I love the pictures, but the first two are a little silly.
that's what to be 
Silly me went to a Chinese restaurant to eat real Chinese food with the Chinese form my lab. My fortune cookie read: "A surprise treat awaits you"... I got home on Tuesday and waiting by the door was a box with none other than my glorious boxset. Suficient to say, it was love all over again.
NEXT GEN BLOOOOOOM @ bw's pics
Also, if you're so obsessed with showing off your 5 o'clock shadow, please do it here. Seriously man, you're creeping me out.
BW1979, we already got better pics of the interior from psxphile, thanks. Oh, and that stain on your pillow?............EEEEEWWWWWW!!
I should have checked this thread before to see if anyone got the DVD's. Also, I saw the sales figures on the news page. I think 18th for animation videos is pretty good considering there must be many animation DVD's out there.
I ordered mine from Amazon since I wouldn't have time until today to pick it up. I wanted to have it to listen to while I studying. It was waiting for me on the porch Tuesday afternoon.
I thought the Storyboards for the Alternate Opening were interesting since I never gave thought there could be another one.
I just got back from a little grocery shopping, its in stock at the Walmart/Kmart in Bradley Illinois.
I just managed to find somewhere selling for 11.55GBP, including shipping from Florida. At that price, even a cheapskate like me could get tempted.
Whoa @ Sam... How the heck did you manage that one? I paid $22 (so basically the same price) for mine from Amazon... I know some site had it for $18, but you needed to add shipping...
I'd go for that price... I doubt you'll find it cheaper!
I'll wait til I find it in the dollar bargain bin at Hastings.
You all bring up good points, but the way I see it, Season 1 if you watch and listen to some of the epiosdes very closely, they led into some of what we get in Season 2. What's that you say, you don't know what I mean, well let explain:
1st of all, Ultra Sonic gaves a hint of Uncle Chuck possibly return when Sonic vowed to rescue him at the end.
2nd of all, Sonic Boom hinted us at the fact that Sally's father was still alive somewhere, it's just she and we didn't know where untill Blast to the Past and The Void in Season 2.
And 3rd of all, at the end of Secret Scrolls, which to most us is the season 1 finale, despite it's on Disc 1, Robotnik vowed that Sonic would pay dearly for nearly killing him, and to me that led us into the Season 2 fianle saga of Doomsday.
But that's how I see it.
By the way though, Heads or Tails is the polit, anyone else ever notice when it first aired that it aired at the end of season 1, almost like comic book edition of the series, cause that's how I first saw it, how you all?
Who are you even talking to? No one said anything about SatAM not employing foreshadowing.
Sorry, I jsut pasted my reponse to a simalar topic in another, hey I might be getting a step ahead, cause who know, someone else may talk about this soon.
One thing I am curious about is if they cut a sence or two in Spyhog, cause I would love to have seen a secne where Sonic fianlly explains what happened in Robotropils with Antione to Sally, was because of the kiss she gave hime earlier, remember when she and Bunnie arrived at the same time Sonic did with Antione, Sally asks:
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What happened?
In which Sonic reponses with the look of annyoed and I knew this would happened if you kissed Ant:
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Tell ya later!
Cause That's Something I would love to have seen personal, wouldn't you?
i honestly think you're reading WAY too much into it, i mean, there's not supposed to be like philisophical foreshadowing in this show, it was a show that was it. it didn't do anything that other shows didn't do one hundred times over.
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Whoa @ Sam... How the heck did you manage that one? I paid $22 (so basically the same price) for mine from Amazon... I know some site had it for $18, but you needed to add shipping...
Yeah, I guessed. I pounced. 🙂
I'm holding my breath until the package arrives, though, since it's not a supplier I've used before (although it was a sale via Amazon Marketplace, so it's got some sort of safety net).
Just got back from the Best Buy near my school. The had at least one copy in... But it was $25.99 😯
When I left work last night, there was only one set left at the time, don't know if it's there still, no need to worry though, got mine last Monday at Midnight! 
I brought the DVD last night, no I am not going to take a picture of myself with it and post it here. As much as I enjoy Sonic Sat a.m. I am not that crazy. I am going to write a review of the DVD, on my web page, as soon as possible once I look at more of the extra features.
Unless I missed a comment somewhere, I'm curious to know if I'm the only one who feels that the cover fan art for the Season 1 (Bunnie, Antoine, Sally, Dulcy, Sonic, Tails, Rotor) & Season 2 (Sally, Sonic, Bunnie) discs should've been reversed?
I haven't watched the interviews, but the other extras were very nice. I especially enjoyed the "unused theme" (that answered the whole Bunnie question & was similar to Archie's Bunnie intro in a way) and the concept art.
heh, I agree TR... Even the tones are mixed up. Season 1's cover is really dark, while Season 2's is much lighter...
Oh, GO WATCH THE INTERVIEWS NOW! Seriously, I know it's like 3am, but you won't regret them... especially Ben's interview.
That was my first thought upon opening the boxset as well...the two covers shoulda been reversed. Oh, well...
Yup, the interviews didn't disappoint. But Ben Hurst cracked me up with his "love triangle" idea. Archie has caught so much grief for doing it and he wanted to do it in the 3rd season. That was probably the best thing I heard just as an "AHA" moment. ^_^
Yes, I liked the interviews too, the "love triangle" thing did kind of bother me, though I don't think the writers of Sonic Sat a.m. would have split them up for good. Does anyone know if there is a way to write Ben or any of the other writers? I did a search for Ben, and didn't find any infomation on how to write him. I believe I would like to write them to ask some questions.
True Red, just to let you know, I sent you another PM.
To the best of my knowledge, Ben can be reached by emailing Quexinos at the FUS forums. She's in direct contact with him and he's asked that queries come through her.
Brian
sorta late butcough
edit: then again, maybe I should actually read the topic to see if this was mentioned before hand.
Curse you Boston and your haha-I-already-posted-it links. I thought I had actually found a great and new site to gladly share with my peoples. 🙁
YOU ARE THIEVING MY GLORY BASKING
*steals your happiness*
Contining from what I was saying, one of the changes in Sally in Archie that I have liked is that they have up a stop with Sally flirting with guys other than Sonic. I have noticed she has been faithful in her emotions to Sonic, even though she broke up with him, for a while.
What I found interesting about J.White's interview, was that he didn't get to work with the rest of the cast a lot of the time. The fact that he was able to be convicing in his interaction with the other characters is a credit to his and the rest of the cast talent IMO. It also sounds like they had a great director.
DC, it's very rare when a voice actor DOES work with the rest of the cast.
mmm, no @ Toby
Think about the voice actors for The Simpsons and Family Guy. They have big read throughs for their scripts. When the actors record their lines, they usually do it together. In this case, Mr. White was not able to make these. He ended up reading/ recording his lines on his own.
Actually, Toby's right. Successful voice actors have BUSY schedules. Insanely busy, in fact. It is incredibly rare for all of those schedules to mesh so perfectly that they can all occupy a sound booth at one time.
In the case of The Simpsons, while they're all successful, few of them make their livings doing hundreds of voices on hundreds of shows. They may do hundreds of voices on The Simpsons, but they're not also doing three other Saturday morning series and commercials at the same time. It's easier to schedule them together. Early on, they didn't record together, either. It was a point of interest in interviews when they'd mention that they'd heard one another's voices over and over, but had never or rarely had the opportunity to meet.
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And I can see why this show had fans back in the day, but I'm befuddled that it still has fans fourteen years later. There's a much better comic book out there, it's biggest competitor has continued for years, and finishing the box set doesn't exactly leave me wanting more. Still, for a 26-episode series, it's got a nice run of episodes, and if you're a Sonic fan and can find it for the right price, go ahead and hit this 1-UP Monitor.
a supremely accurate statement.
It's not that accurate; the show still has its fans because it was a show that chose to go beyond the souce material. And those same fans feel a little betrayed by Archie for drifting away from the SatAM formula, and towards the Sega formula. And finishing the boxset leaves at least me wanting more...
Archie doesn't owe a decade-old dead cartoon a thing; and it's ludicrous to expect them to. The comic would have been cancelled a long time ago if they just treated it as "SatAM: The Comic".
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but I'm befuddled that it still has fans fourteen years later. There's a much better comic book out there,
THAT is the accurate statement.
The guy may be befuddled, but that doesn't change the fact that the show still has its fans. And regarding whether or not the comic is better, well at one point I think it was. But now, not so much.
And they do still owe SatAM something; on the flipside, had it been SegaSonic: The Comic, it would've been cancelled after a dozen issues. When comic book sales were declining in the mid 1990s, Sonic actually was one of the few series that picked up in readership. Why? Because after SatAM died, the shows fans turned to Archie for their fix. Maybe much of that readership has moved on since then, and maybe Archie feels compelled to change with the readership, but it would still be a mistake, now more than ever, to morph into SegaSonic: The Comic.
There's a flaw in your logic, considering Sonic the Comic sold pretty damn well.
And yet it's not around today...except as an online fanfic...
And I wasn't referring to StC. Besides, what worked for Fleetway wouldn't work for Archie.
I misread your post and saw "SegaSonic: The Comic" as just "Sonic the Comic". My mistake.
Reading what that reviewer said in that Archie was superior made me wince. I'll admit, for a while back in the mid 1990s, the comic did surpass the cartoon. That's one of the reasons readership picked up. But now, it's hard to see how anyone could view Archie as superior, since they're focus seems so scattershot in trying to include elements from the cartoons and the games, and doing such a hit-and-miss job of it.
Oh, give it a rest. How exactly has the introduction of these recent "SegaSonic elements" which people have been whinging about - which are limited to, what, Bark, Bean, and a passing reference to Extreme Gear? - causing the comic to spiral into a pit of crap? You seem to be missing the fact that a). the comic's narrative doesn't rely on which media it's taking its inspiration from - it's about the pacing and the writing, rather than, omgz, Sega raping your precious cartoon show which has been dead for over a decade; and b) complaining about "SegaSonic elements" is just pretentious considering they've been steadily included in the comic since at least issue #4. Obviously Sega's mandating that their key products are featured, so Sonic, Tails, Amy, Robotnik, Knuckles, Shadow, etc. are going to have to have a bit more limelight than, say, Dulcy or Elias, but it's not like Ian has retconned the whole comic so it takes place in Soleanna and Sonic sleeps all the time.
The comic has not, and will not, exist by just being a paper version of the SatAM cartoon. But this doesn't meaning it's becoming the "SegaSonic Comic". There is a line that is being walked, and it leaves enough room for both without crying about it.
I've always thought that yes, this show was EXTREMLY overrated. Nay... I thought the show was honestly.... garbage.
Yet another cheap, badly done, cartoon that was tourture on the animators to have to sit and druge this crud out from a badly penned script from "Cartoon Writers" and executives that didn't know their buisness or their ass from a hole in the ground.
Another cheap, poor attempt to rush a show out in order to hype and sell the games. DiC is widely known as an incredibly cheap and rather horrible company that treated animation like a tedious office job mass producing a poor product on an assembly line.
People defend this show up and down by praising the characterization, and the dark atmosphere.
What characterization? What dark atmosphere?
Every character was completely one-dimensional, including (and especially) the new characters. Everyone was a poor stereotype of themselves. Sonic and Tails especially being cringeworthy representations of themselves. Despite the so called "atmosphere" they never really learned anything, and episodes were only barely connected to each other with the most general overlaying plot. A plot which never ventured beyond the typical poorly written Saturday morning fare.
And the so-called "Dark Atmosphere"? Fans of the show usually gloss over or remain ignorant of two points.
1. The show never did anything dark, outside of merely presenting a dystopian society ruled by machines. This is quite an unoriginal concept pullled off poorly and done without making any real social commentary or putting it in a proper frame other than "it's a reason to make the cartoon work on a basic level", The darkness was merely implied and it was up to the viewer to read between the lines and imagine their own darkness in a show that merely "faked" a dark tone.
The worst sin of the show was reducing Eggman/Robotnik (whichever you prefer) to the most boring, generic, one-dimensional, and uninteresting cartoon villain ever conceived. He literally did nothing but deliver lines that Dr. Claw would have found horribly cliched. Taking one of the best foils and reducing him to that was unforgivable.
...As was reducing Sonic into an extremly annoying and irritating punk that you wanted to stomp into the ground and wring his little blue neck rather than ever cheer for. Tails was an idiotic, blubbering 4 year old simp, and every new character was hideously unnessessary and offered nothing to the show. The most compelling characters in the Sonic universe were all characters that were outright ignored. Knuckles? Amy? Nowhere. As if they never existed.
For the life of me, I have no idea how people can claim the show was unique and different when every episode featured the same types of generic Saturday morning generic "action" plots as any other show. And topped off with hideous HIDEOUS cheaply outsourced korean animation.
The show, at no time was really any darker than Scooby Doo, or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, He-Man, or G.I Joe. Which are all very inane and poor shows in their own rights.
Nostalgia really can do a number on people's common sense. Leading them to believe that everything that was poor back when they were too young to know any better is incredibly awesome now, simply becuase people like to relive their childhoods. (Because animation was all the same then, with nothing outstanding to compare it to)
2. Even if it had been 'Dark', (which it wasn't really), that's no sure fire guarantee that it's good because of it, anyway. The tone in SatAM was much more of a deux-ex-machina to give the show some semblance of a coherent structure than anything that ever intended to make a message or be emotionally impacting. The show had all of the emotional impact of a Hanna Barbera cartoon of the 1970's.
I actually think the IGN article gives the show a little TOO MUCH credit. It was a very poor, uncompelling, boring, generic cheaply animated assembly line production intended to make young kids sit still and watch a cheesy representation of Sonic on the screen.
When I think of the animators that wasted years of their lives translating inane, badly written scripts into literal animated form somehow, by the grace of god, without committing suicide from the sheer tedium, it amazes me that out of all of the other wretchedly poor animated shows of the 1980's and 1990's, this one has a few fans that assert that it was of any higher quality than the rest of the worthless garbage being produced at the time, such as Street Sharks, Biker Mice From Mars, and Mighty Max.
To be perfectly fair, I think the IGN article was a bit too nice to the show. I would have given it a 1 out of 10.
I think you know nothing of what the cartoon was about, and you obviously haven't seen the interview with Ben Hurst, where he said the animators and artists actually cared what they were doing, same as the writers. So don't assume that was a half-assed attempt to hype the games. It was quite the contrary in reality. The half-assed marketing tool was AoStH. The SatAM writers' goal was to make Sonic more screen-friendly, to make it more than just a marketing tool. And they succeeded. That's why the show has kept its fanbase fourteen years later.
And these "passing referrences" may be just that, but they're also the beginning of a downward slope. Sure, there's a line to walk, but I fear it's slowly being crossed by these referrences.
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And these "passing referrences" may be just that, but they're also the beginning of a downward slope. Sure, there's a line to walk, but I fear it's slowly being crossed by these referrences.
Downward slope? What exactly is so bad about these references? Are they somehow crowding out and killing every SatAM element? Obviously that's not the case, given the recent focus on the core FF (which seems to actually be increasing if anything), so how exactly is this crossing some line? Even if SatAM had not been cancelled over ten years ago, do think it would have kept its status quo forever, with or without the newer game elements? That's hardly realistic.
Of course not...every comic evolves and changes with the times. But in this case, that evolution is not for the better. The constant additions and references make the core focus of the series scattershot at best, a bumbling convoluted mess at worst.
In your oh-so-humble opinion. =p
SONIC FAN FIGHT!!!!!
Seriously kids, good arguments can be made for both sides of this issue. In the end, which is better comes down to personal preference. If the comic's stories are so poor now a days, then why does it continue to be made?
It continues to be made, because it's one of Archie's best-selling comic books. And because it's relatively cheap to make.
lol... you do realize they have to pay licensing fees for their characters, right?
