The line of Rosemary and Amandus that pretty much said "we end this tonight" was kinda ominous IMHO.
Well, the Archie guys are just trying to present a plot that creates a tense situation for the gang that a villain isn't behind, for a change-unless theories of alien influence on the Prowers turn out to be correct. We, as readers, get more in depth with what's going on than the writers do, because while they're just writing a story, we think about all the issues facing such plots. Sure, it makes us seem like weirdos, but that's how it is.
Regardless of whatever is gonna happen, it's NOT gonna be pretty.
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By the way, whoever said that Archie made Bunnie four years older, that was AMY. Also, when did they make Alexis Elias' step-daughter? Sounds lame to me; Meg and Elias were probably old enough at the time that it wouldn't be a teen pregancy.
Bunnie was retconned from being 14 to 18 when they decided to make her a love interest for Antoine - check earlier issues and she's described as being about 14, nowadays she's 17-19 somewhere - quite a drastic age jump, even with Sonic's year away.
Alexis was originally designed as Elias' son in, I think, #120 when we saw him for the first time after he ran away in #102(?). He/she was retconned to be Elias' step-daughter in #155/#156, which to be honest I think is a good idea - Elias would have known Meg for a month, tops, by #120, there's no way she'd be pregnant to him already.
I always found the baby ret-con to be gratitous and cheap myself.
Alex, on the subject of incorrect names, it's also AMADEUS, not Amandus.
And Spectre, you again take the words out of my mouth. I had martial law in my last comment, then omitted it.
Where I'm coming from, I see Amadeus demanding Elias step down...given that's we're talking immediate, it would seem logical that Amadeus take his place. However, going back to Amadeus' comment in jail, he'd be hypocritical to take over and gear everyone up for war...heck, they don't even want a CIVIL war, much less to get the battle with Robotnik going again.
And that's probably why they're looking to end it now. If they lay low while tensions are as high as the Prowers made them, the situation could get out of hand.
Of course, stepping back a bit, we've still got the Black Arms, who may be swinging over to Mobius for a visit...this could very well have something to do with them, but it feels far too domestic to say so.
Having it turn out to be an outside source behind this would be WAY too Ken Penders.
I wonder though... how are they gonna passify the 50% who DO want a Monarchy? When they had the revolution in America, the loyalists were free to move to Canada, where can these loyalists move to?
Seems like Sonic only has a problem with Amedaes's methods, but does not seem to disagree with his motives.
Thanks for beating me to the corrections, Matt (Bunnie was originally one year younger than Sally, just for the record).
But it seems that someone's edited their post to cover their tracks - just out of curiosity, who were you correcting? 🙂
Whoever it was: there was no need to get snitty about that. Turn the caps lock off, please. 🙂
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Obviously, the right compromise here would be for New Mobotropolis to become a Constitutional Monarchy, with a Parliament of the people and the Royal Crown still having a measure of authority, with each group counterbalancing the other...
That would be the most logical and peaceful way to go.
But damn it, this is a Sonic comic, so that compromise better happen after a big punch-up or ten. 
Not necessarily. What you get through that system is something like the House of Commons and the House of Lords in the UK, where it can work if the two act as checks and balances on one another, but there has to be primacy of the one chamber over the other, and the Lords is free to run around with a protectionist attitude for its own interests.
And with Elias listening to whoever shouts loudest, Max being Max and no guarantee that his descendents'll be any saner, I'm happier with "One Mobian, one vote".
Ack...I like Elias but he's just such a pansy. He basically gives into Max's outrageous demands without much of a protest.
I find it funny how cool and calm Mogul is, even in jail. No doubt he's scheming again, waiting to regain his power. Part of me actually likes it...
"That would be the most logical and peaceful way to go.
But damn it, this is a Sonic comic, so that compromise better happen after a big punch-up or ten. "
I can't believe we agree on something. I just Sonic and Tails friendship SURVIVES this insanity.
Not sure if this has been stated yet, but I'll give the warning anyway: Apparently one of this issue's data files (the castle, I think) gives away the ending of the entire story arc, so don't go reading if you don't want to be spoiled.
I hope I'll get the issue in the mail soon.
Hold up...wait...oh SNAP.
Reading that...I can't think of any other revolution in Acorn's history...
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And with Elias listening to whoever shouts loudest, Max being Max and no guarantee that his descendents'll be any saner, I'm happier with "One Mobian, one vote".
They already have that.
Elias' dad is the man, and he's got the vote.
I was wondering if anyone'd say that. 😉
Is there anyone who wants the monarchy to stick around? It seems to me that the only split seems to be between complete democracy or a compromise. And speaking of the bio pages, Tommy Turtle Memorial Hospital. 
Dang...you may be right on that Nel. A big whoops if that's the case. X_x
God damn, even in death, that turtle still haunts this comic.
But jeez, we're talking about this event like its real politics. Wow, Ian got goin on!
I'm surprised there's nothing for Sir Connery. The guy gave his freakin' life to save the world from Mogul.
almost sounds like it's moving towards knux being enerjak... still not sure if i like that. guess we'll still see how it goes
regarding the main story, it sounds good so far, and after reading some of the reasons behind the Prowers' behavior, i'm inclined to agree with them. The monarchy has been pretty useless against Robotnik's advancements. It's consistently fallen to the FF to keep the kingdom intact. Especially now with the source of all being destroyed, the monarchy really has lost all sense of purpose. i'm thinking democracy is gonna win this battle
And with Elias listening to whoever shouts loudest, Max being Max and no guarantee that his descendents'll be any saner, I'm happier with "One Mobian, one vote".
Just as long as it doesn't end up being, "He is THE Mobian, and he has THE Vote".
You guys have all managed to make some good points. However this whole story arc turns out, it's not going to be pretty. We can only hope that Amadeus and Elias can come to some sort of agreement, either through changing the system of government to a constitutional monarchy or a democracy or through reform of some kind. There are other
Of all the characters who share the blame in this situation, the big guy I think is Max. He doesn't seem to realize that, while it's okay for him to give Elias advice, he shouldn't be trying to mold him into what he sees as the best king. Max has, at times, seemed like a pretty smart guy; surely he realizes that Elias has to take his own approach to ruling and make his own decisions.
Perhaps the root of Amadeus' bone to pick with the House of Acorn is that Max came back after being trapped in the Zone of Silence and tried to fight Robotnik the same way he fought the Overlanders during the big war way back when. Robotnik has better technology and is a heck of a lot smarter than the Overlanders who commanded their armies in the last war-after all, he was the guy who tipped the scales and allowed the Kingdom of Acorn to win-and so Max needs to think of new and better ways to confront him. He also needs to poke a few holes in his ego and realize that he's not infallible.
I agree that Amadeus and Rosemary being influenced by an outside force sounds dumb. They've been through enough crap; alien mind control shouldn't be in there too. Besides, the Black Arms and the Xorda are too busy trying to kill each other to worry about a planet on the other side of the galaxy at the moment. Besides, Amadeus and Rosemary make a nice contrast to Jules and Bernie, who despite being old friends of Max like Amadeus presumably is have ignored his errors in judgement.
Knuckles' departure definitely spells trouble, even if he doesn't end up being the new Enerjak. Of course, I rather approve; he's not going to end up caught in the madhouse that New Mobotropolis is sure to become before this whole thing is over. Plus, Enerjak's rise may have a major impact on the division amongst the citizens-faced with such a threat as that, they'd likely put aside their differences long enough to deal with it. Hopefully, though, they'll just resolve the whole thing-the last thing I want to see is the Kingdom of Acorn turning into China/Taiwan.
Going back to the deal with Alexis, I didn't know that Elias had only been together with Meg for a month or so. For all I knew-not being the owner of that comic line, unfortunately-they could have been together for half a year. Still, I do think that Alexis should have been Elias' biological child. When will the good guys actually start having kids?
When at least more than the one married couple're legal in most US states, I should think. 🙂
And even in the legal case, I don't think that Neo-Mobotropolis is an environment that front line fighters like the FFs'd want to bring children into right now, anyway - they lost their own families to Robotnik, so I doubt that they'd risk leaving someone else holding the baby whilst they're out trying not to get squished by Robotnik's latest war machine, and risk leaving their children without them.
While a straight Monarchy suffers from some serious flaws (and I would not want to live in one), both Max and General Prowler in their arguements for and against are forgetting one thing: the king is NOT his father nor his grandfather.
This comment is for NelStone. I havent gotten my copy yet since the stores are so slow and I dont know when my subscription will start but as to what you said about the 'end' of the story arc being in the data pages: please tell me what it says or how it says the arc ends? email me if you need too but I really wanna know!! I dont mind if it gets spoiled for me I wanna know how this ends hehe.
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When will the good guys actually start having kids?
Mobius: 25 Years Later.
Also, Sam, it was Spectre I was correcting about Bunnie and Alexis, but his post is (unedited) on the second page.
And I'm not buying that Tails would so readily and quickly back his father. I know he's been frustrated with Sonic a lot lately...but Sonic has been more like family to Tails than the Prowers. To see that kinship dissolve so suddenly just seems...not right.
While I can't say anything about your preference over how long it should take for them to start a revolution (felt just right to me) I can say this...
As others have said in this article, Tails has been wanting a family his whole life. Now, he finally has his parents back, and not only are they extremely loving, compassionate, and kind towards him, but they are the parents he's always dreamed of having. It is not at all out of the question for Tails to side with his own parents rather then his friends.
The kinship has been under tremendous strain for over 20 issues, ever since Sonic started doing stuff with Fiona. He's had a couple emotional out bursts,over this, and Sonic rarely does anything to comfort him. In short, he's an (cussword) to him.
Sonic said something very bad at the end of 178, that would have had Tails on top of him no matter what their relationship was in the past. Sonic completely deserved it, and it was very fitting.
Sonic didn't deserve to get attacked from behind by his best friend.
Nelstone,please check your PM box. I sent you a question about this issue. Or anyone who has this issue, please spoil the clue about the outcome of this story. I don't mind being spoiled.
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Sonic didn't deserve to get attacked from behind by his best friend.
Perhaps, but Sonic REALLY took their friendship for granted, something he couldn't have made any more evident than the comment that got him blindsided.
It's probably just me, but has anyone else been disgusted with Sonic in the last few issues? I'm surprised it's taken this long for Tails to finally snap. The kid has a lot more patience that I do.
Regardless of how this arc turns out, I get the feeling that there's going to be some big plot bunnies coming out of this for fanfic writers.
Sonic didn't deserve to get attacked from behind by his best friend.
Yes, he did. Especially with how he's been acting since the 150s. He's completely taken Tails friendship for granted. He has done very little to comfort Tails or try to settle things with him. He hasn't done anything to alleviate the strain his actions have been putting on their friendship.
Then he tells his own parents that he'll "get over" putting his dad back in prison because he raised him and they didn't.
As Tails said as he punched him "Get over yourself!" Sonic really needs too.
Betheny, DC, I don't actually have the issue, I'm just passing along what I've heard. Someone here who already has the issue could inform you, but I won't know the spoilers until I get it myself, heh.
Sorry.
Thanks NelStone, hopefully someone has it heh. As for being disgusted with Sonic you will admit that in the last issue he DID at least do something non selfish. during the fight with Robotnik he at least acknowledged his friends and how they can fight as well. One thing like that unfortunatly doesnt fix something like this and frankly from what people told me sonic deserved to get some sense knocked into him. As for that comment that he apparently says about Tails dad, prison, and the whole raising issue, my god, can you get any more insensitive?
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Spoilers (Select To Read): The seat of the monarchy and yadda yadda yadda. Since the revolution it also acts as the primary meeting place for the Acorn Council. The councelors all have their offices and optional residences within Castle Acorn.
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i definately think that that's the first we've ever heard of that.
Yeah, I both want and believe that the revolution is going to happen. I just hope that they make some sensible choices for the council. Amadeus is a given, but if they put Sonic on just cause he's the hero and all, that'd be one stupid move. Just a random fact- I was listening to the Hedgehog Heaven remix online, and the name for the re-mixed Casino Night Zone theme is also House of Cards.
I think the first King Acorn is in tears seeing what's happening at this moment.
"He dead."
"Could be anywhere then-!" - Dark Cyrstal
One has to wonder why the Source wasn't able to fortell that all of this would happen. Of course "the Source" is nothing more than a pool of gold gloop.
It's a pool of nothing more than eradicated gold gloop...and I think we can all be happy for that. Between that and the Soultouch, these metaphysical...things don't seem to work all that well...
Not to mention, SU, that the Source has either been destroyed or is now inaccessible.
Anyway, as I've said before, Sonic has had a lot of trouble with his friends since he got back from space. First and worst was his little row with Sally after the "Home" storyline. Without breaking the romantic taboo, Sonic placed his long-running conflict with Robotnik above Sally's worries for his safety. As a result, their friendship suffered a serious blow, one that they'll need to reconcile at some point.
In Tails' case, Sonic demonstrates a quality that has long been obvious in him: he's an opinionated jerk. When Sonic makes a decision about something, he adamantly refuses to accept any other point of view. This is one of the big reasons why Tails and he were left off fighting each other: Tails had found a new ideal, and Sonic's own clashed with it.
Of course, I'm not saying Tails doesn't hold some blame. He could have approached Sonic to make amends after their relationship got tense with the whole Fiona situation, but he didn't and neither did Sonic. Not only that, but as Tails grows older it becomes clear that his "hero worship" of Sonic has diminished. Where once Sonic was his idol, he has now come to see him as an insensitive idiot. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if, deep down, Tails harbors some jealousy towards Sonic. It's what started off the Tails mini-series: Tails is tired of being treated like a kid, of being pushed aside while Sonic claims all the glory, and now he's more than willing to put the Blue Blur in his place.
Personally, while I hope that their friendship will recover from this, I think Tails should beat the snot out of Sonic. Sonic's speed has always made him so high and mighty: only Chaos powered beings, super robots, and a handful of Mobians with similar levels of speed or strength have been able to defeat or even match him in hand to hand combat. Tails has never demonstrated fighting ability to match Sonic, but it would be incredible if he succeeded in knocking some sense into his friend. A few punches to the head might just deflate Sonic's ego. :mwahaha:
The First Book of Matthias, called Sega Genesis:
And Tails talked with Sonic his brother:
and it came to pass,
when they were in the field,
that Tails rose up against Sonic his brother,
and slew him.And the Goddess said unto Tails,
Where is Sonic thy brother?
And he said, I know not:
Am I my brother's keeper?
Well, maybe not to that extreme.
The adolescent in me that used to read this comic just screamed, "About damn time!"
~Tobe
Yeah...Pxsphile, I think that's taking things just a little too far.
It is past time that Sonic and Tails worked out their problems-though trying to beat each other to a pulp probably wasn't the best way to do it. Of course, with characters like these, sometimes there's no better remedy than a few good kicks to the head.
To anyone who's got the comic, does it show any reaction from the Chaotix as to what they feel about Knuckles going off on his own?
"A few punches to the head might just deflate Sonic's ego. :mwahaha:"
Or just destroy their friendship, make them unable to work together, and crush their simitry.
It really does feel like the deck has been stacked against Sonic ever since he came home.
And weather the good general and king made to terms or not, the damage between Sonic and Tails won't be repaired by it, unless one of them gets a clue and STOPS, this is ONLY going to end in tears.
So Tails beats Sonic, so what? He got beaten to a pulp by Robotnik and saw his home burned to the ground. And Tails is gonna find himself cheered on by the bad guys, not something anyone would enjoy.
As Ian said, Sonic is hardwired to bounce back, though the spring might be reaching it's break point.
Seriously, while this might have been building up, I PRAY that this fight actually is stopped before a loser is decided.
Julie Su is the one who puts up the fuss and protest while the others seem to understand what Knux has to do...essentially damage control.
Not to go off the subject or anything. But have any of you noticed that on the one page where Tails told M. Mogul off by saying. (To leave his dad alone!) That he's missing his two fox tail's.
Plus there's three other things that I've noticed, (The first one is about Sonic's car like bed.) I mean Holly Mobius he's 16 to 18 years old and still has a little kids bed!? And the second and third thing's that I found real funny was when Nicole showed up in Sonic's room. And scared him so badly, that Sonic jumpped a good two maybe three feet out of his bed just from the looks of it. And the other one was the joke that Bean started and it was Amadeus Prower that finished it up with the punch line.
