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(@dragonash)
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1) Kintobor becomes a permanant ally
2) Rob O' the Hedge returns, becomes spy like St. John
3) A story featuring all the hedgehogs joining forces to accomplish something
4) Shadow joining the Chaotix
5) Eggman regaining his position as Number One Villain
6) The return of Robotization ( Let's face it, Mecha Madness was the shizzle )
7) Bring Back Tommy Turtle! (7 is a lie)
An update on the Downunda FF's and Monkey Khan

Feel free to add anything you hope to see!

 
(@the-magical-dreamer_1722585844)
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I'm really at a loss for what Ian could do for #200. Since he came aboard as a writer all of Sonic's major villians have had a pretty strong showcase. Scourge was born; A.D.A.M was wiped out; Mogul and Ixis Nagus were released; Eggman destroyed Knothole village; Enerjak returned; Mammoth Mogul fought with his brain; Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts returned; The Anti-Freedom Fighters tried to invade Mobious -- And the destructix were in just about every arc. About the only major threat Sonich hasn't gone against yet is Blackdoom, Eggman Nega, The Battlebird Armada, and Ibliss. Or maybe something from Chronicles. I guess the Xorda could return again, too.

Or maybe we'll all be surprised and there isn't violence in #200 and everybody has a real super day.

 
(@enerjak-the-3rd)
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Personally, I think that issue #200 should feature the end or beginning of a major arc with the Black Arms coming back to Mobius at last. Let's face it: Mogul has sworn off direct combat with Sonic and co., the Destructix and Badniks have failed for the umpteenth time, Enerjak has ceased to exist again and likely for good, Dr. Finitevus is in hiding, Ixis Naugus is little more than an animal no doubt lurking somewhere around Mogul's new digs, A.D.A.M. has been blown up (of course, he could always be like any other A.I. and come back), Scourge has rejoined the Anti-Freedom Fighters and proclaimed himself a king, there is now a Metal Scourge (shudder), and the Dark Legion and Eggman have teamed up; the comics need a fresh infusion of decent villainy. I would also like to see a few characters from the games show up, such as Silver, E-123 Omega, or some other decent guys.

At the top of my hopes for the buildup are Sonic and Sally becoming a couple again, Knuckles finally getting off his guilt trip, Max ceasing to be a jerk or dying (whichever comes first), and maybe even Jules getting turned back into a real Mobian. A lot of this stuff probably won't happen, but hey, I can dream.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Sonic and Sally becoming a couple again

=O

 
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(@_dc_)
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For non-romantic things, for #200 I just want a good story although no unpleasant surprises(like Sally being killed off). I think Max will die at some point; maybe not in issue #200 or in the near future but eventually. He doesn't have much to do now.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Here's looking for a feel-good 200th issue!

 
(@matt7325)
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Well at least it's guaranteed to be better than #100.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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And #150...

 
(@hypershadow77)
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well at the very least, it couldn't be much worse than #100, nothing like the style of ron lim to kill a would be momentous event

 
(@gammarallyson)
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Sonic and Sally becoming a couple again

=O

My thoughts exactly.

I expect the usual "milestone' issue. There will be laughter, crying, action, cheesy dialogue and something 'BIG AND SHOCKING' happens that could possible change comics forever.

... Oh who am I kidding, I could care less. I just though I should post something other than a one sentence reply.

EDIT: Also, what's up with the recent Monkey Khan lovin'?

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Monkey Khan would be much better if he wore a diaper.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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i'm betting something big and shocking will happen, then due to classic ian style, everything will be better by the next issue for the heroes.

 
(@johnnymac86)
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Who knows what might happen? It's mobius where anything can happen. But, my guesses might be:

1.) Their own zone may be collapsing, like in "Mobius: 25 Years Later".

2.) Maybe some other character will be introduced, or even a resurrected Tommy Turtle, though it was funny having him in the series. He was like Hamlin or Dylan from the the Princess Sally mini-series. It's too bad he couldn't get a position there before he died.

3.) Something happens to the mobians that they all get scattered across the universe and sonic has to go round them up.

4.) Maybe a Sonic The Hedgehog / Sonic X crossover? Where the 2 zones merge? Unlikely though.

 
(@gammarallyson)
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2.) Maybe some other character will be introduced, or even a resurrected Tommy Turtle...

NONONONONONONONONO!!!

Seriously, WHY is it in topics such as this one that some people want, think or suggest bringing Tommy back form the dead... AGAIN. What, because he was so useful when he was brought back the first time?

Let the... whatever he turned into rest in peace already, SHEESH! XD

 
(@the-eggpire)
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BUT TOMMY IS AWESOME!!!! EVRYBODY KNOWS THAT!!!! TOMMY TURTLE PWNS ALL!!!!

 
(@dragonash)
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BUT TOMMY IS AWESOME!!!! EVRYBODY KNOWS THAT!!!! TOMMY TURTLE PWNS ALL!!!!

FALSE

It's interesting that someone mentioned splitting everyone up... I had just been thinking about the previous failed attempts to push out backburner characters to put the focus on Sonic (Him and tails 'makin movies, singin songs and flying round the world OY!', Lost in Space, etc.). Splitting everyone up would be just as corny, unless it was something intentional, like the New Democratic Kingdom letting the people vote to warp the kingdom to a different Zone where Robotnik's new threat couldn't touch them, and while many people decide they are tired of fighting and leave, many (especially Sonic) stay to continue the fight against Robotnik's tyranny, refusing to give in until Mobius is truly free and at peace. We would have a full circle, with a new group of Freedom Fighters against a new Robotropolis. I had to leave the idea pretty vague so it could feasibly happen in some way, but that is what I hope for eventually.

 
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If Sonic and the Freedom Fighters are split up again, it has to be done in a better way. With story lines like the around the world and "Tosed in Space," some fans got the impression that Archie/Sega was getting Sonic away from the others just because they don't like Sonic around the Freedom Fighters and to ruin his friendships with them.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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The only way I'd approve of the Freedom Fighters splitting up would be if something big and dramatical happened, and even then, it'd only have to split them up temporarily (like at least 10+ issues, thank you). But having them together for so long, it'd be kind of awkward if they split permanently.

But the Sonic & Tails roadtrip back in the 50's was pretty cool, I wouldn't mind seeing that again if only for the world tour again, to see what's changed since then.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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If Sonic and the Freedom Fighters are split up again, it has to be done in a better way. With story lines like the around the world and "Tosed in Space," some fans got the impression that Archie/Sega was getting Sonic away from the others just because they don't like Sonic around the Freedom Fighters and to ruin his friendships with them.

not alot of people felt that way. sonic and tails never get stories where it's just them. i mean they ARE the dynamic duo of the comic. tails gets downplayed so much as it is, so the world tour really helped him out as far as character development went.

 
(@the-eggpire)
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The above doesn't dosn't apply to Tossed in Space! I almost thought about canceling my subscription after rading those lackluster stories! I mean come on one of them was even based off of SW:Episode I! Recipe for disaster!

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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Well heres what I predict (HOPE FOR)

1.Scourge is eventually defeated & returns to his own dimension with fiona & the Suppresion Squad.
2. What ever Device Robtnik is using to control the dark legion is destroyed, so lien-da defects & joins either the Chaotix or Dr. Fintivus
3. a Back story featuring the SSSSSS Squad.
4. The black arms finally invade, but are defeateed by Sonic & shadow
5. The fight with the black arms opens a diemnsonal ripe simillar to that to the ulimate ahnnihiltor which unleashes the Dark brotherhood on a weakend mobius.

As for 200 itsself i'd like to see Brotherhood VS Legion, & possibly Dimitis death, shade (The new characters) real face , & of course the FF & Chaotix Vs the brotherhood.

Id also like to see blaze eventually return to the comics as well as silver actually apper, id like to see some TailsXMarine stuff, considering tails last crush turned out to be a total you know what & more use of classic sonic chars such as Nack & the SSSSSS Squad.

 
(@johnnymac86)
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(@johnnymac86)
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Who knows what might happen? It's mobius where anything can happen. But, my guesses might be:

3.) Something happens to the mobians that they all get scattered across the universe and sonic has to go round them up.

As my response to the scattered mobians idea, it would make an interesting story. It would last for, i don't know, 10 or 15 issues. So many mobians on the planet. And to be more specific, though not very creative, how about we leave sonic on mobius this time & send the rest of mobius into space? <just kidding>

 
(@rosas)
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All I know and feel in my gut, is that something huge will happen, I mean Ian's the kind of guy that when it comes to a milestone issiue like this one coming soon, that he drop a bombshell so big, that it will change readers outlook on the comic forever, to the point that it will bring back readers who stopped reading the comic, just to see what's the hub-bub's about.

But I also feeling that there will a character death as well, who it will be, is anyone's guess.

I feel other things (that I will not mention, so I will not get in trouble for) will also occur before and/or in the 200th issiue.

Anyway that's what I see happen. But hey, I've been wrong before.

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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well Rosas I have a bad felling that Lien-da or DImitri will die, (Seems like Ian likes to pic on Knux lately) Its also possible that either Fiona may kick the bucket, My final quess would probably be Rotor (I find it odd that they brought up the whole neck thing in 190.)

plus i heard that silver will be entering sonic comic continuity soon....I hope he brings blaze back with him, becuase besides the sonic rush adaption we havent seen her at all.

 
(@kaylathehedgehog)
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plus i heard that silver will be entering sonic comic continuity soon....I hope he brings blaze back with him, becuase besides the sonic rush adaption we havent seen her at all.

Ugh. Great, bring in the Sonic equivalent of Mirai Trunks, only more angsty.

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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...c,mon now it won't be that bad....im sure he'll only apper on rare occasions....hopefully....however I would like archie to show Blaze more she's probably my fav. saga made sonic character since shadow, plus I find her fire powers interesting ,id like to learn how she got them. (& I think it would be hillarious if archie mad her a closet pyromaniac! im serious LOL!)

Sonic: Blaze did you try to burn down Freedom HQ again.

Blaze (holding stick of matches behinf back) Of course not, don't be silly

Sonic: Ok, well mind watchin the place while I get a chili-dog

Blaze: Sure

3 minuts later

Sonic: Oh my god blaze what have you done!

Blaze BURN BABY BURN!!!!!

......who says arson can't be funny

 
(@darkest-light)
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>> ....

200 is when Dimitri beats Eggman at the game Eggman did to the King so many years ago. I can't wait to see that.

200 will be Scourge's asserting a foothold on Mobius somewhere. He's not going anywhere.

200 will be Finitivus return-but whether will it be on Eggman's side or Dimtri's side, I'm not sure.

200 will be the banishment of Kommissar to the Negative Zone-and in exchange, the freeing of Spectre (I CAN DREAM, DAMNIT!)

200 will be the end of the road for a character-whether it be death, banishment, plothole, what have you.

200 will be the best Milestone issue EVA! (Again.KEEP HOPE ALIVE)

One of those 6 Will occur.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Sonic and friends hear an ice cream truck.

They rush to get their money, but don't make it in time to catch the ice cream truck.

Sonic uses his super speed to catch up with, and stop the ice cream truck.

Sonic and friends are happy that they got to eat the ice cream, provided by the ice cream truck.

Best milestone in the history of forever.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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Ya gotta admit, it'd be hard to top that.

*not*

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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I bet i can, ok sonic & crew are about to eat their ice cream when siver pops out of nowhere takes it & runs off, sonic chases after him but silver uses his power to momentarly freeze sonic. later sonic catches up to silver only to find that blaze has melted the ice cream (By accident of course.)

Sonic: Thanks for ruining a milestone issue silver!!!! (& the comics continuity.)

Blaze: FIRE!!!!!

Silver: oh crap blaze forgot to take her pills, run like hell!!! LOL

& that will be how silver will be introduced into the comic!

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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Totally reminds me of the early "Freeze Frame" issue.

 
(@techno88)
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Sonic and Sally becoming a couple again

Now that sounds like something that really could happen in 200!

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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Yep sonic & sally getting back together would be good, but then im sure archie would do somthing stupid like make knux & su break up (Heaven forbid.) but who knows im betting my bottom dollar though that 200 is filled with action, drama, romance, comady, suprieses mabye a death or two....& deffinantly will most likely be a cliffhanger issue in more then 1 way. (Im also guessing that Blaze & silver will show up in or around isssue 200 (which i quess or hope means that the Sonic chronicles & sonic unleashed adaptions will be 48 page specials or mini's i think that it would be great for archie to bring both back mabye that way we can get a shadow mini-series!)

 
(@matt7325)
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What's all this relationship talk for, eh?

 
(@spiner-storm)
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What relationship talk? Nope, I don't see nothing, no siree bob.

 
(@crimson-darkwolfe)
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Besides, everybody knows that even if there were relationship talk Nicole is Sally's true love ;3

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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The rule is there for a reason. I know that the Moderators haven't always been there to pounce on these things recently, but that's still no reason not to stick to it (I think that certain people know who they are in this respect) - if only because you never know if the staff're lurking around.

*re-lurks*

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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....I can't set myself on fire...awww man, interesting rules though.

 
(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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What relationship talk? Nope, I don't see nothing, no siree bob.

I hope someone watches TV Land as much as I do and understands the humor!

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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I agree no realationship talk here, I am in no way a romantic or a shipper (Cough Lin-daXFini cough) But in all seriousness I never cared that much for couples in shows & comics until about a year ago, guess im getting cynical in my old age. Or it could be that I like many others have become obbsesed with the lives of these characters,....what am i saying this is rediculous im a legionar i can't think like that

ALL HAIL DIMITRI!!!

LONG LIVE THE LEGION!!!

I AM DALEK!!!!

oops, probably should'nt of let that last one slip out.

any way can't wait for #200 (Cough Silvaze Cough)

 
(@userpjx)
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I'd like to see Spectre make a come back. That guy is a total badass. I can't believe how long the Brotherhood has been gone... Come back, for the love of God.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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They're trapped in the Twilight Zone, beaten and bruised. I can't see them get out for quite a while, if ever.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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i'm missing the issue, but doesn't that seem like a cop out? like "i don't want to deal with the brotherhood, so rather than saying they're all dead, they're trapped. thus effectively dead."

 
(@ian-potto_1722585839)
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Quite the opposite, actually. I was going to out-right kill them, but decided to back off since I'd already killed off so many echidnas. I thought folks would prefer a ray of hope over a clear-cut demise. Instead, it looks like most would've prefered an "ending" one way or another.

Live and learn.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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that's kinda what i mean though. why would you want to kill off that many characters? that's kinda like marvel's decision to kill off alpha flight, there was like 4 characters that got killed over the course of a page, vs them having years worth of character development. isn't that the exact same thing?

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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So the question becomes:

a) should the writer bear the responsibility of writing scenarios for characters they have no vested interest in to placate the fans, especially if it means the characters could come out the worse for it,

b) put them on 'standby' until a better opportunity presents itself for their involvement, taking the risk that it may never come and the characters' fates remain in limbo, or

c) kill 'em off because they're terrible/unpopular/unusable characters that have no place in the future of the book they were created to be a part of, and does the writer have the 'right' to do so (especially if said characters were creations of another writer)?

Keeping in mind, of course, that in the comic book industry "killing off" and "standby" are fairly synonymous.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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i suppose that i'd have to agree that ian did the right thing by not killing them, i guess that's really the best option that was open to him. i guess the only other option was to leave their fate a mystery until *if ever* he decided to use them. and i'd almost prefer that to knowing that they just won't be in the comic for the foreseeable future due to being trapped.

 
(@ian-potto_1722585839)
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Psxphile pretty much nailed the conundrum.

Taking out the Brotherhood vs. Alpha Flight: both were to establish a villainous force (if I'm thinking of the same A.F. wipe-out as hypershadow77). The Brotherhood led to an explanation of how Finitevus worked out his Enerjak-hex and established him as a methodical, evil character. Alpha Flight died to show how powerful that all-in-one-and-maybe-Xorn-thing was back in the day. (Did anything ever come from that?)

The difference to me, though, is that Alpha Flight provided something. They are the Canadian super-team with individual characters and back-story and all the good stuff already mentioned.

The Brotherhood had none of that. They were the embodiment of Knuckles' lineage, but they weren't contributing to the book. Sure, there were some nifty designs and potential for story, but as things stood they were drawing the focus away from Knuckles. Why does it matter that Knuckles is a chaos-power-wielding-Guardian when you have five more chillin' in Haven? How is any threat to Angel Island viable when you've got that many high-powered characters with super-tech ready to rise to the occassion?

Athair was unique because he operated on a level higher than Knuckles - with the Ancient Walkers and the Chaos Force. That's why he's still around (sort of). Locke had his own unique traits, but I felt his demise in "Enerjak: Reborn" brought his story fully around and neatly closed: he played with nature to construct a Guardian, came to see the folly of his meddling, and ultimately redeemed himself by saving his son. The rest of the Brotherhood did nothing but provide peers for Locke to speak cryptically to.

I know not everyone's going to agree with that, but what's done is done. All I can do from here is explain my reasoning and hope we can all at least agree to disagree.

 
(@tornadot)
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Well at least there is a decent explaination. I'm kind of glad the Brotherhood is out of the picture because they had outlived their usefulness after awhile.

 
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