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(@Anonymous)
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Apparently Matthew Hayter the 700th is off to edit quite a few of his posts... that are months and months old. So if you guys start seeing a mass of bumped topics and can't tell why, it's probably that.

I base this on a PM conversation I had with him in chat. I couldn't talk him out of it and he doesn't seem to be seeking permission from the staff. =X

 
 Kaze
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I suppose then that they should be locked down and dragged back into the briny deep of the archives where they belong.
At least in case they pop up, right?

Do you have a screenshot or record of it, if I may ask?

 
(@Anonymous)
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He's doing it RIGHT NOW AS I SPEAK.

Go check if you don't believe me.

 
(@lighty)
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I locked down MG so users can't edit... for now

 
(@matthayter700)
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o.o I came here out of curiosity to see what was going on in EVC and found a topic about something I said...

Acrio, didn't I already tell you that for now I was only editing posts within the religion thread? That would mean only one thread being bumped, not a "mass" of them...

Oh and kaze, if you're wondering about context, I asked Acrio how to edit posts without bumping the thread they're in so I could edit some of my old posts, he said we can't, then later on I asked him if he could delete some of my posts, he said he couldn't (I think Acrio said something about no longer being an admin, but at the time of asking, I temporarily forgot he said that) and then later on in the conversation I mentioned the religion thread and said I was off to edit some of my own posts in it anyway, and then left.

Well, of course, the actual conversation was more complex than that, with other things being mentioned in between those things, etc... but I think that would give you the general idea.

 
 Pach
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didn't I already tell you that for now I was only editing posts within the religion thread? That would mean only one thread being bumped, not a "mass" of them...


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for now


That implies you were going to edit more of the threads eventually, anyway. So yes, I think restricting editing abilities in MG is justified since you would eventually be bumping up a lot of old topics.

 
(@deckman92)
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why did you even bother

everyone already forgot about that thread until now, and attempting to cover up the retarded posts of your past only made you look more retarded

and why are you giving acrio such strange titles

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Ironic thing. I looked at the bumped religion topic to see the improvements. Was greeted with the same old wall of text and thought "even if I could remember a year old topic well enough to notice the differences... do I really care enough about someone's ego to see if they improved their self-image or not?"

The answer was, no.

Matt. No one will re-read your old topics and re-evaluate you as a person. The only useful thing you're doing is destroying evidence so we cannot quote it on you at a later date.

If that's your intention, just be flat out truthful with it. An admin might even take pity on you and delete some things for you.

 
(@matthayter700)
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That implies you were going to edit more of the threads eventually


...depending on the result of the first time. Part of this was to see what would happen.

By the way, it's not just about people on this site either, someone who I know IRL found a couple forums I was on before and insists that "one leads to another" and this person knows other people who I know IRL; The problem's not so much what I said as how much of it and that occured to me more so recently than before...

 
(@deckman92)
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What?

 
(@nukeallthewhales_1722027993)
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(@aeva1688)
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And what was the point of that?

 
(@Anonymous)
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I believe they are pointing out the vagueness of Matt's post.

 
(@tergonaut)
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By the way, it's not just about people on this site either, someone who I know IRL found a couple forums I was on before and insists that "one leads to another" and this person knows other people who I know IRL; The problem's not so much what I said as how much of it and that occured to me more so recently than before...


Why would the volume of your posts matter to RL people more than the content? If you have a specific opinion, no matter how short or long it is, there are always people who will disagree with it; so editing your posts to be shorter or more condensed isn't going to solve that problem.

If you're worried about being "tracked down" then it's much too late because the moment you started posting anything on any board, someone could run a search on your username (or even your real name) and they could probably find anything that you have ever posted via search engine. And as mentioned before, you've been quoted in several posts, and in those cases it probably won't be deleted or edited to your preference. The only way you can get away from that is to get a whole new online identity and hope that no one ever concludes you are the same person who posted these other things.

 
(@Anonymous)
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That will work until the first time he posts a four-page essay in response to an offhand comment :crazy

 
(@matthayter700)
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Well Craig, I admit it was silly of me to not consider whether or not people would remember or care, but I more so did it impulsively; I noticed things in it that made me think "I didn't actually think that way even back then, but I don't think something that recent outside of the chat would've been an act, it must've been one of those things I type because it felt good to type but usually remove later, I probably should've read the post over, actually I'll just fix the whole thing now" and act on it. As for the part about destroying evidence, I don't deny that that was part of it, (and again, as I said earlier, "seeing what would happen" was also part of it, it certainly wasn't a 1-reason choice) but it's not just about people on this site as I mentioned earlier with the IRL person thing, and it's not so much the qutoes as the presentation (even without reading what I've saved on my computer, even in terms of just what I so much as remember from thinking back, particularily the case of replying to Victor and rambling WAY too long about things WAY too vaguely related to my point when all I meant to say was that when I said Communism I was referring to "as a type of totalitarianism" because that was the meaning I learned in school) Also, as was evident to me when I read that post, I myself am not completely sure what I said to some extent, and I don't like the idea that others would know that better than myself... granted I should've thought to read my own posts before adding them, but then again I already promised to do so from now on months ago anyway...

Anyway, onto Tergonaut:

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Why would the volume of your posts matter to RL people more than the content?


Well, at least the content of my posts is more similar to things within RL than is the volume. As far as I'm aware only two people who I know IRL would know about the volume of my online posts, one who I already mentioned as finding me on a couple forums, the other is a friend of mine who I've known since we were little kids who I showed some samples of things from this site among other sites in a way that it's almost as if it's a secret between us... except for people on the Internet, of course. With the content, however, much if not most of it is the same kinds of things I would talk about IRL, I'd comment on political issues in economics class just as I have on this site, I reference some of the same things from my personal life in MSN conversations with people I know IRL as I reference in the chat, and even with regards to video games, I've talked about some of the same things I mentioned in my "Gaming moments associated with real life moments" thread to my RL friends. See, thing is, with the volume, was how I realized more so recently just how silly the longwindedness itself was, and doubt I could explain to RL people why it took so long as I'm not really sure why myself...

And yes, I do notice the irony of my explanation as to why I'm more embarassed by the longwindedness being longwinded itself, but part of that is how this sorta doubled as a chance to mention things that for a while I've been waiting to mention anyway though...

As for the part about a specific opinion, I wasn't saying there wouldn't be people who disagree with it; what gave you that impression? I wasn't saying editing them to be more condensed would solve that "problem" (and I wasn't even calling the disagreement itself a problem) but more so saying it'd help solve others...

You're right, the moment I posted anything it was too late, and the person who I was talking about said something similar to that me. At this point in time my concern is more so about IRL than online in which case I can't really get away from it, but can only cushion the impact by removing only the very most embarassing stuff, like the rambling to VRAI51 thing I mentioned to Craig... and I wasn't saying that I was looking for a new online identity either, so much as trying to isolate the one I have now from my RL identity for now.

 
(@Anonymous)
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This is precisely what I am talking about.

 
(@schnippshly)
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Oh, Wonderbat, you seer of the future.

 
 Kaze
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You know, Matt, it doesn't really help much when your posts are pretty longwinded anyway. o.o;

 
(@deckman92)
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What?

 
(@matthayter700)
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You know, Matt, it doesn't really help much when your posts are pretty longwinded anyway. o.o;


True, but I think that at least getting rid of the cases of more obviously pointless rambling would help to some extent...

 
(@Anonymous)
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I can see some ramble even in the shortest post I've ever seen from you, Matt.

Here:

True, but I think that at least getting rid of the cases of more obviously pointless rambling would help to some extent...

If you remove every letter not in bold, it is a much more concise sentence with the same implied meaning. Try that in some of your next posts.

 
(@Anonymous)
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We have told Matt this a million times. He does not appear to have the capacity for learning.

 
(@toby-underwood)
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Vec, tell me again why you removed the Lack of Sentience rule? ;)

~Tobe

 
(@Anonymous)
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Apparently we can't have a forum without things like electricity. But that is no excuse for electricity to try and post as a user.

 
(@toby-underwood)
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But can I ban electricity?

~Tobe

 
(@Anonymous)
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Here. Stab it with this fork.

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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Forks are for eating. >:o

 
 Pach
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We're not going to stab AND eat it? =(

 
(@aeva1688)
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Sounds yummy.

 
(@matthayter700)
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Actually, Acrio, I don't think I worded that right for how I wanted to emphasize "more"; I wasn't talking about examples where rewording what I say could trim the word count (though granted, maybe I should consider that as well, point taken) I was talking about the more embarassing things like saying way too much about things that were way too vaguely related to my point, like in my earlier example about what I said to Victor. I'm not that concise in my wording on MSN either so unconcise wording isn't as much of a concern for IRL as is what I mentioned earlier...

And Wonderbat, I was on the honour roll throughout high school. That would suggest the capacity for learning. Except for Craig in my rep thread, what are you comparing to Acrio's post to suggest that what he said was repeated several times?

 
(@Anonymous)
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It may not be a concern for you but it is very much a concern for us, the people who read your messages.

 
(@Anonymous)
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That would suggest the capacity for learning.


And you repeatedly demonstrating that you do not appear to learn anything at all from what people are constantly telling you suggests otherwise.

 
(@shigeru-akari)
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I'm gonna close this. This thread has done its job. kthxbye.

 
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