Personally I'm not too offended by other people using it (unless if the insult was against me), but I very rarely use it myself. I think what it comes down to is its a lazy way of talking; people use it blindly to just add emphasis, to enforce a point instead of constructing a better argument.
I hate censoring it though, especially on TV where they put a "bleep" instead of the word, its pointless. How is knowing that someone said something rude any less rude than actually hearing it? Fortunatly here in the UK, in my experience they tend to censor a lot less on television, allowing almost all bad language after 9:00pm, and its usually only imported American stuff that is censored.
Also theres a fine line. I was always tought that the word "crap" is a mild swear word, and although its thought of as one less and less, a lot of people where I live still see it as that. So I was quite suprised hearing it used on some American children's TV shows. Then there are words like "damn", which often aren't even seen as offensive at all over here, but I find in America some people do take offense to it.
Exactly! Cursing, who DOES give a @#%$?!
Just tightass losers who cant take it or cuz their mamas say so lol..
And another thing my fello naive members..:D
there is a way to bypass censors other than using symbols to substitute for them. you HAVE to use symbols in the Ezchat but not out here. Its a little trick I learned but Im not gona share my secret so too bad:p
(notice I just cursed up top^)
and again..
@#%$ BOTS!!:cuckoo
MODS CAN BE @#%$ PRICKS!!:evil
how do u guys like it? lol
Wow. You're a fudgepop.
Ooh, wow, look at me! I can use codes to bypass censors!!!111
Newsflash. censor dodging is against the rules.
You're cruising for a ban, man. I suggest you read the rules again, I think you skipped...Uh...everything the last time you told me you 'read' them.
and your cool. notice im only joking..
and your cool. notice im only joking..
Oh, snappy comeback. I think I might cry.
Unless, of course, you were saying that you were kidding about bypassing the censor. Which is still breaking the rules. Quit trying to cover your ass and get the hell off of my computer screen.
I think this is appropriate here.
On topic, cusing is only words. You can cuss at me all day and I'm not going to run off crying. It's rude, and that's why everyone is against cuss words, but to believe ay word that's insulting is bad would mean Jerk, Idiot, Dumb, etc are cuss words. And none of them are, and most of those words have acceptable meanings as well. What makes a cuss word a cuss word in the frst place?
EDIT: The STFU truck was directed at the idiot a few replies above, not Wesu.
Aren't you a little cutie.
Since you failed to head your peers advice on censor dodging. You got yerself a lovely warning. No bypassing the censors, lest the might of the admins... smiteth yee. o.o
~Rico
Kiss my ass, loser. you got nothin. I can see how gay you really are with that sig of yours. Get the hell outta MY sight
talkin to Wesu^
yea Rico I heard you. Lay off my dick, cutie lol
Don't care. Using "gay" as an insult is also against the rules. It does tend to offend people, ask my boyfriend. I don't wanna have to hit you with 2 warning in one day so cool it.
~Rico
Yeah uh you're dead. ^_^
Quick Rico, you'd better do as he says or things might turn nasty.
Let's do the DJ Hedgehog dance!
Kiss my ass, loser. you got nothin. I can see how gay you really are with that sig of yours. Get the hell outta MY sight
I am greatly offended, good sir. How DARE you demand that I kiss your ripe young buttocks, and how dare you insult me with a homosexual slur via my signature. I demand an apology.
Ok juss stop and lets juss forget this. Im sorry for whatever I did. but hey rico do we actually have gay ppl here or are u juss messin?
Of course not. Gays don't exist. Especially me, Wesu, HSW and Rico.
To quote the great Groucho Marx, "I have half a mind to join a club and beat you over the head with it."
Don't matter. Don't do it. KTHXZ
~Rico
dont act like Im stupid. so you three ARE gay then, huh? thats juss great
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4
Actually I had a girlfriend in highschool. I don't know what I am. Well besides being a human being. Of course that doesn't matter. Follow the rules.
~Rico
Acrio, he added it up right! He didn't include Wes. XD
Yikes! What can I add to this, what can I add. Hmm...Yikes! *obliterated*
Acrio, he added it up right! He didn't include Wes. XD
i am confused wtf do u mean
Acrio mentioned four people, then the guy said three. o.o
Back to topic! Wait, cursing is the topic. Who thinks are right for JRapidfire to use tags to bypass the boards filter?
i am confused wtf do u mean
Especially me, Wesu, HSW and Rico.
so you three ARE gay then, huh?
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4
o.o
But he mentioned Rico last.
How does his mathematical idioticy make me nonexistant??!?/1/1/!?/1
besides he called me gay first >:(
>_> k.
*tries dragging it back on topic, too.* Basically, I have nothing against swearing at all. Gay being used wrong pisses me off tho. Yay!
Off the forum, nah, I don't care. I match my profanity level to the people I'm talking to.
~Rico
Swearing offends me nill, though I do find it annoying when people use the language infront of others that dislike it as that can just stir up more rucus than anyone wants to stick around for.
So basically~
Hubert Cumberdale: @#%$
Acrio: ^_^
and then
Hubert Cumberdale: @#%$
Acrio: ^_^
Margery Stewart Baxter: >=(
Hubert Cumberdale: @#%$ @#%$ @#%$
Margery Stewart Baxter: OMG ;______; I want to know how dare you! >=(
Acrio: x_X
I personally just don't swear. It's nothing I do on purpose, it just doesn't come out of my mouth... o.o
But would you swear if you were getting stomped on?
XD! I wouldn't. I guess i'm like Acrio they just don't come out of my mouth. Except, "Damn" and "Hell" every now and then. Besides I try using other words to replace them. I.E. Dang, Schick, Shiz, Frig. Which brings me to a question...if you use made up words as pronouns of curse words(so to speak) wouldn't these imaginary words be just as rude as the words they replace?
JRapidfire, do realize that you are currently on final warning before a temp ban for not only be silly enough to break the "do not bypasss the censor" rule right after I went through discussing it AND being disrespectful after being told to behave.
Oh, and don't push it because I always give out worse than I get... and the "I" includes more than just myself, which is just a warning.
I think everyone is missing one crusial fact about cursing, that is that it's a crusial part of online politics as pointed out by Red&Blue.
Normal people who discuss politics in a bar or cafe would have a perfectly civil conversation. Ie:
A: I have a opinion.
B: I have a difrent opinion, and I do not agree with A's opinion, but I respect his opinion as such.
Online however it seemes to be one's morral duty to defend one's own opinion to the abserlute death. Ie:
A: I have a opinion.
B: Thats Retarded man! How can you even think that!
A: Screw you, I'm right you're wrong.
B: You're a retard man!
A: Thats totaly lame...
B: Oh yeah! Well *B now explains his opinion, dispite the brakes in his tail caused by A's inssesent whineing.. of course this isn't his real opinion, its just the first thing that came out of his head that could be totaly oposite to what A said in the first place*
A: ...Oh yeah well go &*^& yourself!
B: %^&% You!
A: You deserve to die man!
B: OH YEAH WELL YOUR MOM!
A: I"M GONA FIND YOU AND KILL YOUR $#%^# @#$@#% $#@!
And so on and so forth.
From my experience, the opposite is true.
IRL, the general rule is the one with the loudest voice wins, whereas on the net, people who don't know what they're talking about are outcasted.
Sometimes, words will be censored even if they aren't actually curse words.
Look at the track listing of a D12 album:
3. P** P**
10. Purple P*
13. P Like Me
That's exactly what it says on the back of the CD case. The titles of those songs are, "Pistol Pistol", "Purple Pills", and "Pimp Like Me". I don't see the need for any of those words to be blocked out. "Puprle Pills" was a single, too.
See, "Purple P*" leaves too much to the imagination. It makes me think the censored word is a synonym for cat, and a dirty word for what's between my legs. "P Like Me" looks like it means, "Piss Like Me".
Recently, I bought a DVD that has a couple of those songs listed on the back, and they're not censored at all. Except for "Just Don't Give A *", which is understandble. On the original album, the back cover lists it as, "Just Don't Give A".
Last time I was looking at CD's, I looked at this one by Dr. Dre, and on the back I saw the f-, n-, and b- words left fully intact. It surprised me. I have another CD of his which is more recent, and it has all those words censored on the back.
My aunt bought me the edited version of the 50 Cent album for Christmas one year. It was edited very heavily, and for like half of each song I have to fill in the blanks myself.
One of the bonus tracks on the album is "Wanksta", which I have the unedited version of on the 8 Mile soundtrack.
There's a line where 50 says, "We've got guns the size of Lil' Bow Wow".
In the edited version, it goes, "We've got (pause) the size of Lil' Bow Wow".
That leaves WAY too much to the imagination, IMO.
I've heard words like "shoot", "gun", "kill", and "penis"(?!) scratched out of Eminem songs on the radio, yet the five-letter b- word will get past.
The edited "Superman" was hilarious, though. "I do know one thing, though. Chickens, they come, they go." I'd also like to point out that the 8 Mile DVD claims to have the uncensored version of the "Superman" video. The video is uncensored, but it plays the dubbed-over version of the song. I believe that's because MTV was originally intended to premiere the video, but Eminem decided not to at the last minute to make it a DVD exclusive. Considering the content of the song, I was anticipating a porno video, but no. It was hot, but not porno.
The most explicit line in "Just Lose It" was, "Yeah, boy, shake that ass!"
A friend told me heard it as "Yeah, boy, shake that thang!" in the video. That's odd, since "ass" usually doesn't count as a swear. I said that maybe it's because there were kids dancing in the video. It wouldn't have made sense for him to make Michael Jackson jokes and then tell young boys to shake their asses.
There was one song off the Encore album that was edited for content in the final cut. The original line was, "F money. I don't rap for dead presidents, I'd rather see the president dead." Over a year ago, an unfinished version of that song was stolen from his studio and leaked online. That particular line caused the FBI to investigate into it. They said they didn't actually think Eminem wanted to kill the president, but the concern was that somebody was misinterpret it so. President Bush has little to do with the context of that line--"dead presidents" is street talk for money, and that's what he meant.
I'm dissapointed that the word "dead" was scratched on the final version. The lyrical content is extremely tame compared to the likes of NWA ("F THA PO-LICE!!!").
Much of the examples of modern censorship I listed above are a result of post-Colombine and post-9/11 senistivity in America.
Astral "Online however it seemes to be one's morral duty to defend one's own opinion to the abserlute death. Ie:
A: I have a opinion.
B: Thats Retarded man! How can you even think that!
A: Screw you, I'm right you're wrong.
B: You're a retard man!
A: Thats totaly lame...
B: Oh yeah! Well *B now explains his opinion, dispite the brakes in his tail caused by A's inssesent whineing.. of course this isn't his real opinion, its just the first thing that came out of his head that could be totaly oposite to what A said in the first place*
A: ...Oh yeah well go &*^& yourself!
B: %^&% You!
A: You deserve to die man!
B: OH YEAH WELL YOUR MOM!
A: I"M GONA FIND YOU AND KILL YOUR $#%^# @#$@#% $#@!"
I totally agree =P. It seems like a lot of people can be really stubborn on the Internet. Probably because there's no chance of getting punched in the nose from someone halfway across the world.
I'd discuss the actual topic at hand, expect for the fact that pretty much everything has been said already. Eh...well, I do swear now and then, though I'm careful as to where I do it. While most of my friends wouldn't even blink at my cursing, I don't think some people at work would appreciate it. Swearing really doesn't bother me, though - they're just words...albiet ones with a certain stigma attached to them. We're generally taught that swearing is offensive (and it is if you're on the receiving end =P), so that's why some people react in such a way from just hearing it.
That's exactly what it says on the back of the CD case. The titles of those songs are, "Pistol Pistol", "Purple Pills", and "Pimp Like Me". I don't see the need for any of those words to be blocked out. "Puprle Pills" was a single, too.
See, "Purple P*" leaves too much to the imagination. It makes me think the censored word is a synonym for cat, and a dirty word for what's between my legs. "P Like Me" looks like it means, "Piss Like Me".
Recently, I bought a DVD that has a couple of those songs listed on the back, and they're not censored at all. Except for "Just Don't Give A *", which is understandble. On the original album, the back cover lists it as, "Just Don't Give A".
Last time I was looking at CD's, I looked at this one by Dr. Dre, and on the back I saw the f-, n-, and b- words left fully intact. It surprised me. I have another CD of his which is more recent, and it has all those words censored on the back.
My aunt bought me the edited version of the 50 Cent album for Christmas one year. It was edited very heavily, and for like half of each song I have to fill in the blanks myself.
One of the bonus tracks on the album is "Wanksta", which I have the unedited version of on the 8 Mile soundtrack.
There's a line where 50 says, "We've got guns the size of Lil' Bow Wow".
In the edited version, it goes, "We've got (pause) the size of Lil' Bow Wow".
That leaves WAY too much to the imagination, IMO.
I've heard words like "shoot", "gun", "kill", and "penis"(?!) scratched out of Eminem songs on the radio, yet the five-letter b- word will get past.
The edited "Superman" was hilarious, though. "I do know one thing, though. Chickens, they come, they go." I'd also like to point out that the 8 Mile DVD claims to have the uncensored version of the "Superman" video. The video is uncensored, but it plays the dubbed-over version of the song. I believe that's because MTV was originally intended to premiere the video, but Eminem decided not to at the last minute to make it a DVD exclusive. Considering the content of the song, I was anticipating a porno video, but no. It was hot, but not porno.
The most explicit line in "Just Lose It" was, "Yeah, boy, shake that ass!"
A friend told me heard it as "Yeah, boy, shake that thang!" in the video. That's odd, since "ass" usually doesn't count as a swear. I said that maybe it's because there were kids dancing in the video. It wouldn't have made sense for him to make Michael Jackson jokes and then tell young boys to shake their asses.
There was one song off the Encore album that was edited for content in the final cut. The original line was, "F money. I don't rap for dead presidents, I'd rather see the president dead." Over a year ago, an unfinished version of that song was stolen from his studio and leaked online. That particular line caused the FBI to investigate into it. They said they didn't actually think Eminem wanted to kill the president, but the concern was that somebody was misinterpret it so. President Bush has little to do with the context of that line--"dead presidents" is street talk for money, and that's what he meant.
I'm dissapointed that the word "dead" was scratched on the final version. The lyrical content is extremely tame compared to the likes of NWA ("F THA PO-LICE!!!" .
I have an album where the final song, as listed on the back, is "P*** It All Away" And the only reason I can think of why it's censored is because there is a child on the front taking a leak. It doesn't show anything, but for some reason a kid doing it changes things.
Another Eminem song "Ass Like That" got the word "peepee" changed to "slinky". Not that the word can be mistaken for much else, but if the b word and the a word and words like that are not censored, why "peepee"?
Also, there's a rock band called "F[etc.]"
I've never heard Gun or Kill censored before. But I've heard the word God censored. I find that truely pathetic.
Puddle of Mudd - "Come Clean"
I have that album, too. 😛
If it's an actual swear word, I can understand it being censored on the back cover.
"Slinky" sounds more suggestive than "peepee". XD
Yeah, and in "Lose Yourself", the edited version says "dog damn" instead of "god damn".
No, piss isn't a cuss word. Not to me anyway. God in "@#%$" is censored by law. The FFC rags won't allow the phrase. I mean just the word "God" censored. Trying not to offend, I suppose. How sad.