It was only a matter of time, what with SatAM and AoStH.

Well, now no one can complain. All shows, all seasons, all episodes of every '90s Sonic toon series is now or soon to be available on DVD.

The trifecta is complete, the sleeper has awakened. Etcetera, etcetera...

The OVA needs to be more widely spread before that's entirely true... I mean, technically it IS true: every Sonic cartoon series of the '90s will be on DVD soon, and the OVA came out ages ago so it's already covered... but you can't find it in stores nowadays, can you?

Being one of the few fans of Sonic Underground, I say "w00t!"

Has he mentioned if the whole series will be released? I know that when they were running on TV, they never finished.

SH, wasn't the OVA re-released on DVD a couple years ago? I haven't gone looking for it recently (having gotten mine the month it came out), so I don't know whether it'd be too much harder to find than these box sets.

I had the OVA, lent it to someone, and they never ruturned it

I already have all of Sonic Underground in a boxset! =O

Yeah, that was what I was thinking - Sonic Underground's already been on DVD, recently and every episode of it.

And now, R1 gets to catch up with us. 😉

DANG YOU R2!! ::can't get his hands on today's Doctor Who::

Lucky UK'ers.

The OVA desperately needs a re-release. I've seen it go for as much as $100 on Ebay, and as much as I want it, I can't justifying spending that much money on a forty-minute cartoon.

Sonic Underground was a hybrid between AoStH and SatAM, containing the silliness of the first, and the sometimes emotional side of the other.

I've heard of Sonic Underground but never watched it. Is this a good series?

Man I really wish they would make more Satam episodes. Those are awesome

It depends on how you define good.

Basically, it's about Sonic and his siblings (Sonia & Manic) that had been separated pretty much right after birth. They meet up as teenagers, start a band (and as a result there is an obligatory song in every episode), and fight Robotnik, who currently controls the planet but is searching for Queen Aleena (Sonic, Sonia, & Manic's mother) so that he can become the legitimate ruler. Continuing the "tradition" of Robotnik having some sort of lackeys, Sleet & Dingo are the two usually trying to stop/capture Sonic, Sonia, & Manic.

Knuckles and Athair (different from the Archie version; but same basic relation to Knuckles) make appearances in the series as well. No Tails or Amy though.

I personally didn't mind what I saw of it, other than the songs (which had more to do with their delivery than the lyrics for most of them).

Yeah, it's really a matter of taste. I only ever saw one episode (the first one) and I thought it was all right, but I thought the song was awful and it really turned me off to the series.

The songs are the only reason I'd give to not try Sonic Underground - and on DVD you can fast-forward through them, so no worries!

Well Ive never seen it when I was little so I'll probly give it a try. Satam has to be the best Sonic cartoon to date though cuz Sonic X just wasn't that good but the animation definately was.

I just saw episode one on Youtube today...

This is what I wish I was doing. Have a final coming up on "Brave New World," and that just wasted my time.

Jaleel White played the voices of all three siblings, other actors obviously did the songs, and I pictured Sonia and Manics' voices MUCH differently. I was not impressed.

Now excuse me while I read about the many ways one can scientificaly alter the human body in the future.
I do not understand this book.

I really don't see how a simple one-minute song per episode can turn people off to the entire series...

It was'nt just the songs that turned me off to the series:

SatAM enviroment
Sonic a prince?
Sonic with siblings?
ALL voiced by J. White?!
Sleet and Dingo
Eggbotnik still off model, and this one's even more boring than SatAM's
Sonic fighting with instruments
The Songs.

Ditto. I belive so too Toby Barrett. DiC couldn't get any good ideas, so they just ripped it off of a loved, be-gotten show with basically the same elements.

Is the person who does Wakko's voice, acting for Sonic during the Songs?!!!

Although, the SatAM Robotnik wasen't that boring. He was very E-vi-el, even though he couldn't come up with a plan to stop Sonic.

I can't believe that I was able to tell JUST how bad this show was by watching one episode. I'm glad that I didn't miss out on anything when it aired.

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...eh? Sonic Underground is nothing like SatAm. For a start, Mobius in Sonic Underground actually has a civilian population rather than having every civvie Roboticised, which allows it to do stories SatAm wasn't able.

One episode is not enough to base an entire series on. If I hadn't grown up with SatAM, I'd think it was a load of crock, especially after seeing one episode. At least the Sonic Underground cast received better characterization that SatAM.

Sonic was much more intelligent in SU than SatAM. In SatAM, Sonic cheerfully entered a race planned by Robotnik even though he should've known it was a trap. In SU, Robotnik pulled the same stunt, yet Sonic knew better than to compete. Sonia and Manic thought he would, but he didn't. SU Sonic, if I'm remembering right, didn't use all the "mondo cool" lingo that he used in SatAM either.

His siblings were great characters in their own rights as well. Sonia had to adjust from an aristocratic life where she had everything she wanted to the life of a refugee, plus for a while she had to deal with the fact that her former fiance defected to Robotnik's side.

As for Manic, I loved his protrayal. He went from a crown prince to a lowly thief who had to rely on nothing but his wits and skills to survive. Not to mention that even after he discovered his heritage, he had to constantly deal with his kleptomania, a character flaw that would never have shown up in SatAM.

At least watch a few episodes before you dismiss it.

You do have some good points Unicorn. But I might have liked it better if Urkel's voice wasen't coming out of Sonia and Manic's voices! >_<

...eh? Sonic Underground is nothing like SatAm. For a start, Mobius in Sonic Underground actually has a civilian population rather than having every civvie Roboticised, which allows it to do stories SatAm wasn't able.

Same from both series:

Mobotropolis
Same exact Robotnik
Roboticization
Unckle Chuck
Freedom Fighters
Robotnik coming and enslaving the populace by turning everyone into his robotic slaves and changing the name of the city to Robotropolis (with the same exact monarchy building)
Stoping Sonic by coming up with a new plan that SOMEHOW fails in the end

Except for that last one, (which many Protagonist/Antagonist shows have) what makes you say that it's not the same show? They did add some new elements to it : Namely, Sleet and Dingo, Knuckles, and the musical elements, but it still had the same plot.

btw, Sonic did not have the same pizazz that he had from SatAM, which is another factor on why I didn't like it.

Except for that last one, (which many Protagonist/Antagonist shows have) what makes you say that it's not the same show?

Let's see.

1. Sonic actually has a family besides Uncle Chuck.
2. Sonic is more mature.
3. Since the Sonic Underground masqueraded as a music group, they never stayed in one place, thus allowing the writers to explore other places and other civilians.
4. The characters actually had some thought put into their characterizations. (ie. Manic being a kleptomaniac.)
5. We actually got a backstory for Sonic, something that was severely lacking in SatAM.
6. Not every civilian was roboticized, so the Sonic Underground could interact with more characters than the cast of SatAM could.

btw, Sonic did not have the same pizazz that he had from SatAM, which is another factor on why I didn't like it.

So, you liked Sonic being a childish, immature hedgehog who constantly spouted off phrases like "mondo cool?"

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SU Sonic, if I'm remembering right, didn't use all the "mondo cool" lingo that he used in SatAM either.

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I'm afraid he did, and it was horrible.

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They've both got a Mobo/Robotropolis, but due to the aforementioned non-Roboticised civilians it's a very different place. People live there and it's possible to live there.

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Same design, yes, but same character? He was far closer to AoStH and Sega Robotnik in his pettyness and being used for humour.

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He's in it but only as a cameo character who is never seen again.

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That's not a specifically SatAm element - Sonic the Comic did the same thing before SatAm aired in the UK. The Freedom Fighters are also made up of completely different characters to SatAm and operate in a different way: no central Sally-type leader, civilian sympathisers, nomadic cells rather than fixed ones, Sanctuary base.

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Well, yes. It's a Sonic cartoon, that's what's going to happen.

I wish to visit Mobotropolis.

Anyone have a brochure?

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I'm afraid he did, and it was horrible.

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He did? Huh, I must not remember as much as I thought I did.

He didn't do it to the same extent as he did in SatAm, but it's still there DAMN YOU DIC.

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Ehh. Gentrification wiped out much of its character.

Let's face it Unicorn and Charles, I'n not a fan of this.

What I said was true and what you guys said was also true. Let's just leave it at that.

I too wish to visit Mobotropolis. But since neither show ended, Robo is still there, and that's a place that will be left how it was when they were cancelled. Are you sure you still want to vist ROBOtropolis?
I hear they make good robo-cola.
And of course, the many hitchikers.

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What I said was true and what you guys said was also true.

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Since what we said contradicts what you said, I sort of doubt it...

Since it's all a matter of perception and taste anyway, I think that he's got a point.

Well, no. "Same exact Robotnik" is not a matter of perception and taste - either the SU and SatAm Robotniks are the same character acting exactly the same, or they're not.

I was talking about his apperance.

I'm stating that DiC couldn't come up with a new robo, so they just ripped it off a cancelled series.

About the Freedom Fighter bit, Chuck said that in episode one. They may not consist of the same co-workers, but it's name was used, and I didn't like that.

Well, they are a group of individuals who fight for freedom, therefore they're freedom fighters. It's not like the term was exclusive to SatAM.

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Oh that. Yeah, that's the same - DiC probably wanted to save some money by recycling existing designs.

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Be careful what you type. I run the Grammar Police.

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No offense, but if you're gonna have this following your every post, shouldn't you make sure said posts are error-free?

Yes, I do.

If they are wrong, It's because they are elliptical sentences, typos, or I wasen't sure. (I get A's on all my grammar tests just so you know)

Either that, or I'm off duty. =P

Now enough about my sig; I'll change it eventually when I get bored by it.

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Fix'd. >_>

Guys, knock it off. NOW.

This constant grammarian bickering and poking at CRC's sig and grammar crusade may be technically justified, but it's straying into too many topics.

CRC, you're not an English teacher, and this isn't a classroom. If I were to pull up everyone I saw make a spelling or grammar mistake, I'd probably have five times the post count I've already got.

This forum's open to a wide variety of people - it's not the staff's job to make blind assumptions about why someone you most likely don't know and've never met might choose not to use utterly correct book English in every single post they read, and it's not yours, either. As long as a post is legible and not too painful, we leave it at that.

I hope that you've figured out by now that I honestly don't like to offend people, so I hope that you'll understand when I say that this overly perfectionist attitude is actually inviting and encouraging these confrontations - particularly when you yourself aren't even adhering to the standards that you're trying to push on everyone else.

It's like coming in and proclaiming that you know "everything" about Sonic and nobody can stump you with a question - you're inviting people to knock you down.

I know that you're not trying to do anything deliberately disruptive and I'm not defending the actions of the posters who keep bringing the issue up and beating a dead horse about it, but I think that both sides in this're being needlessly petty.

You've all made your points. If neither side wants to listen, to keep nagging won't make anyone more inclined to listen than in any other dispute.

Give it a rest. Please. All of you.

To all Sonic Underground fans, please buy Sonic Underground Volume 1 on DVD on December 18, 2007 to boost sales to get Volume 2 of Sonic Underground out on DVD, Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog Volumes 2 and 3 on DVD and spread the word to other Sonic Underground fans to promote it!
I want to see the DVD release of Sonic Underground Volume 2 to come out in 2008 that I will get to complete the entire collection of Sonic Underground on DVD in two volumes containing 40 episodes. When will Volume 2 of Sonic Underground be released on DVD?

Jonny

Is another joke like that old batman comic were they say 'boner' every few lines?

~Tobe

"You dare laugh at Robotnik's boner?!" :"> O

So, I hear AoStH isn't selling well. Needless to say, if that series doesn't sell well, I see Sonic Underground--widely known as the least-liked and least-seen of the three DiC Sonic shows--selling like a lead balloon.

Quite a shame, too. I've always been a fan of the series, personally.

I am very sorry and sad to hear that Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog Volume 1 is not welling well and I hope that AOSTH Volume 1 sells well to get Volume 2 and 3 released. I also hope that Sonic Underground Volume 1 sells well to get Volume 2 released and also AOSTH Volume 2 and 3 released. Please keep your fingers crossed.

Jonny

I really hope that the outlook for the AoStH DVD set will improve. I've wanted a complete collection of this show for a LONG time.

I'm looking forward to the Sonic Underground box set; I hope it will at least sell the minimum required (15,000, I believe) to warrant the release of the last volume.

When will Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog Volume 1 start selling well and start improving in sales? Will I see Volume 2 and 3 of Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog when they get released on DVD that I want to see the remaining 44 episodes along with bonus materials of how to draw tails, dr. robotnik, etc. to complete the entire collection?

Jonny