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(@johnnymac86)
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It's been years since the last Zone Wars story. Excluding the "Sonic The Hedgehog" issues, but back in the "Sonic Super Specials." Even put in a new story on that every now and then.

We've seen many alternate versions of sonic, why not center the spotlight on one of them every month or other month in a back-up story?

Take STH issues #103-#104. That story was very good. I know they plan out what storylines will be in the issues, maybe they will fit that in sometime down the road, maybe not. Just a suggestion.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Let them not, and us say they did. I never did like any of those "alternate zones" stories. Most of them, and by most, I mean all, were laame. >_>

 
(@jerboa)
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I hated the whole "zone" idea, too. I was in ultimate jubilation in issue #149 when Master Mogul destroyed all of the zones except for Prime and Zonic's. I thought it would finally be simple, but nooooooo. They brought them all back the very next issue. With the crappy art of Titan Tails. God, #150 was so lame.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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The very mention of Titan Tails still hurts my eyes to this very day.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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I need to draw Titan Tails one day. It'll make the living die and the dead die more.

 
(@alex-the-teknian)
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Yeah I dont want to see any alternate zones anymore I alwais disliked that idea since the begining plus that Zone cop Zonic. In the begining when the comic was childish Aosth like it was reasonable since it was comedy, but when the comic took on a more serious storyline that looked very lame to still have the alternate Zones. the only two alternate Zone that I would agree and like is the one were Sonic and friends are bad and Robotnik is the good guy, and the Zone were Robo Robotnik came (wich is Eggman now). But as the rest of the Zones and Zonic, I wish to not have to see them anymore in future issues.

 
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I need to draw Live Nude Titan Tails one day.


 
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(@roach2003)
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i liked the idea at first but they took it too far with going to random, and usually very stupid, zones for purposes that I still don't understand. I could see it being possible to work that concept into the storyline and make it work, but not the way they used to do it

 
(@lonewolf23)
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If they bring back the Zone Wars, they should keep them simpler and more of a "What If" nature rather then just themed zones.. For exemple, instead of a "Samurai Sonic" zone, why not a "Robotnik Prime never got blown up" Zone? Or a "Sonic never got de-roboticized, but Mecha-Sonic is still fighting with the Freedom Fighters" Zone?

 
(@alex-the-teknian)
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Now like LoneWolf23 said, that would make greater and cooler stories, nice ideas LoneWolf23

 
(@shadowknight2244_1722585925)
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yes, they should make a zone wars where sonic goes to blaze and silvers dimenson & helps them defeat iblis (since Apparently in the comics shes from antoher dimension Instead of the future)

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Shadowknight, the only Blaze title that's ever been adapted is Sonic Rush - and in that game, she was described as being from another dimension, rather than the future.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I really don't see a point to any more Zone Wars stories. Any more now would just be cliche, and they would likely get dumber and dumber as Archie scraped the bottom of the barrel for ideas. The closest we've come to Zone Wars in a while was all the versions of Tails taking on Mammoth Mogul. My bone to pick with that is the fact that now we're not going to be seeing any Knuckles army; it would just be stupid to do so.

EDIT: Besides, the Zone Wars are kind of impossible without Zonic, and he hasn't been seen since the battle between Master Mogul and Titan Tails. In all likelihood, he's trying to clean up the mess left behind by the destruction of so many alternate dimensions. Of course, as a result of this, he can neither aid the Freedom Fighters on Mobius Prime or pull them in for another Zone Wars story.

 
(@gamer-x)
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Maybe they could cross over to other Sonic continuities and What if stories than zones with some random theme. I rather comic Sonic meets game Sonic than another lawyer themed zone.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Well, I admit that it would be interesting to see different versions of characters who are only slightly different from their comic counterparts. Game Knuckles meets comic Knuckles? Wonder how that's going to work out, especially if Game Boy (no pun intended) gets an eyeful of Julie-Su!

 
(@gamer-x)
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Um, was that sarcasm?

 
(@Anonymous)
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I don't know what you mean, but no sarcasm was intended. Archie meets Sega would be an interesting series, but I don't really see it happening. Plus, you have to know that if one version of Knuckles likes Julie-Su, most of the others are bound to!

 
(@toby-barrett)
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What makes you say that? Game Knuckles would most likely call her a fake, as he's supposed to be the last of the echidna, then smash through Echidnaopolis ala the Incredible Hulk.

 
(@lonewolf23)
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If anything, Game Knuckles would get jealous of Archie Knuckles...

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Nah, I think my idea is more in character.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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before they make any. i mean ANY. zone wars stories, i need closure on the whole "robotnik shouldn't be there thing" i don't care if it's good writing or not anymore. that is a gaping plothole that IMO is a little too big to avoid. i mean seriously, Zonic has been around since Robo-Robotnik has been here.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Eggman is too powerful for Zonic, same as Scourge.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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oh whatever. that's crap, not with a full force of zone cops they're not. and you're not actually gonna tell me that zonic couldn't have popped in and grabbed Robotnik when he was completely defensless this issue.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, don't you think you're taking this just a wee bit too seriously? XD

Heck, I'm willing to just go with the concept of "Don't ask, don't tell". All that zone jumping stuff would just be confusing for new readers anyway.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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seriously? not at all.

the fact that it's still a gaping plothole is still there, regardless of new readers or not. besides, it's not like ian has been taking time to recap anyway. what with appearances of faust all's new readers have was *see sonic #whatever*

 
(@Anonymous)
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While the idea of a force of Zone Cops is plausible, let's not forget a point I brought up. The Cosmic Interstate got hosed by Master Mogul, and while Zonic and any colleagues of his would probably like to intervene on Mobius Prime, they're probably too busy cleaning up the mess left by the destruction of dozens of alternate dimensions. Besides, they probably feel that its best to take a nonaggresive stance in dealing with criminals; did anyone ever see Zonic fighting? If they have any time to worry about Mobius Prime, the Zone Cops probably think that the Freedom Fighters, Chaotix, and whoever else is working for the cause of good can handle things without them-at least for a while.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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no, this plothole has been around since #75. sure i want it resolved but at the same time ian said that there was a reason why zonic couldn't take him back at the time. but yeah they are probably busy as you pointed out.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I'm glad you agree. I mean, really, it's quite logical: comparing one or two criminals away from their native Zones to the mess that countless Zones being destroyed left, it's really not surprising that Zonic hasn't shown up on Mobius Prime since recruiting Tails to defeat Master Mogul.

 
(@gamer-x)
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Yeah, we probably not going to see Zonic for awhile. Which reminds me, isn't Sonic supposed to be the hero of all zones or someting? Wasn't he supposed to save all the zones, not Tails? I think Zonic explained it in a Super Special.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I think that Sonic's heroism in saving all Zones may be yet to come, probably in finally defeating Robotnik. After all, since the current Robotnik left his own home dimension, who's to say he wouldn't move on if he managed to get rid of Sonic and the Freedom Fighters?

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Sonic is Sonic Prime - a major hero across the dimensions.

Tails is The Chosen One, whose destiny is to bring balance.

They're two different things.

 
(@tornadot)
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I would like to see Zonic reappear but yea he won't be able to do much since Scourge and Eggman are out of his league. Kind of sucks being a time cop...you would think he'd be a bit more powerful. Destroying all those worlds...well...kind of like Infinite Crisis...kind of good but I kind of liked it when they jumped to the various dimensions.

 
(@hypershadow77)
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Destroying all those worlds...well...kind of like Infinite Crisis...


what about the 52? hahaha lame reference on my part.

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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Nah, Zonic never said that Sonic was going to save all the dimensions. He just called Sonic a hero of time/space. Personally, I've always considered Tails to need the larger destiny regardless of what Sonic does due to his Chosen One status. Knuckles' destiny is related to solving the echidnas issues on Mobius (Dark Legion, Guardian-side, & Albion I'd wager) and anything else would just be a bonus due to being a relative "equal" to Sonic.

 
(@Anonymous)
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True, Zonic never did name Sonic as the guy destined to save all dimensions; he said Sonic was the best version of himself from all the dimensions. Tails' role as the Chosen One would seem to elevate him above Sonic in terms of saving the multiverse, and becoming Titan Tails was apparently only part of him fulfilling that destiny.

As for Knuckles, why did you put "equal" in parantheses for him? Knuckles is Sonic's equal, and at times has demonstrated that he is superior. Did Sonic achieve a state of being second only to Master Mogul and Titan Tails? No.

 
(@gamer-x)
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I always found that wierd about the comic. Sonic, who is supposed to be the main hero of the comic and mobius,who has saved the kingdom and millions of lives numerous times, isn't the chosen one. Rather Tails, his immature sidekick, is really the Keanu Reeves of everybody.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Well, I think that was back in the days before Archie decided that Sonic had to do EVERYTHING, so they thought it'd be cool to make Tails the big destined hero. Of course, now that A.D.A.M.'s kicked the bucket, he seems to have been lowered in rank to "bitter sidekick who decides to try and kick hero's butt."

 
(@gamer-x)
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Well Sonic's recent actions weren't exactly beneficial to their friendship.

-Dating Fiona, Tails's crush
-Opposing Tail's father in Civil War
-Still treating him like a little kid

Now if your supposed best friend and mentor: talks down to you, steals your crush, and is against your father's side, you would be a little bitter too.

 
(@Anonymous)
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True, very true. But still, it's rather a sad transition for a character that so many people like, and it might have been avoided if only Sonic weren't such an idiot.

 
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As for Knuckles, why did you put "equal" in parantheses for him? Knuckles is Sonic's equal, and at times has demonstrated that he is superior. Did Sonic achieve a state of being second only to Master Mogul and Titan Tails? No.


I put equal in parentheses because in comparison, Knuckles' destiny if being interpreted correctly doesn't really seem to be equal to Sonic's. I'd place it below. Also, I don't use power as a measure for a couple of reasons. One, power demonstration is a product of necessity of the story, not necessarily what they can/can't do. I do agree that Sonic/Knuckles probably should be able to relatively attain the same amount of power but in different ways as Sonic should always have a speed advantage and Knuckles a strength advantage. Two, power can be overcome or else there's no reason the heroes should still be alive due to the number of times as the underdogs they've won. Titan Tails and very early usages of Super Sonic are the few times that the heroes actually had the edge in power and won outright. Usually the villain has the decided edge in power (Enerjak, Master Mogul, Robotnik, Robo-Robotnik, etc.) and they find a way to win working together and outsmarting the "over-confident" villain.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I'll admit, True Red, once again you have demonstrated a keen perception of the situation. However, while I admit that I was perhaps wrong in thinking that Knuckles is superior to Sonic, nothing says Sonic is superior to him. The only thing we've gotten on the "divine status" deal with Team Sonic is that Tails is destined to be a greater hero than both Sonic and Knuckles. From that, we could gather that Sonic is supposed to be a greater hero than Knuckles, Knuckles is supposed to be a greater hero than Sonic, or that they're simply equal.

Sonic's destiny, for that matter, has been a bit more vague than Knuckles' or Tails'. Sure, we all know that he's one of Mobius' top heroes, but we really don't know what he has to do to fulfill the prophecy of the Ancient Walkers. Tails appears to have done his job, both by becoming Titan Tails to defeat Master Mogul and by sending the Chaos Emeralds to the Zone of Silence, and Knuckles has come back from the dead and is supposed to deliver Mobius from its suffering. In Sonic's case, though, we don't really have specifics on what he's supposed to do.

In any event, this discussion is like quite a few that take place here: speculation. Until the series ends-hopefully within the next few years or so, but who knows how long it could go on-or until the whole prophecy deal is reconciled, we have no way of knowing whether Sonic has a greater destiny than Knuckles, vice versa, or not at all.

 
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