To me, this just seems a very long-winded way to complain about the ban on relationship talk.

*prods with her spork* the rules are made for a reason, bring it up in EVC if you feel you have a case against it.

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A Reponse.

Firstly, just because the constitution allows you to speak your mind, it does not mean that (1) it's always a good idea to speak your mind, or (2) the MoFo has to let you say whatever you want. The MoFo is a membership-based community, and as such it has the right to impose certain rules. Don't like it? Plenty of other places to go.

Secondly, your opinion that without romantic relationships there would be no book is completely inaccurate. There are other relationships such as the parental relationships (as we've seen with Sonic and his father as well as Antoine and his father recently) and of course there's friends and enemies.

Thirdly, allow me to point out [Cleanliness Edit]

Fourthly, I think you take the book and people's reactions to it FAR too seriously.

Fifthly, it seems to me that these videos are a way of dodging the relationship embargo. But the topic of the videos is your views on the relationship of Sonic and Sally. Which means that, despite the fact that those views are not presented in the text of your post, this topic is about relationships. If not, then what is it about?

Can you record at a higher volume? It is very tough for me to hear what your saying at times. So I'm sorry if I misunderstood somethings.
I don't know about other MoFoers but I never felt/said that any relationship "kills the comic". The problem seems that it is very difficult to talk about romance on forums w/out turning into pairing wars. These debates can get very intense, sometimes all other points in a topic will be dropped just so folks can argue over who gets the 'hog/echidna/whatever. Immaturity and agresiveness tactics were reasons relationship discusions were banned here, it wasn't that forumers belive romance made for a poorer comic.
I'm not saying you hafta leave this forum or stop liking your favrite couples, but the MoFo just isn't the place to talk about them. Instead focus on something else that draw you into the comics (the changing art or writing styles, how characters grew over the years- ex. Tails miniseries lead him to become less of a team mascot and more a capable sidekick) and you'll get less flack.

As someone who was part of the problem in the first place, I think the ban on relationship talk on this board does more good than harm. I mean, seriously, it's been over three years, if not four. But people still talk about it, still hate over it. Is it REALLY that important?

Personally for me, it's over and done with - obviously, I'm a Sonic/Sally fan and I can't see Sonic in any other love relationship for a variety of reasons (though I certainly question Sally's sanity at the moment), but I've gone beyond the "Im rite yore rong lololz returd Ima find yoo beetch right fiftee pagez of nadah" stage that the discussion ended up becoming in 2002-2004, where people literally targeted writers, artists and Sonic/Sally fans for a hate campaign. Indeed, the MoFo, me, TR, the Archie writers and artists, and the entire SHQ/Artail affiliation (along with other big boards) were apparently part of a giant worldwide "conspiracy" to "destroy" Mina/Sonic forever.

This was before - and especially after - the enforced ban. The difference was, after the ban was enforced, those who violated it repeatedly in the past, those who were able to break the rules with ease because of the rules' general laxity, were finally banned and thus had to take their acid to other, smaller venues, thus lessening the tense hatred on the board and in the fandom.

Unfortunately, as I've evidenced myself, even after three years, there are some people who just can't let go of something, and that's one of the reasons why the ban is still here. We still have people arguing with the writer(s) (the writer now being Ian) on forums and in chat, saying that the Archie writers are wrong, their view is right, that Mina/Sonic is THE relationship of the comic book and that any other talk is heresy. Ash is an abusive jerk who clearly beats Mina, Mina is only ever happy with Sonic, Sally needs to die, when is Sonic and Mina finally going to confirm their love for each other, etc. etc.

So yeah, the relationship ban is up for a good reason. Yeah, the forum's not as heated as it was before, but now with Sonic/Fiona/Tails, it's better to prevent another firestorm before the match is lit, ne? 🙂

I really hope the next post you make utilizes the board's ability to display text, BW. After all the constant warnings for dropping links to videos and skipping off merrily, you're getting banned the next time you do it. #<<#

Dirk, I feel the third point that you made comes uncomfortably close to the relationship embargo. As much as I agree that bw's videos are a possible way to bypass the embargo, I feel that the last thing we need is more kerosene on this particular smouldering bonfire. Let's just agree that, as Acrio said:

1) The general embargo on the discussion of relationships stands.
2) Posting of videos in place of text despite repeated warnings is grounds for a ban.

If you are still unhappy with my censoring of your post, Dirk, please discuss it with me in chat or something.

Quite right. The defense has no objections at this time, your honor.

I aplozige then, but there has to be a way to discuss things like this without going off the edge.

Again I truly deeply apolizge.

There is no good way to talk about the sexual cravings of small talking furry animals.

~Rico

LMAO. I won't comment besides LMAO, but thank you Rico.

The way to do that is to discuss it away from this board. Situation remedied.