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(@adamis01)
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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #180
"Preparations for War": Enerjak, the ultimate evil, is reborn! His return may result in an unlikely alliance as Sonic and Eggman consider a truce. at least one long enough to prevent the destruction of the entire planet!
PLUS: "Sonic Rush Adventure": Straight from the thrilling new Sonic video game of the same name, Sonic and Tails embark on an action-packed adventure and face a mysterious new threat! SCRIPT: Ian Flynn. ART: Tracy Yardley (pencils & cover) and Jim Amash (inks).
Ships September 19th, 2007
On Sale DDC September 26th, 2007
On Sale Newsstand October 9th, 2007
32-page, full color comic
$2.25 US


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SONIC X #24
"Camera Hog": When Sonic, Knuckles, Amy and Tails give an entertaining and astonishing demonstration of their amazing abilities on Station Square TV, Eggman is watching! Actually, he does more than watch - a mysterious new robot he has created downloads all of their abilities. along with a few extra talents it witnesses. Of course, Eggman plans to send the souped-up robot out to destroy our star-struck heroes. Can Knothole Village's media darlings possibly defeat an enemy that does all they can do and more?
SCRIPT: Tracy Yardley. ART: Tracy Yardley (pencils) and Terry Austin (inks). Don't-touch-that-dial cover by Tracy Yardley and Terry Austin!
Ships September 5th, 2007
On Sale DDC September 12th, 2007
On Sale Newsstand September 25th, 2007
32-page, full color comic
$2.25 US


 
(@erinaceus)
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So Ian plans to introduce that yet-to-be-named raccoon girl from Sonic Rush Adventure into STH...probably for another one-time appearance ala Blaze.

Anyone who knows me can probably guess how I feel about that...

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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Sonic #180: Return of Enerjak! Yay! But why do we get an adaptation of Sonic Rush Adventure and no Sonic06 adaptation? Does anybody think the cover on this looks very SonicX-like? I wish it had some sort of background... it's too bland.

SonicX #24: Why does the description mention "Knothole Village"? Neat robot, though. looks like a combo between Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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So Ian plans to introduce that yet-to-be-named raccoon girl from Sonic Rush Adventure into STH...probably for another one-time appearance ala Blaze.

Anyone who knows me can probably guess how I feel about that...


It would have happened regardless of who was writing. Complaining won't do anything.

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SonicX #24: Why does the description mention "Knothole Village"?


Because the people who write these previews have no idea what they're doing, that's why.

 
(@roach2003)
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I hope they at least take the time to explain Enerjak's resurrection and what this all means. It would also be inappropriate for Enerjak to be dealt with all in one issue. If they do that it would be an insult to him and us. He was only numero uno villain in the Knuckles comic.

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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Holy! Besides illustrating the art and the cover, Tracy Yardley wrote the script for Sonic X #24! That's awesome!

 
(@darkest-light)
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Energak back first makes me go "YES!!" Then I take a moment, and sit back.

This is not good. No offense. and of course we can't see the future. But...Energak's ressurection-reambiguation into a body HAS to be explained. I'm not going to be happy with a one panel explanation.

Finetivus is all over this, I know, but I would like to know to what extent. And what of Lien-Ka. I can't believe she's too happy about this. In fact...why would she let this occur?

Side note: When $%&^^ hit the fan, Matthais ported everyone to a hidden Zone, and the Brotherhood are plotting their comeback once the time is right. n_n.

 
(@chaorcute)
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Does anybody think the cover on this looks very SonicX-like? I wish it had some sort of background... it's too bland.


You're right. They shifted the styles. STH has Sonic X cover style and vice versa. Dosen't that robot have powers ala Emerl? *Removes silver coating* Egad! It's orange!
It must be Emerl. There is hardly much of an explanation; thanks to Yardly. Hey: hardly-Yardly. Hmm...
If not, then it still looks like a combo of Sonic/Tails/Knuckles.
Eggman-I hereby dub thy, Sonailes!

 
(@toby-barrett)
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It's got Amy's spines.

 
(@veckums)
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Wow, Archie actually got SEGA intel before the internet. Is that a first?

When Sonic, Knuckles, Amy and Tails give an entertaining and astonishing demonstration of their amazing abilities on Station Square TV, Eggman is watching!

So it gets flight tails, knuclaws, super running, and... Amy's spines? Unless they're pulling the fortune teller thing, what WOULD it get from Amy? Is it going to start chasing Sonic around endlessly and demand to marry him? SEGA keeps trying to turn the big 3 into the big 4 with Amy, and I know they want a female main character, but why do they have to pick the most airheaded and non-powerul female in the entire series? It's just making Amy more obviously the token girl. The only story I've ever liked Amy in was her comic relief role in Sonic Battle.

 
(@ehh123)
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What surprises me is that Tracy did the covers of both comics. I guess Spaz is either has his hands full on covers for "Sonic Archives" or is working outside of Sonic for a little while to broaden his work. By the way, both of the covers shown here are not final copies.

 
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Hammer? @ Vec

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Betcha Enerjak gets whooped by the end of #181 XD

 
(@lightsonic)
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Ohhh #180 is gonna be awesome, can't wait to see Finitejak! :^^

 
(@ehh123)
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We tecnikly don't don't if it is Dimitri or Dr. Finitevus. we will just have to find out.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Several points I love about these spoilers, for both comic.

1) Floating Island. <3

2) Dr. Fini. <3

3) ENERJAK. <3

4) That robot on the cover to Sonic X. <3

 
(@erinaceus)
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It would have happened regardless of who was writing.

Would it have? I would have figured Sega would have given Archie writers the option of whether to do a tie-in, or ignore it. And for the sake of sales, Archie probably decided to do the first.

 
(@matt7325)
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No... Sega tells Archie to do an adaptation, and they do it - there's no two ways about it, and it has been that way from the very beginning of the comic's run. Stop assuming that every little bit of SegaSonic related content is Ian's deliberate decision to actively run SatAM into the ground.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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The comic is a marketing tool, and Sega have a game to promote. Sega can tell Sega to take something out or put something in at will, as far as I know (hence Sally's death having to be retconned after Endgame) - but they definitely have the power to force Archie to advertise their new products, and have done before.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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completely ignoring the topic changing wannabe sega basher,

ENERJAK!!!!!! omg it's been too long. hopefully he sticks around for more than two books.

seriously ian said the villain count would rise, but sonic himself said that it's on the decline. so i really hope that this plot isn't wrapped up in a few issues robotnik doesn't have to be the only constantly active bad guy.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Now, now, let's not forget that those badguys who were locked up in Knothole are now back on the loose.

Nack. <3

 
(@hypershadow77)
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a severly depowered mogul and naugus. the destructix which could probably take on tommy turtle, but fail against everyone else. and nack aren't really that threatening, even together at this point. but who knows, maybe they'll surprise me in the next few issues.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Dr. Julian Ivo Eggman Robotnik is all we ever need. <3

 
(@pc-the-hedgehog_1722585862)
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I dunno about you guys, but having Enerjak as a giant floating head in a bubble doesn't really sit well with me.

Though I have to say, that would be kind of funny.

I didn't expect to get a Sonic Rush Adventure adaptation. What a plesant surprise. I'm guessing the odds of Ian giving us any game spoilers are out of the question...:P

Plus, Tracy writing a Sonic X comic! That's just the icing on the cake!

A good month, that will be.

 
(@the-eggpire)
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Tracy writing a Sonic Comic. How are we supposed to know if that is a good thing? Has he written on it before? Also where did all the artists go? It seems a lttle much for the poor guy. I mean come on he is penciling both issues and writing one! How long will it be before he finally gives out and the quality of his work starts to decline.
And all I got to say about Enerjak is "that's very interesting! uh-huh! Yes it is!"

 
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Dr. Julian Ivo Eggman Robotnik is all we ever need. <3


uhh, yeah, for sonic X. but archie needs variety.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Maybe in your opinion, it does. =p

 
(@hypershadow77)
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enjoy sonic X then

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Already do, but that's beside the point. Maybe Enerjak will wipe out the echidna population while he's at it, that'd be nice.

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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Not really. The most forgotten very sizeable echidna population on Mobius is in Albion. Of course, the echidnas there want the ones on Angel Island to relocate to Albion... so it's understandable that they aren't helping out much with Angel Island's current issues. Besides, if Enerjak is anything like the original one, wiping out the echidnas isn't going to be the goal--just subjugating the entire planet.

IF Dimitri did become Enerjak again (which I have a hard time believing is going to happen), the fact that he's a floating head wouldn't matter. Remember, Enerjak didn't look exactly like Dimitri (recognizable, but not exact). He was taller and could probably make himself look however he wanted (if he'd had the imagination). Also, the title of the story is a strong indicator that this isn't going to end in one issue. I'm going with a general resolution by #183. ;p

 
(@lonewolf23)
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"Energak back first makes me go "YES!!" Then I take a moment, and sit back.

This is not good. No offense. and of course we can't see the future. But...Energak's ressurection-reambiguation into a body HAS to be explained. I'm not going to be happy with a one panel explanation."

There's a number of ways they could do it.. Surge of Chaos energy allows Dimitri to make a new body out of raw matter; Dimitri becomes a disembodied being of pure Energy; Finitivus makes Dimitri a new robot body capable of channeling Chaos energy; Finitivus transfers Dimitri's brain into a body cloned from Knuckles' DNA...

 
(@darkest-light)
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Yeah but...at least make it one page. Not one panel. That's my gripe LoneWolf n_n .I don't care if Space Bees get controlled by Chaos Energy and form into Energak ala Galactus, but make it a page.

 
(@erinaceus)
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No... Sega tells Archie to do an adaptation, and they do it - there's no two ways about it, and it has been that way from the very beginning of the comic's run. Stop assuming that every little bit of SegaSonic related content is Ian's deliberate decision to actively run SatAM into the ground.

I never said Ian was doing it deliberately. You are putting words in my mouth. What I was saying was that I'd assumed Sega oftentimes gives them the option of whether or not to include a new game into a continuity, and Archie subsequently chooses whether or not to go along with it. Maybe I assumed incorrectly...but there is evidence to back me up. We've never seen direct adaptations of Sonic Heroes, Shadow (only an indirect reference), any of the Sonic Advance games, Sonic Rivals, Sonic and the Secret Rings...the idea to make Sonic #25 a Sonic CD adaptation came from Spaz at Archie, not by an order from Sega, etc...

Maybe there was an order from Sega, maybe there wasn't. The only one who can answer that for certain is Ian.

completely ignoring the topic changing wannabe sega basher

Actaully, in this case, I'm giving them more credit than you are by not assuming they are supreme dictators (emphasis on the "dic"), and forcing adaptations down Archie's throat, but, hey...if you want to tag me as such, then I guess there's nothing I can do but take the label and run with it...hehehee

(Emulates Jon Stewart's Dick Cheney impersonation)... Reh! Reh! Sega sucks! Reh! They're deliberately trying to kill Sonic! Reh! Copies of Sonic 2006 should be considered as weapons of mass destruction! Reh! The new raccoon girl is just Cream in a Tanooki suit, showing their failing creativity! Rargh! Reh! Reh! :fist

 
(@ehh123)
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Tracy asked to to write that issue and Archie accepted, Eggpire.

 
(@the-eggpire)
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So that's how things work around there I see. Still I guess he has to have some talent if Archie is just going to up and bow down to every staff members wishes!

 
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I was hoping we would get a clue as to what happened in the "House of Cards" story in this preview. Archie is probably trying to keep it sercert(I even asked Ian and he didn't tell me anything), though if the second story is means anything to the continuality it looks like Sonic and Tails patched things up.

I have always found Engerjak to be an interesting villain, it might be good to see him back depending on how it is done.

 
(@the-eggpire)
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Maybe during these stories we might actually find out if Knuckles is Jesus or not!

 
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I want to see Enerjak come up with new ways to destroy his foes. Personally I think Enerjak will still be Dimitri but Fini has some covert way of keeping a leash on the super powerful echidna, we've never been told the extent of his powers so it's possible. And yea, when is Tracy going to get a break? Are all the other artists busy or something?

 
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i dunno, maybe the head honcho just didn't want to worry about who's going to draw next. i think it's cool that tracy is so consistent, (as i've said before) it's better than moaning about how you're least favorite artist is writing a killer story in three or four months. or vice versa when you're fav artist is doing a story that's not so awesome.

 
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Yeah. It seemed Axer was always stuck writing all of the backstories and fillers. Just read all of the early 100's! Hearts Held Hostage was the exception. But heck, even his parting story was a crappy Chaotix filler by Romy Chacon! (At least Ian rewrote the dialogue in that one!)

... And Ron Lim would get all of the mainstories.

 
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you see, i didn't get that logic at all. Axer was a god among artists, and instead of letting him do good stories they made him do crappy ones. versus ron lim who did everything. especially good stories.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Deadlines.

 
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can't wait lets hope its good. & hope fully the SRA backstory will be a restart for archies vidio game adaptions since they skipped major tie-ins for sonic06 & shadow

 
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personally i cant wait until archie decids to make specials & mini-series again.

I think we all know Shadow is overdue for both:fist

 
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can't wait lets hope its good. & hope fully the SRA backstory will be a restart for archies vidio game adaptions since they skipped major tie-ins for sonic06 & shadow


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I never said Ian was doing it deliberately. You are putting words in my mouth. What I was saying was that I'd assumed Sega oftentimes gives them the option of whether or not to include a new game into a continuity, and Archie subsequently chooses whether or not to go along with it. Maybe I assumed incorrectly...but there is evidence to back me up. We've never seen direct adaptations of Sonic Heroes, Shadow (only an indirect reference), any of the Sonic Advance games, Sonic Rivals, Sonic and the Secret Rings...the idea to make Sonic #25 a Sonic CD adaptation came from Spaz at Archie, not by an order from Sega, etc...


SEGA specifically told them not to cover Shadow directly. The plans for a Sonic 06 story turned into the Secret Rings special disc comic thingy instead. Heroes would be hard to cover when SEGA told them they couldn't use Neo Metal Sonic, so instead we got elements from it. The Advance stuff is fairly weak in terms of plot and a lot of it works around Cream, so aside from it being covered in Sonic X anyway, it couldn't appear in the normal continuity. Sonic Rivals barely has a plot to speak of and IIRC wasn't even a worldwide release. We've also seen game adaptations get fairly wedged into the book to coincide with game promotion.

Furthermore, it would probably be Mike's call (you know, the editor? The person in charge?) as to how things ultimately get adapted, not the writer's.

 
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Wanna bet, Enjark's first target is Knuckles.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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wow random.

on topic, is neo metal sonic supposed to be metal overlord then? or am i missing something entirely. (haven't played a sonic game since heroes)

 
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I thought the Neo applied to the Heroes design that was used in 157-159.

 
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Metal Overlord/Madness was forbidden from use by Sega in the Order From Chaos arc. Ian explained it in his Script Bits! feature for issues #168/169.

 
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I was just thinking about something, yeah I know that's hard to believe, but anyway, here's what I thought of,

We all know Erjak is coming back in this issiue, I was just wondering if maybe in this issiue or the ones after if maybe we'll get the true & real reason behind Fiona's betrayal, perhaps she will secretly inform the FF's and the Chaotix about what's happening and by doing so help them perpare for it.

Perhaps we might, I said might see the Zone cop as well and Scourge returned to his world, but not as Scourge but as bad ol' Evil Sonic, and maybe, just maybe we'll find out if the Zone Cop if he does appear perhaps paid Fiona to be a double-agent for both sides.

But that's just my thoughts on what Could Be , take as you will.

God Bless!

 
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