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(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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Thank you, Bsonic, for those clarifications! I, too, am sorry if I sounded snappy, but too often in the MoFo, and indeed in other Sonic boards (GameFAQs I'm looking at you!), people come in and act like they're experts even when, clearly, they're not and try to say the manuals say this or such and such writer says this without so much as even a shred of evidence to back them up. And since you been here you didn't back it up; so, naturally, I thought you were one of them and go a little upset. However, you've shown your evidence and I accept it...oh and by the way, welcome to the MoFo; just remember to back up you claims and/or opinions from now on, kay.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Samanfur I would be interested to see what you think.

I'll send you a copy of the same PM, then. I'm at work for the next eight hours, but I'll type it up at some point.

As for Fiona turning good again, I don't think so. The original purpose of turning her ito a villain was that the comic was short on female villains, thus why the creative team turned her evil. Not to mention I may be alone in this sentiment, but I'm hapy with her being a villain. She's much more interesting now and can actually add something to the story.

I agree that she's more interesting now than how she was being written as a FF - but for me, that depended on how it's handled and it could work either way. If she was written as conflicted - constantly trying to stay "on the wagon" and not do things the nasty way for either personal gain or the fact it was easier - I think it might've worked whichever side she was on, and would've been an easy way to keep her on neither (which is a position that the comic doesn't have much of). It's that change in how her personality was written that made her interesting - and she doesn't necessarily have to be nice to be good, if you get my distinction. That's something that I think that Archie forgets - but the Fleetway fans'll know what I mean if I use Shortfuse as an abrasive character with his own agenda, with a tendency to do both the right thing for the wrong reasons and vice versa.

A lot of pivotal moments've been about big choices in this plot arc, and the dialogue's been foregrounding it. Fiona chose to go with Scourge. Tails tried to make her choose to embrace the fact that she's not naturally an anti-FF (call me PC if you must, but I prefer not to use the abreviation SS). Sonic and Scourge made a big stink about either of them being one decision away from becoming the other. Even Ant asked Fiona about choosing to side with people who weren't her own.

Maybe I'm just over-speculating, but this is Ian Other-M Flynn we're talking about and I suspect he's fully capable of sneaking in a theme like that if he wanted to. I just can't help wondering if someone's going to have to make that one choice that either defines who they really are or sells their soul to what they're pretending to be for good - either through Fiona hitting a point of no return or having a moment of doubt/regret, one of the FFs doing the wrong thing for the right reasons or even one of the antis choosing to do what Fiona did and go against their nature.

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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Actually, that particular nickname debuted along with Amy in Sonic CD. Most of the early game previews referred to her with that name.

Really?! Wow, I was completely unaware. Is it mentioned somewhere in the game itself, or just the manual?
By the way, I've always loved your signature.

 
(@ian-potto_1722585839)
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Maybe I'm just over-speculating, but this is Ian Other-M Flynn we're talking about and I suspect he's fully capable of sneaking in a theme like that if he wanted to.

Ehhh...I understand where you're coming from, but I wouldn't bank on the OM-influence. Granted, I was amused at the irony of it all when I got on the book: Sonic and Fiona paired right as I was leaving my fan-work behind. But I've made a concious effort to not repeat my past work. That'd be lazy. That, and by that extension, I think we got a much more fun Bean and Bark.

OM was a fun hobby, but it really doesn't have any place in STH. OM was dark, angry, and more mature in its themes (namely the two sides of terrorism). STH can push the envelope sometimes, but it's meant to be all-ages, and I really like that it's a book my little brother can read out of my stack of books each month.

Your arguments are sound, Sam, no question there. I'm just trying to put OM to bed for good.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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I wasn't meaning to make it sound as though you were actually trying to turn Archie into OM or let it influence you at all, Ian - just using it as a supporting example of the sort of depth and ability you were capable of writing with, in the way you might identify any creative sort with what you feel is a nice example of their craft.

 
(@bsonic10)
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Rayzor, thank you for your apology, but I understand your anger. I should have brought those links to the table to begin with. If I mention things like that again, I'll make sure to have a link ready. Thanks for the welcome though!

Samanfur, I do get you're saying, and I think Rouge and Shadow would be good examples too.

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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....I have no idea whats going on? (I'm back from the big city yay!, got a whole bunch o new comics Secret invasion Transformers, sonicX.) anywho whats the argument over now? What about rouge & shadow?

 
(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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Rayzor, thank you for your apology, but I understand your anger. I should have brought those links to the table to begin with. If I mention things like that
again, I'll make sure to have a link ready. Thanks for the welcome though!

Samanfur, I do get you're saying, and I think Rouge and Shadow would be good examples too.

Hey, no prob, on all accounts! I can see you're gonna be a fine addition around here!

 
(@techno88)
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This is a little off topic but I see there are two different spellings of Mobius being used. I'm guessing the Anti's have it spelled Moebius and the Prime's have it spelled Mobius.

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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Becuase there diffrent dimensions.

anywho back on topic, how long do you think this story will last? im gonna say until about 196.

 
(@techno88)
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Becuase there diffrent dimensions.

anywho back on topic, how long do you think this story will last? im gonna say until about 196.


Yeah, somewhere around there, maybe it will go right up to 200! We should be savoring the moment and not be so itchy to jump ahead!

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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Really?! Wow, I was completely unaware. Is it mentioned somewhere in the game itself, or just the manual?

In the game? No. Japanese manual referenced it, though.

By the way, I've always loved your signature.

Coming Soon: Rebuild of SEGAGALION 1.0: You Are (Not) A Dreamcast

 
(@lil-susy941)
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There's a possibility that Anti-Amy could go by 'Rosy', as a nod to her nickname that was only ever mentioned in Sonic Fighters ("Rosy the Rascal"). Rosy probably wouldn't suit a mean girl but who's to say that she'd be evil? Anti-Knuckles wasn't. But would Moebius' Amy have undergone an aging process like Mobius' Amy did? Maybe not. In that case the 'rascal' part of the name could work - she might not be old enough to be doing really bad things like Scourge and co, but she'd well on her way, playing mean little pranks. Kinda like Ashley from WarioWare - innocent looking, cute name, but that's not quite what you get.

I was having my own speculations. I'm sort of hoping Anti-Amy would a be some girl who instead of being Sonic's biggest fan really hates Scourge and hunts him down all the time.......... Maybe It'll be an Amy who did what Julie-su was trying to tell Amy prime in (#172 I think?) who does things for herself and maybe gets Amy prime to think a little.

But that's just a guess. A hopeful hopeful guess that Amy's character development can go that way instead of some more shipping.

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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The Carmelita to Scourge's Sly Cooper? Could be interesting...

 
(@cookirini)
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I'm surprised no one is thinking about what might happen to Sonic in the X comic.

Maybe I'm just a sucker for him, but I think we might get an Unleashed storyline here, in a matter of speaking. But that is my thought on it, what with the fact this storyline is coming out relatively close to when the game itself is slated to be released.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Nah. In the next issue of this two parter, Vector's a huge version of himself. Probobly would have done the same to Sonic.

 
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