So if you're Sired you count as part Royality?
Also, can you Sir a Child?
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Also, can you Sir a Child?
i suggest you look up the meaning of the word 'sire', as you seem to think it means giving someone a knighthood or something.
if he sires a child, it means getting his wife pregnant with his own child. naturally, the child will be royalty.
Is there any word from Archie yet on what the deal with Alexis is yet, or why we don't know about it?
*Goes to check Ken's board as a last resort*
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I think their gestation period ought to be somewhere between 4 to 7 months because so far most the newborns we have seen do seem that much smaller then a normal human baby. This along with the time between Elias leaving Knothole and getting to Meg's town and how ever long the "courtship" (meeting, dating, parents, engagement, arrangements, and/or whatever else you can think of) lasted it would've been a long while.
Mari-An & Rob did it just as quickly. I don't see why people think there has to be some long courtship. Other than the teenagers and Lara-Le/Wyn, everybody else has been "love at first sight-let's get married now." ;p
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I forgot to add, the Mobians are about half the size of people anyway--though the "size" of a person doesn't matter since I don't believe the gestation period for the pygmies (as an example) is less than for "normal-sized" people. My point is since it's already established that they keep the norms (example, echidnas lay eggs) as much as possible, they should also keep relatively the same gestation periods as the animals they're based on. ;p
Poor Sally. While she may be releived that a major part of her duties have been taken by Elias and she can actually be with Sonic, he's got another girl. Plus, there's no real bachelors around. Antione? Taken. Knux? Taken. Ash? Taken. That skunk guy who's name escapes me? Married. Well, there's always Rotor. Although I think he and Tommy have some gay thing going on.I mean, they both sleep in the same room.
I can see Sally now as an old maid in Sonic 25YL.
Old Sally - I could'a been queen y'know? I had it all! I was even the fiancee to Mobuis's greatest hero! But he went off and married that durn fox! Now all I got ta keep me company is my three cats. Isn't that right Mr. Kitty Kitty?
Mr. Kitty - For the love'a god lady!! Put down the gun and let my family go!!
Maybe she should change her nickname from "Sal" to "Sol" for $#%^ outta luck.
There is one guy that is still free and that is none other then Tails and I don't really care if their is a 5 to 10 year age difference between Sally and Tails my father and my late mother had an almost 15 year age difference so get over it already about Tails being with an older girl (big deal) and the skunk's name that your thinking about is Geoffrey St. John.
A big age gap in a relationship may be insignificant in adults, but for an eleven year old it's a bit of a stretch.
For the love of all that is sacred and dear, does the fact that Tails calls her "Aunt Sally" from time to time mean nothing to you?!
Before finding out about his parents or even Sonic's parents, she felt like family to him as much as Sonic did!!
Of course, if I remember correctly Monkey Khan had an interest in Sally when they first met....
And hopefully, you may see some air (details) been made clear.
Tails is too young for pretty much anyone except Amy Rose. Hmmmm... that could actually work. She's technically near Tails age, although physically a little older. Course, then you'd have a love square. Plus, it would be good to the plot since both have been rejected by the ones they love, and the two they did love ended up with each other instead. Although, like I said before, I'd like the book to steer away from the whole romance bit and add a little more adventure and comedy into the book.
P.S. the worst part of the comic was that old dragon saying; "you go girl!" Good lord, no-one said that in like five years. That's as bad as Tails "word up!" a few years ago.
Amy is really immature so AmyxTails *shudder* could work.
Also, they could lighten down the Romance but don't get rid of it.
So like... they now have a issue to sort it out.
Then again, its not that complicated.
The Older idea i had... maybe not Shadow, but may be the guy in my sig...
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Well, there's always Rotor. Although I think he and Tommy have some gay thing going on.I mean, they both sleep in the same room.
Yes, because sleeping in the same room as someone automatically means you're boinking them. We'll just ignore all of the other people who have shared living spaces, like Amy and Bunnie, or Sonic and Tails, or Mighty and Ray. Well, Mighty and Ray, maybe...
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The Older idea i had... maybe not Shadow, but may be the guy in my sig...
I'm all for unconventional relationsips, but we need to draw the line somewhere... o_O
nonono i meant the idea about Shadow shooting Sonic! But instead Metal Sonic does!
You've got a sick mind!
You don't have to say Mighty and Ray are gay... we already know that!
Sorry. I have no idea what you're getting at bw1797.
Sally will be with one, the one who reveled Evil Twan for the phony he was, and saved her from a dark and flase maggiage that would have been made in hell.
And I think You know who Am talking about.
Greetings, once again.
I'm curious, is the AntiAntoine alive?
We saw him with "x"s over his eyes, but does that really mean he's dead, or is he just unconscious?
What do you think?
Thanks,
EE
Sally/Elias?! Ewwwwww.
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We saw him with "x"s over his eyes, but does that really mean he's dead, or is he just unconscious?
Unconscious ;p
They don't kill people in this comic unless they're over 30. ;p
No Charles, the one I am talking about saved Elias Life after he was crowned King.
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While she may be releived that a major part of her duties have been taken by Elias and she can actually be with Sonic, he's got another girl.
Elias ruling will more than likely be temporary. IMO, Archie is just delaying the inevitable with him. He has no ruling skills, no passion for the job, and has the tendency to let people walk all over him as a result.
And going to Ken's board, I happened to find that BobR confirmed one suspicion that I had.
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Posted by BobR from 207.54.132.68 on December 03, 2005 at 12:06:29:
In Reply to: Re: Penders why change Alexis from Elias daughter to step daughter? <73335.html> posted by Lena-La: Hail the Dark lord Spectre! ^_^ on December 03, 2005 at 08:01:05:
: I haven't gotten the issue either, but I dont think it was ever clear in the past if Elias met Meg pregnant or not. The time between him running away and behing found, and the state of her pregnacy didn't match up. The kid being a step-child makes better sense. Besides, Elias isn't in his teens but more around his early twenties. And this rules out the chance for a future coupe' by a grown up Alexis in the future.*Nods* Right on all counts.
Part of the reason why Ken is making Alexis Elias' stepchild is because they don't want anyone from Elias' family to continue governing. They would like to eventually give Sally the chance after him. The problem with this is that it delays the inevitable of what has happened in previous issues. So while Ken may try using Elias' rule as a means to buy time (and time for very possible SonSal bonding knowing that Ken's the writer), the issues are still there, and will continue to be there. Sonic is a hero, and even after Robotnik kicked the bucket, in issue #54, Sonic still desired to be a hero. This idea that once Robotnik is gone, he'd be with Sally is IMO, ridiculous, becuase it'd be OOC from what's been developed. If Sally wants a man, wouldn't it be in her character to pick someone she could rely on? To be there for her whenever her job becomes too much for her?
Sally will more than likely have to go back to ruling anyway (hopefully by then with newer adjustments made to the monarchy system), keeping her away from Sonic and her friends. And even if Sal DID Freedom Fight or something on the lines of that, Sonic logically wouldn't really need her anymore, and nor would the team. They've grown to adapt well without Sally as a tactitian on the group. Meaning a lot of things in the SonSal dynamic should no longer even be present, and any attempts otherwise would be OOC for not only Sonic and Sally, but the rest of the Freedom Fighters, who have adapted even longer than Sonic without her (although knowing Ken, he'll probably do it anyway). IMO, Sal would contribute more to the government than she would Freedom Fighting.
And as for Fiona, I doubt she'll get but so far with Sonic. Fiona may be a popular character, but I think that was mainly because she was seen as "Tails' love interest", not Sonic's. People are already torn by Mina and Sally (and probably to a small degree, Amy), and she seems to be made OOC, from a firey-tempered vixen to collected Sally Acorn tactitian (and even took her old hairdo) and Fiona's skills as a tactitian aren't needed either. A big problem with her is that IMO, she doesn't contribute to anything Sonic might need in a partner, and she's trite, so fans probably won't like her either. The little development we've seen between Sonic and Fiona is something we've seen by either Sally or Mina. Any popularity she does get would probably because Archie made her OOC to rip off of both girls' personalities and dynamics with Sonic. But again, I doubt she'll get far.
Let's be honest, she's not only pretty much slapped onto Sonic, but does Archie logically expect a large number of the Mina or Sally fanbase to back down from their support when she doesn't contribute anything new? I predict that if they ARE officially an item, Sonic's going to break up with Fiona in the near future (Especially knowing Ken's bias towards Sally).
I thought relationships were no longer an accepted topic of discussion on this board.. and yet here we are, discussing pairings again.
Anyways, I disagree with short on the topic of Sally no longer being a Freedom Fighter. She was always at her best in that role, and now that she's free of the responsibilities of the throne, she can get back to it. And while the FFs no longer ~need~ her as leader, that doesn't mean she can't be a good leader if she works at it again.
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And while the FFs no longer ~need~ her as leader, that doesn't mean she can't be a good leader if she works at it again.
I've been talking it over with others, and we concluded that her wisdom, something that was flaunted throughout the series would compel her to encourage their independance from her skills. Considering she's been removed for long periods of time without notice before, should that ever happen again, her team needs to be prepared and adapt smoothly. It's not that she can't be a good leader but she's simply one that isn't needed and could be taken out of battle at any time.
When people like myself post spoilers or reviews about a recent story in an issiue, and we. let's say mention something postive about it, like say recently in 156, myself states, that Fiona and Sonic are not an item, and that's a possible open door to a possible M25yl with Sal/Sonic Married, it's because people like myself read and study in detail the storyline(arc), the panels, and what the characters say and do.
Now half (if not most)of the of the time we're right, and half of the time we're wrong, but that's all a part of reading the comic and studying it to get a fair idea of what will happen in future issiues.
And when you have message boards like this, that have people like BobR, Ian, Dawn Best, and even Ken Penders himself telling/hinting at the fact that they are working on getting the comic and characters back to what/who they once were, and that characters like say, Sally and Sonic will be married in the future, depending on what future it will be, it's something (wither you like the current/future story ideas or not)that you have embarace and look at in a postive way.
Thank You and Happy Hoildays.
Sonic and Sally being married in the future is a HIGH possibility, since what you said and both possible futures ( In your face and M:25yl)
BW, I think you might have read a bit too deep into my past comment. When I metioned Monkey Khan, I was JOKING!!!
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When people like myself post spoilers or reviews about a recent story in an issiue, and we. let's say mention something postive about it, like say recently in 156, myself states, that Fiona and Sonic are not an item, and that's a possible open door to a possible M25yl with Sal/Sonic Married, it's because people like myself read and study in detail the storyline(arc), the panels, and what the characters say and do.
Now half (if not most)of the of the time we're right, and half of the time we're wrong, but that's all a part of reading the comic and studying it to get a fair idea of what will happen in future issiues.
And when you have message boards like this, that have people like BobR, Ian, Dawn Best, and even Ken Penders himself telling/hinting at the fact that they are working on getting the comic and characters back to what/who they once were, and that characters like say, Sally and Sonic will be married in the future, depending on what future it will be, it's something (wither you like the current/future story ideas or not)that you have embarace and look at in a postive way.
Thank You and Happy Hoildays.
But Mike said the future was determined by fans. So it doesn't matter what they say. And at any given time, a new writer with a new set of ideas could crash Ken's (OOC) party.
And if a certain degree of their consumers don't want it, they're desires are null. So to protect their interests, they and you try going around trying to force us all to accept a possibility as canon. I see the current direction Ken's going with Sonic/Sally, and Sonic/Sally in M25YL as OOC, and fans have that right. People don't have to accept M:25YL, and they don't have to look at Sonic and Sally marrying as anything positive.
But all the Sonic fans have different opinions of what they want in the future. Archie can only do general stuff (have Tommy die).
Most of the Archie Sonic fans PREFER Son/Sal.
listen, PREFER!
You forget that Ken himself has been quoted on saying he did not want to have Sonic and Sally together in the future however demand was that he was unable to do anything about it.
The Bas****!
Even 4 eyes don't like the pairing!
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Most of the Archie Sonic fans PREFER Son/Sal.
And what statistics support that statement? Ken's words have been used to pursuade the fanbase. The irony here is that people understood Ken's words couldn't be trusted after the M25YL scandal, and nor did many want to since Sonic and Sally didn't have an appealing future. Now, all of a sudden Ken's word is gospel, and the idea of him saying things to manipulate what the fans accept is conviniently forgotten. You can't pick and choose when he's telling the truth or not. The fact is many of you want
to beleive him now.
"M25YL is not canon, but Sonic/Sally is so popular that Ken just couldn't abandon it even during its sharp decline"
...what?
Have you forgotten how he said the editor supported M25YL as "canon" as did Karl, only for everyone to find out it was all a lie? How do we know that he isn't saying things like that to affect the tolerance of Sonic/Sally and his veiws in general? Now why was it that when Miko asked the question: "What if the tides turn" in regards to SonSal popularity, he didn't answer?
If he was consistant with his arguement, he wouldn't have minded to pit Sonic with someone else. And what's worse is that Sal's been on the decline for years, and when asked about it, he wouldn't even admit it. Saying: "she's as popular as she's always been". Again, an attempt to pursuade fan opinion.
And why is it that they had to strip Sally of her title currently, so that she could be with Sonic unless the pairing wasn't in decline during these times?
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You forget that Ken himself has been quoted on saying he did not want to have Sonic and Sally together in the future however demand was that he was unable to do anything about it.
Then again, Penders never touched onto key topics as to why the pairing couldn't work. Karl on the other hand did, and that made its popularity decline. When Ken attempted to support SonSal decline it in the past, all we had were various characters who threatened the relationship, but nothing that explained the problems within it. Even now, Ken hasn't done this because he's affraid to touch on these problems, and is trying to copout, when it isn't that simple.
Also. Ken's opinion of SonSal has changed. Looking at how the comics are being run, that's IMO, one of the only few things you can trust in his statements as it wasn't meant to blow his cover. Not to mention that it reffers to his personal feelings, and it doesn't reffer to the mentality of anyone else like the editor, the fans or Karl. Ken could've continued pitting Sally away from Sonic. He could've kept going in Karl's direction. But instead, he's trying to save SonSal from its decline. Why, if he no longer had feelings for it?
According to him, he sees the pairing as the equivalent of Superman/Lois Lane which shows he respects it very much despite the fact he's admitted that he couldn't logically see Sonic/Sally together. Meaning, we know it'll be OOC, and he knows it too, but doesn't care. What we have here are two mere shells of Sonic and Sally being paired off. What's the point in that, if the characters aren't even related to who they were?
Then again, we have a few people out there who just want to hold the pairing like a badge that says "I won" to the Mina and Amy fans, and I find that quite sad and immature.
According to him, he sees the pairing as the equivalent of Superman/Lois Lane
You mean Sonic only likes women with the intials S.A. (which means Mina and Amy are COMPLETELY out of luck.....)? There are constant attempts to fake each other's death to make the other feel guilty? Red kryptonite is involved?
....Sonic has an illegitimate mermaid kid out there?
Then again, we have a few people out there who just want to hold the pairing like a badge that says "I won" to the Mina and Amy fans, and I find that quite sad and immature.
...They sell badges?! Why didn't you tell me?!?!? I must collect them all!! 😮
That being said, I don't know what you mean by "OOC", since, in Archie, Sonic and Sally are not at all OOC with their relationship (And I don't know how that is a justification for anything either, since, from what I'm getting, #156 actually opens the door again for a Sonic/Sally relationship as opposed to closing it, though the means of them getting to that point were OOC - and I mean Elias' involvement in it was OOC for reasons stated already)....but I do know that there's a rule about talking about relationships, correct? One that I believe has already been mentioned once before in this thread?
Or was I imagining almost a year's worth of arguments over the relationship issue or the edict and this doesn't warrant any action? o_O
*skedaddles off*
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That being said, I don't know what you mean by "OOC",
I'm simply not going any further than saying Ken said it was (in his opinion of course). And to restate: The only reason I'm mentioning what Ken says regarding that, is because it does not involve speaking for the opinions of anyone else: The fanbase, Karl, or any of the editors. Anyways, To explain it to you would be something you'll have to ask privately.
You're to much of a SPA guy. But still, i have to agree, OOC can happen in two ways, for the better or worse. Like...
Have Sonic REALLY stupid or have Sonic the way Burmecian Soldier Dan has him in his story.
If you are refering to Sega Sonic, then yeah.
But we are talking about Archie Sonic, a different Hedgehog.
No, OOC is not good or bad. It is bad, period. We're reading to see the futures of these charachters unfold in ways that are relative to what was developed previously. To make them OOC takes the legitimacy from the storyline. So my problem here isn't just about Sonic/Sally it goes a lot farther than that. The situations being OOC, newer developments being OOC, is my problem, not simply Sonic/Sally. But the pairing itself is a big reason as to why Ken wants to make the story an OOC fest.
Other issues I have are:
Sal going back on the battlefeild. Sally is described as a wise charachter on many occassions. She also has learned the mortality of things on many occassions. I would think that she'd apply that wisdom and make sure the freedom fighters can lead and think for themselves. To rely on someone else to do that, when they could leave your world at any time is very risky. She's felt the pain of losing loved ones like Sonic and Julayla, so why would she want to risk them?
Rotor and his "I don't wanna use guns policy, and we never have!" when he's been sporting weapons related to guns in previous issues before (*cough* Endgame *cough*) My fear which is being recognized... is that Ken has been out of touch with Sonic for far too long, or that he just doesn't care about how in charachter the charachters are, he just wants to change status quo or make a point.
I'm simply not going any further than saying Ken said it was (in his opinion of course).
Emphasis mine. If the characters are so OOC, then why does he bother writing them as such? Its obvious that someone else other than Ken does not see them as OOC, someone who has more of a final say than he.
Hence, it is really not OOC in that respects either, because there is a difference between opinion and fact. And at the moment, the fact is that Sonic and Sally are not OOC.
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And why is it that they had to strip Sally of her title currently, so that she could be with Sonic
See, that's worrying. He's gone and stripped Sally of her role that set her apart from everyone else and could have stories based around it, thus lessening the amount of stuff you can do with Sally and getting rid of what sets her apart, so she's in a position where she might get paired off with the main character and make the shippers happy. Her long-term potential's been discarded to make some fans happy in the short term, and that seems like a big waste.
What do you do now? You're not going to get much mileage out of a character if you just have her as The Girlfriend (or The Potential Girlfriend), she's got to have something else too. Lois Lane got to be a famous reporter; what's Sally getting to replace what she had before? If you just make her a Freedom Fighter again, what seperates her from all the others?
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Emphasis mine. If the characters are so OOC, then why does he bother writing them as such?
Because he wants M25YL? He's tried making us all beleive it's canon. Or... To make a point (looks at Rotor and his anti gun policy)?
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Its obvious that someone else other than Ken does not see them as OOC, someone who has more of a final say than he.
But you just said the whole thing about Elias being OOC to accept the throne was OOC. But that was passed by someone with final say. Just because something is inacurrate, doesn't mean the editors will always catch on. For example: Karl said the Xodra attacked the planet 3,000 years from that time, and the gene bombs created the Mobians. However Mogul is a charachter that is about 12,000 years old.
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Hence, it is really not OOC in that respects either, because there is a difference between opinion and fact. And at the moment, the fact is that Sonic and Sally are not OOC.
Well if it is a fact you'd need to prove it. Of course no relationship topics allowed 
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See, that's worrying. He's gone and stripped Sally of her role that set her apart from everyone else and could have stories based around it, thus lessening the amount of stuff you can do with Sally and getting rid of what sets her apart, so she's in a position where she might get paired off with the main character and make the shippers happy.
One more reason to hate the story. People who cared about Sally for who she was as a charachter, and not a simple love interest fall short. Even if she was a tactitian, they'd have to nod sarcastically at the story because they know the freedom fighters have managed effectively without her leadership.
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Her long-term potential's been discarded to make some fans happy in the short term, and that seems like a big waste.
The good news for this online fan (You do like Sally, right?), is that we know from BobR, that one of Ken's personal motives in making Alexis Elias' step child is so she doesn't rule. That obviously means Sally will rule eventually. But the problem is, that until she and Sonic resolve anything she will not have a unique use to the story at all. Not to mention the attempt to make them more likeable fail to resolve the current obstacles in their relationship. They're just wasting our time. What will happen when the issue of Sally ruling comes back up again? And people are getting tired of love interests being used to make things interesting.
destiny that is.
When she married Antione (even though it was the evil one)
I mean her father did say "he" was chosen to marry her, but he didn't say if it would be good Twan or Evil, now did he.
So with that in mind, I think she concertate on other things in her personal life.
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we know from BobR, that one of Ken's personal motives in making Alexis Elias' step child is so she doesn't rule. That obviously means Sally will rule eventually.
Except that doesn't make sense. Elias can always spawn a second child who would be eligable for the throne, or alter the rules so Alexis can rule (which, being King of an absolute monarchy, he could certainly do if he wanted to).
But in 121, he said he didn't want that sort of life for his children. Ken is making Elias OOC, because he wants to buy Sonic/Sally some time before the obstacles resurface. But like it was said by BobR, they don't intend to make Elias a reason for taking Sally from the throne entirely. So I doubt Ken Penders would go through the trouble of making a new child or making Elias OOC again by having that child rule. Because he wants Sally to rule. He even went out of his way to infer Alexis is his step-child so she can't rule in the future. So, you can be secure that he'll probably make Elias in charachter (in the sense he won't give his child the throne when he gives it up), because it actually works with his goal: An OOC Sonic marrying with an OOC queen Sally. OMG! Sonic isn't Sonic and Sally isn't Sally! Where have we seen that ____ isn't _____ plotline before? XD
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Then what's the point of King Elias?! That just mucks up having Sally as ruler, has Elias out of character and means having to get rid of him somehow so she can come back. Was that seriously the only way Ken could think of to sort of Evil!Antoine and the Sally marriage plot?
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Then what's the point of King Elias?!
To buy Sonic/Sally some time. While Elias is ruling, fans may not realize the hint of emphasizing Alexis illegitimacy. That hint (barring her from the throne) was to say Sal, not the family Elias has established, is supposed to rule next eventually. Elias even telling Sally to persue Sonic was an indicator what he was buying her time for. So, if Ken's idea works, fans won't consider the obstacles of the Sonic/Sally pairing when it was obvious Sally was to eventually rule. As those obstacles obviously put Sonic/Sally support into such a decline that even BobR contributed in some of the Sonic/Sally fan panic. Ken probably is hoping right now fans will allow themselves to attatch to the Sonic/Sally pairing, and so when the time comes for him to pair of an OOC Sonic and Sally, he'll work with the "oh they're so popular card", to get around the sad idea that should his plan ever work... Sonic and Sally would be OOC.
Next on Fox; Sonic and Sally in "The O.O.C."
Sonic and Sally actually can NEVER get married, as it would kill Sonic's character completly and in turn, would kill the book. Sonic is basically a free spirit who runs where he wants to and does whatever he wants. He can never be tied down like that.
The whole conversation is a bit pointless anyway, as they cannot evolve or age too far. Look at Archie. Is he ever going to choose between Betty or Veronica? No. Are Huey, Dewey, and Louie going to get older? No. Are Micky and Minnie ever going to get hitched? Probably not. So don't expect Sonic and Sally to have anything more than an "off again, on again" relationship.
Now, you might say, "but Knuckles has a steady girlfriend!" We'll that actually works toward his character. He's all about being a guardian, and his family legacy. If he were to get hitched, it wouldn't affect his character much. It wouldn't work with say, Rouge because she's very independant and uses her sexuality to get what she wants. She's a character you can definitley see not settling down anytime soon.
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Are Micky and Minnie ever going to get hitched? Probably not.
They married in Kingdom Hearts though o.o.
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Probably not. So don't expect Sonic and Sally to have anything more than an "off again, on again" relationship.
I'd think Sally would eventually make an effort to truly get over him. Sally is always being reffered to as a wise princess, but she has yet to wise up, despite every time Sonic's hurt her. Now, maybe if she were an average girl it wouldn't be as big a deal. But she needs a consort to be there for her emotionally should anything happen. If no one's there to pick her up when she's emotionally drained,it could effect how she governs.
Not to mention she doesn't want someone she can lose all over again. Even if the throne weren't an issue, you'd think the concept of death would keep her from the battlefeild and keep her distant from Sonic because she's affraid she'd lose him or whomever replaces him in her heart. But OOC Sally and all her wisdom seems to have forgotten this all in the name of OOC SonSal. Penders, obviously for the sake of his M25YL story wants to make us beleive it could be "long term", but making the charachters BLATANTLY OOC isn't IMO very convincing.
But, I agree with you though. Whether they could or couldn't be long term shouldn't be an issue since the comic will never reach that point. So why he's going out of his way to make aaaalll the charachters OOC in the name of a marriage, something the series won't touch anyway, is IMO... "way past uncool."
I do want to say that I found Sally just as interesting when she was basically just a freedom fighter, and I agree that is when she is at her best. There is a spark to her when she is in that role that I like. That is why I would not mind if she goes back to that role.
Also, I think you might want to consider closing this thread, it seems to getting too relationship focused.
With all the complaining we do, I am surprised the comic has lasted as long as it has and wonder how much more fans can take.
If this was a relationship thread I would agree to a closing, but it isn't. It's a Discuss Issue #156 thread and it should stay open. As long as the discussion doesn't head too far off the topic it should be cool.
The rule reminds me, in English Football you're not allowed to stand up, but if you all stand up, the Stuwards do nothing about it.
So its a lot like the NRT rule
C'est nul !
2/10
And let Antoine put his "make-up kit" on his night table for all to see ! The best way for a clandestine life amongst bad guys.
The trouble with the relationship talk is that much of this issue is about relationships.
It's like trying to talk about "Love & Loss" WITHOUT talking ANY relationships. None.
If we can't discuss relationships here, then where? Most of the time, people are talking about relationships here anyway. Although it's technically Archie's fault for that happening, what with the ways the stories have developed lately.
