In Archie: back when Sonic and Tails were on their world tour, they stumbled into the domain of the demi-gods horizontal and vertical (Who Sonic met in the single digit days of the comic) who had gone bonkers and turned Sonic and Tails into willing slaves to fight to the death in the name of their meaningless grudge match. Sonic came within inches of killing Tails before Tails' real self came back to the surface for a few moments to snap Sonic out of it.
I wonder if ...
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either one of them will remember or flash back to that awful turn of events when they are again set against each other in issues to come! I would be REALLY cool if they realized that they had been here before.
Only this time they aren't being brainwashed into killing each other, now they have a CHOICE.
I'm sure a flashback or reference of some sort will come back up again. As an ancient once said, "No dagger goes as deep as one held by a friend."
I remember that one!
Did they ever come back again?
Nope that was the last issue they was in. I wouldn't be suprised if we see them again soon!
Sonic X would be perfect! They could fight against Decoe and Bocoe. That's a fight I would see anyday. 
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Nope that was the last issue they was in.
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It's "...last issue they were in."
horizont-al and verti-cal
where both cool charaters I hope theres more refrence about them in Sonic #178
We can hope, but since the writers and editors of Archie are forbidden to read these forums (though that didn't stop them from collecting an idea of mine without my knowledge from the TSF forum for the Metal Sonic Army issue) if we're the only ones to remember this super special, then it's all for naut.
And horizont-al and verti-cal were cool characters, and since Ian has shown an honest desire to dig through the early issues for stuff the readers love to see referenced, we can HOPE. But I wouldn't count on it.
Since these comics' scripts are written what, three, four months in advance? What we're saying now is kinda meaningless, fate as to weather Sonic and Tails realize they're back doing what they did with Al and Cal is set in stone.
Then again, this place is about sharing ideas, so whose to call that meaningless?
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There's always the classic comic style for the panels: Sonic and Tails face off, and we have a panel each where they see each other in the armor Al and Cal stuck them in when they were turned on each other. Might be the wake up call they need.
Ian drops by here every so often, actually.
Oh, I lurk all the time. I am a phantom of the Sonic forums.
And issues are typically written 5-6 months in advance.
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I am a phantom of the Sonic forums
I've got this image of you wearing a white mask, living under the forum and emerging at night to teach about posting.
And now he's sure to do it.
Which?
Steal the plot, or post an image of himself wearing a white mask?
Given my deep respect for the fandom, my integrity as a writer, and my affection for odd theatrical out-bursts, I'd think the answer is obvious.
The phaaaaaaaaantom of the Sonic forums issssss....insiiide your miiiiiiinds . . .
Wow, you did that sooner than I expected.
Gotta keep on your toes, Toby. He doesn't kid about the odd theatrical out-bursts.
Aw.
No white masked spookiness.
Then again Spiner Storm, he could be inside you this very minute... 
I for one, can't wait for the Sonic vs. Tails issue. I beat up Sonic all the time with Tails in both fighting games. ![:]](https://www.mobiusforum.net/images/icons/smilies/biggrinshaded.gif){kind=icon}
A Sonic vs. Tails story would be a very climatic, enduring story. Especially since they are fighting for real this time. There were already foreshadowing this fight in the first three pages of Sonic 176, I believe.
The smallest dissagreements can lead to some strong revalations. Hey, that's a good quote!
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The smallest dissagreements can lead to some strong revalations.
You mean "disagreements" and "revelations." (I'm also a huge Grammar Police guy as well, if you couldn't tell. xD) But that is certainly a really good quote.
I have a quick question: which issue had the aforementioned Sonic vs. Tails battle? If it involved Horizont-Al and Verti-Cal, I assume it must be a fairly old issue...
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You mean "disagreements" and "revelations." (I'm also a huge Grammar Police guy as well, if you couldn't tell. xD) But that is certainly a really good quote.
Why did you put a complete sentence in parentheses?
Can't entire sentences be used in parentheses if they are indicating an aside or a point tangential to the original topic?
Whoops. Easy mistake.
I'm talking about issue #178.
Who knows what's going to happen; but I believe that they are starting to get on each other's nerves. Like I said in my last post.
Oh, no, no, I meant the original Sonic vs. Tails battle. The one where Horizontal and Vertical turned them against each other?
Jesus, I feel like such a newb, asking for so many references...Dx
Okay. Now I'm confused.
*Reads your second post*
Maybe it's best if you rephrase what you are trying to say.
*Reads it again*
Now I get it! I feel like such a blonde here. XD I was talking about Sonic #178 The whole time. I guess I was just off-topic. 
Sonic and Tails entered the Unknown Zone and got brainwashed into trying to kill each other for the glory of their "masters" in Sonic The Hedgehog Number 59.
And so it begins again, except this time I doubt they'll be a voice of reason in the last moment to stop them from killing each other.
While Sonic and Sally's break up felt just messed up, (it's finally shown the signs of healing) this......is the most tragic thing to happen in this comic. Two brothers out to kill each other, it's hard to top that. Yes we've had bigger body counts and propery damage, but NONE of it, has struck home as hard as this!
And even IF the king and the good general make peace now... Sonic and Tails will never be able to trust each other on a mission again. And a team needs trust to win, and that trust is gone now. Score one for the Eggman.
Hey, trust can always be reearned. And by always, I don't mean all cases I just mean there is always that possibility.
But what was beautiful about them, the fact that they were like brothers... has been shot in the heart.
Sonic hasn't exactly been brother material lately to Tails. Once trust is shattered, it can take years to build that trust back up again. Only time will tell if the gulf between them will ever heal.
I bet it will in #179. XD
I understand how you feel Alex, you care about Sonic and Tails' friendship, I and a lot of other fans do too. Don't be discouraged though, I trust that, just as Sonic and Sally are healing, Sonic and Tails will too. Sonic does need to admit his mistakes for this to start though.
At least if things work out Sonic will understand Sally more at least.
The worst thing is though: I don't think I recognize Tails anymore.
Well, Tails is growing up. He's not the little fox that idolized Sonic that he once was.
If anything, I'm glad for this change. This could possibly be a way for Tails to get out of Sonic's shadow and become a hero in his own right (being the Chosen One not withstanding).
Tails is a hero already.
Well put, Sailor Unicorn. Tails isn't a kid anymore, and he probably resents Sonic because he gets all the recognition for being a hero. It's why Dick Grayson ditched Batman to become Nightwing.
Resolving his current feud with Tails will no doubt give Sonic an insight into how he needs to make up with Sally, which is something I'm sure we'd all like to see. Even if those two don't get back together-for now, anyway-it would be nice to see them do away with suppressed anger over their argument and get back together. The same goes with Tails.
By the way, "Al and Cal" later showed up again after being mutated by the effects of the Ulimate Annhilator. Due to being hit by the beam, the Unknown Zone-where they lived-was transformed into a massive battlefield where the two of them fought each other in Roboticized forms. Apparently having had their personalities reversed, they want to destroy each other instead of playing together. Sonic and Tails ran into them again, but they left them behind. Since then, they haven't been seen.
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By the way, "Al and Cal" later showed up again after being mutated by the effects of the Ulimate Annhilator. Due to being hit by the beam, the Unknown Zone-where they lived-was transformed into a massive battlefield where the two of them fought each other in Roboticized forms. Apparently having had their personalities reversed, they want to destroy each other instead of playing together. Sonic and Tails ran into them again, but they left them behind. Since then, they haven't been seen.
Yes, that's kind of what this entire topic was built on. Check the first post.
Oh...my mistake...I thought that they turned Sonic and Tails against each other the first time they met. Man, it sucks not having the comics.
So how do you actually remain a fan of the comic without actually having any of the issues? Wikipedia?
Pretty much. I also check out Sonic HQ and other sites with information about the comics. Hopefully, I'll be able to get ahold of scans of the entire series thus far (including Knuckles, Mini-Series, and Specials) from a source pointed out to me by a friend recently. It's annoying, but well worth it to know all about some of the coolest characters in all of Sonic.
Honestly, I don't know how 'cool' Archie Sonic and Tails are right now. If it wasn't a hack if it turned out to be the case, I'd wish that this was just some awful awful nightmare.
If Sonic and Tails are at each others throats now.
Does that mean Scourge and Anti-Tails are gonna kiss and make up?
Currently, I don't see Archie's Sonic and Tails-particularly Sonic-as "cool" at all. Sure, they've pulled off some neat stuff in the past, but all in all they're no different than they are in the games and such. I was referring more to the likes of characters who weren't in the games/cartoons or were featured only minorly in SatAM: the Freedom Fighters, Ixis Naugus, Enerjak, Mammoth Mogul, Julie-Su, the Dark Legion, and quite a few other original characters (mostly in the department of villains).
Whether or not you're making a joke, Alex, I highly doubt that about Scourge and Evil Tails (known afterwards as ET). Scourge has no desire to return to Anti Mobius, and the Anti-Freedom Fighters aren't likely to return any time soon: their leader was last seen thrown into a pool filled with potentially dangerous creatures, and the rest of them are probably fighting to see who's in charge. Besides, if Anti-Sally is still around, she's smart enough to realize that going back to Mobius Prime won't profit them anything since they've gotten their tails handed to them every time they've gone there.
Furthermore, what Sonic and Tails do doesn't mean that Scourge and ET will do the opposite. Sonic and Tails aren't going to hate each other forever-hopefully-while Scourge and ET have never shown any inclination that they have the same sort of bond as those two. ET probably always felt the way about Scourge that Tails, for the time being, feels about Sonic. Of course, Sonic has made his own mistakes in proving somewhat worthy of that opinion by behaving in ways not too dissimilar from Scourge. Sonic and Tails will probably be friends again, but even if Scourge and ET met up-no reason why they would, but it's possible-ET would probably hate Scourge just as much as the rest of the Anti-Freedom Fighters do.
I don't want Sonic and Tails to completely sever the bond they've had because of this, either. Hopefully, everyone will come out of this situation somewhat wiser.
Huh, I've never posted this much in this forum before. I think I've broken my personal boycott on the comic.
Sonic and Tails are a couple of hotheads, but deep down they're still friends. If all goes well, they'll just knock each other around a bit before finally admitting what was bugging both of them and making up just in time to stop the Kingdom of Acorn from being torn apart by civil war.
Glad to hear it; the comic may suck sometimes, but it has some of the best original characters in the whole franchise. A pity that Mammoth Mogul, Enerjak, the Dark Legion, and Julie-Su won't ever show up in the games or on TV. Scourge and the Anti-Freedom Fighters I could live without: the evil clone thing has been played up too much and three male Hedgehogs is more than enough.
I wouldn't mind seeing Sonic and Tails go down the Batman/Nightwing route - with Tails getting his own identity, way of doing things and whatnot. With Tails being the age he is, it's hard to make the sort of unquestioning hero worship he's had for Sonic plausible any more - let alone the idea that this'd just get swept under the carpet as soon as it's over.
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let alone the idea that this'd just get swept under the carpet as soon as it's over.
Sadly, unless Sonic wises up and learns that he is not infallible, he may very well try to do that.
