Well its here, and much sooner than i expected.
SPOiLERS
See Sonic! Sea Battle! See Sonic Sea Battle!
This issue starts off with a nice Silver Age title page, and actually follows a Silver Age writing style for the next three pages. I think it would've worked better with a more decidedly American artwork though.
The President's mission from last issue is to go investigate a Sunken boat off of Emerald Coast for a possible hidden chaos emerald. Everyone then begins to point out this is almost exactly like some other adventure, presumedly from an episode of the sho i never saw. The President agrees the similarities are striking, and says thats why he wants sonic to investigate.
Unbeknownst to them, Eggman set some power rings in the ship to lure Sonic there, where he can attack them using two new dragon-bots. these dragon bots are "piloted" by two commodo dragons Eggman found, and powered by power ring batteries Eggman made from the rings he stole last issue.
So Sonic finds himself undersea, and between pages four and five i believe there is a week break, based on Eggman's comments of issue one being a week ago. While down under the sea Sonic, with Rouge and Topaz, is attacked by a shark. After a short scuffle, a mysterious hand give topaz a candelabrun, which the shjark bites, breaks its teeth on, then runs away.
then, the scene cuts to an unexpected dream sequence, chronicling Sonic's...oh, wait, no, that's just another Bionicle insert. no wonder the issue felt heftier than usual.
Eggman attcks, and Sonic's team isn't having much luck, until that same mystery character who helped topaz opens the battery to one robot, and lets free its commodo dragon. The battery open,s revealing two power rings, which Sonic uses to smash the other bot.
Inj the end, the day is won, and it turns out the mysterious helper is the ghost of Captain Red-Eye, whos invisible to everyone else.
Don't worry, Eggman still swears revenge.
I liked this issue, though not as much as the last. the arts still shakey, but check out page 18, panel 5. who does that remind you of?
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the ghost of Captain Red-Eye
after reading my review, i noticed i hadnt made the Captain Red-Eye bit clear. Captain Red-Eye was supposed to be this old pirate who lost his ship and treasure. the ship they were investigating was believed by the President to be Red-Eye's sunken ship. It's really not as lame in the actual comic.
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this issue was better than the first one but it is still rubbish. archie are tring to make mini-series but it isent working. also sonic x should have a cover thats related to the iss. fianlly at page 2 panel 1 it says *run right out and read issue one, if you haven't already. well? hurry up! speaks for itself.
I hope nobody needs to hear an explanation of the fact that Red-Eye's ship is named the "MacGuffin."
What's the icon for "I think I'm gonna hurl"?
you are a 
joking! i think its this 
Wait.
Why is Eggman in his episode 1-13 base and Knuckles is standing on Angel Island which didn't appear until episode 26?
...Where does any of this fit in?
at the time joe wrote this issue, he wasn't aware that the base had been destroyed. luckily, the he caught his mistake before printing and was able to add the word rebuilt to make up for it. we probably won't be seeing it again.
Actually, you'll be seeing the base for quite a while. Several issues had already been written before the mistake was pointed out to me. I think I was scripting issue six when it was brought to my attention. There are more gags about it in issue six. I was able to slip "rebuilt" in after I'd turned in the final balloon placements on #2 after the priview for #1 was posted on Newsarama.
I haven't decided what I'm going to do with the extra base ultimately. I get the sneaking suspicion I'll blow it up eventually so I can return things to the status quo, but when, where, how, and under what circumstances I'll do it I have not yet determined.
I'm sure there will be a few other bumps in the road in the early issues that were written before I had adequate access to episodes (and there are still some I have not seen or seen in order as they have not been released legally on DVD). I just hope you'll bear with me as I get my footing cuz I'm having fun writing the book and hope you will have fun reading it in spite of the missteps.
--Joe Edkin
the blowing up is a great idea 
I'm really glad you care about all this continuity things Joe, definately a great nod to the fans. Normally fans have to do the dirty work and find excuses for continuity holes,
So, Joe. Assuming these comics take place after Super Sonic's mass Chaos Control in episode 26. All of this takes place after Sonic Adventure 2's adaption, as it's clearly stated that in the 6 months between episodes 26 and 27 Eggman has been hiding at the bottom of the ocean creating the Egg Carrier and E-100's.
I know the set-up doesn't change too much, if at all (besides Cream and Vanilla being the only ones who live in Chris' home now. Tails having his workshop in Mystic Ruins and Amy having her apartment in Station Square) but it's important to know just where in the deep end we're being dropped in. Neither issue really states where we are and as you've not gone out of your way to make Sonic X a seperate continuity it's just leaving me confused.
Just promise me you'll feature E-77 (LUCKY!) at some point and I'll love the series regardless
Or maybe some lesser-used game characters, like the Battlebird Armada, Mighty, Ray, Fang, Witchcart and her posse, etc...
...not NOW, obviously, but later on in the series. MUCH later on if need be.
*Slaps the fanboy* Stop hogging the continuity with your pesky Sega obscurities! *Laughs*
But, yeah. Don't let us hastle you. If you end up listening to fans, you'll be copying Sega, in other words, shooting yourself in the foot, fans are a cowardly superstitious bunch, we need to be told to sit down, shut up and enjoy.
But not us.
We're the good type of fans *Cackles*
I'm not going to quote all of Craig's post as it is only a couple posts above this one and it seems silly to repeat it here. However, I do want to try to address the points made because they deserve comment.
When I started working on Sonic X (when it was originally going to be a mini-series), I had seen only a handful of episodes. There was (and is) no show bible (but there are lots of character design sheets--with text in Japanese, so that doesn't help me as the writer too much; and later I was provided with dub scripts and other reference, although these weren't always helpful in establshing the whos, whats, wheres, whys, or whens). I did my best trying to piece things together as best I could (using what episodes I could lay my hands on legally and sites such as Sonic HQ), but as I've said, there are many glitches. Some I'll be able to cover. Some not so much. I'll do the best I can. Things should tighten up as we go along as I gather more information.
Issue 2 underwent many revamps because the original plot I'd submitted was almost a complete retread of Episode 16--except I had never seen episode 16! Since the plot had been approved and it was too late to go back and get a new plot approved, I had to do a lot of fast changes when writing the script in order to make it sufficiently different from the TV show (hence acknowledging the original adventure and the addition of the ghost, etc.).
It's very hard for me to track some information down. I still can't find the name for Topaz's boss at G.U.N. and he's going to become a recurring character for a story arc. The kind folks on this and other boards have been very helpful in answering questions, and I do appreciate that, but there are still holes I'm trying to fill.
I have to admit the timeline is going to be messy for a while, and I apologize for that. I have seen many of the episodes out of order (and there are still some I have never seen) so I'm trying to stitch things together as best I can.
For example, until I read Craig's post, I was under the impression that Sonic, Tails, Amy, Cream, and Cheese all lived with Chris. I remember seeing Amy in an apartment while Sonic was missing. I wasn't sure when, why, or how she wound up there as the episode did not provide any context for it (i.e., how does she afford an apartment? Does she have a job?). I didn't realize that Tails lived in his workshop. (And if Cream and Vanilla are the only ones living at Chris's, where does Sonic live?) Yikes! If there is an accurate timeline of events that someone can point me to, that would be a great help!
I'm trying to give clues in the context of the stories to indicate when the events are happening, but I can understand how things can be confusing for people who follow the continuity closely. Editor Mike Pellerito and I discussed whether or not we should have a footnote somewhere every issue explaining when each issue's story was happening, but we came to the conclusion that casual readers wouldn't know episodes by episode number or by epsiode titles. I don't want to spend a lot of time on flashbacks to establish time as there are only 22 pages in every issue, and any time/space used on flashback to old stories is less time for new stories. It's a very difficult tightrope to walk, but I will try to find a way to make things clearer.
There are references to the Egg Carrier in issues 8 and 9 (although we won't see it as it's not important to the plot). The robots in issue four are more akin to the E series, although not flat out E bots.
As for Lucky, I am trying to work all of the characters in at one point or another, so be patient. There are a LOT of characters, and only so much space in any given issue.
--Joe Edkin
I wasn't sure when, why, or how she wound up there as the episode did not provide any context for it (i.e., how does she afford an apartment? Does she have a job?).
They did it to align things with SA1 and give some screentime to Chris angsting about how everyone had changed.
SA1's plotline is that everyone had grown apart since their last adventure and were living seperate lives, in which the Chaos saga brings them together.
In Sonic X this is justified by a 6 month timeskip between the E-99 Egg Emporer battle and the first episode of the Chaos saga.
As for Sonic. Sonic doesn't "live" anywhere. He just runs free and wild. No one had seen him in the 6 months between E-99 and Chaos, and it was justified in the same way as the game: He was exploring/adventuring elsewhere.
Don't think too hard about it, neither game nor anime make sense most of the time.
If you'd like we can help compile a list of info for you, if it would help Sonic X become the definitive "Sega Friendly" comic, I'm all for it, especially with the main comic having lost Karl Bollers.
The best idea to have for continuity placing is to keep it casual for the time being, until you're in stride, then move along in a coherant manner.
Here are a list of the huge events:
Episode 1-13: Everyone lives at Chris' house, Eggman is working from his island base, doing his "Monster of the Week" thing. It's just general set up. Nothing to be concerned with, most agree that these episodes are crap anyway. Tornado 2 is replaced with X-Tornado.
Episodes 14-25: Same set-up, Eggman is in his floating "Egg Forte" base (Egg Forte II transformed into Egg Emporer and was destroyed). Everyone is searching for the Chaos Emeralds to go back home. Knuckles is off searching alone, everyone else is at Chris' house. President's male secutary is fired, and will become a reoccuring homeless man for comic relief. He is replaced by attractive Not!Maria, who looks completely different from the games to stop people speculating. (fanboy joke. Don't worry 🙂 )
Episodes 25-26: Minor note that this is the first time that G.U.N start using Eggman's technology. Also, Super Sonic's first appearance. Chaos Control which brings Angel Island and Mystic Ruins to Earth.
27-32: Sonic Adventure 1 plot. Big and Froggy meet main characters, Chaos and Tikal are known and huge events. Station Square is destroyed (rebuilt by next plot).
33-38: Sonic Adventure 2 plot. Shadow is released (Do NOT use him, unless you have a way of undoing. He "Dies" in this continuity, and returns in the second series. I'll get to that in the spoiler zone), G.U.N's military gains robots. Stewart meets Scarlet Garcia as a spy.
39: Chaotix and Vanilla arrive on Earth.
40-41: Eggman rebuilds the moon by coating half of it in metal (useful to remember. Sonic fans tend to get anal about the moon in the game getting back on it's own)
42-46: Kids find out Stewart is a spy (Scarlett also sees him as teacher). Emerl is used. Cream flies and fights for first time in series.
47-52: It's established that Earth and Sonic's World run on different time streams and their connection will tear both worlds apart unless Sonic and co go home, thusly they all do, despite Chris' objections.
No need to get into Series 2 spoilers until it's been aired completely.
That's the major "continuity changes" I can think of, unless someone can add. Nothing is major, which is why I don't think you need to panic about anything (the issue with the base just made me worry. I appologise for getting geeky fanboy on you)
The problem is that there's a nasty timelimit on things, currently we can factor that you're working in the 6 months between E-99 and Chaos (again, as detailed in the "Sonic X For Dummies" thread, which is superb!), but as the series is wrapped up in a neat little bow (and the second series takes place in Sonic's reality), it MAY mean you'll have to bulldose over the cartoon and make your own definitive comic continuity.
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The problem is that there's a nasty timelimit on things, currently we can factor that you're working in the 6 months between E-99 and Chaos
Er... no, I don't think that's so. Issues 1-9 take place BETWEEN Chaos and Shadow, so I have been led to believe, and so I stated in the For Dummies thread, although that doesn't make a lot of sense to me because those are supposed to happen in quick succession I thought, but I can suspend my disbelief in this case.
I suppose that could work too, but that would mean Station Square is destroyed o.o
Consider: we have the writer for the book, Joe Edkin, replying to fan inquiries, supplying us with a look behind the curtain, and admitting that SX2 "overlapped" Ep 16 to a significant degree.
This is way more than we fans have received in the past. I don't know to what extent other comic artists/writers communicate with the fans like this, but it's certainly been facilitated by the Internet. This kind of communication helps break down the old notion that our only options as fans are to Take It Or Leave It when it comes to the writing of stories. I don't mind the subversion of the Writer-As-Hierophant role and take it as a welcome development.
But that's just me.
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I don't know to what extent other comic artists/writers communicate with the fans like this
It's quite common with some creators.
Please, no more separate continuities. It's wonderful that so many people are willing to help out Mr. Edkins, and that he's willing to listen to the fans gripe about the continuity. But It would be great to be able to think of the games and the Sonic X cartoon / comics as one thing.
Dude!! THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR BASHING.
If you are going to complain about the comic, make your own topic...Read the rules before posting...
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Bumping old topics is perfectly fine as long as you don't spam. Don't bump a poll or topic unless you add something insightful or interesting to the discussion, and make sure that you are not repeating something that was already said or answering a question that was already answered by only reading only a couple of pages out of a 10-12 page topic (read all the pages first).
Yeah...This topic died about half a year ago...Leave it be.
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But It would be great to be able to think of the games and the Sonic X cartoon / comics as one thing.
Yeah, it would. It would also be great if there was no evil in the world, but unfortunatly that's not the case.
Aside from all those formalites, Welcome to the MoFo... Be sure to post an introduction in the MFC (MoFo Central)...
Bashing? I don't think so. Though I do feel that his post would have been better served in the general ask about Sonic X thread.
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But It would be great to be able to think of the games and the Sonic X cartoon / comics as one thing.
An impossibility due to the overall design of the cartoon.
