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(@tornadot)
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Yuku ate my entire summary (Screw you!!) but I'll post the highlights of it and post a full summary later.

-The Freedom Fighters and Chaotix break in and have no issues getting through
-The Legion's plan is to just fail (They do a good enough job at that) all thanks to Snively
-Eggman rigs things up so that only Sonic can deal with him, at least until the others can join in later.
-Snively is decked out in a tiny yellow cape and some cologne, prepared for the mysterious ally's appearance
-Mysterious ally of Snively is not revealed at all
-Eggman confronts Sonic in an Egg-Spider, which will get trashed thoroughly

 
(@administrative)
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He should've used an Egg Mole, dang it!

I wonder if the Dark Legion / Egg Legion's going to just run for the hills the moment Eggman's defeated (most likely). Unless the device that activates their bombs goes when he does Snively and his new lady friend can force the Egg Legion to work for them too, right?

 
(@swanson)
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I wasn't that disappointed that they didn't reveal who Regina is, I've waited this long I can wait another month.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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i have a feeling that whoever regina turns out to be, the result will be fairly underwhelming. it's not the same as anonymous to me, she hasn't done ANYTHING yet. the only big surprise would be if M and snively hooked up way back when in some sort of strange quasi-incestral robot-human relationship. in which case i will laugh pretty hard lol

 
(@rosas)
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Me thinks this whole Regina thing, just might be a ploy on the freedom fighters part. Or Maybe Not.

 
(@bsonic10)
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Me thinks this whole Regina thing, just might be a ploy on the freedom fighters part. Or Maybe Not.

I don't think so.

Anyway, I enjoyed this issue, it was a nice nostalgia trip. It mainly set the final stage for #200 than anything. I thought it had some good character interactions, and some development between characters. Snively is so pompous, he seems fairly certain that the next issue will bring about the fall of the Eggman Empire. Also, Lien-Da and Diitri referred to Snively as "sir", which makes me wonder if they'll end up following him when this is all over (whether it's there choice or not). I was a bit disappointed though, the cover made me sure this was the issue with the Regina reveal! I mean, don't get me wrong, I can wait one or two more months, but I was really expecting her to reveal herself.

Just to inform you guys a bit more on the Egg Tarantula, I'll quote Dub from a post he made at Bumbleking:

Since the cat is out of the bag and it doesn't spoil anything I guess I can say this much.

It is indeed called the Egg Tarantula. It's the same very unfinished device that Eggman was still roughly cobbling together in the backup of Sonic 194. But you could only make out the tiniest part of it there (IE the very top). I wasn't really sure what the final version would look like outside of a small basic picture I had so the one I drew looked different than the final design in terms of the legs and abdomen (plus it was all colored gray). Personally, I think Tracy's and Matt's final design of it came out to be really freakin' awesome.

Enjoy the wait for 200!

Also, many thanks to Kintobor over at Bumbleking, as she provided this pic of the Egg Tarantula:

Some lighting issues with the scan, but there it is.

 
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That's a really unflattering shot of Sonic. It looks like he gained 10 pounds.

i have a feeling that whoever regina turns out to be, the result will be fairly underwhelming.

I feel the same way. The effect would be doubled if it really does turn out to be The Iron Queen because it was predicted (and subsequently denied) more times then I could count. Things have turned out so well for everyone (except Eggman) in this arch so far that I'm simply dying for a twist right now. This battle is surprisingly one sided compared to Endgame. So much so that it was repeatedly said in this very issue.

Took some thing to think about it after actually reading the issue last night (Snively looks ridiculously cute in his cape btw). This is the first time Snively and Regina are meeting face to face. Before not they mainly communicated with e-mails and more recently voice chat. Might it be possible that Regina isn't who we think she is or even if she isn't who Snively think she is? It's easy to fake a persona on the internet and just about as easy to fake a voice. It'd be a nice twist if Regina didn't exactly match up to Snively's expectations. Surely a little shrimp like Snively isn't exactly the spitting image of a desirable man himself.

Maybe Regina's actually one of the animals Snively hates so much.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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snively's a furry? haha

 
(@administrative)
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Not intentionally, though.

I imagine he didn't grow to put his trust in Regina just because of the way she looks (or he believes she looks anyway).

 
(@rosas)
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Like I've said before, this might be a ploy on the Freedom Fighters part, remember after Endgame, Snivley was still about in their old city and he easily went back to Eggman for more power.

Perhaps this time around, their not taking any chances with him.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Snively may think everything's going to work out, but I just know something's going to go wrong. Something always goes wrong with his plans.

 
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i have a feeling that whoever regina turns out to be, the result will be fairly underwhelming.

I feel the same way. The effect would be doubled if it really does turn out to be The Iron Queen because it was predicted (and subsequently denied) more times then I could count. Things have turned out so well for everyone (except Eggman) in this arch so far that I'm simply dying for a twist right now. This battle is surprisingly one sided compared to Endgame. So much so that it was repeatedly said in this very issue.

I'm thinking that The Egg Tarantula might be fairly impressive next issue. I also think Snively has something up his sleeve, so I think things might get a little harder in the next issue. I'm hoping so anyway, that's how things are shaping up to be. As for the Regina reveal, I don't think it will be Earth shattering, I never thought that. I don't think it will be completely underwhelming though.

Took some thing to think about it after actually reading the issue last night (Snively looks ridiculously cute in his cape btw). This is the first time Snively and Regina are meeting face to face. Before not they mainly communicated with e-mails and more recently voice chat. Might it be possible that Regina isn't who we think she is or even if she isn't who Snively think she is? It's easy to fake a persona on the internet and just about as easy to fake a voice. It'd be a nice twist if Regina didn't exactly match up to Snively's expectations. Surely a little shrimp like Snively isn't exactly the spitting image of a desirable man himself.

Actually, I thought that they were doing more than chatting in #197. I thought the main reason that monitor was turned away from us was because at least her face was on the screen.

Maybe Regina's actually one of the animals Snively hates so much.

In this comic? I doubt it.

Snively may think everything's going to work out, but I just know something's going to go wrong. Something always goes wrong with his plans.

Well, I hope he at least stays with Regina for a while anyway. I'm not so sure he'll remain in power as much as he wants/thinks, but I'm hoping he at least sticks with her for a while. Although, things in this comic seem to show that he's destined to be by his Uncle's side. =P Maybe he and Regina will end up working for him again eventually.

 
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As for the Regina reveal, I don't think it will be Earth shattering, I never thought that. I don't think it will be completely underwhelming though.

Back when this whole Regina business started I thought Snively and his lady-friend were going to swoop in and take over for themselves or at least ensure victory for the enemy by driving the final nail in the coffin. Now it looks like Snively's just clearing the way for the Freedom Fighters to get rid of Eggman for them and plans on doing a more quiet takeover of the empire. He just helped Freedom Fighters do what they could've probably managed to do anyway without Snively's help seeing how extensively prepared they were for the mission.

Actually, I thought that they were doing more than chatting in #197. I thought the main reason that monitor was turned away from us was because at least her face was on the screen.

Now I remember.

Could be. Could not be. Could be a fake video rendered in real time.

... okay. Okay. I just don't plain ol' want her to be The Iron Queen. This is me holding my ears and singing 'lalalalala' until the music stops.

 
(@rosas)
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Or it could be, the female version Robotnik, from the zone where Sally-Moon is from.

 
(@matt7325)
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Zone lockdown and respect for decent writing says no.

 
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Zone lockdown and respect for decent writing says no.

... because The Lockdown so totally stopped The Invasion from what I remember.

I'm kind of convinced that Zonic can't do anything right. Whenever there's trouble he just calls -insert character- for help. He's like the guy Commissioner Gordon gets to light up the Batsignal. He feels he's an important part of the process because he can say " Hey, I'm the guy who lit up the Batsignal " but then he gets a pinkslip two weeks later and is replaced by yet another guy who can light up the Batsignal. Incidentally, it was Zector who brought the hedgehogs to No Zone for Zonic to make the arrest in 197. That falls under the same principle.

Or it could be, the female version Robotnik, from the zone where Sally-Moon is from.

Wouldn't that mean that Snively fell for his Aunt?

 
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...ewww

 
(@bsonic10)
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Zone lockdown and respect for decent writing says no.

... because The Lockdown so totally stopped The Invasion from what I remember.

I'm kind of convinced that Zonic can't do anything right. Whenever there's trouble he just calls -insert character- for help. He's like the guy Commissioner Gordon gets to light up the Batsignal. He feels he's an important part of the process because he can say " Hey, I'm the guy who lit up the Batsignal " but then he gets a pinkslip two weeks later and is replaced by yet another guy who can light up the Batsignal. Incidentally, it was Zector who brought the hedgehogs to No Zone for Zonic to make the arrest in 197. That falls under the same principle.

Zone cops are special, they have to travel to other zones. Also, Zonic has already confirmed that the Sol Zone and Moebius (as well as presumably the X-verse) were left open to Mobius for stability sake. They're all still under lock-down from other universes, but they are linked with one another.

 
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The extent of Zonic's part in the grand scheme of things seems to be making sure that Sonic and a few others in the Prime Universe continue to do what they would have kept doing anyway. For being the " Zone Cop " he doesn't seem to be capable of handling much of anything on his own. The Zone Cops seem to be losing the war against Eggman Nega so when and if permission is given for the proper use of Nega it looks like he'll be Sonic's problem, too.

Zone cops are special, they have to travel to other zones.

Sonic is special, too. Zonic said himself that it's Sonic who's eventually going to be the keeping the balance of all of the Multiverses. So what does that make Zonic? Disposable.

It doesn't help that virtually every party is gaining access to the technology needed to hop zones whenever (Super Warp Rings, Star Posts, ect). If Zonic is also supposed to be used as a middleman to get whoever he needs to solve a problem to another zone he might not even be needed for transport.

I'm basically saying that even though Zonic does technically have a purpose he's not necessarily needed. Like a " Thanks but no thanks " kind of thing.

 
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Well, yeah the hedgehog is useless. He hasn't done much at all in this series besides call people in to do his job for him. Also, Zonic is supposed to make sure things go smoothly in all zones, not just the prime zone. Although the Prime Zone is his main area of interest, and he cares the most about that particular Universe.

 
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Sonic is special, too. Zonic said himself that it's Sonic who's eventually going to be the keeping the balance of all of the Multiverses. So what does that make Zonic? Disposable.

We can get rid of him after his origin story is revealed. 😛

 
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Also, Zonic is supposed to make sure things go smoothly in all zones, not just the prime zone.

He must've missed the memo about Anti-Mobi- Moebius or the zone hopping Metal Sonic.

We can get rid of him after his origin story is revealed. 😛

That's on the " who cares " pile right up there with the origin of Alicia Acorn (Max's wife), Dr. Quack's middle son, Egg Pawn #42, or some other D List member of the cast.

 
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Also, Zonic is supposed to make sure things go smoothly in all zones, not just the prime zone.

He must've missed the memo about Anti-Mobi- Moebius or the zone hopping Metal Sonic.

#197 seems to indicate he knew about Scourge and the SS and more or less everything going on with them. They, or more specifically Scourge, are more like wild cards now. Scourge can move more freely to other zones. Nothing that happened on Moebius, or anything dealing with the Metal Sonic had presented anything big enough that he needed to step in for I guess. That, and he was busy fighting off Nega. Again, he has stated that Moebius, the Sol Zone and the X-verse are connected for the stability of the Prime Zone.

 
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They, or more specifically Scourge, are more like wild cards now. Scourge can move more freely to other zones.

It seemed more like he was saying the opposite; because Scourge is becoming dangerous and unpredictable he should be locked away which is why he had Sonic bring him to No-Zone. All Sonics seem to be able to move freely throughout the zones with little consequence because of who they are to some extent (protectors of the Zones / Cosmic Interstate). It's just that Zonic won't allow one of those Sonics moving from zone to zone to wreck up the place / destroy it because it goes against the whole stability thing.

Nothing that happened on Moebius, or anything dealing with the Metal Sonic had presented anything big enough that he needed to step in for I guess.

Well that was less about Metal Sonic and more the fact that Eggman can create an engine that can hop zones. That might be a problem somewhere down the pipes if not from him then from his successors.

 
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They, or more specifically Scourge, are more like wild cards now. Scourge can move more freely to other zones.

It seemed more like he was saying the opposite; because Scourge is becoming dangerous and unpredictable he should be locked away which is why he had Sonic bring him to No-Zone. All Sonics seem to be able to move freely throughout the zones with little consequence because of who they are to some extent (protectors of the Zones / Cosmic Interstate). It's just that Zonic won't allow one of those Sonics moving from zone to zone to wreck up the place / destroy it because it goes against the whole stability thing.

Except for the fact that Zonic didn't send Sonic to go and get Scourge. In fact, Zonic never even seemed like he was going to do anything about Scourge or the SS until Sonic brought Scourge to Zonic. He also stated that because of Scourge's mutation, he was a wild card, and had a bit more freedom in the cosmic way of things. Zonic and the other Zone cops were busy enforcing the lock down (more strictly in certain places) and fighting Dr. Nega.

Actually, I interpret the opposite. The Zone Cops don't really want any of the Sonics (or anybody else) to go to any other Universes unless absolutely necessary. In fact, Sonic has only gotten away with it in certain cases because Zonic wanted him to. In other cases, I guess Zonic was being careless, but he doesn't seem to want anybody traveling and taking up residence in a zone for an extended period of time, if at all. That was something enforced before the lock down from what I recall. The only zones that they allow people in Universes to travel to are the pocket zones that every zone has, like the Special Zone/Void/Zone of Silence.

Nothing that happened on Moebius, or anything dealing with the Metal Sonic had presented anything big enough that he needed to step in for I guess.

Well that was less about Metal Sonic and more the fact that Eggman can create an engine that can hop zones. That might be a problem somewhere down the pipes if not from him then from his successors.

As for the engine, there's not much I can really say other than either: a) they don't care enough (which seems unlikely), b) they don't think it presents a big enough threat (again, not all that likely), c) they didn't know about it yet, or d) like with Scourge they were to busy fighting Nega to deal with it. I don't really know what to say other than those possible ideas for the engine.

 
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Yuku ate my entire summary (Screw you!!) but I'll post the highlights of it and post a full summary later.

-The Freedom Fighters and Chaotix break in and have no issues getting through
-The Legion's plan is to just fail (They do a good enough job at that) all thanks to Snively
-Eggman rigs things up so that only Sonic can deal with him, at least until the others can join in later.
-Snively is decked out in a tiny yellow cape and some cologne, prepared for the mysterious ally's appearance
-Mysterious ally of Snively is not revealed at all
-Eggman confronts Sonic in an Egg-Spider, which will get trashed thoroughly

Got 199 in the mail this morning, have to say, it was overall, a very good issue and lead-in to the 200th issue.

Lots of nods to the 50th issue, espeically when Sally tells Bunnie,"I had you all beat, I was dead during that", of course referening to Endgame, and as well to past encounters and lives.

I'm a bit suprised that this may of the first times, someone has called the Mobians ", Animals"almost like Snively feels that they are brenth him.

Love the hint of a S&S rekindling.

Not so sure of the kiss by a certain pink girl.

Love the intgriue to finding out who Regina is.

And I have a feeling Snively plans will blow up in his face. Just a hunch

And the final face-off between Sonic and Eggman, looks like it will a classic, one-sider that is (Sonic side of course)

Overall, very good lead-in to the 200th anniveresy issue. Can't wait.

9/10.

God Bless.

 
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Except for the fact that Zonic didn't send Sonic to go and get Scourge.

" Then why did I have to bring Scourge to you? " - Sonic to Zonic.

Reading back Zonic admits that he didn't do anything about the Invasion because they were busy fighting Eggman Nega true enough. It looks like Zonic didn't want Scourge running around but had other things to attend to first.

Have to agree to disagree on the rest due to lack of evidence. Zonic didn't get to say much else besides that. They'll probably get around to explaining it further in a year or so when Scourge escapes somehow and starts unleashing The Fury all over again.

And I have a feeling Snively plans will blow up in his face. Just a hunch image

It's a man!

... or an " animal ".

 
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Except for the fact that Zonic didn't send Sonic to go and get Scourge.

" Then why did I have to bring Scourge to you? " - Sonic to Zonic.

Reading back Zonic admits that he didn't do anything about the Invasion because they were busy fighting Eggman Nega true enough. It looks like Zonic didn't want Scourge running around but had other things to attend to first.

Have to agree to disagree on the rest due to lack of evidence. Zonic didn't get to say much else besides that. They'll probably get around to explaining it further in a year or so when Scourge escapes somehow and starts unleashing The Fury all over again.

Yeah, Sonic wants to know why he had to go and bring Scourge to Zonic without Zonic doing anything or even contacting him. He had to use the Globe Posts to reach the Cosmic Interstate/Highway and had to go find Zonic himself. Nowhere was it implied that Zonic had Sonic bring Scourge to him. Sonic was the one who wanted to find Zonic because he had questions, and he wanted to drop Scourge off. He obviously hadn't been in contact with him for a while before he finally saw him in #197.

Zonic may not have wanted Scourge running around, true, but he also sounded like he wouldn't have done much even if he was tied up. To Scourge anyway, I wouldn't doubt that he'd intervene with Fiona and the SS.

I concur that we'll have to agree to disagree, because I find a lack of evidence in some of your arguments just like you do with some of mine.

 
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Okay, so I'm left wondering: Why is Mewtwo's silhouette featured in the top right corner of the comic cover?

 
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Okay, so I'm left wondering: Why is Mewtwo's silhouette featured in the top right corner of the comic cover?

I'm pretty sure that's RF's silhouette. I think it was a teaser to get our hopes up for her reveal. In a lot of cases it worked.

 
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Okay, so I'm left wondering: Why is Mewtwo's silhouette featured in the top right corner of the comic cover?

200 will begin a Crossover of epic proportions: Sandslash VS Adriados.

 
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