well, we don't know that his idea was Scrapped for sure, unless ian told us that. so in theory unless Ian flat out said "anonymous is NOT Ivan kintobor", then kens idea may still be alive.
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I still think height plays an important factor in revealing his identity.
I disagree. The block that Anonymous used to cover himself was big enough to cover someone of Robotnik's height. That logically means that it would have covered anyone Robotnik's size or smaller. seeing as roughly 90 percent of the characters in the continuity fit that description, the height isn't really much of a hint.
Anyway...
Someone on Ian's board suggested Dimitri. I think that's plausible. Perhaps there's a connection between him and Dr. Fin.
Ian said he didn't have any plans for dimitri for awhile, so it's safe to say anonymous isn't him seeing as how we'll know who he is in 2 (possibly 1) issues. but dmitri having some connection to fin sounds plausible.
I'll take another stab at this and say it's someone we least expect.
And remember storywriters when it comes to stories like this one, always say things to throw off the reader, so won't ask too many questions on the mystery villian is.
Come on, now.
We all know who Anonymous is.
It's Sally Acorn. 
Seriously (or maybe not) Sally has a motivation to do it. She wants Sonic to like her, and if he won't, no one will be allowed to have him!
I'm sure people would have kittens if Sally was Anonymous, but still. Sally's been a bit unhinged lately, and how come Sally hesitated when explaining where the sword was <i>unless</i> she had an idea of what was going to happen to all those people in the pods?
...IT'S GENIUS!
*is shot*
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I'm sure people would have kittens if Sally was Anonymous, but still.
And they'd ALL look like the one in your sig.
hell, you may just be right cookirini. it's gotta be someone we don't expect.
I hope it is not Sally, because I don't like the idea of Sally being a villain. Sure she would like Sonic and her to get back together, but I like to think she is not that desparate.
I think it is possible it might be Fiona, because of her shady past. I do admit that I want to be Fiona for personal reasons so this probably is wishful thinking on my part, and I'll leave it at that.
well we have to think of one person who's smart enough to manipulate all of these events, someone has access to some extreme computer hacking skills, knows about most things magic, and is someone sonic and company have no idea about.
i don't think fiona fits that description.
Nicole's furry version! =O It has to be! Possibly trying to set things in motion for the future, perhaps?
That's why I'm sticking with my Nate theory. He's a technological genius(who created the power rings!!!) that the original Robotnik studied under and has not been seen since issue #110 where his roboticized form was only 'speculated' to have been slagged. He may not appear to have had much knowledge on magic, but that didn't stop him from stopping Naugus before, so he could probably deal with Mogul similarly. With all the crazy stuff that's been happening the past few years including the Bem deroboticizing everyone, it seems logical to me that not everyone would make it out unhinged, which might make for a somewhat plausible explanation for him becoming evil if that would be the case. With all this in mind especially everyone believing he's dead, Nate seems like the most capable character who's already been seen that could pull this off and shock everyone by revealing himself.
But, yet again, Ian has made it known that he doesn't have any plans for Nate in the near future and his plans for him would also have to be greenlighted before they could even be implemented.
That doesn't necessaily mean anything - if I were Ian, I'd certainly be trying to throw everyone off the track as to who Anonymous is. All this "I have no plans for this character" stuff could just be a lie.
Can anyone come up with any good reason(s)why Sally is not anoynomous? I am starting to kind of worry that she is, it seems to make the most sence to me.
BtW, when should we know?
Ian said Anonymous will be revealed during the Darkest Storm story arch; so, we should know either in a few weeks or by next month who Anon is.
To Matt, I don't think Ian is lying. Usually, when he doesn't want to reveal a secret, he says no comment or something. Case in point, when I asked Ian awhile back if Tails would ever find out that Merlin was his uncle, Ian said no comment, and now I see why, Merlin told Tails that he was his uncle in 162. (which I'm sure you're well aware of)
Anoynomous is either that albino echidna or Snively I think.
Snively being the most likely.
In lieu of the Sniv backup in 162, I really don't think Sniv is Anon though he could make sense. While I still stick to my theory as being fairly sound, I will agree that it probably is Doc F.
I think Snively is anon. He would have the knowledge of robiticization and all the tech genius of that of Robotnik since he was Robotnik's lackey for most of the comic series. Plus from the memory banks of the roboticized Destructix that eggman received they said they knew they could trust anon rather then Robotnik... and Snively was trusted by the destructix or atleast earned their trust and respect after he "broke them out" of Devils Gulag.. and we all know that who else but eggmans backstabbing powerhungry nephew would want to off eggman once and for all..
There are quite a lot of people who might have a grudge against Robotnik. But in issue 162, we really got inside Snively's head for the first time since (I believe) the Gulag escape, so we've seen that he's sincerely on Robotnik's side for the moment.
You know I'm really starting to agree with the theories about Snively being Anoynomous! I mean he's the real snake the grass as far as bad guys go in the Sonic comic book. Just watch how he act'ed from that one Sonic cartoon that had him in it. And who could ever forget that one line. That he said at the end of the last episode. The big round guy let Sonic beat him. Well now it's my turn!
(Walk's away with an evil laugh.) And then we see the red glowing eyes in the dark!
yeah, but he knows almost nothing about magic. and he sure hasn't seen all of sonic's battles.
I just thought about something...please excuse my bad english (since french is my 1st language...)
Anonymous could be the Sonic from M25YL:
-He obviously knows everything about Sonic and the threats he battled against
-when Future Sonic (the one from M25YL) "disappeared" in #144, Lara-Su disappeared too, meaning that Future Sonic changed things in the past, causing her to disappear. Well, since he didn't like to be king, maybe he re-arranged the past by modifying certains events?
It may be why Shadow is the king in the previews of the next M25YL stories...
and if Future Sonic wants to change the past, he must not be recognised, so he's hiding...as Anonymous?
It could work...
Yeah it could but there's just one thing wrong with that theory. Everone know's Sonic is not that smart (Even the Sonic from M25YL or not.) In fact here is a list of who it could or might be!
1. Ivan Kintobor
2. Miles Tails Prower (From M25YL.)
3. Sally Acorn
4. Bunnie Rabbot
5. Foina Fox
6. Shadow The Hedgehog
7. Nate Morgan
8. Rotor
9. Lara-Su (From M25YL.)
10. Snively
11. Someone new who has yet to be seen?
12. One of the older Sonic character that has not been seen in a real long time in the comic book?
For the love of Pete.... IAN ALREADY SAID IT'S SOMEONE WE'VE SEEN BEFORE!!!!!
He must've said that somewhere around 2 weeks ago. Check his thread. Frankly I'm thinking either Nate or Feist. Regardless, we should know in about 2 more weeks. I just don't want anyone to make a thread with a synopsis about this issue simply for the sake of maintaining the surprise.
quote/ 1. Ivan Kintobor
2. Miles Tails Prower (From M25YL.)
3. Sally Acorn
4. Bunnie Rabbot
5. Foina Fox
6. Shadow The Hedgehog
7. Nate Morgan
8. Rotor
9. Lara-Su (From M25YL.)
10. Snively
11. Someone new who has yet to be seen?
12. One of the older Sonic character that has not been seen in a real long time in the comic book? /quote
(sorry ezPost is being a C you next tuesday)
there's a few problems with your list there chief. Sally,bunnie,and fiona haven't seen all of Sonic's fights. Nate morgan is dead, Rotor Could be anonymous(he's basically the only one on your list who could be.) Lara-Su has no motivation, doesn't have access to technology hacking skills better than robotnik's, and is still in high school.
Snively COULD be anonymous. but i'm personally guessing he isn't.
HAHAHA!!!!!! I KNOW who Anonymous is........ it HAS to be......
No one has guessed this character yet... I wonder why... but I couldn't stand it anymore! From what I've read in my comics and from the post about #163, I think that it HAS to be.......::::
A.D.A.M.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He has access to all of Robotnik's files and any files Robo has about the others. Robotnik said that Anonymous "set his Nanites to spreading"--what ADAM did in #152. When the spider-kids attacked in #162, ADAM could just be lying to Robotnik about why the grapes powered up and that he couldn't stop it.
ALSO... in #163 I read that ADAM blamed Mecha and had her destroyed for helping the kids. Mecha said he was lying, but ADAM "couldn't lie..." BS!!! He obviously passed over that part of his programing. Look at EVE! At what she did! Plus, I don't think it was coincidence that Sonic dealt with EVE in space and then came home to a new enemy named ADAM...
Maybe EVE will come back and stop ADAM! Or Nicole will get involved and be able to stay in her mobian form!!!!!!! I don't know. What do you guys think about my theory?
someone guessed it on Ian's board, but you'd be the first here. (i think)
it makes sense, but i don't think i'd be shocked.
And just how do you suppose he would have been able to learn anything about Mammoth Mogul or the curse put over him by the Ancient Walkers?
Also, there is no evidence available that I've heard of to confirm Nate is dead. SO IMO he is just nearly dead like in the movie "Princess Bride."
Yes, there is evidence that Nate is dead and that is Ian himself. When I asked about good ol' Nate, he said his idea for Nate would be waaaaay down the line if it was even greenlighted at all. And no, I seriously doubt he was lying for if something is coming up soon he usually just says wait and see just like when I asked if Merlin would reveal to Tails that he was Tails' uncle.
As for ADAM, I was thinking about that too after reading the topic for 163, and the whole EVE thing also makes sense. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Eggman doesn't know how he really made ADAM so ADAM could have implanted himself into Eggy's computer while making Ivo think he created him by accident. As for how he knew about Mogul, etc., he could have known about this before he infected Eggman's computer or maybe just maybe he was downloaded into Eggman's computer by Ivan Kintobor and/or Isaac and then left to develop on his own.
i think the main arguement about it was something like ADAM wasn't made before anonymous showed up.
he Still COuld be though.
For some reason I'm betting Anonymous is Shadow. Don't know why exactly.
All right, time to do a serious post in this thread.
Let's see here, Anonymous obviously has great hacking skills, if they were able to infiltrate Eggman's software. So, who is proficient at hacking?
Nicole
Rotor Walrus
Miles "Tails" Prower
Uncle Chuck
A.D.A.M.
Dr. Finitevus (According to his profile)
Dr. Eggman (That's right, I'm not ruling him out)
We have these five subjects, all who are adept at hacking, and even managed to break into Eggman's systems (save for A.D.A.M., who's already there).
Next, we have people who know magic, and history of Mobius (at least parts of it, including the Ancient Walkers).
Merlin Prower (I don't see why not)
Athair the Echidna
Mammoth Mogul (Outside connections, perhaps?)
Ixis Naugus
Dr. Finitevus (According to his profile, he should know a bit about magic)
Possibly more which I can't remember at this time
And lastly, Anonymous is someone who has seen all of Sonic's battles (well, within reason, say when Sonic got launched into space).
Nicole (She's from the future, she has to know this stuff)
Merlin Prower (Being all mystical and all that)
Athair the Echidna (Being all mystical and all that)
Tails & Rotor would've heard of the battles Sonic participated in if they weren't there.
Dr. Eggman (Has access to all of Robotniks' old files which might've possibly recorded Sonic's battles)
A.D.A.M. (Has the same access as Eggman)
Dr. Finitevus (I'd like to know how he has knowledge to Sonic's battles)
Okay, drawing the list down, my bets on being Anonymous are:
Nicole - I said this in an earlier post, half-joking, and half-serious. She has the technology and the knowledge, so it's a likely possibility she could be Anonymous (or a fanfiction gone wrong), and is doing this to set things right in the world.
A.D.A.M. - Ah, the sentient virus. He could very well be playing Eggman, and everyone else, for a fool, and ordered Mecha's destruction for no reason at all. For all we know, he could've used Mecha for his own personal gain, and she could've been the one seen talking with the Destructix. Being sentient, there's just so much behind A.D.A.M. we just don't know.
Dr. Eggman - This is just an elaborate scheme concocted by Eggman, to trick everyone, even A.D.A.M. I wouldn't put this behind him. He has the motivation to do it, to get rid of Sonic, and Ixis Naugus, and his then next enemy, Mammoth Mogul.
Rotor/Tails - I'm just chucking this one in. I don't actually believe it, but it gives me something to mess with. This could actually be a joint effort between the two, as they know alot about all three categories, well, if they were to put their minds together.
Dr. Finitevus - Hmm, now this one's a toughie. We know he's a man of both science AND magic, and considering he's also a relatively new character, we know almost next to nothing about this guy, and any of his connections with Sonic, Eggman, Mammoth Mogul, and Ixis Naugus. But, it'll be interesting to see how he knows everything he does, if he does turn out to be Anonymous.
That is all. =3
It could be A.D.A.M, I mean look at the color surrording the Anyomous Figure, it's green, like A.D.A.M's virus/nanties verison when to make Bunnie part the system.
As for Finitevus: In his data-file in #161, it was explicitly stated that he is a villain gathering a small army of villains. We know this is exactly what Anonymous is doing.
But, don't forget Ivan Kintobor. We know nothing about him, either.
I'd just like to add that I don't think it could be anyone from the Freedom Fighting team (Rotor, Tails, Nicole) because in Anony's monologue in issue #162, he states that he is "the new force that will dispose of them AND Sonic." This desire to kill off Sonic wouldn't be logical for any one of the FF's (except Tails...lol.... "IHATEYOUSONIC!!!")
This also makes me think that Anony isn't any one of the three main villains, either... but who knows. I'm still betting on it being ADAM!!!
EVE WILL RETURN!!!!
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This also makes me think that Anony isn't any one of the three main villains, either... but who knows. I'm still betting on it being ADAM!!!
You probably right I mean look at the color surounding the figure in 162 at the beginning and then go back to when he try to change Bunnie.
I hope you are right about anonymous not being any of the FF's, Jerboa. I am sort of dreading the next issue, because I don't want anonoymous to be any character that I like which includes all the core FF's. Sally would not be "cool" IMO, and I would be mad. Personally, I don't want to be "shocked," and I am hoping the preview is just hype and things are being blown out of proportion.
the preview does say we will be shocked. so, i'm guessing it's a good guy.
It's ADAM, you don't believe it, read these, and figure it out for yourself, I mean who else has the means to make false footage like that:
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I mean who else has the means to make false footage like that:
Perosnally, I believe that the footage is real but Mecha doesn't remember because she was being mind-controlled like she was during Ken's last story.
New theory, although I won't be sticking to it, instead I'm just going to wait and see what happens. Regardless, here I go:
A.D.A.M is not a computer virus at all, but rather a cover up, another layer of personalities for Anonymous to persuade Eggman, as well as readers. After all, Eggman stated A.D.A.M was an accident, yet somehow Anonymous has gained access to Robotnik's system and is under the persona of A.D.A.M. Anonymous is quite possibly on the other end manipulating Eggman.
It's interesting how Eggman notes Hunter's death and Project Metal Snively from the Return to Angel Island arc in this issue. The same story arc which Finitevus made his first appearance. The event in #141 in which Hunter intends to use his Chaos Lane on Finitevus shows somewhat of a slim connection to Anonymous considering there is absolutely no information on Finitevus (only a set of five question marks and an unknown variable). Yet, somehow Finitevus reappears alive and well in #161. Proof that Finitevus survived his incident with Hunter. Hunter was under Eggman's control collar, giving further proof that if Finitevus possesses well experienced hacking skills, he could have easily escaped the situation, knowing that the mechanism was created with Eggman's technology.
Looking in even further, Finitevus could possibly just be another mask for Anonymous. He could be someone we've seen in the earlier days of the comic, taking into account he has seen Sonic the Hedgehog's every battle. Anonymous seems like a heavy set fellow anyway.
My apologies for any similar theories, I haven't looked over every post in this topic.
BTW, Mecha's self destruction sequence is kind of sad. The expression on the metallic skull makes quite the impact.
does anyone think that this is starting to be blown out of proportion?
i mean, ADAM would make the most sense. that's for sure. but we've done all of this speculating, and it occurs to me that we've already guessed who he/she is. we just can't confirm it.
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does anyone think that this is starting to be blown out of proportion?
Yes, it's just a matter of waiting. Some fans can't help but come up with new theories, it's only in a fan's nature.
Technically speaking, we won't ever know who Anonymous is until we've the identity with our own eyes. Sure someone could tell us but where's the fun in that?
i know, but at this point i wouldn't be surprised if it was darth vader.
NOOOOOOO!!!</Vader>
....While Sally would be cool.....Maybe it's Dimitri rejuvenated, in the guise of Finitevus.
I know, I know, stupid theory. But think about it. Let's say Finetivus is Anonymous. The circumstances surrounding his appearance (and Dimitri's) are as follows:
-Works for the DL, apparently the technical supervisor. We have not ever heard of him before RtAI and yet he seems to have an insider's look into the DL that only long-time higher-ups have.
-Coincidentally appears at a time when Lien-Da has announced that Dimitri is no longer with the DL.
-Possesses the technical know-how to evade Hunter's Chaos-based attack. Also can bring people to him through technology.
-Has a sufficient knowledge in magic and science, which very few people on Mobius have.
-Obviously has a beef with Sonic and his friends the size of a cow. Few enemies have this type of beef with Sonic and co. save for Naugus
-Has seen all of the battles fought by Sonic, Eggman, Naugus, and others.
How, then, does Dimitri fit as Finitevus? In the following ways:
-Knuckles saved Dimitri before his death from Emerald overload in #118. Or maybe Dimitri was faking his dying moments so Knuckles could give him power, butprobably not. Let's go with the theory that this all triggered from an accident on Knuckles' part. The output of power would have caused some revitalization of Dimitri's robotic body and spirit; after all, if Knuckles could travel through time, cheat death, fly, there's no reason why he can't rejuvenate Dimitri.
-Inadvertantly, though, the rejuvenation ended up reverting him physically into his pre-Enjerjak form (albeit a roboticized one), because the obvious frame of mind Green Knuckles was in the entire time he was green was the "make things whole again like before" mode. So, Dimitri was "made whole" like he was before he became Enerjak. Obviously, Knuckles overloading did not allow for him to be de-roboticized before Knuckles died.
-After Dimitri was saved from death, the Bem appeared and deroboticized almost everyone. Almost, of course, because of Bunnie (whose cybernetics have been ehnanced to a point beyond de-robotization) and Jules (who could not be de-roboticized due to his pre-robotization condition). Since Enerjak's cybernetics can be considered a form of robotization, voila, he is de-roboticized with the rest of the Robians.
-There is an old-saying about people who cease to be young turning to religion and so on. Well, after being rejuvenated, Dimitri has no need to re-unite people anymore. He's on par with Knuckles in many ways now, in terms of youth and stamina, which gives him more time to carry out a world domination.
-He also carries on all the knowledge he has accumulated in the centuries, making him very dangerous indeed. This would mostly likely include seeing all of the battles fought by Sonic and Eggman and such - as someone who had limitless power, no doubt Enerjak used it to look into the past of all his enemies and learn their techniques before engaging them in battle. This is especially after he got his ass kicked with those immortal words of Mammoth Mogul in his ears as he was drained of it in Knuckles #9 - he actually gets to learn from his mistakes now.
-Lien-Da never specified when Dimitri died. So, Dimitri fakes his death sometime between #125 and #139. This gives him at least a year to get ready and organize himself and convince people that he's really, honestly, totally dead. That's plenty of time for him to give himself a new name, a new identity, perhaps change his skin color or perhaps the cape is programmed to give off the illusion that his skin is white, and join the DL. After all, when Eggman conquered the island, the DL lost a lot of people. They were desperate.
-He obviously isn't a fan of Lien-Da (as Dimitri never was). If he was, he would have returned to her or we would have seen Lien-Da or any indication from Finitevus that he was working with Lien-Da. But he isn't anymore. And supposedly, he can't his dislike of her in the DL's presence without his cover being blown.
-Dimitri's probably not a fan of the Ancient Walkers, since they help Knuckles all the time. So their deaths would secure his own ambitions and free him to do a lot more. Mogul, Ixis and Sonic's deaths would free him up to take over the world - his ambition from the start.
-Whether or not he created ADAM is debatable - probably not. In this theory, ADAM was an accident by Eggman. That doesn't mean Dimitri can't get around Eggman's systems and manipulate them - and ADAM - in any way he wants. He's Dimitri, after all.
-The curse, the hit by Mogul on the Walkers - those events leading up to #118 were not negotiated by Dimitri. Nor was Sonic's trip to outer space which took a year (or maaaaybe it was....). Most of the big events after #131 that was not shown to be insttgated by Eggman, Sonic, or any romantic triangle, however, was probably caused by Anonymous, as was (most likely) the entrance of Patch and Evil Sonic into Mobius.
-I think the events in #165 - front AND back story - are going to be connected to this if my theory is correct. After all, Rouge is seen with Finitevus (and turning him in would probably give her lots of money) and Knuckles - the good guy most connected to Dimitri - is faced with something big as well, and big things don't normally happen to Knuckles without Dimitri lurking somehwere.
-And lastly, it's Dimitri! Damnit, we haven't seen Dimitri in years! I'm sure I was still in high school or just out of it the last time he showed up. We need the return of a fan favorite to finish off the story!
And don't forget. The person who shall be Anonymous is:
-Someone who has appeared in the Archie story
-Someone who's bound to shock and surprise us (i.ie. someone whom you have least expected to be the big guy here)
-Someone who, as far as I know, has not been mentioned once in this thread.
-Someone who seems to know most of the players personally (as he does Knuckles, Eggman, and Mammoth especially, and possibly Ixis as well).
So....SURPRISE! XP
..........But that's me. ^^;
At this point, I will be quite surprised no matter who it is, unless it is Dr. Fin.
cookirini, you have no idea how much i'd love for that to happen.
Hmm, All the Anonymous talk is very interesting. Tho I'm not sure who/what I believe is responsible, Cooki's theory really grabs my attention as being suprising yet plausible. I would like to point out however that Lien-Da never to my knowledge said Dmitri was dead just that he was "no longer with us". While this is a common euphemism for death, there is no guarantee that she meant it as such. She could have merely wanted to give Knux and Sonic that impression. "No longer with us" could mean he was no longer working with her (or the DL), or that his appearance/personality had changed so he was not recognizable as Dmitri anymore, etc. But as that neither validates nor discredits her theory I don't spose it matters much.
I would like to point out however that Lien-Da never to my knowledge said Dmitri was dead just that he was "no longer with us". While this is a common euphemism for death, there is no guarantee that she meant it as such. She could have merely wanted to give Knux and Sonic that impression. "No longer with us" could mean he was no longer working with her (or the DL), or that his appearance/personality had changed so he was not recognizable as Dmitri anymore, etc.
Good point, Puar. Though IMO, I think the death euphemism implies that - Lien-Da believes him dead. I don't think she would have looked so gleefully diabolical if she meant something less than Dimitri's death. This is, after all, the woman has been angling for the Grandmaster position and most likely praying for the deaths of her predecessors practically since the moment we were introduced to her. The woman is willing to off other family members (Julie-Su, Knuckles, Mari-Su, Luger, and even Kragok didn't trust her not to kill him) to get to it.
