Whoa. I don't know what to say about Sonic 174.

Sonic X, however, makes me laugh my butt off at the cover.

EDIT: Wait, is the large black heart with the question mark actually part of the cover, or are they trying to keep us from seeing a major spoiler?

FYI, guys: Ian did not write Sonic X #19.

Sonic X issue 19 officially has the greatest Sonic comic cover in the history of forever. Amen.

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FYI, guys: Ian did not write Sonic X #19.

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Any idea who did?

Well, it seems to me as though Espio's been getting some pretty good roles lately. =D

I'd assume Joe is the writer as he was down for writing #18, unless someone else has been given the green light to write for Sonic X.

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Sonic X issue 19 officially has the greatest Sonic comic cover in the history of forever. Amen.

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Amen. I can appreciate that cover all the more since I just got back from Vegas.

And that might very well be the best StH cover we've had in a long time. Between Spaz's complex covers and Tracy's simple covers, its nice to have a happy medium.

IMO, the cover is being used to fool the more casual fan into thinking it might be Sonic & Sally getting hitched. But as we all know, that's not the case.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sonic and Sally will not be married. It's possible that they are the couple (not likely, in my opinion, but possible), but if they are then something will stop the wedding. Sega will not allow Sonic to wed.

I was thinking the #174 cover was quite good, though Sonic and Sally look like they're plotting to do something hideously evil, but OH MY GOD SONIC X IS GLORIOUS.

#174's cover kinda gives away that Sonic & Fiona aren't going to last...

It would be pretty nonsensical for them to even be engaged since they'd be back together a few issues at most. Antoine and Bunnie are the most likely but I don't see what Espio could find to screw up that wedding.

You've never read Jane Eyre, have you, Vec?

About 174: Looks like it's all coming to an end. Or is it? But I'm not even reading these comics anymore. So why should I care? But the other fans might pick on me for my views even more if it is sealed... Oh dear...

Oh wait... it's probobaly not Sonic, instead Bunnie and Antoine? Phew...

Wow, REALLY obscure reference there Dirk xD.

I didn't think it was THAT obscure.

SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #174
Written by Ian Flynn, Pencils by Tracy Yardley, Inks by Jim Amash, Cover by Tracy Yardley

"Union": It's the biggest event in Knothole yet as two Freedom Fighters make the ultimate commitment! Which two long-time lovers will finally tie the knot? More importantly, will the secret Espio learns undo the happy matrimony? It's wedding bells and warning bells in the lead-in to the big issue #175 special event!
32-page, $2.25 US. Shipping April 4th, 2007

Yes but who's to say Sonic, Amy, Sally, Knuckles, are not bridesmaids and groommens and hey Tails might be the ring-bearer.

Why are you quoting the entire post just to add a one-liner?

Good Piont Shadow Hog, so I went and edited it, better, i think so

i think he's mean the cover image has gotta go. It's already in the first post and for those with slow comps it's a pain for load-time.
This comic sounds like a keeper. While I'll cast my bets in the Ant/Bun camp I think it'd be hysterical if Rosie and Chuck are the mystery couple. Every writer needs at least one WTF moment in thier tenure (Romy had Tommy, Ken had Endgame, and Karl the Slap. Ian needs to join these illustrious ranks posthaste ^__~)

I think it will be Bunnie and Antione that will be getting married. I admit I have mixed feelings about it. I am happy for them and like them, but I think it made be too soon and they still may be too young. Also, I can't help but be a little bitter/sad that it can't be Sonic and Sally, though I am holding out hope that Sega can eventually be convinced to let Sonic and Sally get married at the end of the comic book series. I do think Sonic and Sally will be getting back together around this time.

Remember, they are the oldest of the FFs. Their ages were put at 17 (Bunnie) and 19 (Antoine) back in Sonic #90 or so (whenever it was mentioned in the letters page). So they're more than old enough factoring the "everyone's been aged by a year" aspect of Sonic #130. Besides, they're also the pairing that's been together the longest as far as "our" time goes. They've basically been together since #46 and their time apart had to do with "tricks," not changes between the two of them.

I might check this one out... This and 175 will probably be my last issues though...

I forgot about their ages, though Sonic is still 16 right? I don't like how it seems that the other FF's are allowed to grow up and Sonic is not. Sonic and Sally don't have to get married right away and shouldn't, they need time to repair their relationship. Eventually, though, I believe Sonic and Sally deserve to be, basically, happily married, just as much as Bunnie and Antione do. Still, having Bunnie and Antione get married soon, is a painful reminder (for me)that Sega will not allow Sonic and Sally to marry unless somehow(as I said earlier), Sega can be convinced to change their mind.

Now this is going to bring a lot of relationship talk around here.

I have mixed feelings since I was ready and hoping to see Bunnie as a bride and Sally as a bridesmaid. Now, I do agree that as much as I'm dying for the whole SS wedding, by the look on their faces they DO seem to be ploting something. Also, I agree with Miss Puar on her reply. Chuck and Rosie would be hillarious! Now that would be great. *Imagines a fanfic about it*

Can't they speed up time? When is this issue supposed to be coming out? Will I be notified when my subscription expires?

I've been expecting it to be Bunnie and Antoine too, but I would also laugh my butt off if it ended up being Chuck and Rosie. I've felt that Ian's stories needed more surprises and twists, so Ian pulling that one out of his butt would take the cake.

Sonic's age is up to personal interpretation. I personally interpret him as 17 (emotionally) & 18 (chronological), but anyone can see it how they wish as I believe that was point of Sonic #160.

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When is this issue supposed to be coming out? Will I be notified when my subscription expires?

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This issue should be out in the middle of April. Yes, Archie will notify you that you need to re-subscribe just before your subscription is about to end. They're good about that. I used to subscribe. 😉

I know everyone thinks it's Ant and Bunnie. But I'd like to share some points of discussion which came up in an AIM conversation between myself and EE on the topic of the wedding in this issue, and specifically the cover.

First of all, I pointed out that Ian's hints have suggested that we can almost certainly rule out Ash and Mina, because he doesn't focus on them as characters. Ethan pointed out that Ian has confirmed that the "?" censor will be removed from the final print, revealing the altar (or what have you, I'm gonna call it an altar).

I suppose we might therefore ASSUME that the couple is at the altar. This immediately rules out Sonic/Sally, Sonic/Fiona, and Knuckles/Julie-Su. Or... does it?

Can we REALLY be sure that that' Knuckles standing there? Look how he's dressed. His clothing seems a little more in line with something locke might wear. But, you argue, that's clearly not Locke. THe face looks different! AHA! I counter. Not so fast! Remember the preview cover of issue #51? Maybe you don't. Sally, if I recall correctly, was disguised to look like Hershey, so as not to spoil Sally's return. Locke's presence on the cover would certainly be a dead giveaway that the couple was Knuckles and Julie-Su. If it is Knux/Julie-Su, then the Espio connection seems more plausible because they're the only possible couple with whom Espio has any sort of relationship.

Another thing we discussed was the possibility that the couple might not be on the altar. Perhaps there's something else on the altar that we're not meant to see. Perhaps Sonic and Sally are the couple and the altar is vacant save for the authority who is going to marry them. Or (I thought of this one after the conversation) perhaps Fiona is in tears at the altar as Sonic flirts with Sally and Tails cheers that Fiona's open again?

Okay, maybe none of those possibilities are particularly likely. But when you think about the amount of romantic stuff that's about to go down in issue 172, anything is possible. Ant and Bunnie still seem the most likely, but I wouldn't rule out other possibilities.

Furthermore, keep in mind that for all we know, whatever couple might not go through with the wedding at all. If Knuckles or Sonic is involved, Sega would be unlikely to let them marry (M25yL is a different story) and even if it is Antoine and Bunnie, there are still surprises in store.

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I know everyone thinks it's Ant and Bunnie. But I'd like to share some points of discussion which came up in an AIM conversation between myself and EE on the topic of the wedding in this issue, and specifically the cover.

First of all, I pointed out that Ian's hints have suggested that we can almost certainly rule out Ash and Mina, because he doesn't focus on them as characters. Ethan pointed out that Ian has confirmed that the "?" censor will be removed from the final print, revealing the altar (or what have you, I'm gonna call it an altar).

I suppose we might therefore ASSUME that the couple is at the altar. This immediately rules out Sonic/Sally, Sonic/Fiona, and Knuckles/Julie-Su. Or... does it?

Can we REALLY be sure that that' Knuckles standing there? Look how he's dressed. His clothing seems a little more in line with something locke might wear. But, you argue, that's clearly not Locke. THe face looks different! AHA! I counter. Not so fast! Remember the preview cover of issue #51? Maybe you don't. Sally, if I recall correctly, was disguised to look like Hershey, so as not to spoil Sally's return. Locke's presence on the cover would certainly be a dead giveaway that the couple was Knuckles and Julie-Su. If it is Knux/Julie-Su, then the Espio connection seems more plausible because they're the only possible couple with whom Espio has any sort of relationship.

Another thing we discussed was the possibility that the couple might not be on the altar. Perhaps there's something else on the altar that we're not meant to see. Perhaps Sonic and Sally are the couple and the altar is vacant save for the authority who is going to marry them. Or (I thought of this one after the conversation) perhaps Fiona is in tears at the altar as Sonic flirts with Sally and Tails cheers that Fiona's open again?

Okay, maybe none of those possibilities are particularly likely. But when you think about the amount of romantic stuff that's about to go down in issue 172, anything is possible. Ant and Bunnie still seem the most likely, but I wouldn't rule out other possibilities.

Furthermore, keep in mind that for all we know, whatever couple might not go through with the wedding at all. If Knuckles or Sonic is involved, Sega would be unlikely to let them marry (M25yL is a different story) and even if it is Antoine and Bunnie, there are still surprises in store.

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Dirk you bring up some very good points, as a matter of fact the cover you talked about, as I read this, reminds of the cover of issiue 123, where they were asking about who's heart Sonic was going to choose between Sally and Mina and right there on the cover is Sonic flirting with Sally which gave us our answer right there.

But allow me to point some things out as well about the cover, most importantly, "Where's Bunnie and Antione?, second why are Amy's tears of happiness instead of saddeness?, and third who's to say Sally and Sonic aren't the maid of honor and best man, maybe Bunnie and Antione or "Who ever the couple is getting married" gave them those titles so they can also try to rekindled their lost love as well, and maybe Sally caught the flowers the bride threw, perhaps that's reason for the looks Sonic and Sally are giving each other on the cover.

But I will agree with you one thing though Dirk, That there will be some suprises, perhaps some we won't expect at all.

Hi, All.

I tried to answer the question about who wrote SX #19 yesterday, but for some reason, I could not log in from my hotel room. Back at home now, I am able to post.

For the record, I wrote "Muerta Las Vegas."

And that is one great cover (I wasn't getting graphic yesterday, either).

--Joe Edkin

No, Dirk. You just hit the nail on it though. Knux/Julie isn't the only couple Espio has a connection with. In fact, he just did something in #169 that affects the other couple Espio is directly connected to--Charmy & Safron. I never even thought of them until I read your post just now. It makes more sense for it to be them since they've been engaged since Knuckles #28. They have just been promoted to my choice of likely couple.

You may have something there Red, but the perview says "Freedom Fighters", and last I remembered, Charmy and Safron were Chaotix, not Freedom Fighters.

I didn't forget. The number of Freedom Fighter females is kind of thin, unless you consider everyone fighting for freedom from Eggman as a "Freedom Fighter," which is a different way of looking at the term. 😉

Good point, TR.

And bw, the Chaotix were once a group of "Freedom Fighters" much like the Wolf Pack or the Donwunda FFs or the Forty Fathoms FFs were "Freedom Fighters." The Knothole Freedom Fighters were never the only FFs. I believe that in issue #52, when Sally was talking to the leaders of FF groups from around the globe, Knuckles was one of them, which implies that the Chaotix were basically the Floating Island's resident group of FFs. For the moment, I'd see them as a subsidiary of the Knothole group.

I know I wouldn't like it if it was Sonic and Sally, or any other couple, and they didn't go though with getting married.

It's time to move Bunnie and Antoine's relationship somewhere... but I'm not going to rule out the other good possibilities laid out here.

btw, I think Sonic is 17 now. If I recall correctly, his birthday in #71 was his 16th, and the next time he celebrated a birthday was back when Evil Sonic became Scourge (the issue number escapes me now) so for the comic book's sake, that makes him 17, I guess that makes Sally and Rotor 18, with Bunnie being 19(?) and Antoine 20(?), and I think I caught them mentioning Tails being 11 a few issues ago. Hope that clears things up

Sonic's age is intentionally ambiguous. Because of his "few weeks" in space which were "a year" for Mobius, there are two questions to consider when asking about Sonic's age. First, how much time has passed on Mobius since he was born? Second, how much time has Sonic actually personally experienced? We don't know the correct answer to either of these and so we cannot say. The answer to both questions is more than 16 years, but probably less than 18.

Actually roach, Sonic would be technically 18 now taking into account the year Sonic was "tossed in space." Even though it felt like 6 months to him it still doesn't change the fact that a year has taken place making it 18 years since he's been born.

technically you'd be right, but what dirk is getting at is that he hasn't Personally experienced that. which doesn't really matter but it is true.

Well, when I typed my post, hyper, Dirk hadn't posted, yet so I didn't read what he said, but like you said it doesn't matter. Experience wise he may be 16 and a half, but he's technically 18 in accordance with his birth certificates that is if Knothole has them.

I've been trying to wrack my brain thinking of other couples it could possibly be besides the obvious Antonie and Bunnie -- which I think is the most likely -- and Saffron and Charmy. The only idea I could come up with was that maybe it would be between Uncle Chuck and Rosa. Uncle Chuck could be considered a Freedom Fighter since he functioned as a Mole during the first war against Robotnik and Rosa was usually in Knothole Village even if the story usually forgot her.

However -- the story says that this is one of the biggest events Knothole Village has ever seen and unless Uncle Chuck and Rosa really know how to party down I don't think it was be *that* big of an event. Also, although this pairing was hinted at in that one story Dub helped touched up that got Katrina'd, it really hasn't been dwelled on too much so it would be kinda..."By the way, Brother, Nepwher, Sister in law -- I'm marrying this chick!"

About the Espio thing...Espio could have like found videos of Robotic Sir Charles doing something horrible to some of Rosa's familly members back when he didn't have controll over her mind...But Espio wouldn't be that much of a Wedding Crasher, would he? To come running in waving tapes of attrocitices the groom commited against his will?

Third Edit: Also, I wouldn't feel right about Sonic marrining anyone. I'm usually anti-young marriage in the real world but the animals of Mobious have gone through some pretty extraordinary things in their time so it dosen't feel as troubling to me. However! I really don't think Sonic is mature enough for a marriage yet...Give him another five years or so to ferment.

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though Sonic and Sally look like they're plotting to do something hideously evil

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**coughweddingnightcough**

Ok, in mostly seriousness, being that the Chaotix (to my knowledge) have more or less set up camp in Knothole, Espio could have just found out that Eggman was attacking minutes before the wedding even began. That might ruin things just a bit for any couple.

I've been very pleased with Ian's writing so far, so, for once, I'm just going to leave this to him and relax until I pick up my issue.

Oh, and SX19 kicks @#$. Most definitly my wallpaper of the week for me. **bows to almighty Spaz**

EDIT: Oh crud. This better not turn out like "Wedding Bell Blues". Once is ok back in the good old days, but now...? Please, for the love of sanity, no.

That is all. Returning to trusting Ian to do the right thing.

I don't think it is, remember Ian's here to tye things up not retro things up

After a week of classes I came in and after reading all the options you guys came up with I can come to a conclusion. I'M CONFUSED! Well, the one theory about Sally catching the wedding bouquet sounds reasonable. I still go for the whole Bunnie and Antoine up at the altar. Hope the issue is good. I too am pleased w/ Ian's writing. And lol at

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Thanx for the subscription info (I think it was True Red)

I'm pretty sure there will be some major plot twist. After all, the next issue is 175.

Although it's possible that someone at Archie's been silly enough to take notice of the griping that Knux and Julie not being married in M25YL will somehow cause Mobius to go up in a pillar of hellfire and Lara-su to be ostracised by whatever's left of the populace, I'd like it to be Ant and Bunnie.

Even disregarding the back-up story we've been discussing, they're the longest-running and most stable of the couples on offer. I remember one of the writers (I think it was Karl) saying back when issue 100 was in the planning that if there was going to be a wedding then, it'd be those two. But Archie still thought that they were too young and it might look irresponsible.

Even if the trainwreck that is Sonic and Sally were together at the moment, I don't see a matrriage on the cards. Timescale and age notwithstanding, Sega licensing just wouldn't stand for it.

Not to mention that by the time #174 comes around, Ant and Bunnie will have been together for pretty much exactly 10 years. Considering in all that time the only status change they've had was the disastrous anti-Ant debacle, I'm very much looking forward to things going well for them.

That being said, I'd love a Chuck/Rosie wedding too =p

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it's possible that someone at Archie's been silly enough to take notice of the griping that Knux and Julie not being married in M25YL will somehow cause Mobius to go up in a pillar of hellfire and Lara-su to be ostracised by whatever's left of the populace

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I'd forgotten all about that griping.

Why did you have to remind me about it?

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That being said, I'd love a Chuck/Rosie wedding too =p

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I forgot about that. It'd duck all of the teen controversies, too. 🙂

Speaking of Knux and Juile-Su, I have never understood why Sega would approve of them having a child out of wedlock. Even if it is only a possible future, why would they have Knux being immoral? Knux and Juile-Su are another couple I want to see get married, if they are going to have a child. Also, why does it seem like Sega thinks that Knux or Sonic and study girlfriends and/or future wives would somehow ruin their image. Speaking for myself, I would think better of Sonic if his relationship with Sally was stable, and I do think less Knux for even the idea that he could(at some point)have a child out of wedlock. I don't exspect them to be perfect, but I do exspect better from them in how they theat women.