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Seeing Snivley of all people get teary eyed over her is wonderful. Great artwork there.
I concur immensely.
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I actually don't have much to say on this issue. The cover isn't as striking as last issue's (in fact, it feels rather plain), and the story didn't leave me with any excitment nor emotions on parts that were suppose to play that part. I also think Mammoth Mogul and his posse's arrival were just random, Nack's comment was funny though.
okay, this brings up a point about what i didn't like about the issue. Mogul and company come back, get thrown in prison. they defeat robotnik, and order him back to Megaopolis. they take the one guy who wouldn't be able to break out of a cell and send him back to where he can do the most damage? but they send the guys who have proven that they can break out of a cell into what seems like basic jail cells? what kind of writing is that?
i know that they are gearing up for enerjak and everything, but still that seems so freaking dumb on the FF's part.
I didn't really care for this issue for some reason. But there is three things I've noticed that no one has brought up yet. The first thing is even though Mammoth Mogul and the others were thrown into prison yet again. I have this real bad feeling that the good guys haven't seen the last of M. Mogul just because of the look he had on his face on that one page! The second thing is Tails and Amy? And the third and main thing is about the upcoming Sonic vs Tails story arc! I noticed that maybe Merlin might side with Sonic and the Acorn's and not with his brother Amadeus his wife Rosemary and their son Tails.
What do you mean, Tails and Amy? Anyone got a scan of this? 
Lets just say Sonic and Knuckles have something that Tails maybe he wishes could/would like to have at his age. And I think you might get the idea.
relationship talk alert!
but no i didn't catch onto that seeing as how they weren't even near each other the whole issue.
but yet again, don't try to dodge the rule.
H. Shadow77 let me ask you this did it or did it not look like Mogul could be back some where down the road because of that look he had on his face. Plus do you also think that Merlin is going to side with Sonic and the Acorn's?
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Lets just say Sonic and Knuckles have something that Tails maybe he wishes could/would like to have at his age.
Tails wants a story where he's considered dead and then comes back? 
unless mogul is dead, then he'll come back.
Charmy suffered some memory loss but don't know the extent of it.
Anyone else think that the effect of the egg-grapes might be Ian's way of making Charmy younger ot match the Game. After all, Charmy is 6 or8 in the games while he's 16 in the comics.
I've heard that theory a few times. Initially, I was wondering what effect it'd have on Saffron.
Now that I've actually read the issue, although he still remembers her, it still wouldn't surprise me if we see her dropped out of sight.
After all, if Charmy's incapacitated, someone has to look after the Golden Hive.
...except that the Golden Hive is gone.
Even if she doesn't do much (given the number of characters around), I like Saffron. She's cute and it sorta adds another female to the group.
It's kind of cool to see Sally get her classic look back, though I really didn't care whether or not she had long hair. One cool thing about the story was having the Chaotix and Freedom Fighters take out the Egg Beater; nice to know that Ian doesn't think them totally worthless against super-powered enemies. Mogul and the gang will either have to be killed, permanently set free, or left in jail this time around; aside from Bark and Bean, all of them have been imprisoned more times than I bother to remember. NICOLE finally getting semi-permanent use of her holographic form is good, and when you think about it she's become somewhat omnipotent. She created the city, right? So that means she controls everything in it.
Yeah, I thought about that too. Isn't she essentially a non-evil version of A.D.A.M. now?
I got the issue in the mail today, I ordered it online, and here are some random thoughts:
This is one of the few issues I remember that had cursing symbols. I seem to remember at least one other, but I don't remember the number right now.
I thought the issue was written and drawn pretty well(for the most part), and had some good emotional moments(like when Nicole was fadeing). I really hope Dan likes this issue.
Lastly, I want to know how well you think Ian is handling Sally's transition from her princess role to a more freedom fighter role? I especially want to hear from those who think he is doing a pretty good job on this. Overall, except for maybe a little more explaination as to why Sally went back to the freedom fighters, I think Ian is doing fine on this point. I do like the deivous look on Sally's face when she was about to ask Bunnie to cut her hair.
Well my reiview is up at the post here and please do check it out
You want it typed out, well here, I'll give you all key hints of what #177 has shown for the future.
1. After Nicole imprisiones the villians, notice the look on Mougal's face, if he doesn't have a roll in the next few issiues then I don't what that look was for.
2. Notice how Scrouge is seemly now questioning if he made the right choice in his own mind to join Dr. F., does he fear what will come. And why is Dr. F. happy Dimitri took off, is hoping he brings Knuckles back so he become the new Enerjek or to confort his father who might be as well.
3. The Emotional Exchange between Hope and Snivley, that to me is a hint that what others have been saying will possible come to pass, and that is Snivley sacrficing himself to save Hope.
4. The look on Tails Dad face as he looks at Tails, like he know his son is the key to getting what he wants, and Merlin's cocern maybe due to the fact, that even though he is not on the same level as Auroa is or what the walkers used to be, perhaps he has seen what is going to happen already, and wants to prevent it from ever happening.
5. The celebration/victory page has few hints as well, but I think we all know what those hints are.
But that's just from reading the issiue a few times already and reading between the lines.
God Bless
Cripes. Several things here.
First, it doesn't matter if you're being "nice." Posting full issue scans is against the rules here, as you should know by now. If you think it's going to be removed, why do it in the first place?
Secondly, it really doesn't matter if you're being "nice," because that doesn't change the fact that posting full issue scans is illegal. Hence the aforementioned rule. Or are you trying to get people's websites in legal trouble?
Thirdly, it's spelled "issue" and not "issiue."
In other words, bw1979, could you please delete those scans. I know you mean well, but Lea does has a point.
Consider it done
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3. The Emotional Exchange between Hope and Snivley, that to me is a hint that what others have been saying will possible come to pass, and that is Snivley sacrficing himself to save Hope
no i don't believe that at all. it means he still has an emotional attachment to his sister that's pretty much it.
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4. The look on Tails Dad face as he looks at Tails, like he know his son is the key to getting what he wants, and Merlin's cocern maybe due to the fact, that even though he is not on the same level as Auroa is or what the walkers used to be, perhaps he has seen what is going to happen already, and wants to prevent it from ever happening.
that's merlin's own intuition, it doesn't take magical powers to figure out that somethings up. granted it's not like amadeus is trying to keep his thoughts secret with his blatant spurts of anarchy.
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5. The celebration/victory page has few hints as well, but I think we all know what those hints are.
hmmm no i don't. care to elaborate? oh wait... elaborating would mean that you would be breaking some sort of embargo put here years ago. i wonder what that one would be....
Only thing that annoys me is the subplot with Amaedeus...just get this silly reformation over with...man I want to move on to Enerjak arc. I do like Sally shedding the long locks mainly because the long haired look didn't seem right. Now if she can revert to useful spunky leader Sally, I'll be happy.
Would it be too much to ask for someone to post the scans for the pages showing Hope and Snively. The store where I regularly buy comics has stopped supplying Sonic comics. Plus this is the scen I was really looking forward to.
Perhaps, cause one would trending on heavy waters doing that. Don't worry I PM them to you, enjoy!
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Very Funny, hypershadow, but yes it would going to a place you can't go to, besides what are your thoughts on the other hints I pionted out.
1. try not to double post.
2. i have a feeling that alot of people don't read my posts seeing as how the one at the top was completely ignored. btw, it does address mogul. so it covers your other hint.
3. scourge has been questioning himself since sonic reversed his whole *one bad day makes you me* thing.
but other than that. even though sonic and sally have been playful with each other, it doesn't mean that they will get together. ian says he likes the break up, and by no means are they "destined" to be together, the comic could end with them still split up. it's entirely possible.
sorry everyone to tapdance on the *no relationship* rule, but i had to get that crap out of the way.
BW, how many times do you have to be reminded about these things?
Coupled with the disregard in posting the full issue scans, that's a final warning on top of everything else.
I took the scans off.
After saying that you knew that they'd be removed the first place.
Does that mean that - as the Mods and Admins've kept telling you to do every time you do something like this - you actually read the rules (link in my sig, as usual), saw the one about full issue scans and ignored it, or ignored staff requests and didn't read the rules at all, but thought that we wouldn't mind you breaking the law anyway?
The straw that broke the camel's back was yet ANOTHER case of you having to be told not to double post.
You're being told, told and told again - even banned - and you still don't seem to follow even the most basic posting guidelines. I don't know what your reason for that is, but there're consequences for it.
Yes, heaven forbid the characters be familiar to new readers who play the games.
I guess I get that point for new readers to recognize some of these characters based on all the Sonic games, but these new readers also need to note the number printed on the cover of these comics. We're now in the 170's of a comic that many people grew up with. I understand the whole Archie/Sega thing, but there really needs to be a line between satisfying Sega and staying true to the fans. Charmy's been around since the Knuckles Chaotix special back when the numbers of these comics were in the 30's, and i would hate it if they use all this as some excuse to mold him into his video game counterpart.
I guess I just get unnerved sometimes how the comics always have to tweak things to satisfy whatever new concept game makers come up with. the games get to set all the rules that the fans of the comics just have to deal with or something.
I guess I'm also biased because my interest in Sonic stemmed from SatAM and these comics, NOT the game which I guess is contrary to the majority. I just really got into the story created here behind the games and I don't like seeing it unnecessarily changed to suit what I consider an outside source. JMO perhaps
we don't know for sure if charmy really will be like that though, even doctor quack said that. so don't get upset about something that might not even happen.
That's true, even though I've said that Ian is just mixing in the video game version of Charmy with The Original Comic's Version, in his own way, I guess he's telling SEGA, "Here I put and mixed in the video game version of Charmy with this version of him, hope your satisfied." or something to that manner, or at least that's what I would have said. 
Hypershadow77, I wanted to let you know that I replied to something you said on a post via PM. Please read and reply to it when you can.
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That's true, even though I've said that Ian is just mixing in the video game version of Charmy with The Original Comic's Version, in his own way, I guess he's telling SEGA, "Here I put and mixed in the video game version of Charmy with this version of him, hope your satisfied." or something to that manner, or at least that's what I would have said.
That's all fine and good, but just because you say it does'nt make it true. For all you know, Ian prefer's the game's version of Charmy, so he found a way to change him accordingly.
That might true Toby, but one can never tell can they. Perhaps he does like that version, but alos realizes he knows fans like the orginal comic version of Charmy and just mixed both together.
that would be smarter of him at least to do some sort of blend. i won't get THAT upset if charmy winds up like this permanently. just mildly annoyed is all
Fortunetly, Charmy's suffering from what one might call "Cartoon Amnesia", which fortunetly can be cured through timely application of Plot Device.
Maybe. Maybe not. But Charmy's new personality is definitly staying. Ian said he thought Charmy's old personality was too plain and boring.
I said no such thing.
You're right. I checked. My mistake. I'm sorry.
And long after the fact, I get 177...
Gotta say, Sally's return to the old 'do gets a mixed response from me. I like the fact that it's not only symbolic, but it's true to her return to normal (as opposed to the overprotective, overemotive dingbat she'd been for a couple years). And to be fair, Yardley's style works with it, though it clearly took him a couple tries to draw her right (check out that massive forehead!).
On the other hand, I liked it better when it looked like she had hair, and not a furry slug on her head. It's also kinda bland that she looks and acts exactly the same as she did 15 years ago...of course, Knux and Julie-Su haven't undergone any changes either, so bleah.
Issue overall...t'was a good read. Has definitely set up some interesting possibilities for the future (The Prowers, Snively and Hope, etc.)
LoneWolf23 says: "Fortunetly, Charmy's suffering from what one might call "Cartoon Amnesia", which fortunetly can be cured through timely application of Plot Device."
Saffron: Amy, can I borrow your giant hammer?
Amy: Sure, what do you need it for?
Saffron: Oh, nothing. Just going to "hit a few points home".
I just got this issue and all I have to say is....dude. It was..it was definatly a well planned fight there.
I was kind of expecting that sonic wouldnt be the one to beat Robotnik, I like the fact that he was so causual like "yea, I know that I cant beat you, but guess what, THEY can." He was very composed and he acknowledged that his friends were just as good as he was, I think that sounds like Sonic may acually be growing up, at least a little bit.
I mean he didnt focus solely on his ability to fight, to take down robotnik by himself, he admited that he acually couldnt do it without the others, is quite a change from how he acted in issue 176 when he tried to do everything on his own. A very good improvement.
As for Sally's new hairstyle all I have to say is ITS ABOUT TIME. now maybe we can acually see some more of Freedom Fighter Sally rather then monarch Sally.
The thing which really blew me away was the section with Tails and his family. Amadeus has SO planned this out its not even funny and from what he says and how he looks at his son, you can tell that he's gonna do ANYTHING in order to get his way, that is just really really scary. I still have my doubts thats the real Amadeus.
I mean going to the planet, picking them up, and leaving without anyone the wiser, even thought here was a conveniant fight going on up above it was way too easy. for the moment though it definatly looks like Amadeus is going to cause some serious strife soon, and Tails just goes with it, doesnt even question his father and just agrees to be on his side no matter what.
Tails is sooo not going to take whats going to happen well, I can feel that right now. At least Merlin is thinking, HE knows that something isnt quite right here, now can he manage to figure things out before it gets too bad. Sorry this was so long, I'm done now heh.
the glaring weakness seemed too overlooked for Eggman, he even didn't even put up a fight against everyone else.
