Whoa, life changing action? What the heck is Ant planning?!?!

Wait, Fiona was a traitor working with Scourge all along? Why's she acted like she was a good guy when none of the other FFs were around then?

Lol...wonderful mini review (Do them some more). Hopefully we get a good reason as for why she's been working with Enviormental hog...

Life-changing action? he's gonna propose all right.

wow. fiona a traitor? sarcasm/no one saw that coming/sarcasm

Not surprised at all huh, HyperShadow, me not so much

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Wait, Fiona was a traitor working with Scourge all along? Why's she acted like she was a good guy when none of the other FFs were around then?

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Who cares?

Stupid love triangle and pointless new FF member ELIMINATED
History between the heroes, especially Sonic and Tails, and Scourge's gang SET UP

You know this will make Scourge's gang (really more like Finitevus' gang, but I call them that because we don't know what's going on with Enerjak) much more interesting in the future. Maybe fighting them would have more to it than just OH HEY SOME BAD GUYS BEAT EM UP. Before they were just Anti-Sonic and a bunch of henchman villains. They now have greater numbers (8, not counting Fintevus), and more knowledge of the main cast, which makes them match up better with the heroes.

Oh and Fiona suckering Tails like that and Sonic's retort to Scourge are just good writing.

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Me. Because it's seemingly a plot hole. Plot holes are bad.

Heh, you got it Torn.
Worth The Effort
Potto/Del Rio/Amash/Jensen

page 1: Early morning in Knothole. Birds are singing, crocs are sleeping, and JulieSu is knockin' on Amy's door
page 2: With our heroes busy it seems JulieSu has become Amy's personal... trainer. *ahem* First up is a jog but Amy is so tired
page 3: She wades right into the river. The cold shower is enough to make her come to her senses and worry bout important stuff. Like fashion.
page 4: Unfazed by the hedgie's wardrobe malfuntion, JulieSu moves on to the next stage. A balancing exercise on wooden platforms. Amy loses her footing
page 5: An JulieSu is quick to take avantage. She's about to kick Amy in the face when the young girl calls time-out. JulieSu wonders about Amy's sudden interest
page 6: in martial arts. Amy wants to be the best so she can keep up with Sonic. After all Knux an JulieSu are sparring partners. JulieSu says there's more to it than that
page 7: an that Amy should be training for her own sake and not just cuz she wants Sonic. Amy says Sonic isn't the only thing in her life, but isn't very convincing.
page 8: The girl chat is interupted when Sonic, Knux, and Tails arrive saying Eggman is up to no good. Let's find that Eggman and show him the real power of teamwork!

Also, TEH SCANNAGE!1! is up. Enjoy.

Why does Scourge refer to Amy as a potential love interest for Sonic? Maybe I'm looking WAAAAY too much into things but Sonic has never had a thing for Amy. Any dumbell could see that...or is this foreshadowing? Bahh, it's probably nothing. Alas gracis Puar for the scans. I must pick this up...or just get a subscription...

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Well, I'm sure Ian has some explanation in mind. In the comics Miss Puar posted, Fiona says she tried to be attracted to Sonic (after initially falling for Anti-Sonic in Ken Penders' madness), so maybe she wasn't a spy all along. So far we've had Fiona's past hinted at numerous times, and maybe she didn't like having to hide it, or Sonic's reactions, and switched over to Scourge AFTER Ian took over.

Oh, and I love that page. Nice art, and Scourge is really pushing some buttons, heh. Tornadot: Just because Sonic hasn't shown interest in Amy, that doesn't mean he wouln't take offense. She's still at least an acquaintance and a freedom fighter. Whether he's taking offense for more reasons, as Sonic X likes to hint, is up to interpretation and is a banned topic in this forum.

I seriously hope these "spoilers" are a joke...because if they are not, then I'm not resubscribing.

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Well, I'm sure Ian has some explanation in mind. In the comics Miss Puar posted, Fiona says she tried to be attracted to Sonic (after initially falling for Anti-Sonic in Ken Penders' madness), so maybe she wasn't a spy all along. So far we've had Fiona's past hinted at numerous times, and maybe she didn't like having to hide it, or Sonic's reactions, and switched over to Scourge AFTER Ian took over.

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Or maybe there's more to it than that, I mean look how fast she decides to go off with Scourge, and how (As Miss Puar describes) she starts to act towards everyone, there just something there that tells me there's more behind this sudden and quick change in her.

Being someone that's been reading the comic for over 13 years and sucrisber of the comic since #72 and basically a reader of all other major comics, I feel that over past 30 issiues, depending on who the writer was, that even though a whole lot of us kept asking ("Where did Fiona come from and when did she become a freedom fighter and when did she decied to fall for Sonic"), though the 30-plus issiues you really had to come to like who Fiona was, I mean here is someone with a dark mystious past, and yet she puts that aside to fight for freedom, and look at it this way she was willing to give info on Rouge and herself to the FF's and Chaotix, she even enjoyed Tails company as a friend.

But here's the real tip-off that there might be more to her "So-called betrayal" then meets the eye, if she was the only one in Knothole at the time to tell the difference between Scourge impersanting Sonic and the real Sonic, then maybe she's working both sides as a Double Agent for either Knothole Kingdom or Station Square.

And Besides all that this is IAN's writing we're talking about

Just have to wait and see.

You know, I've been asking those exact same questions about Fiona ever since the "Home" arc. She shows up as a FF after nobody has really seen her in years or even known about her except for Sonic, Mighty and Ray, and how or why she became a FF isn't questioned by anyone. Sonic doesn't even express some surprise in seeing her for the first time or ask when she joined the FFs or how she escaped from the original Robotnik's prison. He just accepts that she's there and moves on. While some may see it as a way of avoiding rehashed history told to us in Mighty's story, Sonic himself wouldn't know, thereby making his actions unfitting to his character. Couple that with Fiona getting displaced during the making out fiasco in #150 and a bigger continuity problem than I've ever seen has been created.

As for some of her motivations to this point, perhaps she still feels the need for vengeance on Sonic, Mighty, and Ray for abandoning her at the prison, and after meeting anti-Sonic, realized taking down the guy with the biggest head(ego) would be the easiest and harshest one to act on first

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i misinterprited that at first, thinking of what Sally (grr:"> ) did to poor Nack in HHH...

Haven't read it yet, but all I have to say at this point...

Shades of Sonic #28!

Nack getting hit in the crotch, I'll say once again was hilarious!

The whole betrayal thing feels...wrong, I guess. I don't get the impression that she's genuinely evil...perhaps a bit on the bad side, yes...and given how long she was with the FF's, for her to just suddenly turn (because of Scourge, no less) seems awkward.

So perhaps she IS a double agent. The question is, from where? Zonic, perhaps? If she knew she was dealing with a phony...

It seemed like she was even ready to confess in 166, before they got interrupted. Perhaps Sleuth spilled the beans, blowing her cover with Tails. She decided to keep going as long as nothing was said, but when Tails finally let the cat out of the bag and Sonic caught on himself, she went ahead and crossed over; after all, there's no explaining that mess without giving up all the details, or sacrificing what you had for the sake of the mission.

We know her story's not over, so it'll be interesting to see what they do with her from here on out.

Of course, he could've also simply awakened something she'd suppressed in joining the FF's, but that's still quite a backtrack...not to mention a feat putting her lower than Rouge.

Speaking of which...I get the impression Fiona and Rouge are going to square off at some point...if this is an elaborate secret mission, they might become partners...if Fiona's really gone bad, then perhaps it will be the crossroad for Rouge and her amoral career. We'll see.

I've been trying hard to stop laughing. And not just at Soopahsonic's icon of Sonic stuck head first on the wall...

I wanna know if I missed something. I think that the cover "Bunnie & Antoine Back Together" stuff shouldn't be there. I mean we only got a glimpse. Still, a marriage proposal might be on the way so ok.
I really liked Yardley!'s art in this issue. Major kudos.

My headliner is: "If you want it to be good girl, get yourself a bad boy!"

Fiona cheated on Sonic with Scourge. That's rich. I couldn't stop laughing for some reason. I know it's mean but well I have a weird sense of humor. The dialogue was also good and the way Sonic gets put down will go into my journal... What will the Knothole media say?

My two cents XD

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Yes and no. I would never lie bout what happens but this review is meant to be lighthearted and not give away too much. Rest assured, Ian explaines things better'n I do by far.

Fiona betraying sonic, i seen it from the beginning ever since fiona said that whatever scourge said he was lying, suspicion arose, never eally liked fiona anyways.

You know, now that I think about it...with that whole "mile away" thing we had going on, perhaps Fiona betraying Sonic was the most surprising ending. I mean, it seemed too obvious to be the case, right? So of course it would happen. XD

Still feel there's more to it, though...I mean, Scourge had to have dug up some pretty suppressed desires to make her negate her run with the FF's, though she seemed iffy down the stretch (makes you wonder who she was really talking about when she said, "Man-o-man, look at him go," in 161, since she'd never seen Scourge before).

Whatever the case, she's undoubtedly coming back. She should get that outfit she wore in 134...might make her look more intimidating as a baddie than a yellow-striped jumpsuit and bow. XD

Something else I wish to bring up...has there ever been a character that's been established as a good guy over a long period of time, then turned bad on their own free will?

Drago and Sleuth Dog are probably the closest you could get to that.

Saw this twist coming since the cover preview first came out...

It was probably established the minute she became Sonic's girlfriend.

So, not really anyone for long-term allies turned bad, then? I mean, they were pretty much established as evil the same issue/arc they appeared...

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Well, Draco was introduced in like 46 or so as part of the Wolf Pack FFs but was shown to be evil in the End Game arc; as a matter of fact, Draco's loyalty was questioned in the same issue of his intro so he was not much of one.

However, Sleuth was kinda of a long time good guy. Originally, he was a spy, who had a partner, forgot his name, that dressed as a Swatbots to get info from the late Robotnik Prime. The first time I saw him was in Sonic 38, my first issue was Sonic 30, where he was good. After looking at Sonic HQ's page of him, I found out he was introduced in # 26, and it wasn't until 41, wasn't it, that he was revealed as a traitor. So, I guess he was the only real long time ally that turned to the Dark Side, other than Fiona.

It would make sense then that Sleuth ratted out Fiona, then.

See, now here's the thing that interests me...what exactly was the damage of her being there, if she's really evil? I mean, with the exception of seeing Scourge, it seems like she didn't do anything beyond disappear, which means one of three possible things:

1) We'll get the damage report in a later issue,
2) She's duping both sides, or
3) This is a pretty lame betrayal

And I missed quite a few issues, but where's Zonic in all this?

I'd guess it would depend on how much is going on between the varying groups of enemies to know the extent of the "damage."

As for Zonic, I don't think he's been in the comic for years, but I kind of ignore his appearances as much as possible.

Well DA and TR, I still believe that there might be a Double Agent serniro to played out in all this sooner or later.

But today I was thinking that maybe, just maybe she's working for Zonic (Good thing you mentioned him Dark)
. cause what if she is luring Scourge into a trap by working with him to betray the FF's, and then he, Sonic, Tails and the rest of the FF's least expect finally capture and send him back to his world, cause think of it this way, maybe him being on Mobius Prime is causing everything to unblance and perhaps Zonic is having Fiona play to Scourge's two true weakenss, women and his ego.

And hey think of this as well, sometimes when someone is working as Double Agent or working both sides, the reactions that get from everyone else that don't know nothing have to genuine and very real.

I don't remember if I posted or deleted it, but I was thinking she might be working for Zonic, too.

Here's a thought...in 166, she was going to admit her double status to Sonic, to spare her having to betray both sides. When Sleuth arrived and spilled that she was going with Scourge (with Tails present to hear), she obviously couldn't explain what she was really doing at that point, and was probably hoping to finish what she was doing before she got caught. Since she did, she went ahead and burned her bridges for total effect.

But I suppose the next time we see her, we'll know for certain (or at least have a better idea) why she hung around. Again, better explanation needed.

I will agree on one pro-traitor thing...I'm glad Sonic/Fiona is over. There was never any chance of it lasting, and having both Fiona and Tommy gone means we can focus more on the core FF's again! b^-^d

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Fiona was a core Freedom Fighter, being a recurring Freedom Fighter that'd be gaining a lot of 'screen-time' and plot focus in recent issues.

By core, people usually refer to the SatAM group. Sonic and Tails are obviously going to get a good deal of focus automatically, so that leaves Sally, Antoine, Bunnie and Rotor (and, I suppose, Nicole).

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See, now here's the thing that interests me...what exactly was the damage of her being there, if she's really evil?

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1) We'll get the damage report in a later issue,
2) She's duping both sides, or
3) This is a pretty lame betrayal

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I think the issue here comes from people automatically associating her betraying Sonic to being a spy working against the FFs or something. This turn doesn't mean she was being evil all along... just that she was teetering on tendancies.

I mean, we've known for a good while now that she wasn't exactly sweet and innocent (some people would even say it was shown pretty blatantly). She'd more or less shown that she holds grudges in her first appearance, IIRC she'd been mildly reprimanded a couple of times for her actions as a FF (by Rotor and Sally?), she'd been hanging out with a bounty hunter and was into thievery and other underground/not-quite-legal activities - that should paint a pretty clear picture of the type of person she is.

Considering how much of her life was screwed up by Robotnik, I wouldn't find it hard to believe she joined the FFs - if not necessarily only for the greater good but for personal revenge. And then she fell for Sonic... or, as it turned out to be, Evil Sonic. Once he was gone, as she explains, she tried to find the same attraction in the real Sonic and thus turn over a new leaf (and psychotic as he is, even Bean, a past associate, found that hard to believe) - and as we now know, it didn't work out for her. Given her past and what we know of her, that shouldn't be too surprising. She started shirking her duties to hang out with the Sonic (Scourge) she found more fun. Obviously being a FF wasn't what she wanted at this point, so she broke it off. I wouldn't call her flat-out evil... but it's obvious she's got a thing for the darker side of life.

Basically, she's been acting of her own interest - being selfish and cruel doesn't equate handing the FF over to Eggman or anything. The final word on this incident doesn't come down to her screwing Knothole - she betrayed trust on a personal level rather than a "professional" one. Also, it's kind of nice to have another "dark" female character out there now, not to mention clear the room a bit in the Knothole roster.

On an unrelated note, the "you'd be just like me" exchange between Sonic and Scourge was awesome.

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So by core they don't mean the main group that gets the focus, they mean the old guys.

Pretty much. They mean the original small group that started things. They're generally still considered main characters, and the focus is only diluted by the number of characters running around.

And the prize goes to Crazy Cham Lea for putting it all together!

...and saving me from having to make the same explanation

I haven't read this issue yet, but it sounds quite good.

I haven't read it eather (except for the pages from Miss Paur and the Bumbleking forum) but from what I ave been hearing about it, it's kind of funny. First, we have a Fiona that turns out to be an evil robot, now the real Fiona that turns out to be more or less evil too.

Lea, I agree with you totally, though the whole situation seems bizarre still. I guess maybe it's because such a thing has never happened in the comic before, or at least not since Sleuth over a decade ago now. This also seems a lot more flimsy than that scenario as well.

The explanation given feels more as though she just finds Scourge more fun than Sonic...not that she couldn't shirk her own past and decided to ditch. It seems like a lame excuse to burn your bridges and bolt (then again, that's kinda how we got Darth Vader)...I think if she was having problems adjusting to being a Freedom Fighter, she would have been more vocal on that matter when bailing (sort of the way she hesitated when she said she was "a Freedom Fighter now" in 161...the possible turning point as far as reverting to her criminal days)

Not to mention the fact that Scourge spilled once already while Fiona denied it, only to have both of them admit it anyway later on. Why deny it at one point and not another, if she was already cheating? And why was she still there if she had already made up her mind? Makes me think she was using him for something, but no mention of it.

And if she has a thing for the darker side of life, is she really up for how dark the world of Dr. Finitevus is? Even Rouge wasn't up for that. XD

And yeah, I also think she'll make a better enemy/third party than an ally, anyway. Seems quite a few characters have been turned into silent background extras, and characters like Elias, Fiona and Tommy had more clout than Sally, Antoine (who hadn't spoken in the main story for what, 13 issues?), Bunnie, Rotor and even Amy. If Robert Altman wasn't dead, I'm sure he'd figure out a solution to this! XD

But in later issues the other characters will have more time in the spotlight, and that's always a good thing.

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I hope so.

Cra-Z just posted my reactions to this comic and the responses that people have made.

Here's the stuff I've been saying I'd like to see:

Core FFs & Chaotix
Ditch Fiona, Tommy, and perhaps Saffron
More classic SegaSonicness
Shake up the monarchy (looks like it's coming)
More use of Chaotix

So I like the direction of this comic. Besides just shuffling Fiona into the background, Ian's turned her into an antagonist, and I think she will be a very very good one because it's a personal antagonism between her and Sonic, Tails, and Amy. The dialogue in this issue alone shows why it's a good idea. Scourge made Evil Sonic a lot more interesting, and Fiona will put some much needed character into the Destructix if she joins with them.

That's actually one of the things I think I commented on a few issues ago when people were talking about characters that should stay or go. While I appreciate the need for a large gang like the Destructix to be a foil for the heroes, who even with core members only are quite numerous, some of them just aren't that interesting. Scourge and Fiona balance their numbers with the heroes more and put in a lot more opportunies for interaction other than punches or generic fight calls.

It is interesting, it sounds like Tails is more upset about Fiona turning on them than Sonic is. I agree with you for the most part, Veckums, about things I like to see in the comic, though the classic SegaSonicness I can take or leave as long as the FF's are not neglected.

True Red, I sent you a PM last Friday, just wanted to let you know in case you have not checked your inbox.

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I think Yardley is one of the best pencil artists doing the comic in quite a while. I really like his facial expressions! Did anyone notice a typo in one of the captions? The caption that says "Sally split with a slap in STH#132" is wrong. It was acctually 134 when she slapped him.

"I think Yardley is one of the best pencil artists doing the comic in quite a while. I really like his facial expressions! Did anyone notice a typo in one of the captions? The caption that says "Sally split with a slap in STH#132" is wrong. It was acctually 134 when she slapped him."

Oh yeah I noticed and actually had to go and check my stack to be sure. Glad someone else reads those captions.

DC, I saw it, I just haven't had time to devote to responding to it yet. ^^;

Thank you True Red. Hopefully, you will have time to reply soon, I am interested in reading your thoughts.

I finally got around to reading this issue, and I was quite impressed. It probably wasn't as good as the previous issue, but it does show hints of things which I like.

First of all, I'm starting to think that Scourge is one of the most interesting characters in the book. When he was introduced, I thought he was going to become a new E-List villain, but I see now that there's a lot more to him than that and he's actually one of the most interesting villains in the book. As has been said before, the showdown between Sonic and Scourge was a great moment. The Fiona betrayal was well-handled and so was Tails's reaction.

But this issue sort of belongs to Amy. If Amy's role is going to be increasing in the comic (and it looks like it might be), then I think this will be remembered as the issue where Amy really started coming into her own. In addition to the back-up story (which wasn't that interesting but was nevertheless probably important), Amy showed us what she's capable of in the main story. I'm glad to see her finally getting the spotlight she's been promised for a while.

Ian's managed to do quite a few good things here.

1. We finally figure out why she was suddenly interested in Sonic out of nowhere.
2. Even if it is a little muddled, we get a new villan in Fiona, who's become a much more intersting character under Ian's writing than the cardboard character she once was.
3. It's Amy's time in the spotlight. I think her actions in this issue put her in at #2 of Sonic's potential girls.

Did Spaz do the cover for this issue? I can't see the signature on the cover properly.