Spectre sensed him, Hawking, and Tobor (though no one knew it at the time) dying, and if Mathias were going to come back he would probably have done it before now.
Wait? When? Help me out here.
(Sorry for dragging this out, I'm just using Spectre to get all the info I need since TR put me in stasis lock 
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That was in Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog issue #107, where Chaos Knuckles used his powers to bring back the population of Echidnaopolis from the dimension where they'd been teleported by the Quantum Beam weapon built by the Dark Legion. When the Brotherhood returned, Locke questioned the absence of Mathias, and Spectre reported that Hawking was gone as well.
Asked what he meant, he informed them that he had sensed Mathias and Hawking joining into "the next evolution"-which I can only assume is the afterlife. He also reported that he sensed another passing on with them, who readers knew to be Tobor. Of course, Spectre had no idea that his father was still alive, as he had been lost on Mobius Prime for years and impersonated by Moritori Rex. As a result, they were unaware of the identity of the third dead Guardian, and for a moment Locke worried it might be Knuckles. Fortunately, Knuckles contacted him with his then unrivaled powers, reassuring him that he was alright.
Stasis lock? Are you a Transfan?
the fact is, i don't think even ken had his brotherhood facts straight. TR could more than likely make a better story than him. hence why the brotherhood is "gone" it's a way so that when they come back, all the clutter and crap that's surrounding them will be gone. like "who's alive and who isn't?" i almost guarantee that it will be gone.
Let's hope it is.
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"who's alive and who isn't?"
Spectre alive plz. 
No OBJECTION from me @Spiner
As far as we know, all the Brotherhood members who haven't been confirmed dead-namely Spectre, Thunderhawk, Sojourner, Sabre, and Locke-are alive. While most those who are even aware of their existence believe all but Locke to be dead, there has been no actual proof that they are and Locke himself is currently searching for them.
And yes, Spiner and Darkest Light, I too hope that Spectre is still alive if any of them are.
Quick question. I haven't been actively following the comics recently, so what issue was it that the Brotherhood vanished?
There was no actual issue, but they went missing sometime in the year long gap preceding the Home arc (#126-#129), when Robotnik took over Angel Island. I think the last time we actually saw them was at Knuckles' funeral in, like #118.
They've been missing for that long? I wonder what happened to them.
I'm curious if either Ken or Karl had a plan for them or whether they were just forgotten about.
Hopefully, Ian'll rectify that.
Apparently we're gonna get some answers in the upcoming Enerjak arc - so with a bit of luck we should know before the year is out.
As you say, MattManic, the Enerjak arc is supposed to clarify where the Brotherhood's been. The Brotherhood disappeared-timeline wise-during the events of "Tossed in Space", issues #126-129, as has been previously stated. However, their disappearance was first made known unto readers and most of the characters in issue #139, where Lien-Da revealed that they had disappeared after defeating Dr. Robotnik's efforts to seize the Master Emerald when he joined forces with the Dingoes to take over Angel Island. As for where they disappeared to, or why, we don't know yet-again, it'll probably be in the #180-#? Enerjak arc that's beginning in September.
Dr. Finitivus- this guy has shown to be power mad enough to be the one.
Dr. Finitivus-, he's been shown to be power mad to do it. And betray anyone he feels like to gain power.
Careful of those back-to-back posts, Alex.
I have a feeling that, for whoever's read 178, Knux is about to stumble upon the plot that leads to this. Since he IS going to Angel Island (and alone), it wouldn't hurt to say he's going to be the host.
What Aldran said. Just edit things into your original post in future, please.
Right you are Aldran; matter of fact, that very thing is being discussed somewhat in the #178 spoiler thread. Knuckles will undoubtedly stumble into this in some way, though at this point we can't know if he'll end up being forced to take on the identity of Enerjak or just get captured and no doubt beaten to a pulp by the reborn bad guy.
Can you guys keep the #178 stuff in the #178 thread. Some people purposely avoid the threads because they don't want to know what happens in the issues until they get a chance to read them. #178 just came out too.
What Red said, hey, I'm a poet. When I first read that I was thinking shouldn't that be a spoiler and was wondering when a mod/admin would say something.
Well, that's the bad thing about forums like this: any spoilers even vaguely related to a topic end up getting posted.
That is what spoiler tags are for you know.
And also the designated spoiler topics.
Well unfortunately, some people don't make use of those.
No no no, you don't get to brush it off like it's just a suggestion. There are spoiler topics and the ability to hide your spoilers for a reason; people shouldn't have to have things ruined for them just because you consider yourself above using them.
What Matt said. The spoiler tags're thee because we have rules about spoilers that you have to obey in one way or another.
Once again, I submit to the two of you. Admittedly, the reason a lot of people don't put up spoiler tags or anything is probably because they don't know how-they're just so anxious to get stuff posted that they don't think about it. I'm not trying to excuse it, I'm just stating the facts.
Anyway, since we've basically played out the Enerjak scenarios, who has thoughts on what'll happen to Finitevus, Scourge, Fiona, and the Destructix? Sure, Finitevus is probably going to be Enerjak's new second-in-command, but what about the others? And what if the new Enerjak turns out to hate Finitevus? It definitely bears thinking about.
Spoilers (Select To Read): EDIT: Further support for Knuckles as Enerjak! Apparently, in issue #178 or so, Dimitri ditches Finitevus and disappears, obviously deciding that being Enerjak again isn't fun. Finitevus is told this by Scourge, and he totally blows it off, saying that Enerjak will be reborn one way or another. And since Knuckles happens to be heading for Angel Island in #178...
Do the math.
Thanks Matt. Going on from my last post, I'm thinking that Scourge isn't going to be too keen on someone else doing what he did a few issues back: draining the energy of the Master Emerald. Not only does Scourge have to watch as Enerjak steals the power he wanted, but he has to live with the fact that he can't do anything to get ahold of the Master Emerald's power unless Enerjak gets defeated. In other words, he's stuck in a tie with Sonic and Shadow when it comes to combat ability, something that doesn't sound like it would appeal to Scourge.
There is one thing to remember, is that Archie has tricked us with misleading covers too. Remember Amy and the white chaos emerald? When we thought that was supposed to be what triggered her age advancement? (Something that was FULL of possible character develoment but never explored.)
You've got a point there, Alex, but you have to remember that the White Emerald was featured in that story-or so I assume. The comic covers may be misleading at times, but in certain details they're quite accurate. Assuming that the picture on #181's cover isn't misleading, the physical evidence points to Knuckles as the new Enerjak.
Actually, no, there was no white chaos emerald in that issue.
Hence it was totally misleading.
Of course, it could have just been artistic error or a change in story. I mean, all it did was swap one magical item for another - the basic idea of "Amy using the power of something to change herself" is still there. Besides, the ring looks like just that - a ring. The emerald may have just been more effective visually.
Spoilers (Select To Read): I still think Locke will be Enerjak. Even ignoring the red echidna cover: he is going to be Angel Island. in 178 Knuckles even tells JulieSu "I'll have my dad there to back me up." Locke has demonstrated a ends-justify-the-means willingness to solve problems. He's partnered with Fini before, can tap into chaos power, and under the right circumstances would be willing to become Enerjak. F'rinstance he may think it the only way to stop the warring Legionaires on AI. Or if the Brotherhood is trapped somewhere he may think he needs the extra power to rescue them. Knuckles' who was so uncomfortable being the Avatar, I cannot see delibratly becoming Enerjak.
I may have totaly read it wrong, but this is how I see it. Spectre, if it turns out to be Knuckles I'll give you and anyone else that infered correctly props but please don't say things like 'do the math' as if there's only one possible outcome people could reach.
Thank you for your admonishments, Ms. Puar. However, I would like to point something out:
Spoilers (Select To Read): Last we heard, Locke had left Angel Island in search of the Brotherhood. Since we're supposed to find out what happened to them in the new Enerjak arc, I don't think he's going to be back with them that soon. Besides, Knuckles-and just about everyone else-is unaware that Locke has left Angel Island and that Finitevus is now in possession of the Master Emerald. If they did know, then the Chaotix and the Freedom Fighters wouldn't let Knuckles go alone: they'd go with him and bring along as many Kingdom of Acorn troops as could be spared.
Edit:Besides, who says that Knuckles willingly-if indeed he does-becomes Enerjak? I could see Finitevus ordering the Destructix to beat him down, then strapping him into some sort of machine that transfers power from the Master Emerald into his body similar to a Chaos Syphon. Given Dimitri's experience in becoming the first Enerjak, Knuckles-or anyone else-would most likely go insane just like he did.
As for Locke, I can't see him agreeing to become Enerjak any more than Knuckles would. Sure, he does seem more accustomed to "making deals with the devil", but I doubt even he would go that far. He left Angel Island so he could find the Brotherhood; as far as he seems to be concerned, they're all that's needed to get Angel Island back in order with or without the Legion's help. And if the Legion ends up destroying itself...no fur off of his back.
I apologize for being all condescending and saying that all the evidence points to Knuckles as the new Enerjak; my opinions always get away from me.
Aw, there's no need to apologize. I was 99% sure you didn't mean anything harsh by it. There's a strong case for Knux as well and hearing new theories kicked around certainly helps pass the time quicker! ^__^
I'm glad to hear it, and I wasn't just apologizing. In case you didn't know, I have a tendency to get carried away, and I appreciate how my fellow Sonic fans on this site have been telling me when I need to cool down. Reading new theories can be interesting, although the die-hard Enerjak fan in me scoffs at some notions people have, even if they are just making jokes.
n_n Well, as long as you are able ta' tell what are jokes and what are opinions Spectre
::Gives him a noogie:: >>
Ok as for Locke leaving the island to find the Brotherhood...that makes me think. Yeah ok we all know Chaos energy is needed to make the aforementioned people have a chance at becoming the figurehead known as Energak.
Who's to say its the Master Emerald that's responsible. Remember, it was the embodiment of 12 seperate Chaos Emeralds that made Energak-after he collected them. And I'm not saying that the Master Emerald does not have the power-we all know it does (ie Scourge)-I'm saying that we have -aside the Master Emerald, only a VERY limited amount of people that can utilize Chaos Energy.
I'm leaning toward Locke right now; only because he's the only person marching around the world-and has the premise of searching for the Brotherhood. Who's to say he won't find those 7 Emeralds now on Earth (Wow ok Dragonball XD)..Wait, are the 7 Emeralds on Earth? I forgot what happened to them after Turbo Tails made all them Space Emeralds into JUST 7. (9_9 Helpful but still...woooow xD)
All but the grey emerald are in the Special Zone, gaurded by Fiest.
o.o Oh. Well. Locke openz ze silencz zone n pullz emeraldz out n becumz enerjack! Awezomz!
An interesting theory, Darkest Light, but there are a few things wrong with it. First, I doubt that Finitevus would have sent him to the Zone of Silence when he could just get out anyway. If Finitevus did give Locke the coordinates of the Brotherhood-a strong indication that he may have been responsible for their disappearance-then he probably just wanted Locke out of the way while he works to bring back Enerjak.
Secondly, there's the idea that Locke could become Enerjak by just taking the other six Chaos Emeralds out of the Special Zone (that's what it's called now-Feist did a little redecorating). Even if Locke were to activate them and draw power from them, I don't think it would drive him insane. Past experience shows that absorbing Chaos Emeralds gives the user a measure of protection from their dangerous effects, unlike Dimitri's Chaos Syphon which just ripped the energy from the Emeralds and destroyed them. Besides, Locke would know better than to try and draw such massive power into himself, and he wouldn't really care about those Emeralds anyway; right now, he's focused on finding the Brotherhood and getting back to Angel Island.
Thirdly, the idea that absorbing the Chaos Emeralds' power would just happen to turn Locke into Enerjak. Unless Finitevus did something to him when they last met-and since he was planning on making Dimitri Enerjak again, it's unlikely-there's almost no chance that an insane Locke would take on the persona of Enerjak. Nobody who goes crazy ends up the same way, even if they're related, and Dimitri and Locke's relations are distant at best. Again, unless Locke is even more messed up than we think, he wouldn't turn into Enerjak after going insane.
Finally, Locke actually getting the Emeralds from the Special Zone. As has been mentioned, all of them except the one Sonic was given are now in the possession of Feist. Even without the power of the Emeralds, Feist is no pushover, and I seriously doubt that Locke is the equal of intelligent Ixis Naugus-the only being who ever managed to defeat Feist-if he got his tail kicked by Scourge the Hedgehog. Since he also has the Emeralds, and is undoubtedly capable of changing the layout of the Special Zone as he sees fit, Feist would be virtually omnipotent while inside it, while Locke is far from that. Even if Feist isn't all powerful, I doubt that Locke could defeat him. And if he couldn't defeat him, he couldn't get the Chaos Emeralds-Feist is wary of intruders into the Zone now, and he probably keeps the Emeralds hidden at all times where only he can retrieve them.
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I forgot what happened to them after Turbo Tails made all them Space Emeralds into JUST 7.
Just a little nitpick, but it was Feist who crunched the numerous Emeralds into 7 not TT.
Wait.
Why does Enerjak have to be insane?
See, the main thing we're doing WRONG here is thinking Enerjak is an "insane" villain. Dimitri was consumed by the concept of power and greed, yes, but -but- the man was a GENIUS. He made VERY VERY few mistakes as Enerjak, only getting done over by someone with MORE intelligence/a collective intelligence that could rival or surpass his (Mogul/Brotherhood)
For this reason alone, I never believed Enerjak to be crazy in that sense. Yes I called him crazy at times, but that was just cause of what he did and the EXTREMES of what he was willing to do.
He even had Knuckles understand his methodology-and for that reason, some people called Chaos Knuckles crazy for trying to change time to fix the future. So, I don't think you have to be crazy mentally to be Enerjak, not at all.
Locke can possibly find that the Brotherhood is completely dead (don't let it be Ian, I see you lurking..) and I mean-by your methodology: that can drive him insane, and all the tests he did on himself to make Knuckles Superchild could have some suepr adverse effect (except the bathing in chaos energy...can't really..replicate that..)
Note: Above scenario is not to be taken seriously..though it has a very minimal form of plausibility.
As for Scourge beating Locke, umm ok I can understand this. But if yer a father, who's fighting for teh sanctity and survival of your ideals as well as your home, and probably have been driven to your wits end at having your family disappear, from BOTH sides of the spectrum-I think you might be a bit battle weary and not be at your best to whip up on an evil Chaosupped hedgehog with super speed that looks like your son's best friend?
Not saying Locke can beat Feist, but didn't Feist give some sort of Comic guarantee to allow at least Sonic/Tails to get the Emeralds if they needed them?
But yes, my theories are usually very full of holes, but hey, its fun for me and you 
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Here's something I think everyone forgot. Lien-Da said that Dimitri was DEAD!!! So it's pretty clear, or rather, VERY likely she stabbed him in the back to become top ant eater. She and her brother did such self serving deeds before.
If this is so, and Dimitri blows the whistle on Lien-Da, then her time as leader is OVER. heck, her time in the Legion is over! It's pretty clear that Lien was waiting for Dimitri to die before, so it's not out of character that she'd betray him in the middle of the chaos.
If the Legion is to survive, and if echidna techno phobia is to be buried at last, Lien can not remain leader.
Dimitri says, "Before I die, I must chose a leader who will NOT blow up buildings full of innocent people to get our point across. Hmmm."
Julie-Su blinks, "Er, what are you all looking at me for?"
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Lien-Da said that Dimitri was DEAD!!!
she didn't say that specifically. she said "he's no longer with us" so she left it vague enough for him to be alive.
Lien would have only left it vague enough to save her own hide.
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but didn't Feist give some sort of Comic guarantee to allow at least Sonic/Tails to get the Emeralds if they needed them?
No, Feist didn't say that. He gave Sonic that first Emerald for free as a sign of graditude for riding the Zone of Naugus, or for giving him the Emeralds in the first place, I forgot which, but he said, and I think this is verbatim, or as close as you can get without whipping out the issue, "But don't expect to get anymore so easily next time." So he probably will have Sonic, Tails, etc. to do tasks like the special stages in games to get them.
Does this mean an adaptation of Blue Sphere could be in the works? =O
