Fiona has come a very long way. Her first appearance was way back in issue #28-29, though that was a robot. One of the characters to go from good to bad, along with the same thing with sleuth.

Well with Scourge in jail (?) Hopefully they won't forget about her. I'd love to see her as some kinda of anti-hero, maybe not quite knowing what exactly she wants to do right now. Hopefully eventually she'll come back & join the freedom fighters again. But with her betraying the team i can see a few issues dealing with her having to re-gain thier trust.

Broadly, I agree with your ideas there. I've been saying similar things myself for a while. I'm not sure I'd like her to turn fully back to the good side again, though - at least not for a long time. The comic has too few female villains (none of whom have the added hook of having been very close to Sonic) and Fiona has far too much past and too many issues to make the switch back simple. I'd like to see those shades of grey really played with whilst she figures herself out.

But however she gets 'round to it, the one thing I'd really like to see the plot threads regarding the fact that Fiona was actually angling to stay with Sonic in #165 and her issues with Sally's jealous harpy mode (I pitched the abridged hypothesis to Ian here and he confirmed it) explored. That's an awfully big other shoe to have waiting to drop - as well as potentially good character development for her, Sally and maybe even Sonic.

Nope. It's going to take a Death Equals Redemption before Fiona's defection could be forgiven in in the eyes of the Freedom Fighters. But then people will lambast Ian for killing off another character instead of doing anything worthwhile with her, especially one that is a supposed fan favorite merely because her robotic duplicate tried to seduce the naive sidekick... so villain she should stay for the foreseeable future.

She's a Neutral Evil who's got a bone to pick with the Neutral Good Sonic, and I want to see where that can take her.

I was already editing my post as you were posting, Psx.

Although my interest isn't the fact that her robot duplicate gives her a coupledom fandom - I just like moral shades of grey and characters complex enough to think about. The fact that she's my favourite species is a bigger perk than the auto-automaton.

Alot of people I've talked actually dispise Fiona because of her betrayal, but the way i see it, it's called character development. Also, as much as i like Scourge as a character I see him as a user, only caring about people (her) when things are going his way & know he would drop her or possibly even abuse her when things go wrong blaming her for his failure. Anyway i'd love to see her team up with Nic again maybe & have some adventures or something together. SU is used for "lesser" characters right? how bout a mini-arc about them?

I didn't feel like repeating myself, so I've gone back through my old posts and dug out some of my existing Fiona thoughts (1, 2 and my next two posts in the thread, 3). Let me know what you think.

Hopefully we'll hear something about her whereabouts once the ID saga is wrapped up (Next fall perhaps?)

Part of me kind of wished the rest of the FF and mainly Sally had been called out for their treatment of her but that's such a far fetched idea, I know it'd have no hope of coming to pass.

Well dont forget that she wasnt exactly too "out in the open" & only when bark & bean showed did they actually find out about her past somewhat. Maybe if she would have told them from the begining about everything they might have treated her differently. I understand shes not very trusting of people but when your on a team you need to learn you can trust each & every one.

Let's see ...

... I feel like Fiona was / is in the same situation as Shadow the Hedgehog. She's a character that was introduced a long time ago in a story that had a beginning, a climax, and an ending. Problem was the fanbase didn't really like the ending that Fiona was given. The writers came to recognize this and decided to bring the character back.

Fiona abruptly (and kind of awkwardly) came back into the main comics after a writer (probably Penders) confirmed she was still alive and not robotized like she probably should have been after living in a Robotnik concentration camp for so long. So Fiona was just on the Freedom Fighters during a time where a lot of characters just came together in a disorganized fashion. I guess she was supposed to replace Sally since she had her hissy-fit and decided to Rage Quit the Freedom Fighters for a while but she never really found her place in the Team. Where everyone before her had a specific job on the Team she just drifted from place doing whatever was needed for her. I think she was supposed to be a field medic but no one got hurt enough to capitalize on that.

So Fiona didn't really make it as a Freedom Fighter. I don't think she would even if they put her back on the Team. So what would you do with a character like that? Make her a villainess. Yeah. That works. The evil Hench-Witch. As the evil Hench-Witch she became more likable because she stuck out more. It works because there's less competition as a female Villain where most female villains were either dead, MIA, or too low tier to be recognized then the female Hero side where there were three other females on the Knothole Freedom Fighters alone.

To put it simply Fiona was one of those popular characters who seemed to just stay around because her fans want her around. The writers couldn't find a good use for her so they just refurbished her for whatever role they needed and shipped her off when she outlived her usefulness. There are characters there that can do her job (and more) better, mainly Rouge, who incidentally had almost a carbon copy of her " dark past ". The difference is that Rouge got drafted to a more forgiving (more like uncaring) Team then Fiona did.

Part of me kind of wished the rest of the FF and mainly Sally had been called out for their treatment of her but that's such a far fetched idea, I know it'd have no hope of coming to pass.

Sonic's the only one who cares enough about Fiona to call them out on something like that. Since Fiona burned him pretty badly we can't be too sure he'll be willing to come to her defense. Fiona herself probably doesn't care what they think about her at this point, either.

Well with Scourge out of the picture right now & the SS most likely not wanting anything to do with her, that kinda leaves her in limbo for a while. As much as i love her she's no match for the FF's by herself. Maybe they can team her up with Bark, Bean & Nic (who, btw we have'nt seen in how many issues)? I'd can see her leading a team of bounty hunters or something..my ideas probably suck 😛 but i'm thinking of things on the fly here

To put it simply Fiona was one of those popular characters who seemed to just stay around because her fans want her around.

I'd query that, actually, given the time elapsed between her appearances.

She was a throwaway character in #28-29 - literally. I remember a lot of people being quite shocked when the real thing popped up in the KTE backups as seemingly nothing more than a device to help crowbar Ray into the cast, and promptly vanished again until #125.

It was only when Karl Bollers had the idea of making her Bunnie's flatmate and Sonic's unrequited crush that we started seeing her as a regular fixture, and Ian seemed to simply do a 180 degree turn on that for much the same reason that Karl used her in the first place: why create a new character when there's already one lying around who hasn't been overly fleshed out? It did feel rather as though Fi was tinkered with for no other reason than to provide an extra female antagonist with no particular portfolio, and I freely admit that if Ian doesn't make good on the psychology and past that he's been laying, I'll possibly class turning Karl's groundwork around as a waste.

Maybe I've just been in the wrong places, but she only seemed to pick up a fanbase when it became apparent that she wasn't just going to disappear again for another five years.

Tis kind of a shame though, the idea of a character and concept being introduced as a fake (robo-Fiona) before we even know anything about the real one is a rather cool little story idea and it is painfully under-utilized in all versions I have seen the card played. At least with Archie here we have the lasting impact on Tails' crush on the fake Fiona.

The biggest comparrison I can draw is Mad-Eye Moody from the Harry Potter franchise. Given that the character we knew during Book 4 was an imposter (I'm calling a "it's been several years" anti-spoiler notice on this. Anyone who should know already knows by now) and the real one waltzes into Book 5 with barely a throwaway line for the switch, it really was a wasted opportunity.

So, yay for Archie writers for taking an intriguing principal and using it.

The way I see it Fiona fox is probably going to appear in the next arc with Scourge in it, or some side story leading up to it. Probably busting him out of jail, unless she's stuck in jail herself (just where did she go after that last arc, anyway? ). If she decides to leave scourge, I'm hoping that her prior relationship status can get explained anyway. It confused me.

I dont understand that myself, after the fight with Scourge she just..disapeared. No clue as to where she went, if she got caught or escaped or anything.

At least with Archie here we have the lasting impact on Tails' crush on the fake Fiona.

I know that the plot point was " resolved " and all but I wonder if it'll ever be mentioned again. Like if his experiences with Fiona will have some sort of impact on whatever he decides to pursue in the future. It seems like too good of a deal for some writer not to capitalize on it.

I'm hoping that her prior relationship status can get explained anyway. It confused me.

Hm?

When Scourge did his business around Knothole (posing as Sonic) he flirted with / dated Fiona along with Amy, Bunnie, Mina, and who knows who else. Fiona knew it wasn't the real Sonic all along but liked him anyway. When Sonic and Scourge switched again she started dating Sonic hoping that he'd have some of the same attributes as Scourge but he disappointed her. After Scourge showed back up (post-Transformation) she started looking for Scourge again and they dated behind Sonic's back. When she was outed for dating Scourge by Tails she left the Freedom Fighters (presumably) for good.

As for her suddenly leaving ... Fiona having been scorned by so many people in her lifetime even before she became a criminal didn't really have much faith in other mobians. She believed that only the strongest survive and that petty feelings like love, devotion, and loyalty make a person weak. As a result she didn't really get close to the people that she met. She didn't really make friends though many mobians have come to view her as a friend: Bean and Bark on one side and Sonic and Tails for a while on the other.

Fiona was attracted to Scourge on more of a physical level then on an emotional level ... at least in the beginning. It was vaguely hinted at on both sides that they may have developed more genuine feelings towards one another over the course of the arch but since that conflicted with their own personal vision they decided not to pursue it. At least for now.

It'll be a long time before that's even a thought to be addressed, though.

No clue as to where she went, if she got caught or escaped or anything.

The Freedom Fighters (mainly Sonic) let her escape because were more concerned with beating Scourge then catching his lackeys. In hindsight they probably should address that flaw in policy. If they just arrested Snively and Eggman immediately after Eggman's defeat this whole Iron Dominion business wouldn't have happened.

Ah well. You live and you learn.

Hm?

When Scourge did his business around Knothole (posing as Sonic) he flirted with / dated Fiona along with Amy, Bunnie, Mina, and who knows who else. Fiona knew it wasn't the real Sonic all along but liked him anyway. When Sonic and Scourge switched again she started dating Sonic hoping that he'd have some of the same attributes as Scourge but he disappointed her. After Scourge showed back up (post-Transformation) she started looking for Scourge again and they dated behind Sonic's back. When she was outed for dating Scourge by Tails she left the Freedom Fighters (presumably) for good.

Yes, yes, yes. I get that. What confused me was that Fiona started out with this whole grudge against Sonic for abandoning her. It was an accident on Sonic's part but Fiona saw him as some bad person until the Xorda (I think it was at that point she figured different). But if her problem was seeing Sonic as the bad guy why date a guy who basically IS Sonic as a bad guy? I have my own theories, but...

Aye. Chicks. I am one, and I still don't get them.

The Freedom Fighters (mainly Sonic) let her escape because were more concerned with beating Scourge then catching his lackeys. In hindsight they probably should address that flaw in policy. If they just arrested Snively and Eggman immediately after Eggman's defeat this whole Iron Dominion business wouldn't have happened.

Ah well. You live and you learn.

Heroes delibertly made dumb for a moment so a convienient plot device can be put in (read: melodramtic moment). Happens all the time in show biz.

Lil Susy941 wrote:Yes, yes, yes. I get that. What confused me was that Fiona started out with this whole grudge against Sonic for abandoning her. It was an accident on Sonic's part but Fiona saw him as some bad person until the Xorda (I think it was at that point she figured different). But if her problem was seeing Sonic as the bad guy why date a guy who basically IS Sonic as a bad guy? I have my own theories, but...

There's a difference in terms of "bad" here. Scourge is villainous, a "for the evulz" kind of guy. She never saw Sonic like that; her issue with him was a matter of unfairly blaming him (and Mighty) for not being able to rescue her, which lead to her suffering.

It isn't about morals, it's about how she felt she was personally screwed over by him.

So she starts dating a Sonic that would not only leave her in the dust but punch her in the face as he leaves?

So she starts dating a Sonic that would not only leave her in the dust but punch her in the face as he leaves?

Except... that never happened.

Except... that never happened.

Okay, granted. But I can hardly see him being above leaving someone he's teamed up with to fend for themselves.

It's like, Sonic's a guy who looks out for people's best interest. He'll do whatever to make sure people are safe. In contrast, being his opposite, Scourge would be a guy who'd do what it takes to hurt a person.

Yeah, but Fiona didn't go with Scourge because he thought he was a better person; she just thought he was more fun. Remember, she got really upset when Sonic suggested there might be more to it. Her rationale for her feelings isn't perfect; that's the point.

Yeah, but Fiona didn't go with Scourge because he thought he was a better person; she just thought he was more fun. Remember, she got really upset when Sonic suggested there might be more to it. Her rationale for her feelings isn't perfect; that's the point

Oh.

Greetings. Accessing Files on "Fiona Fox".

Contention 1: Discourse Avoids all Nominalism. Instead sticking directly to the Consequentialism the Authors favor, creating a lobotimized form of Utilitarianism. You must Accept that the Writer's have had completely different agendas, creating a residual efficacy equal to the Grand-Slam "End-Game". Thus you must accept that these writers have created Multiple Fionas. There is a massive Timeframe error that must be addressed between StH #165 and KtE #27. Also the Error between "Human" Predication, this is can not be negligible. 5-Digit "Humans" did not Exist Until AFTER StH # 80. Meaning the Entire Flynn Backstory is Non-Canon. You are also neglecting a very Important page in StH #194. Sonic is Encountered by Fiona Fox. This causality may be the Reason why Fiona has Retreated, to further imbue her doubt and abandon. The Shallowest emotion is Toughness, which is the ruse Fiona is attempting to live behind. A refuge where She can keep away from any responsibility. There is another problem that needs to be Addressed. Fiona claims to be The First to notice that this *Pre-Scourge* was NOT Sonic. This fallacy is that a character that does not even know Sonic too well in the first place can claim to be dealing with the psychoanalytical distinctions between Sonic and Anti-Sonic. Instead of, Perhaps, ANY OTHER CHARACTER. this would make more sense, or perhaps it's her looking out for Numero Uno, we don't get anything except the stuttering StH #155.

Contention 2: Desireabiltiy. *Fiona*'s first appearance was StH #28 and #29. She Reappeared suddenly in StH #125 and Gained a SOLID Role as a Field Medic. Allegedly she was brought up to the queue as a Neutral-Evil Character to balance the Female Block on the Mid-Level. We have seen time and time again Bounty Hunters *Neutral-Neutal Allignment* constantly tools of Evil. So really there's no shortage to complain about. But Ian seems to have created New Characters with what he calls *Purpose*. Sonic's Current cast MUST undergo a severe cutback if it is to have any Legitimate plot with DIRECT clash.

Contention 3: Fiona - Scourge Relationships. Scourge is a misogynist. Fiona's relationship reminds me a lot of a 70's song "Sweet Dreams" By Eurythmics. Scourge is Fiona's Refuge because he demonstrates the same character weakness. Scourge has Hit Fiona a few times to vent his Anger and to show the S.S. (Not Kaltenbrunner's) to "respect". Ian also makes a problem with the Mistrust factor here. He draws more empirical examples without actually establishing them. This is not writing, it's improv storytelling and his current arcs prove. This is a slippery "ACTION PACKED" Slope that is Self Destructive.

If you wanted my Opinion on Fiona Fox, (Assumed *SQ*) . She is deplorable for whatever Flynn decides qualifies as Backstory. Her character is a lot more ethereal than a lot of others, leaving an impressing mark on the reader but something to be desired simultaneously. Tails made a miscalculation so out of character. Some can argue that this is completely In character for him, but Sega/Archie/Fans Can't have Tails both ways when they can't even identify a singular emotional stance. Tails is one of the easiest characters to Crush in my opinion because of his massive character flaws, Fiona Fox is a good example of exactly how. That was even introduced in her conception. Fiona Fox was a perfect example of a Self-Serving writer's fantasy. Only someone so deranged could have possibly folded and bent established IN-CANON precedents so totally. Fiona is a Wasted Character, Probably just as In-Limbo as Dimitri. Proven, Ian Can't write Family-Moral-Soft-Tender even if he was paid to, StH 178/179 proves. There was no Build up, the climax sucked, no Reason why That happened at ALL. But I must congratulate him, He's there, and I'm here. I could try to Write and If I'm half of what I'm Claiming to be perhaps I could write for Characters like Fiona. All of this Action is making me sick though, *ALL ON SONIC!!!!* approach is kinda destroying it. In StH 14, Tails was an Excellent example of the Old School way the Freedom fighters used to Play ball with Robotnik. Using Cunning strategy and Intelligence. The ONLY Time this Action should Ever be justified was laid out in the fight against the Giant Borg. When It was a One-Chance. Then the Comic fell into a Mystic Reverie that I detest with my Fiber.

The Last Part was my two pieces on Ian Flynn. I Concede:
1) Fiona Should've been Revived.
2) This was due to the Couple Fandom.
3) Tails was and Always will have a Terrible Emotional Definition.
4) Fiona's Slap was totally Necessary but for the sake of my Sadism I hope that there still might be more.
5) Fiona will now probably be used as a McGuffin to churn out another Arc.
6) Fiona will probably be up on the Roulette to be Axed.
7) Fiona and Scourge are ultimately incompatible.
8) Fiona's Backstory is Hogwash.

There is my First Post.

I Know it isn't chronological but This is still a Broader sense. All material Is (C) Archie/Sega?
Fiona's Last Appearance.

Most applicable resources. Fiona has become quite a subject.

5th last picture makes Sonic look like he's wearing coke bottle glasses