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(@aviantalon)
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FRY's art HAS gotten better... read this, then go back and read something like #75, or #95.

 
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I liked Fry's work in #75:(

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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#75 was pencilled by Butler, not Fry.

 
(@aviantalon)
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Whoops. I meant 76. Sorry.

 
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Well I got the issue. All I can say is that sonic and sally are surrounded by complete idiots,where does Max get off calling Sonic a commoner after the guy has been saving the planet for decades And tails would know that fiona is too old for him and I don't think anyone is okay with a sonicxfiona thing. Ant is probaly the only guy with intelllegance in the issue. but after that rant We see that sally is having a conflict here She either has to talk to sonic and be on equal terms at least.or marry ant who will be abuse the power. sonic was reffering to tails as the only guy who can help. so we see a pretty good romance issue and Anti-ants evil subplot

 
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I don't see how Tails can help. Sonic can do almost anything Tails can do physically, and more, except flying. That's why it would be more logical for Sonic to go after someone like Zonic, who can zap people between worlds. Then, again, Sonic doesn't even know that "King Antoine" is the Anti-Antoine, so it wouldn't make sense for him to go for Zonic, either.

I just have to wait for issue #156 to find out! =D

EE

 
(@aviantalon)
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Smx, it's obviously not the REEEEEEAL Max... he's obviously been replaced with a robot double......:annoyed :rolleyes

Oh wait....that already happened......shoot.:rolleyes

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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where does Max get off calling Sonic a commoner


If you are not royalty or part of the nobility, you are a commoner. Since neither of Sonic's parents nor his Uncle Chuck are nobles (and we all know they aren't royalty), Sonic is a commoner. Antoine's family is part of the nobility and I believe Tails' parents are part of the nobility as well--but that I don't remember for certain.

 
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Since neither of Sonic's parents nor his Uncle Chuck are nobles


Then why is Uncle Chuck addressed as "Sir Charles"?

 
(@rattrap2000)
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Yes Tails father and uncle are but I'm not sure about his mother she could be though witch does give Tails all the more rights to marry Sally then Ant or Sonic do.

 
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If you are not royalty or part of the nobility, you are a commoner. Since neither of Sonic's parents nor his Uncle Chuck are nobles (and we all know they aren't royalty), Sonic is a commoner.


What about Sonic and Chuck having been knighted? Or was Sonic's revoked?

 
(@rattrap2000)
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Yeah if I remember right Sonic's was revoked but not his Uncle Chuck's!

 
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What about Sonic and Chuck having been knighted? Or was Sonic's revoked?


Dude, Crazy Cham Lea, four posts up man...

 
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Today I finally puchused Star Wars III, and by watching it again, one of the comprasions at see at the end of the movie is Ankin telling Obi-won, he hates him, and for some reason I see almost a comprasion, if not simalar situation at the start of 155 when Tails says the Same thing to Sonic.

Of Course this is just a comprasion I thought of, off the top of my head.
;)

 
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Being knighted wouldn't make someone part of the nobility from what has been shown in the comic. It would give someone just a slightly higher status than commoner. Sonic's had his revoked a long time ago. Geoff...I mean Elias did that. ;p

 
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Today I finally puchused Star Wars III, and by watching it again, one of the comprasions at see at the end of the movie is Ankin telling Obi-won, he hates him, and for some reason I see almost a comprasion, if not simalar situation at the start of 155 when Tails says the Same thing to Sonic.


Dude, you're right! Their situations are SO similar! I can't believe no one even noticed that before! OMG, WTF, LOL!!1

 
(@alcatel)
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Review !

"Line of succession (1/2)"

Story:
AT LAST a (very) good story !! Maybe one of the best Penders ? (no ? oh, right.) He FINALLY found something... to TELL. How ? With the basis of a story: a conflict. The new Triangle Sonic/Fiona/Tails is launched and linked with all the other (and interesting) subjects: Evil Antoine, Sally, the Kingdom. There's now a problem whose we're waiting the resolution. Who'd say it was the case before ? The story was stopped since #134. 9/10
Art:
Style as good as usual but closer to a Jon Gray for facial expressions: James Fry is not in my Top-3 best Archie pencilers but 5th... Or 4th... He brings energy to the story and remedies the inexpressiveness of a Lim. We feel we're back in the "glorious" Archie story... Let's say around #75-105. 10/10

"The price of flame (1/2)"

Flashback ! Welcome in 1995. All is the same. Art Mawhinney draws, Swatbots terrorize the little, country world of Mobius and roboticize every moving being. What ? What effects ? Damn ! Photoshop betrayed our storytellers. It's the only change (8/10). The story ? Classic but efficient (8/10) ! We all know what will happen: good guys will be saved, the bad guy will be defeated... But... Hey...

I thought that Jules Hedgehog was the only Robian left ?!
What happened to (former) Dulcy's friends ? Ahaa ! To be continued next month !

 
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okay but still Max says it with extreme dislike. okay it might be just because sonic broke up with sally (in Maxes POV anyway)

 
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Today I finally puchused Star Wars III, and by watching it again, one of the comprasions at see at the end of the movie is Ankin telling Obi-won, he hates him, and for some reason I see almost a comprasion, if not simalar situation at the start of 155 when Tails says the Same thing to Sonic.
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Dude, you're right! Their situations are SO similar! I can't believe no one even noticed that before! OMG, WTF, LOL!!1

Are you being saractsitc?

 
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Dude, Crazy Cham Lea, four posts up man...


a) I'm a girl.
b) Yes, and I wanted to ask about Sonic as well, dude.

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Being knighted wouldn't make someone part of the nobility from what has been shown in the comic. It would give someone just a slightly higher status than commoner. Sonic's had his revoked a long time ago. Geoff...I mean Elias did that. ;p


I wasn't sure of it as I haven't been able to get the comic in a long time. And while it's not a status of nobility, it still seems like a bit of an arrogant stretch. =P

 
(@aviantalon)
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Sonic's knighthood was revoked in issue nintey-...uh... nintey-four? I've managed to screw up issue numbers a lot lately...

 
(@alcatel)
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#93.

 
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Believe it or not, issues #88-#110 are my favourite issues ever. Specifically, issue #88.

Anyway, though, do you think King Max will heal?

I think he will. The line "we don't know how long he'll be in a coma" made me wonder.

If he is in a coma past issue #156, I'd expect him to wake up around #160, after the Shadow trilogy. What are your guesses?

 
(@alcatel)
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I forgot talking about emotion. There's so much in this issue ! Almost every scene. Mood power.

 
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I got this issue today and Sonic is not a commoner Max even if it does mean that.
Why is Sonic not? Look at 125, 64-66 and 133 for a few.
Max said that as a insult from 134 because ant is a commoner too.

Everybody say Faker! Faker!

 
(@hiro0015)
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Let's all remember that line from uncle chuck in 101

"Sometimes it's the unofficial bonds that count the most..." (something like that...I don't have the issue on me...It references an alternate reality where Robotnik was stopped before the takeover...)

 
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I don't think Max calling Sonic a "commoner" was that big a deal. Commoner is an accurate (albeit tactless) description of Sonic's status. People has already pointed out the class structure on Mobius and explained why it's more socially acceptable for Sally to marry Ant (instead of Sonic). I'll just add that Max wasn't feeling well when he made the remark, and it's a good idea to take anything a sick person says with a grain of salt.

 
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Why, why does Archie want me to hate Sonic? WHY?! And I almost know for a fact that they're only going to screw it up more...

<runs away crying>

 
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ant is a commoner too


Antoine is not a commoner. Antoine's family is part of the nobility as per his father's status as a high-ranking General and best friend of King Max.

 
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It's a good thing I knocked myself out...I would have probably caused some serious brain damage I had continued to pound my head on desk...

wow...wow...I think that's the best way I can describe my disappointment with this issue...so many things to complain about...

Sonic, why must you continue to do this to yourself...You know Tails still likes Fiona...Tails, maybe you can beat some sense into him...and dude, Sonic stop talking like you're living in the 'hood...

it's late, I'll complain more tomorrow...nite

 
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Thank you, Miss Puar, I was thinking the same thing about Max calling Sonic a commoner; not only was Max sick but he was sick because he was drugged/poisoned and no telling what that stuff did to his mind.

And, Red, about Ant being nobility because his dad was a high ranking general, well, that would fit Sonic, seeing as how Uncle Chuck held the position of Royal Scientist at one time, is a knight, and in addition to that, we can't be certain that Bernie and Jules were just commoner soliders, they may have/do held/hold a higher position then what we are aware of.

 
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is a knight


Was a knight.

 
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we can't be certain that Bernie and Jules were just commoner soliders, they may have/do held/hold a higher position then what we are aware of.


They've had plenty of time to say if Bernie or Jules were anything more than your regular soldiers. The comic has consistently gone with "Sonic is a commoner"-thing, so there's no reason to believe that his parents were anything more than your average soldiers, much like Bunnie, Hershey, Fiona, etc. would be considered now. As it is, I don't think Uncle Chuck was that high in terms of importance either and still would've been much below Antoine's father, Geoffrey's father, and possibly even Tails' father--the only one I'm not certain about. Most the importance Uncle Chuck once had would've been lost since he left after the whole "Jules losing his freewill" though he has gained some back during the past year it seems (not enough to carry over to Sonic).

 
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I know I probably shouldn't be thinking this way, but I think what Dan said about having a massacre in the next issue might be good idea, with Anti-Antione not surviving. Not just because I want Sally out of her current situation as soon as possible, I think it might be a good way for the truth to get out that it is Anti-Antione, then they can try to find the real one.

 
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DC, how'd you get a hold of Dan's review? I've tried his site, but it doesn't show up...i don't know his homepage's address, so I just change the issue numbers...

 
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I recently read #155 and I think my title explains it all. I nearly had a what the heck?!:eek reaction to seeing Sonic with Fionna. If this really was Sonic trying to fend off a love sick female, then Archie REALLY needs to fill that plot hole fast.

Other than that, though, I thought the drama was pretty darn good, if not kind of recycled. I'm going to enjoy seeing what goes down next issue!:cackle

And w/ the Dulcy story...oooh!:) Rather intriguing.

 
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Masscure!!!!?????
I hope it dosent come to that!
Archie are in a pig's stiy. Sort it out and no twist! My young mind can't take it no more!:spin :cuckoo :cackle :| :annoyed

 
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What I'd like to know is why Bunnie was anywhere near that wedding.

-Shakudo-


"Watch Metal try to out-Sonic Sonic!"

 
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So that they could have another scene with her crying (a la what Ken basically said he wanted to do on his board awhile back) because the one with her crying when telling Sonic the news wasn't enough. ;p

 
(@alcatel)
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There's continuity, and continuity.

Also, does Ken need a hand to find the proper french article ? Say "ma princesse" or "ma chrie", please...

 
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DC, how'd you get a hold of Dan's review?


DC didn't, because I haven't posted it. Yet. I'll try to get it up some time today (Nov 13). It's gonna be a long one, I'd better warn ya.

 
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Yeepee.

 
(@hiro0015)
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Sorry Dan, I must have missed your post about a massacre...I can't wait to see your reaction to 155...by the way, what is your website's address?

 
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Dan's Sonic Page
I got it bookmarked, his reviews are a hoot. ^__^

 
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Thanks Miss Puar!

 
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by the way, what is your website's address?


For reviews, it's www.andrews.edu/~drazen/slknot.htm

 
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I have read your review Dan, entertaining and insightful as always. So you are basically saying that the main story was too emotional, right? Reading your review, it makes the story seem almost comicial. Assuming this eventually works out well,like I am hoping it will, I am probably going to end up looking back on this story and laugh, and wonder why I was so worried.

 
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I'm not saying that "Line of Succession: Part 1" was TOO emotional so much as its emotions were SO over the top that none of them rang true. The overplaying degenerated into melodrama and you couldn't take any of it seriously at some point -- that point came for me when Tails flipped into Drama Queen mode. "SONIC, I :evil YOU!!!"

The result, I fear, is that no matter what Ken Penders does in Part 2 to try and resolve this mess it'll end up feeling like one more cheap trick in a book that's seen more than its share of them. Either that, or else Ken will pull some outrageous stunt which the comic will then forget all about for the next 18 months while they carry on with something else.

 
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Chaos is not the God of Destruction

Ken Penders is!

I read the comic and i like that new mario party game but anyway

Sonic said 'I could play It smart and see if the ONE PERSON who can help is WILLING to.' Think about it carefully.

Read your review Dan and the scene with Sonic and Fiona, you said that could be anti Sonic, and i could agree with you. because all that scene Sonic did'nt have any buckles.

I think James Fry is a very good artist and would not left that out accidently.

 
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What's wrong with Tails' reaction ? I think it's normal. You know what a valve is ? When you're a child, I guess you have reactions like these. Disproportionate.

(and yes, if you're a littl' sensitive bunny, too.)

 
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