IDK, armycat. I'll check when I get home... unless anyone else beats me to it...
I really don't think this backstory in #155 takes place before Battle Royale. I just think Art draws Sally with short hair because he always used to.
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But Sonic's headed that way too.
Obviously. I mean, he kissed a girl. SATAN!
I KNOW!
That Sonic... one day you're kissing the girl who you abandoned years earlier and whose robot clone your 11-year-old friend was in love with, and the next minute you're... you're...
You know...
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You know...
um...no I don't... could you elaborate ...
Actually, Dulcy was seen breathing fire as far back as her permier in #29. As far as the whole relationship scenario is working right now, the thing that ticks me off the most is that Sally's break-up with Sonic completely destroyed the point of the fan-voted decision to the end of the Sonic-Sally-Mina love triangle in "Heart Held Hostage" from #122{. But that's done with now and if Sally and Sonic are apart forever more then both might as well do something to fill the holes in their hearts. Sonic being with Fiona right now is in my opinion a belated rebound relationship, but who knows? Perhaps one reason a number of people seem uncomfortable with the direction the story's taking right now is because certain relationship aspects are too close to real life.
Eh, I think they'll be back together next issue.
Then again, I don't read previews of issues anymore.
Aaaaaaaaaaand...
NO! NO ELABORATION!
You're not missing much. They haven't had any issue previews since #151
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But Sonic's headed that way too.
HE. KISSED. ONE. GIRL.
I really cannot stress that enough.
The Dulcy story is supposed to take place "now" (as in relatively recently) in terms of continuity. That was the whole point of the editorial notes attempting to explain away the idea that Dulcy not being able to breath fire doesn't make sense to the long time readers. ;p
Mawhinney has always given Sally shorter hair than the rest of the artists so that didn't strike me as a big deal, particularly since everyone else (Bunnie, Rotor, Mina--though not colored) is in their post-Home outfits.
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As far as the whole relationship scenario is working right now, the thing that ticks me off the most is that Sally's break-up with Sonic completely destroyed the point of the fan-voted decision to the end of the Sonic-Sally-Mina love triangle in "Heart Held Hostage" from #122{.
That was not a fan-voted decision. Nothing that happens in the comic is a fan-voted decision. ;p
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You're not missing much. They haven't had any issue previews since #151
That's not true at all.
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That was not a fan-voted decision. Nothing that happens in the comic is a fan-voted decision. ;p
To some extent, it was, because it was influenced by fan response. If the Son/Mina fans had been more numerous and vocal, we'd liekly be lookign at a Son/Mina comic now.
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To some extent, it was, because it was influenced by fan response. If the Son/Mina fans had been more numerous and vocal, we'd liekly be lookign at a Son/Mina comic now.
I wouldn't go there because the fans could scream as loud as they wanted for Sonic/Mina but if the ones who make the decisions wanted Sonic/Sally or Sonic/Amy or Sonic/[insert girl here], that's what the fans were going to get.
True, but Ken (and I belive, Karl) have stated that it was fan reaction that influenced the outcome of that love triangle.
Taken with a grain of salt, of course.
Sonic and Foina were not kissing
Sal's uhappy about her agranngie maggiare, even though she's trying comvice herself otherwise (not working obviously) Someone about to change family history by choosing her path.
Hope that helps.
Look, in terms of an actual preview with details on more than one story and a picture of a possible cover for the next issue, there hasn't been anything like that in the back of an issue since #151.
And if I remember correctly, the end result of the Son/Sal/Mina triangle was supposed to have been determined by reader influence. I like Mina, but I'm not a fan of any coupling with Sonic right now. I think he really has to first work through some of his more repressed emotional issues right now. Then let's see what happens.
Mmmm, Fan is right. What's happened to Sonic-Grams? I mean, not that I need a monthly dose of Mike giving me a headache, but it seems odd that it's just been cut out all of a sudden...
Yeah, I do miss Sonic-Grams...
They DO do previews, just not IN the comic itself...
The Dulcy story is screwed up, and if WE can see that, THEY should have seen it.
bw-are you sure about that(sonic and fiona not kissing) because there has been about 6 people here claiming that they were in 155.my store gets it tommorrow![:]](https://www.lighthead.net/misc/mofo/smilies/biggrinshaded.gif)
so I'm going by what the people here say?
But I don't think so and when you see the issiue, you might want to read my other posts and finally see what I've been talking about.
Let's not also forget this issiue where fans thought it was over bewteen Sonic and Sally:
and then let's not forget this issiue where those same fans along with the rest of us were proven wrong:
and look at how many issiues (if not the years time wise) it took between those two issiues to bring Sal and Son back tohether, do we sense a pattern, I do, They broke up in 134 and now it's be about the same length of time almost, wouldn't you agree Armycat.
well,I wont claim to know what the writers are planning but I hope you're right since I'm a a firm son-sally fan.
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True, but Ken (and I belive, Karl) have stated that it was fan reaction that influenced the outcome of that love triangle.
Ken/BobR, yes. Karl, no. And yes, I take it with a very large grain of salt just as I did Justin's comments toward the whole thing. ;p
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Sonic and Foina were not kissing
Re-examine the first panel on page 2 again. Tails' reaction and Fiona's comments right afterward should end your doubts. ;p
Foina and Sonic could have been talking for all you know, I mean it was shadowed if you will, but you are entitled to your own oponion. But find out once everyone else has read the issiue.
By the way, I think Tails reaction and thoughts of him and Foina are the result of not just the robotic Foina but Tails growing up before his time. But then again love may not know no boundraies or limits when comes to things like age.
That's why Sonic's arms were around Fiona's neck in a kissing embrace? Because they were talking? ;p Believe what you want BW, but it's clear to anyone who sees the picture that it's a kissing scene. ;p
IF they were just talking, Tails would NOT have felt betrayed the way he did, nor would Fiona have made the comments she made. ;p
True, but like you said I'll believe what I said, again you have a right to your oponoin/thoughts, but what about my Tails question that I also asked.
What question? All you said was that Tails likes Fiona because he liked the robot version. That's not a question. ;p
However, your opinion that Sonic & Fiona weren't kissing holds as much water as Harley's opinion that Sonic has been hitting on every single girl in Knothole earlier in the topic. Anyone can believe what they want, but that doesn't mean their beliefs hold up to scrutiny. ;p
Remember, it's Sonic who betrayed his trust, NOT Fiona. Tails was not angry with Fiona. Tails was angry with Sonic.
Edit: Oh yeah, there are only a few people posting in this topic that haven't read the issue already. ;p
You have a point there Red, but do you think Tails as smart as he is would have realised that Foina has aged by 6 years since the robot was made, and techinally their both not the same as the other. But it's like I said before in my other posts it's all a part of Tails growing up, I mean what young boy like hasn't had a crush on an older woman.
So how that playing out?
And in your own opoion Red, who do you think the "HE" that Sonic mention in his thoughts is. I have my suspsicions, but what about you Big True red, who do you think it is?
It's obvious he knows that there is a difference in age between the robot & the person--Tails even acknowledge that with his comments. However, since Fiona has been living in Knothole for about a year, he also has had time to figure out if the personality the robot had & the real Fiona have are similar (so if she would look past the age-factor it might work out). If the personalities aren't, then he's just blinded by her looks--in which case Tails is just filled with lust. While I'm not male so I wouldn't know about the crushing on older women-thing, but I have no doubt that there are plenty of males that never had crushes on older females even excluding the ones that aren't into females at all. ;p
Personally, I don't care who the "he" is that Sonic is talking about. Just because I don't disapprove of the story like I did the ones from Sonic #146 - Sonic #151 (and to some extent #152 & #153) doesn't mean I care about it or the twists and turns within it. Sonic #155 is my last issue of this series until I hear about Knuckles & the Chaotix actually doing something other than having cameos in the story. I've not been concerned about the comic beyond my work for Sonic HQ ever since #151. I'm only still posting in this topic because I can't see how people can read the same story I'm reading and miss the facts so badly that to accomodate them I have to use the word "opinion" as to not be "mean."
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in which case Tails is just filled with lust.
omg omg QotW lol
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While I'm not male so I wouldn't know about the crushing on older women-thing
It's fun!
I'm sorry, I'm not adding much to the conversation as I've yet to see the issue. Still, all this fuss over a kiss... this isn't Melrose Place, right? Right!?
**Sally goes nuts and blows up Knothole**
I think Tails has every right to be angry with Sonic this is the same hedgehog (Somewhat) that betrayed his trust once before back in issue's #27 and #28 and then promised Tails in issue #56 that he wouldn't do it again and now turns around and lie's to him by kissing Fiona. (Even though Sonic forgot about it a promise is still a promise but who knows with Sonic nowdays) somehow I don't see Tails forgiving Sonic this time around and I also think this is one reason why they weren't friends anymore in issue #138 but then again I could be wrong about this too!
Hmmm....very interesting point rattrap2000...That makes a lot of sense and such, but knowing how Archie works, that'll be forgotten soon...There is no way Tails and Sonic are going to be separated for very long. I don't think Sega will allow it...and unless we suddenly jump forward 20 years, I think Sonic and Tails will be buddies once again in the very near future...
i hope all this is sorted out next issue. i am a Sonxsal fan but i want too get back to the war of robotnik insted the war of women.
look at this topic for details.:crackle
this is a message from Shendu.
Shendu: i ve read #155 and if Sonic kisses amy, fiona, bunnie or mina ever again i want everyone to put a bullet thou my head.
Shendu: heres #156. . . . . . oh crap.
everyone: we're gonna get ya!
I reserve all judgement until next issue.
But I have to say Sally's becoming a clone of her dad and isn't even realizing it.
Of course, if it does go through, Evil Ant' rules Mobius.
Oh and the guy Sonic asks help from? Anti-Sonic.
I wouldn't call sally a clone of her dad.she has differed on her dads judgements many times and the only reason that she is marrying patch is for the kingdom.anti-sonic?that would be pretty cool for them to team up.I finally got 155 bw and I have to agree with red.the pose is a telltale sign,the slightly guilty look on sonics face,fiona using the word "boyfriend",and the look on tails face(espcially the one in the panel before he yells at sonic.lol I've never seen tails or anyone in the comic for that matter look so mad.I think,I'm going to start rating the comics now. 8.5 out of 10
But if you read my other posts, besides this one error, you'll see that I mention a few other things that did happen, like Sally being unhappy and trying to convice herself other wise, not working Sally, and wondering what Sonic has in his backpack.
Anti-sonic?! Come on now, really, why would he give a rat's butt about Patch taking over? He didn't do anything about it earlier when he first replaced Sonic, and he didn't make any mention of doing something about it after getting setlled in as Sonic. Now I don't see him letting Patch's possible takeover keep him from being himself, but he's obviously more interested in lifting jewels and making out with Rouge. Besides, he can take Patch out whenever he wants to since he was the reason that Patch ended up on Mobius in the first place. You're going to have to come up with something better than that. Looking back on it, Sonic said he didn't know where Anti-sonic went after their last fight anyway.
he's got a point and bw-about kuckles being the one to help. I doubt it since you can see him at the wedding already,and he wouldn't be able to do anything.as far as zonic - sonic doesn't know that that patch is from anti-mobius so he wouldn't go to him.
a little late for Zonic hes been nowhere in sight in mobius. as for Knuckles? no. just no. sigh this is hard too guess, Archie are going too do something orginal, like twan comes in after Sonic and the union thingie.
Just read the lryics, you agree or not if they in some way match Sonic's mood/emotion that Archie putting him though because of the love/care he still has Sally, tell me if they match or not:
"
Empty spaces fill me up with holes
Distant faces with no place left to go
Without you within me I can't find no rest
Where I'm going is anybody's guess
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I try to go on like I never knew you
I'm awake but my world is half asleep
I pray for this heart to be unbroken
But without you all I'm going to be is incomplete
Voices tell me I should carry on
But I am swimming in an ocean all alone
Baby, my baby, it's written on your face
You still wonder if we made a big mistake
(Repeat chorus)
I don't mean to drag it on,
But I can't seem to let you go
I don't wanna make you face this world alone
I wanna let you go (alone)
(Repeat chorus)
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I feel some the lryics match the mood.
When Sonic and "Antione" and I use that very loosely met on the bridge, Antione threated Sonic with his sword and when he pin him to the bridge he kicked him into the water.
Now the "Antione" Sonic knows would never had done anything like that, espeically kicking a man or hero when he's down, and the "Antione" Sonic knows, would have let Sonic see Sally no matter what to see what he could do to help or find out why.
So if you look at it, "Antione" (again used very loosely) gave himself away in someways during that fight on the bridge.
Now I know some of you are going to say that the characters are going to believe it was because of his change in additue because of the war, well change or not the "Antione" Sonic, Sally and especially Bunnie know would never had done that, ever.
So there may be part of the anwser everyone's looking for, then again, I could be wrong (I've been so in the past.)
well u gotta realize that people change,sometimes for the worst.you can't say well he's changed but he or she would "never go that far" or "be like that".Its like Iraq,you have no idea how many people have changed.some a little and then there were others that you can read in magazines that come home and start shooting up police for very little reason.an incident like that happened not to long ago.I can honestly tell you that it has happened more than you think.so,It can happen and it has.the characters based in the comic the characters have human traits,so there you go,enough said.
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I think Tails has every right to be angry with Sonic
Sure, but does he have to be such a little drama queen?
It's just a part of Tails growing up.
he still sees Foina as the robot.
But hey age sometimes doesn't mean anything when comes to love, just ask Barby.
What into a guy who acts like a queen?
tell us something we dont know.
Anyone for a "January May" love romance...but in reverse?
After my previous rant I finally got the issue and read it. To my suprise, it was actually pretty good, and most of it makes sense.
As far as Tails outrage at Sonic, it might be that both he (and us readers) are jumping conclusions. The silouette shows Sonic and Fiona in at least an embrace, but not necessarily a kiss as others have said. There's plenty of plutonic reasons why a girl would hug a guy. She used Sonic as an example of what kind of boyfreind she would have, but didn't say for a fact that Sonic was her new lover. Plus, it would be uncharacteristic of Sonic to betray his best freind like that when he's been trying to save him from heartbreak all this time. (Although it was a bit uncharacteristic for him to just lazily play a guitar afterwards instead of looking for Tails to try to explain to him what happened.)Frankly it's time for him to mature a bit anyway, and I'm glad that little side story is just about done with.
The Anti-Twan couping the kingdom was very well done IMO. He's kind of like Palpatine, manipulating and twisting others to gain power.
We still don't know what Sonic's plan to stop the wedding is, so that ought to be intersting next issue. The marriage isn't complete yet, as only Sally said "I do".
The Dulcy story didn't suck as bad as I thought it would. I read alot worse side stories this past year.
James Fry's art is pretty good. You can tell in quite a few scenes where he's been inspired by Jon Grey.
(Pretty darn fast too if ya ask me.)
Overall 8/10 One of the better issues this year.
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Plus, it would be uncharacteristic of Sonic to betray his best freind like that when he's been trying to save him from heartbreak all this time.
Uncharacteristic of Sonic to do that? Certainly. Uncharacteristic of Penders to have Sonic do that? Not at all. And there's the comic in a nutshell.
I still haven't had the chance to read this issue yet, though.
A lot of people seem to be wondering about Sonic's plan and who he needs help from. Personal theory: Assuming that Sonic has finally realized Antoine is not who he appears, the "he" Sonic is referring to could be Evil Rotor. He is the only known person on Anti-Mobius with the technology to send people between worlds and he knows that at least the Sonics had switched. In order for the real Ant to get back home he'd have to a. steal the device or b. ask Evil Rote for help. Ant isn't really the theiving type, so that leaves plan b. The problem with asking help from an enemy is "what's in it for them?" Sonic seems worried that the person who can help would be reluctant to do so (not an issue I think he'd have if he was referring to say, Zonic).
yes, but penders hasn't been using Zonic neccessarily right either. If he did, then Robotnik wouldn't be here and the whole Antoine thing would have never occured.
of course it is possible that they're still recouperating after "The Chosen One" story.
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of course it is possible that they're still recouperating after "The Chosen One" story.
Yeah, except no one realizes "The Chosen One" story even happened...at the end, Tails wished that everything return to the way it was before Mammoth...so no one (except Arthair and Merlin Prower) is even aware of this...
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The silouette shows Sonic and Fiona in at least an embrace, but not necessarily a kiss as others have said. There's plenty of plutonic reasons why a girl would hug a guy.
Not even counting Sonic's guilty expression, why would Fiona make the comment about having "bad breath" if it were a hug? Bad breath would only be an issue for a kiss, not a hug. If it were a hug, the comment would've been something else.
Right. Like TR said, if it were a hug, Fiona would have said something like "smelly armits," rather than "bad breath." XD
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