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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #203
"Heavy is the Head Part One": Sonic learned last issue that the villains of the Iron Dominion were no push-overs. Now the fight gets personal! And when the Iron Queen arrives to show just how powerful she is, the life of a Freedom Fighter hangs in the balance!
PLUS: "Friend in Deed": Knuckles must fight the fight everyone dreads, as he faces off against a former colleague-turned-traitor within the Chaotix!
SCRIPTS: Ian Flynn
ART: Steven Butler
Shipping Date: July 5th, 2009
On Sale at Comic Specialty Shops: July 12th, 2009
On Sale on Newsstands: August 25th, 2009
32-page, full color comic
$2.50 US

SONIC UNIVERSE #7
PART THREE OF THE EPIC "MOBIUS: 30 YEARS LATER" TALE!
"What's Old is New Again": King Sonic has been evicted from his castle with only Lara-Su at his side! What's a deposed king to do? Gather up some Freedom Fighters, that's what! But who? And from where? This pulse-pounding tale allows readers to see some familiar faces as the Future Freedom Fighters assemble for the first time!
SCRIPT: Ian Flynn
ART: Tracy Yardley
Shipping Date: July 19th, 2009
On Sale at Comic Specialty Shops: July 26th, 2009
On Sale on Newsstands: September 8th, 2009
32-page, full color comic
$2.50 US

Looks exciting so far. I love both covers, Tracy and Spaz did great jobs.

Shamelessly copied and pasted from Bumbleking:

I'm guessing that Regina is using mind control on Bunnie. Maybe she is blackmailing her with something, or using something from her past to convince her? Maybe she does tie into that ninja girl we saw with Regina, or something like that. As for the traitor within the Chaotix, it seems fairly obvious to me that it's supposed to be Espio. I'm sure that it has something to do with the Iron Queen too. Looks like an exciting issue.

As for SU#7, ick at King Shadow coming back. I'll be happy with some of the Freedom Fighters from the future that we haven't seen before. Should be at least mildly interesting.

 
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Looks like Bunnie might be the " debatable " spoiler villain on the Villain Tier List and Espio is going to land there as well. Seems logical that every space without (spoiler) is a preexisting character. The other two non-spoilers may be Snively and The Iron King. The interesting thing about it is that the preview seems to imply that Espio is not being controlled. Is it possible he's a Sleeper Agent for the Iron Dominion and is willfully working for them?

The answer seems to be ... come on ... he's a NINJA!

... wait. Why am I getting the feeling Bunnie's going out and Monkey Khan's coming in to help the Freedom Fighters in her absence?

That's ... just ... not acceptable.

Speaking of Shadow ... I'm taking bets that the crystallized former-King will thaw and this'll dissolve into a brawl.

... my post on the SU5 topic almost three months ago. This is outrageous.

 
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Yeah, I don't think Espio is being controlled. I think his new actions have something to do with the visitor he gets in #201, and I think that's related to Regina. I'm guessing maybe it has something to do with the "Bride of 4 Houses bit".

I forgot about that villain list... I'm guessing that Bunnie isn't going to be under Regina's influence for long, so I'll say she fits in as the "set-up only" villain. Also, as I pointed on Bumble king, Ian gave us some info a little while back, but one bit in particular seems fitting for this:

Who is "Coolie-Hat-Maybe-Rabbit-Lynx Girl?" Some folks are already pretty close. She ties directly into the the meaning behind "Bride of Four Houses" and will prove to be a pivotal character in a pre-established character's life.

I'm guessing Coolie-hat girl is either linked to Espio, or more likely Bunnie.

As for the spoiler person that is "debatable" I figure that's the Iron King or Snivley, since you would expect them to be linked with Regina. As for some other people on that list, I figure that The Yagyu ninjas, Lord Yagyu, Lien-Da, and the DEL fits on there as well as Regina (at the top), Iron King, Coolie-Hat Girl and Snively. Not sure if Dimitri will really fit on there, since I'm not so sure he'll be sticking with them for long... Or at least not as teh Grandmaster of the DEL. Of course, then that leaves one spoiler villain on that list... Maybe it's the person that Espio meets in #201?

 
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I agree that Bunnie is probably being mind controled or blackmailed; I wouldn't like the idea of her truly going bad.

As for Sonic Universe #7, I don't like the idea of Shadow coming back in this, but hopefully by the end everything will be resolved and Sonic will get his family and kingdom back. As for the Future Freedom Figthers, if they can be from any time I could see Manic or Sonia being in it, I could see at least one of them fallowing in their parents footsteps. If Manic and Sonia are anything like their father, it would be like them to try to take part and help out in things, even if they are too young. Also, Lara-Su, and the children of the other Freedom Fighters(Antione and Bunnie, Tails)could be in this group.

 
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...Hope King Sonic had been working out. I have to say that I don't really like this. However, at the very least this will prove interesting. I wonder if King Shadow (they forgot to take the crown away from him...) got some outside help, perhaps from Lien Da.

 
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I'm guessing that Bunnie isn't going to be under Regina's influence for long, so I'll say she fits in as the "set-up only" villain.

... I'm not sure. Remember Silver's calling out of a traitor on the Freedom Fighters? Maybe he was right in the sense that someone did enough to seriously shake up the group. Bunnie sure had enough power in her corner to have the potential to do something devastating when prompted with being the team's " Heavy Hitter " and all. It just might not be a willful betrayal like Espio's is turning out to be. I imagine when Silver went back to continue his investigation he uncovered the truth too late to do anything about it ... again.

I'd want Regina (who I'm calling Regina F. over The Iron Queen because it's less silly) to maintain control of Bunnie for a while if she's really going to do it. More then an issue anyway. Then whatever resolution would seem like less of a cop out then the MANY mind control stories that were done in the past and resolved before anything can really build from it.

'Sides ... it seems wrong for Bunnie to be on the same tier as Nack, Bean, and Bark.

...Hope King Sonic had been working out.

The preview suggests he got beaten pretty easily by Kommisar of all people (she launched an attack last issue's preview) who went on to revive King Shadow for brownie points. You know ... the person commanding the Legion that Sonic beat around easily in 199 - 200 in the current timeline.

I'm not liking how Sonic's proven himself to be completely useless in the new timeline as far as handling things. Sure he's in his forties but there's been characters who are much older but are still fighting like they're in their prime (Shadow, the Brotherhood, possibly Dr. Finitevus, ect). I'd also like to think he'd be trying to get himself fit not only after getting his life turned around but after that eye opening defeat to King Shadow the last go around but that just doesn't seem to be the case.

He's not an old man ...

As for the Future Freedom Fighters

Complete shot in the dark but I'm guessing:

Lara-Su, a child of Bunnie's, a child of Tails', Rutan, Little John, Alexis, and a child of Mina's. Manic and Sonia are out because they and Sally were captured and imprisoned. I want to say Silver too but it's possible he too was captured if he didn't escape the castle with Lara-Su and Sonic.

 
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I imagine when Silver went back to continue his investigation he uncovered the truth too late to do anything about it ... again.

He time travels; he can go to any point in the timeline and warn them.

 
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I just figured that the Traitor thing now takes place in SU's M:30YL. After all, he appears there with a warning for King Sonic, so it could very well be that it's in the alternate time-line there's a traitor. Silver is notorious for being mistaken anyway, so it could still all work. I figured Bunnie could take that position, only because it was set-up only, and she wouldn't be one for long. Also, I don't think she'd really want to hurt her firiends unless something beyond her control came up, and I sill think she's a hero at heart, so I think it could still work.

I'm not convinced that Bunnie turns on them for that long. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a couple issues, but not too long.

 
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He time travels; he can go to any point in the timeline and warn them.

That's the beauty of it ... Silver already warned them about the traitor in time; he just accused the wrong Freedom Fighter. Even if he guessed the right one Sonic and the others wouldn't have allowed Silver to kill Bunnie just like Rob didn't allow Silver to kill Sonic. It doesn't matter when Silver warned them because they wouldn't have believed him.

Now when I say " Freedom Fighters " I'm talking about Sonic, Sally, Rotor, Bunnie, Antoine, Tails, and Amy. Though Freedom Fighters / Chaotix seem to be interchangeable these days I don't consider them a part of the Team. He could very well have been talking about Espio. His description was pretty vague; a member of the Legendary Freedom Fighters. Maybe the incident that propelled them to that status was the downfall of Eggman and Espio was there.

I just figured that the Traitor thing now takes place in SU's M:30YL. After all, he appears there with a warning for King Sonic, so it could very well be that it's in the alternate time-line there's a traitor.

Meh ... Kommisar started the coup but she doesn't fit the description. I don't imagine she'd be in good standings with Sonic after helping King Shadow and being a witch in general.

So maybe I'm wrong about Bunnie ... but who else could it be and why?

Originally I really wanted Silver to be right on the money with accusations but be rebuked by the Freedom Fighters and everyone else. Sonic doing something that he'd come to regret on an impulse seemed to be a long time coming. Not that he'd shack up with Regina and crew because that's definitely not his style but there's other things he could have done. Maybe because he wasn't there with the Freedom Fighters they got wiped out and everyone thought it was Sonic's fault in a distant future and that too was a misunderstanding like the Bunnie thing.

 
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Lien-Da doesn't fit the bill, she's not an FF. But something else in SU might happen, like Lien-Da might have some control over Rotor or something like that.

I don't think Silver's on the money. He's notorious for having only half-truths, and being mistaken. He doesn't really strike me as being right about this one thing. If someone does betray the FFs, I think it won't be by their choice, or it will be an accident. Even then, I don't think it will wipe them out. In the current time-line, the one who fits the bill best is Bunnie by the looks of things, but I don't think she'll cause anything to drastic to happen if she can help it, or by her choice.

 
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If someone does betray the FFs, I think it won't be by their choice, or it will be an accident. Even then, I don't think it will wipe them out. In the current time-line, the one who fits the bill best is Bunnie by the looks of things, but I don't think she'll cause anything to drastic to happen if she can help it, or by her choice.

I agree. The betrayal won't be by choice if it's Bunnie but a betrayal is a betrayal regardless of the circumstances behind it. Also agree on another aspect; no matter what happens it won't be enough to kill the Freedom Fighters in the current timeline. Even that might not be enough to save Silver's future, though, since there seems to be other aspects in time travel that prevent things from improving in the future even if changes were made in the past.

There's a chance things could get much, much, worst.

Edit: Noticed Heavyink didn't give Sonic 203 its titles. Here they are from the Archie Sonic Blog:

" Heavy is the Head Part One " (main) and " Friend in Deed " (backup).

 
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Well one thinks of it, doesn't that lynx girl at the end of 200 have the same color scheme and identical look as Bunnie.

Maybe Ian might do a shapeshifter in this story to make Bunnie look like a traitor and that lynx girl will have something to with it.

 
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I put up the full sized covers and previews for this post now.

Rosas- I don't think the Bunnie is the lynx girl. I think Bunnie might have some relation to her, but I think that is genuinley Bunnie that we're seeing on the cover.

 
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Very true Bsonic10, but with someone like Ian you never really know. In fact someone on the YT Site said that if they pull some crap, that Anti-Bunnie is now good, so Bunnie Prime has to be bad, will be like giving a giant middle finger to every Bunnie Rabbot Fan out there and overall piss all the fans of Sonic off.

But this is what I said to them, "No that won't happen, because there is a story way back, where we meet Anti-Knuckles and he's good, just as Knuckles Prime is".

Besides remember the cover for 178, it said friends no more! And we got caught up into that. It's just Ian messing with us. Besides if he does make Bunnie Bad, that's like Ken Penders trying to kill off Sally in ENDGAME, the majority of the fanbase will be pissed off as hell, and the comic will lose a lot subscribers and support from the fanbase.

 
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I think you're overreacting just a bit. It seems kind of obvious that Bunnie is under The Iron Queen's influence while Espio (the other traitor) is not.

That doesn't make her genuinely evil. It just makes her a victim for the time being.

 
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Sonic 202 and 203 come out within the same week?

 
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Well one thinks of it, doesn't that lynx girl at the end of 200 have the same color scheme and identical look as Bunnie.

If different hair colour/style, eye colour, muzzle colour, giant wide black-tipped tufted ears and a total lack of robotic limbs count as identical, sure.

 
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I think you're overreacting just a bit. It seems kind of obvious that Bunnie is under The Iron Queen's influence while Espio (the other traitor) is not.

That doesn't make her genuinely evil. It just makes her a victim for the time being.

Yeah, I think the Iron Queen's got something on Bunnie that doesn't really give her a choice in the matter. I've provided numerous ideas elsewhere, and I don't feel like restating, but I just don't think it's going to be her turning forever.

Nor do I think Espio will really turn of his own volition for that matter. I think it will be one of those things where he has to follow one of his ninja codes, or his visitor has something on him that makes him turn.

 
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Or the kung-fu rabbit we saw with the Iron Queen has blood ties with Bunnie and it becomes a matter of family.

 
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She looks nothing like a rabbit. XD

 
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Perhaps not Toby, but maybe she is a stepsister in someway. Now Ian might use shapeshifting, cause we haven't seen that in the comic before, not that I know of.

 
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She looks like Lightening Lynx. She's a ninja like Lightening Lynx. I think it would be safe to guess that she's probably a lynx.

 
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sally's half squirrel/chipmunk/reptile/monkey or whatever. there's no reason why that wouldn't apply here.

 
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Except she already looks very similar to Lightning and Nicole, so why complicate things?

 
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it's just speculation. i'm just saying that it's not impossible for the two to be related. it would make more sense then her being related to lightning lynx, he's had like 5 speaking lines in his history as a character so it wouldn't make sense to even bring him into this storyline.

 
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And maybe she's just another random lynx. Not every member of a species in the comic has to be related.

 
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Turns out it was Lightning Lynx.

 
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And the female lynx is named Conquering Storm, and they apparently belong to the same ninja clan (as does Espio?) and ALL KINDS OF #*!@ BE GOING DOWN, YO.

 
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And maybe she's just another random lynx. Not every member of a species in the comic has to be related.

you could be right. i don't remember anyone saying that bunnie even had family. so yeah that's definitely possible.

 
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I think that bunnies legs and left arm is being controlled by the iron queen because she is using her magitek ability explained in #202

 
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