I want an expert's opinion.
Did anybody notice what both girls have in common? : They gained an interest in Sonic because he apparently did something heroic in front of them.
They also think about him in a similar way (Both girls imagine getting married to him.)
I can see the similarites, but what are the differences? If there's no differences at all, then all this could be a bad case of Mary-Suism. Simply put: How is Amy's point-of-view about Sonic(Example: Sonic Adventure; pay attention to her introduction) different from Mina's point-of-view? What does each girl see in him that the other girl sees differently?
I'd have to say the big difference is you are posting this topic in the wrong forum there sir.
I'd also say this almost dangerously comes close to breaking the 'Relationship - no talkie' rule too...so a double dose of BZZZZZZT, by looks of it. 😛
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I'd have to say the big difference is you are posting this topic in the wrong forum there sir.
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Wrong.
The MF-Central board is PERFECT. I would say that you're the one who is posting in the wrong thread.
Let me make an official response by making a very clear point about Amy:
Amy can be a selfish jerk most of the time. She should learn to be respectful and thoughtful about Sonic's feelings. You hate her for being disrespectful toward Sonic. You just can't blame Sonic for always trying to get away from Amy. Sometimes you think he might like her too, but you bet Sonic would really like Amy if she thought more about how he feels. Amy obviously doesn't know the meaning of true love and romance. You think she does truly love Sonic, but if she really did, she wouldn't force Sonic to do certain things or chase him around.
Now that you've read that, think about something: Could you seriously take all the "Amy"s in this paragraph, change them to "Mina", and it's still the same characterization?
He means this really is subject matter for the comic forums, which I would personally agree with since that's where the majority of Archie discussion takes place. And again - No relationship discussions are meant to be allowed anyway, as I'm fairly sure I've mentioned in my other post...
But that's for the Mods to decide and apply - This is pretty close to the bone on both points though!
The difference is that now there is NO Sonic/Mina in the comics. That's been settled.
Oh, I see. By not posting in Knothole you circumvent the no-relationship rule.
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Where the hell are you people coming from, anyway? If, in fact, you're all individuals and not just one person with multiple accounts.
Oh, I see. By not posting in Knothole you circumvent the no-relationship rule.
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Where the hell are you people coming from, anyway? If, in fact, you're all individuals and not just one person with multiple accounts.
The power of goggle suggests that they are both from "AvatarSpirit.Net" forums.
Also ... @ Harry making 10 edits to the op 
Psxphile wrote:
Oh, I see. By not posting in Knothole you circumvent the no-relationship rule.
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What a weak accusation.
Spiner Storm wrote:
The difference is that now there is NO Sonic/Mina in the comics. That's been settled.
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The opening poster is clearly referring to the points-of-view of the girls BEFORE anything was settled. He's referring to the time when both girls had a particular thing in common. Use some common sense.
Oh, I see. By not posting in Knothole you circumvent the no-relationship rule.
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Where the hell are you people coming from, anyway? If, in fact, you're all individuals and not just one person with multiple accounts.
The power of goggle suggests that they are both from "AvatarSpirit.Net" forums.
Also ... @ Harry making 10 edits to the op
Hey, the guy's a perfectionist. Kinda like me.
Hey, the guy's a perfectionist. Kinda like me.
Which proves further that Perfection is impossible! 
Hey, the guy's a perfectionist. Kinda like me.
Which proves further that Perfection is impossible!
Quiet you! 
Oh, I see. By not posting in Knothole you circumvent the no-relationship rule.
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Where the hell are you people coming from, anyway? If, in fact, you're all individuals and not just one person with multiple accounts.
I'm not sure about this but could someone find that out using IP tracking? Also, I think MF Central was supposed to be the board for comparisons between continuities, and the thread starter made a reference to Amy in the games...
Anyway, the whole relationship discussion thing is a bit of a bandwagon I jumped a while ago, like with System Wars on GS, but partly because I saw arguments in it that caught my attention... like the idea that Sally/Amy should be with Sonic instead of Mina because Sally/Amy was there first; Sonic without a girlfriend was there before Sally/Amy, so wouldn't that logic really point to the idea of Sonic without a girlfriend, then? And I remember when a few years ago someone brought up the idea of Sally with Mina instead of either of them with Sonic and people were like "but this is a comic for children"; seems odd to me that portrayals of lesbian relationships would be thought of as somehow being worse for children than portrayals of grenade-throwing or nuke-launching, huh? And I notice how in some of these discussions people talk about fictional characters as if they're real...
I stopped reading the comics around 130-something so I don't know where the story has gone since then, but I just wanted to put those points out there...
Is the op's name harry or laura? Alternate accounts that talk each other irritate me.
~Tobe
I'm not sure about this but could someone find that out using IP tracking?
For what it's worth Admins are currently the only people who are given the IP addresses of users.
OH AND AS I TYPE THAT AN ADMIN POPS OUT OF THE BUSHES IN FRONT OF ME
DON'T I LOOK STUPID NOW
/me runs off crying
With regard to the topic at hand: I do not think the SonAmy and SonMina relationships are really all that similar. The fact that in either example the girl falls in love because the guy did something heroic is a very very common thing and not a unique connection between those two relationships. Sure, they are similarities, but it doesn't make them the same. Mina is far less single-minded than Amy.
With regard to whether this is an attempt to dodge the Knothole no-relationship rule, in my expert's opinion I'd say that you could make a case for the notion that since this thread involves the SonMina reltionship in Archie and the SonAmy relationship in the games then it belongs in neither Knothole or South Island, much like the other "general" or "multi-universe" Sonic topics that show up here. However, it's a fairly weak case. It seems to me that this really is a cheap attempt to circumvent that rule. But I'm not a mod anymore, just an expert.
I find it funny that we haven't seen Harry or Laura since.
It's only been a few hours. 0_o
Your major error in assumption is that you are ignoring that Amy did not meet Sonic in Sonic Adventure, it was in Sonic CD.
In Sonic CD, Amy used her tarot cards to find her true love and was lead to the Little Planet where she met Sonic, this is how they fell in love. Her entire deal throughout the series, and the reason why she is so persistant is because she truly believes that they are destined for one another and no amount of running will change that. Hence why in Palmtree Panic she is already desperately in love with him, despite not being captured or saved by him until later on in the game.
Mina is a Mary Sue. She is an original character insert who can miraculously run as fast as Sonic, is popular among all the established characters, creates love triangle drama and loves Sonic for even flimsier reasons.
I am not an Archie expert, however I do know that Mina is with Ash (or was last time I checked) and is no longer a viable contestant for Sonic's affections while that relationship stands.
Its true. And it turns out Mammoth Mogul gave her the power to run fast. She still likes Sonic but not as boyfriend material. Her status with Ash is pretty much permanent.
The reason she liked Sonic was because he helped pull her out of her low self-esteem problems. Putting her on stage to sing an all that. I used to consider her a Mary-Sue but not anymore. I believe she's been saved from the sue heap. But she's still rather bland so I'm glad she's out of the big picture.
I'd have to say the big difference is you are posting this topic in the wrong forum there sir.
as this thread concerns more than one sonic universe, it belongs in mfc
Anyway, the whole relationship discussion thing is a bit of a bandwagon I jumped a while ago, like with System Wars on GS, but partly because I saw arguments in it that caught my attention... like the idea that Sally/Amy should be with Sonic instead of Mina because Sally/Amy was there first; Sonic without a girlfriend was there
before Sally/Amy, so wouldn't that logic really point to the idea of Sonic without a girlfriend, then?
I heard before they made him single they paired him up with a blonde woman named Madonna modeled after The Singer.
...That idea was cut out before the Game was released, however.
Thank goodness.
If that idea started and continued into today...
The idea of Sonic with a 50-something year old is kind of... discomforting.
Anyway, the whole relationship discussion thing is a bit of a bandwagon I jumped a while ago, like with System Wars on GS, but partly because I saw arguments in it that caught my attention... like the idea that Sally/Amy should be with Sonic instead of Mina because Sally/Amy was there first; Sonic without a girlfriend was there
before Sally/Amy, so wouldn't that logic really point to the idea of Sonic without a girlfriend, then?I heard before they made him single they paired him up with a blonde woman named Madonna modeled after The Singer.
...That idea was cut out before the Game was released, however.
Thank goodness.
If that idea started and continued into today...
The idea of Sonic with a 50-something year old is kind of... discomforting.
Now I'm curious, where do you recall hearing of this? I thought Sonic was originally not supposed to be "paired up" like that...
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B Vulpix wrote:
Its true. And it turns out Mammoth Mogul gave her the power to run fast. She still likes Sonic but not as boyfriend material. Her status with Ash is pretty much permanent.
The reason she liked Sonic was because he helped pull her out of her low self-esteem problems. Putting her on stage to sing an all that. I used to consider her a Mary-Sue but not anymore. I believe she's been saved from the sue heap. But she's still rather bland so I'm glad she's out of the big picture.
Damnit people, Mina is NOT a Mary-Sue!
... She's more of a Lynn Minmay.
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She makes me think of Bulma...or that Launch character from DragonBall
Ok fair enough, the idea was there... anyway, my point was more so about the "who was there first" reasoning, and how if you apply it consistently, it would point more so to either Sonic being without a girlfriend or with Madonna...
Matt, you're going across canons on a definitive match with Sonic.
Amy is not a contender for Sonic's affections in the Archie comic. Comparing her with Sally is like trying to work out if the red ranger and the yellow ranger are a true pairing without stating which Power Ranger spin-off you're referring to.
There's no "Who came first" mentality, as neither person is on the same race track. Both are fighting for the affections of a different Sonic The Hedgehog. One the SegaSonic one, and the other the Archie one.
Any further relationship discussion would break Mobius Forum rules.
Suffice to let it rest at Sonic has no girlfriend. This is a fact. Any speculation on who he will end up with is against MoFo discussion rules.
Well, my expert opinion is that this DOES belong in Knothole mainly because it involves Archie comic characters, and story lines, and comparisons between both the game and comic Amy versions.
My other expert opinion is that this wouldn't really constitute as a "relationship" talk as it's not really an, "OMG X should TOTALLY be with X, amirite!?" topic. It's, sadly, a surprisingly well put argument, (though, personally, there's no difference IMO). So, it shouldn't get canned when I move it to Knothole. But that's just me, as Craigipoo has spoken.
For my final expert observation, it's all very stupid anyway.
Also, I'm still moving it.
*MOVED FOR JUSTICE*
Well, my expert opinion is that this DOES belong in Knothole mainly because it involves Archie comic characters, and story lines, and comparisons between both the game and comic Amy versions.
My other expert opinion is that this wouldn't really constitute as a "relationship" talk as it's not really an, "OMG X should TOTALLY be with X, amirite!?" topic. It's, sadly, a surprisingly well put argument, (though, personally, there's no difference IMO). So, it shouldn't get canned when I move it to Knothole. But that's just me, as Craigipoo has spoken.
For my final expert observation, it's all very stupid anyway.
Also, I'm still moving it.
*MOVED FOR JUSTICE*
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Matt, you're going across canons on a definitive match with Sonic.
Amy is not a contender for Sonic's affections in the Archie comic. Comparing her with Sally is like trying to work out if the red ranger and the yellow ranger are a true pairing without stating which Power Ranger spin-off you're referring to.
There's no "Who came first" mentality, as neither person is on the same race track. Both are fighting for the affections of a different Sonic The Hedgehog. One the SegaSonic one, and the other the Archie one.
Any further relationship discussion would break Mobius Forum rules.
Suffice to let it rest at Sonic has no girlfriend. This is a fact. Any speculation on who he will end up with is against MoFo discussion rules.
Actually Craig, I didn't even know that Sonic didn't have a girlfriend; as I said earlier I hadn't been following the ArchieSonic story for a while... but yeah since it's been moved to Knothole I guess I'll have to stop now...
The opening poster is clearly referring to the points-of-view of the girls BEFORE anything was settled.
Hi, and welcome to the MoFo. We have a lack of common sense around here.
My other expert opinion is that this wouldn't really constitute as a "relationship" talk as it's not really an, "OMG X should TOTALLY be with X, amirite!?" topic. It's, sadly, a surprisingly well put argument, (though, personally, there's no difference IMO). So, it shouldn't get canned when I move it to Knothole. But that's just me, as Craigipoo has spoken.
Obviously it's not my call, but that's not how we've enforced the relationship rule in the past. And consider myself an expert on this forum. Even Hiro's kilosong acknowledges it!
Even intelligent discussion of romantic relationships would always be prohibited, because even the most intelligent conversation on relationships always seems to devolve into hateful comments and stupidit.
Also, I think that being lenient on this thread would set a precedent that would encourage rules lawyering. And man, I hates me some rules lawyering.
My other expert opinion is that this wouldn't really constitute as a "relationship" talk as it's not really an, "OMG X should TOTALLY be with X, amirite!?" topic. It's, sadly, a surprisingly well put argument, (though, personally, there's no difference IMO). So, it shouldn't get canned when I move it to Knothole. But that's just me, as Craigipoo has spoken.
Obviously it's not my call, but that's not how we've enforced the relationship rule in the past. And consider myself an expert on this forum. Even Hiro's kilosong acknowledges it!
Even intelligent discussion of romantic relationships would always be prohibited, because even the most intelligent conversation on relationships always seems to devolve into hateful comments and stupidit.
Also, I think that being lenient on this thread would set a precedent that would encourage rules lawyering. And man, I hates me some rules lawyering.
That's why I said "opinion". Craig ruled on it already, anyway. ;P I would've done the same, really. Personally, I'd rather wait for the idiots to start spouting the hateful comments and stupidity and pick them off, one by one. Makes for a happier, cleaner MoFo. ^^
BUT, not my forum. Now let's all pipe up before I completely close this. Which I should, honestly.
Jin, I didn't rule on it, I was covering myself. I would have said more in my reply, however I did not want to tempt the relationship rule, as I respect it and think it is a good thing.
Remember, I'm not a mod, so even if I had made a ruling, you're within your rights to say "Shut your trap, ginger you ain't the law" and I would blush and say "...ok, sir!"
Shut your trap, ginger you ain't the law
Your admin badge is just for show, old man! You're an old hack! You're yesterday's news! You're just a distant smudge on the MoFo history books and your feet smell bad! >=[
Yo momma.
Agreed @ Jinsoku... I don't think the blame for how people act should be with the subject itself (at least not this subject anyway) as with the people who act that way...
EDIT: And when I said I was going to "stop" I meant with respect to said subject...
Jin, I didn't rule on it, I was covering myself. I would have said more in my reply, however I did not want to tempt the relationship rule, as I respect it and think it is a good thing.
Remember, I'm not a mod, so even if I had made a ruling, you're within your rights to say "Shut your trap, ginger you ain't the law" and I would blush and say "...ok, sir!"
Psh. Mod or not, you still hold some ground to this ol' latin man. 
As for Dubs? Yo face.
How to bring a smile to your face when you're down?
Skip McDonald's and jump right in to the MoFo. Random post as hillarious.
Craig, Jin and Dubs made me smile today ^___^
I was tempted to reply but everyone pretty much summed up everything and for the sake of our golden rule I shall say no more. Where's the original poster and his defendant?
The op is busy thinking of a new name for his/her's next account.
Craig, Jin and Dubs made me smile today ^___^
Thank you, thank you. We're here all week.
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Unfortunately.
