So spoilers BOUND.
COVER:
*Sonic protecting Mina. Made by Sanford again. I like it a bit then last issue's, although Mina's face looks more alien then anything else.
FIRST STORY:
*Mina feels safer that Sonic is her bodyguard, but Ash goes in full jerk mode and he and Sonic argue until Mina stops them.
*Sonic and the FFs leave and Mina and Ash talk. Ash is very critical on Mina's choice of romance, even saying how most of her song lyrics were about Sonic. So he quickly breaks up with her.
*The FFs is now in the concert area, in different position, watching for anything Eggman related.
*Sonic and Mina have a short three panel talk that doesn't really lead anywhere.
*While Mina then sings, many Bombs walk pass the crowded stage where Tails (flying overhead) spots them. A random guy cries out "bomb!" and all hell flies loose.
*So, the FFs do their duty while Sonic goes to protect Mina, but Ash apparently changed his mind on his breaking up as he wants to protect Mina. Geez, make up your mind, will ya?
*Sonic and Ash argue some more until Heavy comes and does his thang. Sonic digs underground and lures Heavy there, later digging through water. Heavy is gone and Sonic blacks out...
*...Until Bunnie saved him. The bombs have all been destroyed by the other FFs and all is well. Yay.
*After Mina and Sonic share a quick hug, Ash talks with Mina once more, trying to say he really loves Mina, but a bomb comes outta nowhere. Being heroic, Ash takes the bomb and runs out.
*The explosion occurs and Ash is hurt, so he is taken to the hospital (where Ron Lim really hurted Dr. Quack's beak, ugh). Ash is alive and recovering, so Mina goes to see him.
*Mina says how Sonic will always be in her heart, but she has moved on and proves it by kissing Ash. Sonic moves away rather looking heartbroken.
*Eggman is pissed and thinks of another evil plan.
My Two Cents:
I actually rather enjoyed this, despite the last issue being "eh" at best. I personally enjoyed the character development between Mina and Ash. Ash was very jerk mode here, but made up in the end when he nearly died for Mina by taking the bomb out. Now THAT'S devotion.
I was MOST happy when Mina and Ash did stay together in the end. I was not ready for another Mina/Sonic love thing, not after all that has happened in the last issues dealing with this. It's not that I hate Mina/Sonic, it's that I wanted Mina to move on. I didn't wanted it to contradict #144's "Love and Loss" and thankfully, it didn't, so I was most pleased. That is character development to me.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling the Sonic/Mina will be brought up AGAIN if the last scene is any indication with Sonic looking upset over Mina/Ash together. Good Lord, and I thought he already had problems with all the other females cuz' of his evil half in #150-#152-ish.
Ron Lim's art hurts the artwork, Ash's outfit still looks ridiculous, everyone is still incredibly lanky, Dr. Quack's only appearance makes his beak looklike two glued frisbee's together. Good God.
SECOND STORY:
*Snively and the rest of the brain trust study the nanites.
*They all leave except Tommy freakin' turtle who does his own experiment on the nanites.
*It comes aliiiiiiiiive and attacks him, getting his shell. *Now Tommy's shell can produce metallic stuff, such as wings, and a jet pack when he thinks it.
My Two Cents:
Another story about Tommy. Man, Archie is seriously trying to milk him into liking him, but I still ain't convinced. Now he's got a nanite-ish shell. Oh, goodie. Ken Penders' artwork didn't exactly help.
~Neo
I know it may sound kinda bad but I wish that things had escalated between sonic and ash and have sonic beat the crap out of ash.
WHAT!?! please, please tell me your kidding about the second story...<starts banging head on key board> hyu76uunhjyu7
Tommy was such a great character in 117. His selfless sacrifice was so moving, so powerful. Then Archie had to destroy the meaning of his supposed sacrifice by bringing him back...
From the information provided so far, my initial impression is that it sucks tremendously.
I wish Archie would get a clue. It seems rather obvious that most people who want to get their money and time's worth despise Rom Lim and it sounds like Ken Penders isn't doing too well either with story development. Personally, I think I would've liked Tommy Turtle better if he stayed dead like we first thought. They really are trying too hard to implement him as an important character and from the changes I've heard of, now he just sounds like some typical charcter in a comic book who gets super powers due to a freak accident in the name of science. And I will say once again that Lim needs to be kept away from those drawing boards by any means necessary
They use Lim because he works quickly.
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*It comes aliiiiiiiiive and attacks him, getting his shell. *Now Tommy's shell can produce metallic stuff, such as wings, and a jet pack when he thinks it.
*sigh* Perfect opportunity for them to kill Tommy, and they blow it.
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*It comes aliiiiiiiiive and attacks him, getting his shell. *Now Tommy's shell can produce metallic stuff, such as wings, and a jet pack when he thinks it.
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W...T...H... 
So now instead of being powerless annoying character he is an annoying character with power 
. You know they should have given this power to Bunnie. I mean ever since her upgrade her metal half have been pretty much useless compare to her original. The original had X- buster,a buzz saw and a missile. They should use the nanaties to upgrade Bunnie but no they instead they use it on Tommy 
:"> . I don't what the hell they are smoking but they should stop it.
Its not april so im going to have to believe that second story.(Tommy turtles crap fanfic style developments are starting to hurt now!
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But on an unrelated note why would Robotnik send in an an army of bombs and not just randomly detonate them thus wreaking his arch enemies homebase and possibly killing a few pains in the backside?, and more importantly how the heck do you kill the bombs without them blowing up in your face???.
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*While Mina then sings, many Bombs walk pass the crowded stage where Tails (flying overhead) spots them. A random guy cries out "bomb!" and all hell flies loose.
That second story is going to tick more than a few people off.
That Bob-Omb was awesome in the Mario movie.
~Neo
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*It comes aliiiiiiiiive and attacks him, getting his shell. *Now Tommy's shell can produce metallic stuff, such as wings, and a jet pack when he thinks it.
Just what we need- Robo Tommy. *sighs* I was disappointed last month because my issue never arrived (despite the fact that my subscription doesn't expire till 159) and ended up purchasing a copy at Waldenbooks. Now, I'm almost hoping they forget to send my copy again.
who wrote the second story?
*is curious if he'll ever get #153*
I have to agree with Shadonic. Ever since her upgrade the coolest accesory Bunnie's been sporting are the jet thrusters mounted in her feet. Bunnie's old body had so many great features, she often seemed like the Freedom Fighter's best chance against Robotnik next to Sonic. Besides the Buster-esque pulse cannon, buzz-saw, and jet feet, she also had those extendable legs and a her arm could shoot out like a rocket except that it was still attached to her. I don't remember the missle feature though. Even though she got served in #39, that issue definitely showed her taking the most advantage of her cyborg side. It's just not fair that they take a lame character like Tommy, implement a cliched yet good idea like the nanites, and then turn him into a joke. Bunnie deserves something good to happen to her especially after her heart got broken because of Patch. Also, just because you can get things done fast, does not mean that they will turn out good. In fact, when you say Lim works fast, that typically means it will turn out worse than usual if that is at all possible.
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Also, just because you can get things done fast, does not mean that they will turn out good. In fact, when you say Lim works fast, that typically means it will turn out worse than usual if that is at all possible.
Did I say it turned out good? In fact, did I say ANYTHING about the quality (or lack thereof) of his work? You apparently wondered why they kept using him. I gave you the actual answer. He gets the stuff done quickly. Yes, it probably accounts for at least part of the poor quality. Apparently though speed is a priority, since the reason given that FRY had such a long absense was because he didn't work quickly enough.
Well this doesn't have anything to do with the speed of the comic production, but since I STILL have yet to find any of #153 in my area, I would prefer to have to wait longer if someone who can do a much better job like Fry was involved to at least make the wait worthwhile.
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I was disappointed last month because my issue never arrived (despite the fact that my subscription doesn't expire till 159) and ended up purchasing a copy at Waldenbooks.
Yeah, a similar thing is happening to me now. I sent my subscription in for Sonic X about as soon as I saw the ad, and it still hasn't come in. I'm thinking about buying it at Walden's, but I'm afraid it will come in with Sonic 154 like it did when I got 147 and 148 and if that happens, it would be a waste of my money. Wonder what I should do?
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*They all leave except Tommy freakin' turtle who does his own experiment on the nanites.
*It comes aliiiiiiiiive and attacks him, getting his shell. *Now Tommy's shell can produce metallic stuff, such as wings, and a jet pack when he thinks it.
So now he's, what, Tommy The Swiss Army Turtle? That just buried the needle on the WTF-ometer! Someone at Archie comics is really, REALLY, REALLY trying to give Tommy Turtle a push, turning him into, what, Inspector Gadget?
The only push Tommy Turtle should get is off the nearest cliff!!
Rather than comment on this issue, I'm just going to beat my head repeatedly off of the hood of my car. I believe that represents my feelings well enough on this issue.
WHAM!
WHAM!
WHAM!
Ow......
WHY CAN'T TOMMY JUST BLOODY WELL DIE?!
They surely know we either hate him or don't give a toss. Why can't they listen to fans?
*sobs*
I hear the nanites give him the ability to fly with jets in the leg holes in his shell. He then goes off and gets killed in a fight with Gamera.
What happened to nack? I guess Sally went back on her word and left him to be bruttaly beated by his own team mates. Man, I hpe she really dies...
Nanites going to someone useful like Bunnie > Nanites going to someone useless like Tommy
Amen to that!
What happened to nack? I guess Sally went back on her word and left him to be bruttaly beated by his own team mates. Man, I hpe she really dies...
No offense, but considering how many times Nack has betrayed and backstabbed people, including leaving his own team mates of weasels behind in #123, I think he deserves the beating, not to mention the jail arrest.
~Neo
Time out!
What was speculation seems to be catching on as "fact," so let me step in for a second.
Nack was not put into the hands of his former gang mates. That was a scare tactic. Nack is perfectly safe in his own little cell.
Time in!
Ahhh, so the most the weasel buddies can do to Nack is chuck flaming toilet papers at him. Ha.
~Neo
d@mn ultra devil I think this thing you got for wanting sally dead is borderline obbsessive.I on the other hand like sally and she is my 2 fav character besides sonic.She has more depth than any other female character in the comic.amy-just wanted to be older for a couple reasons
bunnie-hasn't gotten to much attention(side stories and such)mina-I honestly think that they created her because they were runnning out of ideas.the only depth that she did have was wanting to get her mom back.fiona-shes gotten over her problems with mighty and sonic so thats pretty much it since,like bunnie,not much atttention is paid to her.
mina-I honestly think that they created her because they were runnning out of ideas.the only depth that she did have was wanting to get her mom back.
So, her romance with Sonic or her singing ability you casually left behind doesn't count as part of Mina's depth because, hey, last I checked, it did count.
~Neo
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So, her romance with Sonic or her singing ability you casually left behind doesn't count as part of Mina's depth because, hey, last I checked, it did count.
Whatever's happening between Sonic and Mina doesn't qualify as "romance" anymore, not after "Love and Loss" established that Ash is the major hottie in Mina's life.
those are very let me say it again VERY weak depth I can run a 2-mile in 13:15 does it add a lot of depth to me as a person ummm no oh and btw i consider for a romance to be real it has to come from 2 people and not one sided.and you say that you "checked her depth and it counted"lol where?
Whatever's happening between Sonic and Mina doesn't qualify as "romance" anymore, not after "Love and Loss" established that Ash is the major hottie in Mina's life.
D'OH, I meant the romance between Mina/Sonic as PAST tense and not current, but I didn't catch it until you quoted me, Dan. My bad.
~Neo
I have to disagree with armycat. One-sided romances are real. They happen all the time, both in the real world and in comics (depending on the degree of attraction it's a crush, infatuation, or down-right obsession). Lots of storylines have come from those one-sided romances, and while they may not always lead to true love they usually do lead to some sort of self-discovery and add depth or understanding to a character.
Anyway, back to 154. I just got it in the mail (along with 153, better late than never, I s'pose). I found the first story to be kinda cute, if rushed. Ash may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, and he's rather insecure, but his insecurites are logical given Mina's old relationship (crush) with Sonic. The way he was willing to put himself in the line of fire for Mina was touching. Too bad he's stuck in the hospital for now (Is it just me or does it seem that whenever they're not sure what to do with a character, they stick him/her on the Disabled List?)
The second story was pretty bleh. I don't like Tommy's new nanite powered shell, but did like how the issue of "what makes something alive anyway" was brought up (too bad it was glossed over).
What happened to nack? I guess Sally went back on her word and left him to be bruttaly beated by his own team mates. Man, I hpe she really dies...
Ok, enough beating of that dead horse, ok? Nack's rotting in his cell for attempted murder, and I think he oughta be thankful to be in solitary.
And I was lukewarm about the issue.. All that hubbub about wanting to kill Mina, and it turns out it was all just a test? Bleh..
...And don't get me Started on the Tommy back-up.. Ken.. SHOVE THAT TURTLE IN LIMBO WITH THE OTHER UNUSED CHARACTERS, AND LEAVE HIM THERE!
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I'm seriously considering reviving KTC.
JOIN ME!
haha. i forgot about the KTC. that was always a fun.
I'd have to agree with Miss Puar. One sided relationships do exist, and I'm here to prove it! I've been in love with the same girl since kindergarten. Have I had the guts to tell her, No...
In a sense, isn't all love one-sided? Do you/can you ever truly know if the one(s) you love actually love you back? No! It is impossible. No matter how sure you are, there's always that tinny, tiny speck of doubt. According to Kierkegaard, an existentialist, there is only one thing that can over come this doubt...faith...faith that the one you love loves you in return.
Because of the way Sonic reacts towards the breakup/makeup of Mina and Ash.
It's going to happen, Sonic and Sally will be back together. wheither we want to admit or not, or like or not, and it's going to happen sooner than we think.
i seem to remember it being said there was no one-sided romance, not one-sided relationships. thats really rather true, romance does require some return from the other party.
unless you take romantic in its purely literary sense, which i suppose a one-sided relationship can yield, though im doubtful of that too.
-----------------------------------------------the-Krayon
This issue sounds very disapointing. But I won't say why because...relationship discussion is not allowed. 
It's going to happen, Sonic and Sally will be back together. wheither we want to admit or not, or like or not, and it's going to happen sooner than we think.
But to be blunt. That's why I'm disapointed. However just because of this doesn't mean Ash and Mina won't break up perminately nor does it mean Sonic and Mina will never get together. YOU CAN'T PROVE IT UNTIL IT HAPPENS! SO THERE!!!! 
*flees before the admins can beat her with their administrative justice stick*
Question, is this same rule going to apply when the mofo moves?
This IS off topic, I apologize, but, the MoFo is moving?
I saw that the server is being upgraded, or they were switching to a new server, but I didn't know that the MoFo is MOVING. Like.. switching URL? A completely different messageboard???
Hmm. Maybe I should've posted that in Emerald Visitor Center, sorry.
EE
Offtopic: When the admins get around to getting this place done, namely vec, we'll be moving here: www.echidnoyle.org/gamemu...cs.php?f=4
However, people have already started posting there. But the move hasn't been made official yet. It's under construction. Been like that for over two years from what I've heard.
Ah well. Anyway back on topic...o.o
Aww. That makes me sad.
I've been there a few times, and I like the p072 better!
But, back on topic...
I mentioned this in KenP's board, but did you noticed Tommy's tear being green in the backstory?
EE
Okay, so MoFo is moving, but what about us and everyone else who's a member of THIS forum? 
Will we have to reregister and start from square one? Or will our memberships, posts, and statuses be transfered to the new one?
offtopic: We'll have to re-register. 
bot: So that's just it huh? They just had Mina forgive Ash after all that and Sonic walk away sadly and now he's just going to turn back to Sally?
I just read it and NACK DOESENT ESCAPE! Sally went back on her word and left nack to be beaten up by his former mates! Come on, Nack, KICK SONIC"S @$$!
I just read it and NACK DOESENT ESCAPE! Sally went back on her word and left nack to be beaten up by his former mates! Come on, Nack, KICK SONIC"S @$$!
Ian Potto stated Nack is in his own little cage, away from the three weasels (his comment on this is on the second page of this topic).
So, the most the three weasels could do to Nack is chuck flaming toilet papers at him.
~Neo
hmm, the elite board, i want aware we were moving there. ive never been enticed enough to post there. as long as we still have somewhere to discuss.
So how long do we have until we MUST use the other forum?
Off topic for sure...
February 14th 2006 is the last day of CSC Gold for us. The official move will be earlier than that though to allow for a grace period. The url will change to something like mf.lighthead.net/eliteboard probably until it's on SHQ which god knows how long will be...
If you have continued questions please ask them in EVC. o.o
