished at spriting, while i'm just handy with photoshop and the basics of comic drawing. 😛 but hey, i might give spriting a serious go some day.

and yes, i did pay close attention to the comic. after spending years trying to improve my own style (something i'll be forever trying to do) i happily give advice to others to help them improve their own work. that's one reason why i accepted the job to mod this forum.

i'd suggest that you read some other sprite comics and see how they lay out their panels, introduce characters and storylines. i'm not saying to mimic them, but to give you ideas.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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[Mr Tweedy]I FIX'D IT![/Mr Tweedy]

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Sorta.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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*giggles at the fruity demands*

well yes, that does demonstrate a much better layout for the panels and has an introduction. :p

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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Y,10Q

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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You made it JPG. Why didn't you make it PNG? You didn't really fix it The Turtle Guy. Just edit it with PNG.

 
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I really don't see why filename matters. o.o And, I'll admit I'm not certain on this, just changing the extension won't necesserily change the format, depending on how it's encoded. That said, if you want it changed, why not do it yourself?

Also, LOL @ Fixed comic

Turtelyman, you're becoming increasingly humurous. I'm pleasently surprised. ^__^

 
(@miss-puar)
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Changing picture format is pretty easy. If you prefer png why not edit it into a png yourself? Though as long as there isn't alot of obvious pixel distortion what does it matter? Most sites accept a variety of image formats, including jpg.
Edit: THS beat me to the punch.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Filetype IS important. JPEG is a very compressed and losey format. GIF and PNG are more or less the only things you can save a sprite as and keep the quality.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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Changing picture format is pretty easy. If you prefer png why not edit into a png youself?


That was The Turtle Guy who changed it into png.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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it's possibly not to loose too much quality with JPEG, just make sure you've set it to the highest quality possible when saving.
PNG is often too big a file.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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It is not peach like the ones we eat Turtle Guy. It's a Mario character named Peach. She's a princess who wears pink.

 
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We knoooow. He used peaches to be funny.

And it worked on me. 😡

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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I know, SET. That was mostly a joke, right there, and a demonstation of a working sprite comic format.

EDIT: I SMILE ^__^ @ being funneh

 
(@supershadow70)
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Poor Wonderbat. Everybody freaks on him, and I stand accused. But what you have to learn S.E.T. is that he's giving CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! It's to help you get better at what you do. It's not like he's pointing and laughing at you. He may come off that way, but he's really a good guy.

Anyway, I do like what you're doing, but there are still a few errors. When you put in the two separate pics of Mario and Luigi, they became a bit squashed. It was still okay, but distorted.

Also, you're storyline was rather unclear. I kinda got what was going on, but only kinda. Next time, remember to put a few panels in explaining what is happening [OR] put some sort of prelude or something into a Text Box.

It would also be a neat idea to make it like a Marvel comic by putting in those little yellow boxes that might say MEANWHILE or LATER ON. Stuff like that.

And how old are you? Everyone keeps saying you're good for your age.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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Here's the second part of the comic.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Vast improvement, though still alot for people to nitpick about.

Main niggle is that the text doesn't fit in the bubbles. Change the font size or make your own bubbles. If you C&P the bubbles and the text doesn't fit it'll look ridiculous.

Keep practicing :)

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Well s**t. I was pretty sure you'd be hopeless after reading your responses / lack of responses to the posts, but you're improving.

I see an attempt at frames and structure. That's good, but there's still too much white space. That, and the dialogue still lacks oomph.

One last thing, It seems you've turned a landscape on its side to get them in a water...it looks bad. You should've found an actual beach background the right way up or something, or even tried to make one.

Yay for improvement.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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Sometimes it seems what I put in the text bubble loocks like it's going to fit, but it doesn't. I try enlarging them sometimes.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Try typing the text first, then putting the bubble around it.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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Wellll. Not Bad, SET. "SHUT UP YOU DOGONE RABBIT WITH YOUR HIGH VOICE" made me lawl. Just gotta work on those speech bubbles.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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Here's the third comic.

Tell me if I improved.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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it's better. the plot is making a bit more sence and you're doing better with your speach bubbles. you unfortunately cut off what amy and cream are saying in panel 5 when you cropped off the image. i'd suggest moving that panel closer to the one saying 'meanwhile' to avoid that problem.

try experimenting with smoke or fire effects on sonic and co on the second panel. as they only look blackened, not on fire.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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EGG THIEF MODE was funny, and you're continuing to improve, but really, why do you always leave it so scruffy? It looks so rushed and like you took no care at all. What I'm talking about is all the blue and white space, the cropping error Becca pointed out, and the general..uh..ness.

 
(@supershadow70)
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Ah young gwasshoppah! You are impwoving! No, seriously. Better job.

Still half-ass cropping though. And it does look a bit rushed like HSW said, but still better.

I also noticed the dialouge got better. DIALOGUE IS IMPORTANT! Just because the Sonic games have bad dialogue doesn't mean your comic has to.

I think you have alot of potential. Keep it up.

I want to know where you got the Mario and Luigi sprites for the first comic. I like them. I gey all of my sprites at rcz.saphiria.net/ . They have a very god selection for you I think. They have pretty good GENESIS sprites too.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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gey

OMG GHEY AZZ A SHLUR!!!11

I believe the sprite he used are here

 
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but really, why do you always leave it so scruffy? It looks so rushed and like you took no care at all. What I'm talking about is all the blue and white space, the cropping error Becca pointed out, and the general..uh..ness.


Going off of what HSW pointed out, it seems like you're doing this just for the sake of having a sprite comic and not actually going for something really outstanding. If that's not true you should take more time to fix up what you're doing and really rework the dialogue and things until you think you have something truly impressive and unique.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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*hug SET* Even better. Just gotta watch out for that cropping, like Chibibecca said.

 
(@superexplosivetails)
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They look like if a sprite comic really don't take long. But in fact they take like 2 hours to make. Why does time have to get in the way?

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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They mean, take some more time on top of THAT to perfect it.

 
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