Not much for me to say because I never saw the show. Im not sure If this was posted before In the past. But here ya go anyway.
lol @ 'On Mobius, fun is the f-word'.
WE MUST CENSOR FUN ON HERE IMMEDIATELY
Yes, it's very old news (some people here will still remember Sonique buying it on eBay) - but it's such old news that quite a few people here might not've been aware of it. 🙂
wow, just wow.
Very lame. Then again, I always though that Sonic had the lamest dialouge on the show. He acted like a 5 year old trying desperately to be hip.
Okay...that was awkward.
Like I said, I was not sure If this was posted before.
If it was most likely if was posted eather WAAAY before I found this site or whean I was still lurking around this site at the age of 8 or 9 years (or so years) old. (Yes, I been lurking here for a long time)
But even If this was posted before, EzBarf ate it anyway. So consider it a 'Blast in the Past'. Maybe we can use this as a resourse for the Satam page here? With permission of the website owener, of course.
Thanks sonic candy.I knew there was a SatAM Bible but never found it on the Internet.
-I found it hilarious how much of a jerk Sonic was in this early version SatAM.
-"On Mobius, fun is the F-word". 
-Tails with a Texas accent, FTW??
-Bunnie had crush on Boomer/Rotor????
-Rotor had two brothers.
-Interesting Nate Morgan was originally tall.
-SatAM Robotnik had the same origin as SEGA Eggman
-Snively original name was Quizley???
Lolz, that was fun to read.
Tails (In a cowboy hat)
Would SatAM still have its fans if this pitch were followed?
Bible Ant sounds like the perverted lovechild of Geoff and Bartleby. And Nate Morgan in the main cast? I thought creepy old wizards went out with the Smurfs.
Would SatAM still have its fans if this pitch were followed?
It would still have a few fans, but probably not the same people who obsess over it to this day...I mean, AoStH still has its fans, and that's what the series would've been had they stuck to this premise.
SHADONIC: Np this Is one of the few thing i contribute to the Mofo. lol I was looking fom some Aosth ep. (Long story) and Poof! The SatAM bible appered.
And I pretty sure some fans said bunnie had a thing for Boomer/Rotor/whatever you call him. Im not sure If that was from the (early) comic, the show or both.
Mmm, Quizley. Tosty. 
Oh and on pg.3, sonic meations the Veg O. I belive that was the name of theat foutresss in sonic spinball (correct me if im wrong here)
Yeah...the Veg O was from Spinball. And it was sorta hinted in the end of the SatAM intro that Bunnie had a thing for Rotor...they were dancing a jig together, while 'Twan was off to the side.
Meh,'Twan prolly don't belive in haveing fun. He always sounded like the stuck up type to me.
Oh, I whould also point out that is a Aosth bible. Jamie swiftrunner (Sp?) snaggged it off ebay around the summer of '00 or so. She was also a fellow member here before so some of you oldbies prolly remember her.
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I mean, AoStH still has its fans, and that's what the series would've been
No. Even in its darkest hour, AoStH never gave us 4-year-old Tails in a cowboy hat.
AND WHO WAS PAID TO COME UP WITH THAT ANYWAY? 
This was just so nastalgia; and creepy, in a sort of way.
Archie comics obviously read this before they started working on it. (I wonder how they sat through that)
Don't thing anybody would want to read the whole thing. I didn't, but it was just so nastalgia. It's the only word to describe it.
I still wonder to this very day why DiC did two different Sonic series at the same time. It's just a question that can't really have an answer...
...that is unless someone knows something that we don't.
I still wonder to this very day why DiC did two different Sonic series at the same time. It's just a question that can't really have an answer...
...that is unless someone knows something that we don't.
Short answer: More money. Sonic was at THE height of his popularity...they probably figured it would be more profitable to air two shows.
I think that when they introduced Tails wearing his cowboy hat, that they were just trying to present him as a young kid playing around...I don't think they would've had him looking that way for the entire series. Still, there's no excuse for making the poor fella four years old.
Around Sonic 2, Tails was officially 4 according to many gaming magazines, which means it was probably SoA.
Yup, they had ads in print about how Sonic's only help had the mind of a four-year-old.
I never saw the ads, but the manuals definitely described Tails as four years old. AoStH stuck to that, too.
But in the final SatAM version...he aged up to almost ten. Good descision.
Man...I really wish they kept up the Satam series. Instead we lost such a good show to a big crap stain like the power rangers. 
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I liked the Power Rangers better than SatAM.
Especially when Green Ranger showed up.
Later seasons... not so much. But by then the damage was already done.
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But in the final SatAM version...he aged up to almost ten. Good descision.
He was ten in SatAM, for at least some portion of it. Sally gives his age as ten in Drood Henge, towards the end of season two.
For all SatAM gave him about as much to do as you would a four year old anyway *grumblegrumble*, it would've compromised that slightly grittier feel a lot more seriously to have a four year old in a prominent position, like AoStH's prodigy.
Then again, it may just've been an age change for plot reasons - the scriptwriters may've had to explain why a four year old was in the group when Robotnik'd been in power for ten years, and/or account for the whereabouts of the parents.
They still treat him as if he was four though.
Like I said: for all they gave him as much to do as you would a four year old anyway. 🙁
I'll never understand why DiC felt the need to populate the series with a pile of Mary-Sues and leave the one other canon "good guy" in the entire franchise at the time on the sidelines.
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I liked the Power Rangers better than SatAM.
Of course - Dragonzord for the WIN!
I think I understand the approach to Tails in Sonic Sat a.m. What I think they were doing was making Tails out of be more of a normal kid and just learning how to be an Freedom Fighter, which seems more of a realistic approach. Even though they are all basically child soldiers ,it does make since that the Freedom Fighters would make sure Tails is trained and hold out on sending him into the field as long as possible. It is also understandable that the FF's would be so protective of Tails, since he was the youngest. Plus, Tails was going to get more time if the third season happened.
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I think I understand the approach to Tails in Sonic Sat a.m. What I think they were doing was making Tails out of be more of a normal kid and just learning how to be an Freedom Fighter, which seems more of a realistic approach. People who would send a child into war are either truly evil or desparate, so it does make since that the Freedom Fighters would make sure Tails is trained and hold out on sending him into the field as long as possible. It is also understandable that the FF's would be so protective of Tails, since he was the youngest. Plus, Tails was going to get more time if the third season happened
Yeah, DC, but what about all the times Sonic puts Tails in danger in AoStH. 
I'm all with ya Sam. That was how they treated Tails in the series. I've never actually seen him do anything in that show.
Q:How many times have you seen Tails fly, run at sonic speed, or even go on a mission in Sat AM? Besides Drood Henge of course.
DC, I always found that a massive plot hole in SatAM.
We know that Rosie took the kids to Knothole originally and that she was captured by Swatbots before Tails could really remember her properly, which makes it a good few years ago.
Where were any other adults, since it seemed from Blast to the Past that warnings of the coup were virtually non-existent.
Sonic describes himself in Drood Henge as "running solo missions" at ten, but without permission, which makes you wonder how long the FFs - who are, after all, still teenagers themselves - have been doing their own dirty work, and who let them (since it implies that they were maybe still going out with other FFs).
You talk about child soldiers, but that's what they all already were.
In Drood Henge, Sally's main objection didn't seem to be his age or that he couldn't handle it, so much as he needed someone more responsible to watch his back, just in case.
Whilst we saw him getting read bedtime stories and generally treated as though he was half the age he was actually meant to be, it wasn't until Drood Henge (albeit, with a lesser nod in Ghost Busted) that we saw that he was still being trained off screen into something very useful, and had natural talent anyway.
There was no need for that to've happened to one of Sega's primary characters off-screen. Again, I can't help but see the entire series as Mary-Sueism of the highest order when I see things like that.
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I still wonder to this very day why DiC did two different Sonic series at the same time.
Supposedly because AoStH was created first, but ABC wouldn't air it on Saturday mornings. Therefore, DiC needed something else. As a result, AoStH was syndicated and SatAM was created to air on ABC.
Samanfur, I don't think I'll ever be able to look at SatAm ever again without thinking about the FF's as child soldiers. It makes FAR TOO MUCH sense. 
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What I think they were doing was making Tails out of be more of a normal kid and just learning how to be an Freedom Fighter, which seems more of a realistic approach.
It is a more realistic approach, but how many people wanted to see it compared to how many who wanted to see Tails kicking butt? Tails getting a bigger role in Season 3 is irrelevant since it never got made.
People who would send a child into war are either truly evil or desparate, so it does make since that the Freedom Fighters would make sure Tails is trained and hold out on sending him into the field as long as possible. It is also understandable that the FF's would be so protective of Tails, since he was the youngest. Plus, Tails was going to get more time if the third season happened.
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Yeah, DC, but what about all the times Sonic puts Tails in danger in AoStH.
Well AoStH was more comedy than action so the violence was different from SatAM.
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Q:How many times have you seen Tails fly, run at sonic speed, or even go on a mission in Sat AM? Besides Drood Henge of course
Tails doesn't run at sonic speed because he doesn't have sonic speed. He flies remember. As for going on missions there was "Head or Tails", where Sonic and Tails go to Robotropolis in search of metal cotter pins and "Sonic Past Cool", where Tails and FF help a herd of dinosaurs like creatures to a valley and Tails becomes friend with one of them.
True AoStH and Sonic Sat a.m. different types of cartoons. I understand how it would be disappointing, for those who are fans of the games, that Tails didn't get enough action in Sonic Sat a.m. I actually enjoyed the foster parent/child type of interaction between some of the FF's and Tails(especially with Sally), I found it touching.
