You know, if there's one thing that's got me ticked off at Archie, is how they've created some good characters in the past, then either misused them, or forgot about them altogether.
Take Mammoth Mogul for one exemple. The first time I saw him, I thought: "Wow, what a nifty concept: the furry equivalent of Vandal Savage, only with Chaos Emeralds! I can't wait to see him again!" ...And I was even impressed when he did come back, his first major scheme involving him tricking the Freedom Fighters into going home with a fake Sword of Acorns, while he used the real deal to steal Enerjak's power.
...Unfortunetly, that was basically Mammoth Mogul at his best, because since then he's just been a living plot device, rather then a true villain. And now he's pretty much dead. LAAAME!
Dudes, he's an Immortal who's been around for hundreds of thousands of years. I'd expect him to have a network of spies and operatives all over Mobius, probably even a few savage tribes who worship him as a god.. Frankly, I'm disappointed.
And another character who got the shaft: Dulcy the Dragon. One of the important supporting cast members of Sonic SatAM, and after her introductory story in Archie, she basically gets shoved in Limbo, only brought out as a plot device to prove Sonic's innocence in Endgame, and later as the victim of draconic domestic violence.. ...Poor Dulcy, what they've done to you...
So, what other minor character do you think's gotten the shift from Archie?
Drago the Wolf and his gang. He's a cool bad guy that hasn't been seen since #117.
I feel your pain. I too have much love for the Mogul, and for the gang Drago hangs out with. And I write for the comic now, so that all that as you will 
And while I have no immediate plans for Dulcy myself, I do know she has one of her own stories on the way. When any of this will be printed, I can't say.
Just keep the faith. The good stuff just keeps on a-comin'!
While we're at it, does Knuckles and the Echidnas in general have a continuation to RTAI in the works?
I was always very fond of the Substitute Freedom Fighters. Larry Lynx and the eagle (Cyrus? Cecil?) we can do without, but I'd love to see Penelope, Hamlin, Dylan, and the other guy whose name I can't quite remember... I think he's an aardvark? Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing those four again.
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I feel your pain.
Really? Does it feel anything... Like this? Heh heh... Had to say that.... sorry. I want to see Nic back, too and Nack become a more major character instead of a few appearences every 50 issues. And Bark and Bean are cool too.
Mary-an. Her character was awesome! More of her and Rob-o the hedge would be cool.
I'd like to see Sally Acorn again, 'cause I don't know who that is sitting on the throne right now.
-Shakudo-
"SSA 2005 finalist! Whoo!"
Uma Arachnis. I mean, NINJA SPIDER!!!
The Ancient Walkers. I really enjoyed the mysticism surrounding them around the Knuckles Quest period, and they were less of a dud than Aurora.
Enerjak. He was the biggest threat in the Knuckles series... for two story arcs. Then he lost his power and slowly underwent a personality transplant. I'm not saying I dislike Dimitri as he is now, but I thought Enerjak bit it WAY too quickly.
Kragok. Crappiest, most anti-climatic death ever.
Naugus. The most bizarre, enigmatic character in the cartoon series is a complete dud in the comic. He had something going for him up to and including the Return of The King special, but ended up being your generic comic supervillain in the end.
Lupe. Another character from the cartoon who pops into the comic occasionally, Lupe has never really DONE anything except for the occasional minor aid to the Freedom Fighters, and a story arc that ends in her robotization. Pretty much every appearance has been superfluous at best, yet she's still gained many fans. Which is awesome, but she really needs to be a more important figure in the future.
Fiona. Essentially a completely different character from the one we became interested in with the "Growing Pains" arc. With Fiona's new hard-ass attitude I have a hard time caring about her at all.
Elias. I always got the impression that his story was just beginning, that he would eventually be able to find the adventure he allegedly craved. But after being neck-deep in ANGST practically as soon as he left the Floating Island, and subsequently running away, he quickly shacked himself up with a wife two towns over. Everything that made his character complelling was flushed down the toilet.
Uh, this is getting a bit long... I'll just cut it short here.
Don't expect to see Uma, Scarecrow, she went to the big spider-web in the sky. Last mentioned the AW was dying and for all we know maybe alread dead and possibly one with the Chaos Force by now. Enerjak is definitly gone because Dmitri is now good and I cannot see him going back; the only possiblity I see is that he comes back to help the others in some big battle against a super enity possibly being his scrafice or something. Others we'll be seeing them. Myself, I want to see Nate come back(along with Agnis(sp) and Colin) maybe their metallic hides allowed them to survive and the Bem de-roticize them. Man, I thought Nate was pretty cool what with his power ring eyepiece and all.
Fair enough. I had assumed the topic was about Archie characters who got the shaft, whether they're alive or not.
Well, considering Mammoth Mogul is pretty much KIA now, I'd say that we don't need to limit ourselves to living characters either. And all of the above are good suggestions, especially Naugus.
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but I'd love to see Penelope, Hamlin, Dylan, and the other guy whose name I can't quite remember... I think he's an aardvark?
Arlo. He's supposed to be an armadillo.
Personally I think they could've done more with Aurora. So in a way, she got the shaft as well IMO.
Yeah, so I just ordered #'s 66-77 from Archie, filling a big gap in my Sonic collection. I can finally truly appreciate Uncle Nate, and say with a pure heart that he should come back. He is one of the coolest, most colorful character this series has, and we truly don't know what happened to him. Bring back Nate!
umm, we do know what happened to him. he went up with the rest of Robotropolis in Station Sqaures nuclear attack.
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Fair enough. I had assumed the topic was about Archie characters who got the shaft, whether they're alive or not.
I wasn't saying you couldn't, scare, I was just saying that don't expect them to come back, not that they didn't get the shaft.
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umm, we do know what happened to him. he went up with the rest of Robotropolis in Station Sqaures nuclear attack.
We don't know that precisely, Kray, for all we know their metallic hides could've saved them or some other explanation could have them come back.
I gotta admit, after the shlock in Mecha Madness where both Mecha-Sonic and Mecha-Knuckles survived a half-dozen nuclear weapons (barely), there's still a chance Nate could come back. But I really hope not.
Queen Alica, I am interested in her because she is Sally's mother but I don't think we have gotten to know much about what she is like as a creature.
umm, we do know what happened to him. he went up with the rest of Robotropolis in Station Sqaures nuclear attack.
Doesn't mean a thing. They've brought characters back from the grave thousands of times. Why should he be any exception?
And please don't say it's just because he's an overlander.
The humanoid characters seem to be portrayed as weak individuals as well compared to the mobians. o.O
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Queen Alica, I am interested in her because she is Sally's mother but I don't think we have gotten to know much about what she is like as a creature.
That's what was so great about "The Royal Signet." It fleshed out the Queen in a way that few characters in the comic have been.
Not really a character, but a plot point: What ever happened to the hype about Sonic's five fingeredness? Everyone was all curious about it for a while, now it's just like "meh".
Other than that? Boomer. He's always a wallflower, and that sucks cuz he's a fun character.
Aaron
that was really never a plot point. it was mentioned in passing in the SA crossover, but it was the pointing out of the obvious. it was never intended to have any greater significance.
I suppose, but what's the point of pointing it out if it doesn't matter? Rule number one of good story telling: Don't make note of something if it isn't important.
*shrug*
I still want to see more of boomer lol
Aaron
I agree that Nate Morgan and the other overlanders should be brought back. I also think the Downunda Freedom Fighters should return, especially Barby Koala. She seriously was the only girl to truly express in action and words that she had the hots for Tails, and he liked it too! Even Sonic saw that she wanted Tails! But the last time this happened way back in issue 61 I think. I wish the writers in Archie's Sonic division would keep a better track of all the potentially great story lines that just keep flying on by. By the way (last comment), in regards to characters who got certain designs shafted, I liked the way Evil Sally was dressed in issue 24 waaaaaaay better than how she's been dressed lately, like in issue 151.
Boomer(Rotor) has been getting alot of appearances lately (usually with Tommy Turtle nearby). Of course, we haven't had any new character revelations about him but at least he's there.
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She seriously was the only girl to truly express in action and words that she had the hots for Tails, and he liked it too!
Ummm...ewwww. I sort of found that concept just awkward considering she is too old for Tails...yea that's all I'll say on that matter.
I want Monkey Kahn to return. I found his character interesting, especially since he got the best of Sonic and kidnapped Sally because he liked her...I loved that! Besides we never got a taste of how powerful he can be and it'd be interesting if he faced off against Sonic again...or even against Shadow, since him and Sonic parted on good terms...I think...
please... Tails has grown up a lot more since the series started than you might think, especially when Sonic broke it to him about his parents. The fact that he's part of Knothole's braintrust further proves it. Besides, Fiona is much older has no apparent interest in Tails as she hardly knows him (it was a robot impersonator he fell in love with in #28/29 you know). I also find it hard to believe that it would be any less awkward if he married Mina and then moved to Downunda as shown in whichever chapter of M25YL it was. I mean she's basically the same age as Sonic and she's barely ever talked to Tails (there's also the Ash factor to consider). Therefore I believe that if he's going to get into a relationship it should be with someone that will be able to share it with a connection as deep as he will. In other words, hook him back up with Barby Koala already. Besides, the DFF needs more screen time just like every other charcter already mentioned.
The fact that he's part of Knothole's braintrust further proves it.
he's as mature as tommy turtle?
I would like to see Naugus come back some time.
just not in a one-shot story but more like a 4-part arc.
i'll admit that Return of the King was My favorite Super special. Naugus was one villain that was so incredibly smart, they just don't give him enough room to show it.
i think (IMO of course) that they should have another trip around the world, just sonic and tails. because i think that that was one of the most entertaining storylines Archie has ever written.
he's as mature as tommy turtle?
psst... Krayon. In case you haven't noticed, Rotor and Uncle Chuck are on the brain trust too. And as for Tommy's maturity: He's a childhood friend of Sonic's and they are basically the same age! The fact that he is Rotor's personal assistant is no laughing matter. Besides, Tommy acted with seniority when Rotor, Bunie and Fiona were in trouble in #148. Personally, I have to side with Tails under the idea that it's frustrating that a newbie treat's him, practically a veteran, as though he were a clueless punk just because of a slight age gap.
Tails is only a member of the brain trust because he's supposed to be smart. It has nothing to do with maturity or experience or anything else. In fact, Tails for the most part seems to detest being with the group because he wants to be part of the action like Sonic. ;p
You have no idea how much maturity has to do with this. Do you honestly think brains alone is enough to have a place in a group like the brain trust? The amount of responsibility in a position like that is huge. Consider #152 for example. When Bunnie was in trouble, they still had to stay at their posts and provide the others with tactical information in order to find her. Heck, without the trust, Sonic would never have figured out how to confuse and stop the nanites. Besides, if they follow up on what Snively said in the last panel, then it will truly be up to the brain trust to figure out how to defeat Robotnik. How would you like that responsibility and not know how to handle it huh? 
No, Tails is more mature than you think, but that doesn't mean he is done growing up. And with help from those like Rotor and Uncle Chuck, he'll manage just fine. Plus it'll be even better if and when he and Barby meet up again.
Then why is Amy not part of Brain Trust if it has nothing to do with brains?
Maturity has nothing to do with being a part of the Braitn Trust. Maturity is what EVERYONE has or else they wouldn't be allowed to be in the Freedom Fighters in the first place. That is what you're not understanding. That was one of the reasons Sally eventually allowed Tails a bigger role within the group that she denied Amy.
However, maturity doesn't give you what's called your standard "wisdom that comes with age." That's the reason Tails (and to many an extent, Amy) have always been given the short end of the stick. Who would you generally trust to save your life if you knew nothing about them--an 11 year old or a 16/17 year old? The large majority (if not nearly all people) would take the teenager over the pre-teen. That's just the way life is.
Did I say brains had nothing to do with maturity? No I didn't. Yes, Tails is smart, but he still is more mature than most are willing to accept. Think about it: Tails has plenty of friends that help him out, but he's had to grow up without ever knowing his own family. I mean, his parents are in another galaxy and I'm not even sure if he remembers meeting his uncle Merlin. Why else would Sally have allowed him to go with Sonic when they traveled around Mobius looking for Naugus? Because Tails proved himself time and again that he is capable of handling pressure in tough situations. Besides, (although the story could've been far better) Athair said he was the chosen one who had the task of stopping Mammoth Mogul from destroying all reality. It takes maturity of an unimaginable level to handle a responsibility as immense as that. Sure he's had his bad points like whining about the Sea Fox when he couldn't use it, but times have changed. I think now most charcters in the comic feel deep down that they can trust Tails with their lives. As for Amy, if you haven't noticed, she only recently became an official freedom fighter within the past two years. Though both are well known, she's had far less experience than Tails, and also isn't exactly tech-savy. Plus she advanced her age with the magic from the Ring of Acorns, but that doesn't mean her maturity advanced as well. Now then... I am not a Tails fan, but somehow I got stuck defending him because of a comment I made earlier which involved him to some degree and thus lead off topic. If there is no one else who will object, I would like to return to the actual subject that I commented on a few days ago and cut this branch off before it spreads any further. Let's just move beyond Tails shall we? I would hope we are all reasonable enough people to do so?
Maturity may come with age, but I for one would rather have a sound pre-teen save me than an emotionally unstable teenager...
I don't know if you meant to, but you've basically just agreed with what I was trying to get at earlier.
Thank you Dan, for reminding me about "The Royal Signet" story. I had forgotten about it when I wrote earlier.
Hey. If Ian Potto ever comes by again, do you think you could do something with the Downuda Freedom Fighters? Ever since Roborobotnik arrived, we haven't seen too much of what damage he's caused sround the rest of Mobius. Surely somewhere out there, Crocbot still lurks, rebuilding possibly and waiting for the right time to emerge and take over the territory that used to be his. Or what about Rob O' the Hegde's home of Mercia or the Fire Kingdom where Monkey Khan used to live? Surely areas like those must be feeling pressure from Robotnik or his sub-bosses in some way. It's a good excuse to see those characters again anyway. Also, could you see if there's any way to put a stop to Ron Lim's horrid pencil work?
I believe Ian said he had plans to touch on Crocbot sometime next year..
Barby/Tails deeply disturbs me. I can understand an eleven-year old having a crush on a late teenager (how old is Fiona, anyway?), but a sixteen-year old teen having a crush on a preteen is just a world of wrong. And Archie claims they're a family friendly comic. Tsh.
My absolute last comments on the issue. 1) The real Fiona has no interest in him, he fell in love with a robot duplicate. 2)How can you find it any less comfortable for Tails to possibly marry Mina as depicted in M25YL instead of getting together with Barby when both are practically the same age as Sonic? 3) Has no one considered the possibility of Tails actually getting older than when then comic began. He was born before Robotnik took over and its been 11 years since then. Actually, it's been longer than that if anyone has paid attention to the time span discontinuity in the comic. I know someone on this forum mentioned it, has anyone else noticed? It was in relation to Sonic's birthday party. If we were to go by the corrections this person mentioned earlier, then it would not be unreasonable to place Tails between the age of 13 and 14. And now I rest my case. Anyone who comments on problems with this argument had better have some good proof to back themselves up with.
Yes, it would be unreasonable.
Tails was born in the year M3225 E14005, and it is currently M3237 E14016. There's a 12 year difference there.
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Did I say brains had nothing to do with maturity? No I didn't. Yes, Tails is smart, but he still is more mature than most are willing to accept.
You keep ignoring the point, which was re-explained below.
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Maturity may come with age, but I for one would rather have a sound pre-teen save me than an emotionally unstable teenager...
That's why I specifically said if you knew nothing about the individuals involved. There's a reason in the U.S. (or any country that allows voting) that there is an age limit. The main reason is due to maturity and the idea that when you are older that you're more knowledgeable and more mature. IF you take specific individuals that may fall flat, but when it comes to generalities, that's the way life is and that aspect has always been reflected in the comic. That's why Tommy would treat Tails the way he did in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly storyline and why it took really Mammoth Mogul stating that Tails is the "Chosen One" for him to start to get any kind of slack. It's also the reason why Amy didn't get any slack at all until "Sonic died." ;p
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2)How can you find it any less comfortable for Tails to possibly marry Mina as depicted in M25YL instead of getting together with Barby when both are practically the same age as Sonic?
That's easy. My own parents have an 8 year age difference, but they didn't get together until both were in their 20s (one younger the other older). There's a huge difference between a 28 and 20 year old getting together versus someone being 11 and 19. The first is generally more acceptable, the latter is not considered acceptable to most people.
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3) Has no one considered the possibility of Tails actually getting older than when then comic began. He was born before Robotnik took over and its been 11 years since then.
Tails IS 11 right now. Maybe you need to read more discussions at this board before you make comments like that. ;p
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Actually, it's been longer than that if anyone has paid attention to the time span discontinuity in the comic. I know someone on this forum mentioned it, has anyone else noticed? It was in relation to Sonic's birthday party. If we were to go by the corrections this person mentioned earlier, then it would not be unreasonable to place Tails between the age of 13 and 14. And now I rest my case. Anyone who comments on problems with this argument had better have some good proof to back themselves up with.
It doesn't matter what "corrections" someone wants to go with. Archie has always re-written the timeline as they see fit. So, whatever the timeline is according to them in the present is what matters.
About your little tongue sticking thing? Yeah that's real mature. 
Especially in what is supposed to be a civilized discussion. Why don't we just move beyond this Tails thing now? This subject is supposed to be about characters that we want to see make reappearances, but some people can't seem to get it out of their system. Your ideas obviously don't agree with all of mine and I respect that. That is how everyone is alike: we all think differently. However, if it somehow humanly possible, I'd like to put an end to this offshoot and get back to talking about characters we miss. Frankly this never ending debate is really starting to lose my interest and I never wanted to go in this direction in the first place.
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About your little tongue sticking thing? Yeah that's real mature. Especially in what is supposed to be a civilized discussion.
Thank you. Though what I find funny is the fact that you take it as an insult obviously. Get to know people better. ;p
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Why don't we just move beyond this Tails thing now?
You're the one still continuing it in a roundabout way. You said you made your last comment, but that doesn't mean no one is allowed to comment on what you said. It's also silly to complain about others commenting on what you say.
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This subject is supposed to be about characters that we want to see make reappearances, but some people can't seem to get it out of their system.
Welcome to this forum. 😉 The only time branching off is stopped is when it crosses into forbidden territory or it goes on for nearly 100 posts--and we're nowhere near that.
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Your ideas obviously don't agree with all of mine and I respect that. That is how everyone is alike: we all think differently.
That's fine. You're allowed to express your opinions and everyone else is allowed to express theirs. No problem here.
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However, if it somehow humanly possible, I'd like to put an end to this offshoot and get back to talking about characters we miss.
You may, others may not. It's up to the individual.
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Frankly this never ending debate is really starting to lose my interest and I never wanted to go in this direction in the first place.
**shrugs** Then don't participate. No one is forcing you to do anything.
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About your little tongue sticking thing? Yeah that's real mature.
You know, you're right. I keep saying that this comment and that comment are my last, but I end up having something else to say due to your(anyone's) responses. Sure I could stop if I really wanted to, however I find I have things that should get out to the public. And so I have this statement: I believe we have all been involved in a terrible yet hilarious misunderstanding. I was reading over your comment from yesterday afternoon especially the part about your parent's age and it suddenly dawned on me. You thought I meant that Tails and Barby should get together in a relationship the moment they see each other again didn't you? 
Oh no no no no no my friend. You see, I was picturing a relationship that slowly develops over the passing years until it reaches the point we saw in M25YL, but where Tails is married to Barby, not Mina. I'm not one to have my mind in the gutter with evry possible scenario. I guess I should've been clearer when I made my first comment. Sorry about the confusion there. Ok, I feel at peace now.
Well THAT makes more sense. A M25YL with Tails/Barby is something I'd like a whole lot.
Barby having the hots for Tails at their current age, that still worries me a bit.
Well though I too find it disturbing, just be glad Barby is a girl...o_O
No biggie. It happens. ^^
Oh, and don't worry, Torn, there's always the popular Mighty/Ray coupling so Tails should be "safe." ;p
