that would make alot of sense.

but apparently doc finitevus knows about his plans already. so it'll really be interesting to see how it plays out.

Whatdaya mean, that Finitevus knows the Big A's plans? Maybe he is Anon's spokesman until he is ready to reveal himself.

Glad to hear someone else is thinking the same thing I am. I first proposed that theory in the middle of one of the threads about issues #157-159. I didn't bother including any evidence though because I thought Anonymous was going to be revealed at that time. One thing bugs me about that theory as I think about it though... if Anonymous would be Prof. Gerald, then why would he hack the Metal Sonic Troopers and reprogram them to attack his own grandson/descendant?

Hmm, good question, maybe to test Eggys skills, maybe he realizes that he is not his actual grandson, or he maybe just plum crazy or maybe just maybe that could be a chink in my theory's armor.

when finitevus mentioned "first we must weather the coming storm" meaning he knew something was going to happen.

Ah, okay, I see. Yes, he does seem to know what's going on so he may either be Anoynomous or working for him. Fascinating!

Hey. What if Anonymous is Nate somehow?

couldn't be. he'd have to be as tall as robotnik.

if the whole Stature comment was never made then the only two possibilities would have to be The other kintobor or doc fin.

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No, not really. The censored spot was Robotnik's height. That only means that Anonymous is no larger than Robotnik. He could quite easily be smaller.

As I mentioned at one time, for me this goes back to the Sonic/Image crossover from 6-7 years ago, remember there was an Issac there, and a nameless villian, who told Sonic, he have to wait until the real End game to find out who he is.

But hey that's just my opnion.

What do you think?

Do you agree or disagree with that.

Sounds like a good theory, Rayzor.

My personal opinion: KNUCKLES! Yes, Knuckles. Notice how Anonymous never showed his face during RTAI, and that any time Anonymous has interfered, Knuckles has NOT been involved. When he said that he'd finish off the Destructix in the most recent issue, he was really helping them ESCAPE!

....so THERE!

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I doubt it seriously. Ian, in his thread, said that he had plans for Nate well down the line, and that those plans would have to be green lighted; I'm quite sure that Ian already has thrown the idea who anon is to Mike and his Nate idea seems like it will have to be green lighted far after the anon mystery is published.

I agree, with you Ryzor, but what do you think of my theory?

Well, I never did read the Image crossover special so all I can go on is what you have said before and if I remember correctly you talk about them being an mysterious Ivan character. If I recall that correctly, I believe it could be Ivan Kintobor himself; indeed, even if you didn't call him Ivan, this mysterious character you speak of could still be Anoynomous/Ivan Kintobor. I believe it shall all tie in.

That character is named Ian Droid. He, like Particle, is a character from Ken's graphic-novel-in-progress, The Lost Ones. Ken originally wanted to have him be a temporary antagonist until Robotnik returned. This never happened.

I doubt Ian Droid is involved.

Approximately one year ago, Ken stated that the name of the evil doctor from SSS#7 was "Ian Droid," but the name was never used for legal purposes. Then, he later said that "Ian Droid" isn't his true name...

This led me to assume his real name was Ivan Kintobor, being preserved in the bunker for 12,000 years by the PROTOTYPE (Remember? The title of #146 was "Prototype?") of Isaac. Everything seemed to add up.

Then, Ken lost his job with Archie. During his sceduled chat shortly later, he confirmed that Anonymous was to be Ivan Kintobor. But, now that Ian's writing, it could be anybody.

I'm placing bets on Finitevus.

he would be the most logical choice. (i mean ivan)

but finitevus seems more... obligated to do it. i'm basing that on his data file when it said he was a being of magic and science. (something like that, i'd have to dig up that issue to get a direct quote.)

Some direct quotes from Ken's chat:

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Dirk_Amoeba: Ken, who is Ian Droid from SSS#7?
KenPenders: Ian Droid was my character from the Lost Ones, which for the purpose of the Sonic book I was going to allow Archie to use as an alternate version of Robotnik until the big reveal in SONIC #75.

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KenPenders: I don't know who Anonymous is eventually going to be unveiled as. Originally, i was going to reveal it was Robotnik's ancestor from SONIC #146- #149, but Mike scotched that once Joe factored in Professor Gerald in one of his stories
JE: Oops. Ken just gave away the plot of Sonic X # 29!
Dirk_Amoeba: But what Joe says in Sonic X doesn't affect StH, does it?
KenPenders: Dirk, the concern with SONIC X was making sure it had it's own distinct identity. The other concern was that its popularity didn't adversely affect the flagship series.
Dirk_Amoeba: Ah, I see what you mean. And I agree with Mike, that is quite important.
KenPenders: regarding future Sonic storylines, you'll have to ask Ian or Joe or whomever else is involved. I've turned a page and have no answers beyond what I've done.
EthanEmerald: Do you THINK (Just guessing on your part, Ken) that the Doctor from GBU will ever appear again, if he's not going to be Anonymous? (From previews of Sonic #162-#163, it looks like Finitevus is going to be Anonymous.)
KenPenders: Chances are the Doctor from GBU will never appear again, but Ian or someone else could prove me wrong.

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Aha. Just like I said.

Thanks for the quote, Dirky.

Well, I was right about Ivan Kintobor=Gerald Robotnik=Anonymous that is when Ken was writer; now that Ian has the reigns (and in light of these new revelations) my theory may have just gone down the drain. I am now anxious who Anon really is and to see it my theory can hold any water whatsoever.

well i put in a question in the ian topic that might help sort this out. if he decides to answer it.

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I don't think he said Ivan = Gerald, he said that the idea of introducing Anonymous as that ancestor of Robotnik's was nixed, probably because they had another "ancestor of Robotnik" and didn't want the two series to be using similar ideas at the same time.

Ah, gotcha!!!!

The silhouette's outline reminds me of Rotor (is that a tail behind the left foot?). Not saying that he is Anonymous, but it is more than a little suspicious that he is missing this entire issue. I'm not sure if he stuck around during the previous stories involving Anonymous, but Rotor may have the brains to pull something like this off, considering his forte in technological sciences. I have no idea if his height matches that of Robotnik's, but Rotor seems taller than most of the Knothole Freedom Fighters from what I can recall.

Then again, it could be Ivan.

you make a very accurate point. why rotor would want to destroy everybody i don't know, but he is smart enough to do this.

Aren't we overlooking the possibilty that Ivan and Gerald are two completely seperate people? Besides, didn't the back story in issue #98 last show Gerald being taken away to be executed? He ceratinly didn't appear to be in any position to to overpower his guards and escape and I doubt they would let him do his work without checking for a concealed weapon or device of some sort. I also remember thought bubbles from him stating that he was reprogramming Shadow to carry out his vengeance even after his death.

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No, I think most people are aware that that is not only possible but very very likely.

Yes, that is true fansinceissue10, but the Rotor theroy is a good one too, I mean think of it, Rotor is loyal, and ,maybe is trying to make things the way there suppose to be.

But then again, it could be Dr. F., but hey, maybe, just maybe it's the origanl the Robotnik.

Guess we'll find out soon.

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No, it won't be him. Ian said in his thread that Robotnik-Prime is gone for good. And yes, I know that it's possible that Ivan and Gerald are different people and that is very likely but I'm just saying that there's some possiblity that they could be one-in-the-same.

But what about my/the Rotor theory, Rayzor?

I doubt if Rotor is Anonymous he would be setting things right, after all the wrong doing he has ensued. I recall an issue back in the early days when the comic was more humor based and involved Robotnik Prime and Rotor unmasking each other to reveal who was the true Rotor and Robotnik in front of Sonic. They were equally the same height. I wonder if Eggman's height matches that of Robotnik Prime's?

Perhaps the preview's description of "a fallen hero and a hidden villain revealed!" meant Rotor? After all, considering Rotor's close ties to Sonic, he could have monitored Sonic's every battle.

I don't really think Rotor is Anoynomous! But I'm almost sure that it is Tails from Ken's verson of STH 25 Year's Later story! Cuz Tails is even smarter then Rotor and Eggman. Plus he would have the most reason to kill the past Sonic and some of the other major bad guys that Tails really hates. And cuz of the stuff that's going on right now with Sonic, Fonia Fox and himself. Plus the outfit kind of looks like what Merlin Prower is wearing in #162 and I think Archie Comics only made it look like he was big and heavy set just to throw all of us off a little. But he's really thin or maybe he has a well built body like Geoffrey St. John does have but I'm only just guessing here so I might be right or wrong about who Anoynomus could be if it's not Tails!

okay, completly disregarding the last post.

Ian did say robotnik prime was gone for good, so he's not anonymous.

it very well could be rotor. he even knows a little about the ancient walkers. as for monitoring every one of sonic's battles he very well could have.

But for what purpose? Seriously, if it would be Rotor, I'm not seeing the motivation here.

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Not sure, but Anonymous could be who we least expect. So I'm sure there will be a logical reason if it is him.

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I'm flattered that you value my input, bw, but I'm just a fan like you espousing my theories nothing more, nothing less; however, I myself do not see Rotor being anonymous for he is Sonic's friend and I can't bring myself to believe Rote would do anything to harm his bud.

Now, maybe it might be Evil Rotor or another evil Rote from another dimension, but Rotor Prime, nuhuh, could not fathom it really.

I did not say Rotor was Anoynomous in my last post! I'm saying that I think Future Tails is really Anoynomous maybe. Cuz it makes the most sense and tell why! I think that Archie Comics might be using some ideas from a fanfic story about Tails ending the war between the FF and Eggman.

No I don't think so, because IP, doesn't want that story or any refenece to it mentioned at all.

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no. in reality, anonymous is... Alexander Luthor and superboy prime!

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I did not say Rotor was Anoynomous in my last post!

I'm saying that I think Future Tails is really Anoynomous maybe. Cuz it makes the most sense and tell why! I think that Archie Comics might be using some ideas from a fanfic story about Tails ending the war between the FF and Eggman.

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Dude, did I even mention your name? I wasn't talking to you; I was talking to bw1979! I don't know if it's your ego or what that even gave you the idea that I was talking you but you need to get your head out of the clouds!!

Yes, I knew you were saying it was Tails, but I wasn't going to reply but you opened the wound again. Your extreme Tails-fanboyism is as well documented as Pat L Hedgehog's extreme Pro-Sega-Anti-Nintendo-fanboyism (if you don't know who Pat L is just go to the Gaming Academy and look his posts up) and getting just as annoying. Seriously, you know that Tails ain't going to become the hero of the comics like you wanted so now your wanting him to become the villian.

Tails, is the "Chosen One," a hero among heroes, so there is no way he's gonna be Anon, no matter how mad/jealous he is at Sonic for going out with Fiona! Now, maybe, just like the Rote theory, it may be an evil version of Tails, but there is no way, repeat no way, that it is Tails Prime as you wish it was. (Boy, talking about all these primes makes me feel like I was talking about Transformers instead of Sonic. ) And no, it's not a future version of Tail Prime either. So, Rattrap, please, shut your trap about all of these inane Tails fan(boy) theories.

seriously, i think we can pretty much rule out alternate universe people. it would be more than just a little lame of ian to have to resort to alternate realities so soon.

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seriously, i think we can pretty much rule out alternate universe people. it would be more than just a little lame of ian to have to resort to alternate realities so soon.

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Yeah, that's true, but I really don't think it is a alt version of any Freedom Fighter. I was just saying that the only way Anon could be Rote or Tails is if it were to be an alt reality version of them; I could not imagine Rotor or, especially, Tails turning on Sonic like that. Seriously, I truely do not expect it to be anybody from an alt zone or time zone, and I still stand by my conclusion about Ivan Kintobor being Anon, whether he is Gerald or not.

if he was gerald, then shadow would be WAYY more than just 50 years old.

We can rule out Tails, because Anonymous clearly has a master plan which relies on information that Tails doesn't know or has only learned in issue 162.

We cannot really rule out Rotor, because truth be told we haven't seen an awful lot of him since "Tossed in Space" and what little we have seen has mostly consisted of him convincing the Freedom Fighters to take a passive role in the war on Robotnik. That's really not the Rotor we knew. Whether we can chalk that up to bad writing or up to Rotor turning evil, we can't be sure. I don't htink it's Rotor, but there's no real evidence against Rotor as far as I know.

Gerald can be ruled out because he's dead and Ian has said that's he's basically sticking to a dead means dead policy.

Ivan Kintobor can probably be ruled out because Ken says Mike nixed the Ivan=Anonymous idea.

Dr. Finitevus is probably the frontrunner, mainly because in issue 161 he, like Anony, seems to be putting major plans into motion that are only partially concerned with causing grief for Sonic. And we know from the cover that Dr. Fin will appear in TDS.

My money's on Dr. Fin, but I wouldn't mind a surprise.

Yeah I go with him too, but one never knows what IP will put out the hat, perhaps something that will totally floor us.

Which characters match Eggman's height? I checked issue #108, both Robotnik Prime and Eggman are equal. I am ruling out Robotnik Prime due to Ian's policy about dead characters, and afterall I didn't expect the original Dr. R to return any time soon, or at all for that matter. Although considering the clues in #135, anyone who has matched Eggman and the previous Robotnik in the past is a possible suspect.

Sonic #3 is the issue featuring Rotor and Robotnik disguised as each other. I'm not a Rotor fanboy, although I think there is a fair amount of evidence to consider him a suspect.

As for Finitevus, I think it would be too obvious if it were him.

Anonymous does not necessarily have to be the same height as Robotnik. He cannot be larger, but he may be smaller.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

Or, Anon Photoshopped that image! =O He could be any size due to the wonders of Photoshop! The black square was just to throw us off! =O

I still think height plays an important factor in revealing his identity. Of course, I could be wrong, especially since Ken's idea was scrapped.