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(@lonewolf23)
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Just something I'd like to chime on, I think Rotor needs a makeover, badly, and preferebly back to his old look. The spectacles and bomber jacket just make him look OLD, and darnit, Rotor's not Rotor without his trademark baseball cap.

Who else do you think needs a style makeover?

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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I think that a couple of characters should shed their newer makovers and return to a more classic style. Bunnie and Rotor are examples, Locke is another.

I'd actually like to see Antonie change into something similar to what he has now but a bit less flashy.

If Tommy must stick around, then perhaps they should make him more interesting-looking.

I think the best makeover success story in recent memory would be Snively. He looks fantastic now, at least with Yardley drawing.

 
(@jerboa)
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The characters who need makeovers the absolute MOST have to be the substitute FF's; Penelope, Larry, Arlo, and Hamlin. They should be reworked totally so that they look like Sonic characters (ie, Mighty, Lightning, etc). Anyway, that's my first thought.

But I agree with Dirk about Bunnie. She needs to lose her hat/jacket and get a new hairstyle (one long braid Tomb Raider style!!) that's easier for the artists to draw.

I think Tommy looked best on the cover to #137 when Spaz drew him.

One last bit: they need to pick a design for the platypuses (platypi??). Half of the time, Bill looks like a demon.

 
(@jojo-b)
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I wish they would do something with Mighty. Perhaps making him tougher looking, although nothing very buff or hypermasculine. His design worked well during the old days, but now he needs something new to blend in with the other Chaotix.

I like what they did with him here in this fangame.

 
(@reilly85)
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Huh. I love Bunnies current look. The whole cyborg-limbs redesign she went through it was too slender, too radical a departure from the original baby got back Bunnie. The jacket helped put some weight on the character again, making her a better-balanced draw.

The hat though not big on the hat. I can understand the Indiana Jones/cowgirl kinda thing. But Bunnie was introduced way back when as a hare with a passion for hair. To me, Bunnie would be more the sort to change her hair style from month to month than to wear a hat.

Rotor: Lose the glasses at least. You didnt need them before, Boomer, and youre not old enough to be losing the eyesight just yet.

Sally: Keep the long hair. But go back to blonde. (Blondes have more fun. ;D)

Antoine: Arent you basically back in the same ol uniform again anyway?

Doc Quack: You were wounded in the line-of-duty crippled for life. Go back to walking with that cane of yours. And be grumpy. Like House on TV. Thatd be awesome.

Bean: Steal Doc Quacks eye-patch!

Im joking, of course. (Except Bunnies hat and Rotors glasses I really do dislike those.) And the thing with Doc Quacks cane thats more a consistency issue (like four fingers versus five), and Im just anal about that stuff.

Alot of the current designs - I like 'em. Growth and all that. (And I like Locke's, too. More... down-to-earth-ish? Or at least, to me, it fits better into the Sonic world. It's detailed - and as said, I'm a details dude.)

 
(@veckums)
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I like what they did with him here in this fangame.


That's not Mighty, but his evil brother. And it's too tough-looking for Mighty. He's strong, not a violent psycho, or even an aggressive type.

I'd like to see the Archie & SatAM Sonic characters look more SEGA-ish. Mina is a good example of the right direction.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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i love locke's redesign, seems to fit in nicely with how the echidnas looked in tikal's time. much more fitting then his old sleeping gown-like coat.

i'm glad they left out the guns from bunnie's holsters later on in the books. her arms can be used as a gun, she can fly and blast holes into things..why need more?
plus rotor lecture later on about how the FF never used guns made her design even more silly. i wonder if that's now why she hasn't got them any more? oo

 
(@ultra-devil-chao_1722585797)
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Nack should definatly be given a makeover. He needs a coat, like the one he used in 153. And They should finaly decide on an eyecolor, instead of alternating between blue and purple. (Light greenish-blue would look nice, or red, or brown.) The gloves, boots and hat are perfect. Or do they need changing? A tattered ear would look cool, too.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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plus rotor lecture later on about how the FF never used guns made her design even more silly.


anyone else remember Rotor having A SUPER GIGANTIC GUN OF DEATH that he shot at robotnik in like #48-#50? i forgot which issue specifically but still.

 
(@jojo-b)
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That's not Mighty, but his evil brother. And it's too tough-looking for Mighty. He's strong, not a violent psycho, or even an aggressive type.


Oh, I had actually never played the game, but the caption below the screenshot implied that it was Mighty. I didn't know the character was psychotic either. Thanks for clearing that up, though.

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anyone else remember Rotor having A SUPER GIGANTIC GUN OF DEATH that he shot at robotnik in like #48-#50? i forgot which issue specifically but still.


Was that the small gun that could turn into that giant "Mama" something gun?

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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Big Bad Mamma Jamma. ;)

Seriously.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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anyone else remember Rotor having A SUPER GIGANTIC GUN OF DEATH that he shot at robotnik in like #48-#50? i forgot which issue specifically but still.


my collection doesn't go that far back, so i guess it was a writers error with the whole gun thing??

 
(@neoremington373)
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i love locke's redesign, seems to fit in nicely with how the echidnas looked in tikal's time. much more fitting then his old sleeping gown-like coat.


FINALLY! Someone else besides me who likes Locke's current outfit design.

As for redesign, I currently want Fiona's outfit changed. There's something about that crappy swimsuit body form she wears that looks absolutely atrocious.

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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I like WB's outfit for Fiona that was shown in SONIC #134.

 
(@miss-puar)
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I think Rote needs to go back to wearing the toolbelt and ball cap- it just looked "right" with him. He's also one of several characters who need a CONSISTENT eye color. Personally I liked drawing him with brown eyes (like he had in Season 2 of SatAM) because most of the Archie cast has blue or green eyes and that gets a little tiresome.
And since some have asked: Rote's gun was from STH #44- the issue with AntiKnuckles (faith and begorrah!)

Rotor at his NRA meeting

 
(@ultra-devil-chao_1722585797)
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one of several characters who need a CONSISTENT eye color. Personally I liked drawing him with brown eyes (like he had in Season 2 of SatAM) because most of the Archie cast has blue or green eyes and that gets a little tiresome.


Who are the others? Well, I know Nack is one...

 
(@miss-puar)
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Others with varying eye color: Ash (blue/purple), Rouge (blue/green), Vector (blue/red), Espio (blue/yellow), Lien-Da (blue/purple), Locke (blue/purple), Julie-Su (blue/purple), Lupe (blue/green), Doc Quack (blue/green), Sir Charles (blue/green), Hershey (blue/green).
There's probly more but I don't feel like rooting through my collection any further.
Back on topic: anyone else miss Bernie's lavender fur? Made her stand out more next to the other hedgies iffen you ask me.

 
(@soniathehedgehog)
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I don't think they need a makeover, but I would like to see more of Geoffrey St John and Hershey.

 
(@jojo-b)
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Back on topic: anyone else miss Bernie's lavender fur? Made her stand out more next to the other hedgies iffen you ask me.


Yeah, they should have never threw it out. Ken seems to be including it in his idea for the movie. IMO, it made her look less like a female Sonic. Plus, Mobius needs more diversity than just blue hedgehogs. I know we have Amy and Shadow, etc.

 
(@crazy-cham-lea_1722585730)
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Back on topic: anyone else miss Bernie's lavender fur? Made her stand out more next to the other hedgies iffen you ask me.


What about what happened with Gala-Na? Eesh...

 
(@hypershadow77)
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Ken seems to be including it in his idea for the movie.


i'm sorry but even if he was a writer on STH they still won't let him do that.

 
(@chronos-cat)
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I'm another who likes Locke's current look.

I think most of the redesigns have been for the better, with Fiona being a glaring exeption.

I like the idea of Bunnie loosing the hat and changing hairstyles - heck, so long as multiple artists weren't working on stories set on the same day, they could all choose their favorite hairstyles, so she just changes it a lot. I want her to keep the jacket, though - I really like it (though a different style jacket would be okay).

I'm not thrilled with Rotor's current look, but I was never a big fan of any of his previous looks, either. If I were redesigning him, I'd give him both his tool belt and his jacket - the tool belt is useful, and I just think jackets look cool...

Can't think of too many others that need a makeover... Mighty is looking a bit plain these days, but I'm not sure what could be done to spruce him up. (Maybe he should have a jacket, too? :^^ )

Oh, and I've always felt Jules and Bernie's robot forms looked lame. Since he has no hope of being deroboticized, maybe Jules should have his body redesigned? (Especially his face - I thought it looked quite silly the first time I saw it, and the only reason it doesn't bug me any more is because I've gotten used to it..)

 
(@jojo-b)
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The hairstyle thing for Bunnie wouldn't surprise me considering she wanted to persue a career as a hairstylist.

I'm sure if Mighty carried around some kind of accessory that suited his character he would fit in with the other Chaotix (ex. Charmy has his jacket, Vector has headphones, Espio wears spiked bracelets and bandages).

 
(@post-grant)
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Ken's idea for a movie makes me laugh.

Rotor also lost his gigantic gun in issue 48 when Robotnik invaded Knothole and blew it to bits.

And no, a Sonic character with a gun wasn't due to a mistake on the writers part, since it was fantasy based, not realistic.

Personally, I love how Bunnie's a little shorter and rounder. Tracy draws her well. Almost old school.

Sally's hair needs to be shorter and her face a bit more old schooly, but Tracy's said he's working on her.

 
(@crazy-cham-lea_1722585730)
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Rotor also lost his gigantic gun in issue 48 when Robotnik invaded Knothole and blew it to bits.

And no, a Sonic character with a gun wasn't due to a mistake on the writers part, since it was fantasy based, not realistic.


Sorry, but I think you've missed the point. The problem was that the comic had Rotor state that Freedom Fighters never ever use guns - despite that Bunnie had been visually carring a pair and that Rotor himself had both built and used a giant monstrous gun. Being fantasy-based doesn't account for a direct contradiction.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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I think that Archie really needed to make over Bark - badly. Red is used so many times - Shadow, Super Sonic, Metal Sonic, Other robots - Need I say more? :ohbrother Bean was ok they could of used ice blue for Bark eye's. And whers His Pony Tail At For God Sake? And His Voice? Why are missing? :( don't make bark hot, for the love of sega! the eyes will make him melt!

 
(@miss-puar)
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Polar bears should never be hot. It's just not their way. But Bark can chill all he wants, sonic candy.
On a more serious note, don't request full-issue scans here. It's illegal and you could get in trouble. But since I'm in a good mood I'll hook you up with 2 Birthday Bash scans! (Wow, 2... such generosity)
OH LOOK! SHINY!
Eggman- Candid Camera

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Sorry to sounds like I'm joining the herd, but definitely Rotor.

I got a real shock seeing him in 134 - if I hadn't already known about Rotor's family, I'd have sworn that his grandfather'd shown up and settled in Knothole whilst Sonic was away.

I just don't see what a redesign was supposed to achieve in his case.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Crap! for got a bout that that. Thanks for reminding me, Missy. 'Bean? go sit with Bark.' 'aww...' :lol . I can't belive Bark listened to her! Also, I mis typed my post - I was suppose to type 'don't make him hot' because the eyes was red and he need to chill with ice blue. Polar bears will melt with red eyes. ;.; and Rotor look old with all that stuff on.

 
(@lonewolf23)
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Looking at Bean and Bark in #160, I keep imagining them doing a "Jay and Silent Bob" routine...

 
(@sonic-candy)
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After going under Wiki.,I 100% agree with ya Lone. edit: Another cherather who need to have makeover is Sonic. Need I say more?

 
(@spiner-storm)
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To be honest, I like the changes given to some of the members of the cast. But, there could be changes amongst them, ya know?

Rotor: All that would make me happy was if he lost the glasses and replaced them with his old school yellow cap.

Antoine: If it wasn't 'Patch', and he actually had that scar over his eye, 'coz that was cool.

Fiona: Please, for the love of God, please, lose the tight suit. It doesn't work for her.

Tommy: Completely naked furre. How original. He needs at least some form of clothing, to make him not so bland.

As for the main list, they're as good as they are, no changes shouldn't need to be made. Sonic, Knuckles, Tails and Shadow should have to stay the way the are, for the sake of the games.

The secondary characters could go with a little bit of tweaking though, brighten them up a bit for the comic, that is if most of them ever appear again.

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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www.deviantart.com/deviation/20822867/

I drew this in the hopes that someone from Archie Comics would see it. If it does'nt happen soon, I will cry bitter tears.

 
(@recklessjr)
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I REALLY like bunnies new look rotor is so-so fiona could use a lil costume surgury other then that i have no complaints.

 
(@tigergirl-soldier_1722585687)
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OMG, does anybody remember back around the 90s issues where Bunnie walked around in daisyduke shorts and wore that gaudy polkadot tanktop. That was AWEFUL and way too steotypical of "southern" style. I'd MUCH rather see her the way she is now than that EVER AGAIN!

I'm okay with her look now, but I'm not a big fan of the hat or jacket. However, I am totally undecided if I like her better with a short cut or a medium one. I agree with Herms though! Give that girl some CURVES!

LMAO! I'm also 100% for Tommy the Ninja Turtle!!!

I wanna see Sally with her short hair again. Long hair just doesn't suit her. At least put it up in something an make it pretty? How is she suppose to fight with all that hair in the way? I'd say give her a fancy ponytail and that might fix the problem. I'd really love to see Sally back in action BTW.

I'm also for Rotor getting a remodel job. It's just not the same...He just needs to dress HIS AGE!

And just because I can I'd really love to see Cyborg Dimitri in flesh and blood again. ;__;

I had the strangest idea for Julie-Su, too. I always imagined that she'd look really sexy in something white for a change. Maybe wear that color if there's ever another story where she goes out on a date with Knuckles. Might try to draw that later...<3

I'm STRONGLY for simplicity!!! As an animator they teach us that you do not need details to make a character interesting. As long as there are good gestures and storytelling you don't need all that stuff.

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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"LMAO! I'm also 100% for Tommy the Ninja Turtle!!!"

Glad ya liked it XD

Anyway, as far as character designs go... I really just want simplistic Sonic-ish designs. The whole change thing they've gone through in the comic is to appeal to the kids of the here and now, so I don't really expect the designs to change, since kids eat that stuff up.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Sonic Been in on/off, love tringales and all the good stuff. (I know that SOME of it was evil sonic doing,but still...) Sonic is the hero of mobius (earth) WHATEVER planet he's on NOT A PIMP! Therfor, Sonic need a makeover more thean everyone, IMO.

 
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Sonic is the hero of mobius (earth) WHATEVER planet he's on NOT A PIMP! Therfor, Sonic need a makeover more thean everyone, IMO.


Um, I can't seem to recall when Sonic sported a wide-brimmed purple hat with zebra-print hatband and giant green feather. How does Sonic's current visual look make him a pimp? Sure, he's half naked, but so's a good part of the cast in general.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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Sure, he's MOSTLY naked


to quote shadow hog....fixed.

i liked the sketches that someone did in the comic of sonic wearing a jacket, i'm pretty sure it was spaz it was supposed to be an alternate reality thing. (not evil sonic)

i'll have to dig up the issue.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Crazy,Whean I ment by 'pimp' I ment someone that kiss alot of girls or flirt with girls whean he already have a girl. Some times it's best to ingore me. (Im young and have no clue what Im saying Half The Time) (it's 12 something inthe moreing so sorry if my typeing is bad. Good Night.)

 
(@crazy-cham-lea_1722585730)
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So? We're talking about visual designs. The way they look, not the way they act. Even then Mina kissing him (not vice-versa) once doesn't make him a pimp. Of course, going further would probably put this in the realm of relationship-talk.

 
(@the-magical-dreamer_1722585844)
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It's been bothering me in the back of my mind...Mighty the Armadillo really does need a redesign but what could we give him that hasn't been given to another character? So I finally came up with a solution: Give him Pants. That's right! Knuckles and Sonic are going to look at Mighty and be like, "Hey, that's a great idea! I wonder why I never considered putting a garment over my genitals before?" I might try to draw my idea for Mighty's re-design someday.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Pants? Oo Um, That sounds...interesting.

 
(@jojo-b)
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What would pants do to improve his character? I would think it would only drift him further away from the SegaSonic cast.

 
(@the-magical-dreamer_1722585844)
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A makeover is something that usually only changes superficial appearances -- like the clothes a person wears, how they wear their hair, make-up, etc. So, no, it won't actually make his character any better -- just more stylish.

Although...Hmm...I guess giving Mighty pants would give him a sense of decency. That's kind of like character growth. There could be a whole story arc leading up to Mighty's new pants!

Edit: Here is the picture my mind dreamed up.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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the Almighty trousers of Mighty!

..sence of decency? half the characters only wear shoes and gloves. ^^;

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Dreamer, that picture of Mighty has raised you so many notches because that pic of Mighty is awesome. :3

 
(@tornadot)
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Mighty doesn't need pants...though he could use some type of body armor or bulletproof vest...something that would give the impression that this guy is tough and a literal tank.

It wouldn't be a makeover per se but I liked Mina's original outfit better...or perhaps we can see her don that Chinese dress a few more times...

 
(@the-magical-dreamer_1722585844)
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Sorry to it took me twenty years to reply but I'm glad that you enjoyed Mighty's pants. : D

 
(@cloverporcupine)
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Yeah, I like lockes new look too:) He looks how a guardian should be,tough!Not sleeping on the job!XD
I think amy rose should switch to her older outfit,she needs color contrast.><; I wonder why I hate pink...
And fiona fox needs to loose that suit thing she's wearing too, make it a two parter instead of a full piece.
Anyways,that's it for me!:crazy :cackle

 
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