Aha, I see. I'll look into the libertarian party.

Oh yeah, guys, Shifty locked the thread I made, which was about listing controversial things, in the forum that's meant for debating.  I think something's wrong here.  Apparently Mada's original concern of the community's failing to argue has been unveiled as actual prohibition from debate.  That's not fair.

I think its because you introduced it as a hate list, rather than having controversial opinions. But I'll take a moment to say that I strongly disagree with Invader Zim being a "Masterpiece". Average show that has a bunch of rabid fangirls. Its not terrible, but its nowhere near as amazing as its made out to be because it has "Random" humor.

You can make a seperate topic for each of those things you wanted to discuss, but don't make a topic about hate; especially in here (where focus may be on specific people or groups of people). ;P

i didnt find anything offensive about cosmos's thread but i guess the title might encourage others to post racist comments if that's why you locked it shifty. i think you put up good points i will open one of the issues you talked about in a thread since it interests me. make threads of the other topics if you like cosmos, they can be disscussed indivisually
  

You can make a seperate topic for each of those things you wanted to discuss, but don't make a topic about hate; especially in here (where focus may be on specific people or groups of people). ;P

i didnt find anything offensive about cosmos's thread but i guess the title might encourage others to post racist comments if that's why you locked it shifty. i think you put up good points i will open one of the issues you talked about in a thread since it interests me. make threads of the other topics if you like cosmos, they can be disscussed indivisually

It doesn't even have to encourage "racism" to be a bad approach; that it's a big load of vicious ranting is bad enough.

Also, SoaC, the libertarian party isn't the only option either... supposedly the Constitution party is pretty libertarian too...

[quote:f9ee95eed3="Hukos wrote:

Where I'm from, anyone that isn't religious tends to be viewed as a 2nd class citizen by those "holier than thou". And this being the southeast, you get a LOT of those type of people. Granted, not all are like that. But I'll put it this way. It wasn't until I used the internet that I met someone who called themselves Christian that didn't come off as the biggest asshole I ever saw. I've really yet to meet someone irl (Not saying they don't exist, just talking about personal experiences) that was religious that didn't see themselves as better than me when they found out I don't believe the same thing that they do. A lot of southern baptists around here don't even want to associate with someone who isn't a super right-winger.

I'm rambling anyway, and if everyone else around me is right, then I'll be burning in hell. At least I'll get VIP tickets and get to hang out with Satan. And we all know Satan throws one mean party.

That breaks my heart.  =(  I honestly don't understand how fully-grown adults who are three times my age just can't grasp the basics of individual rights and putting themselves in another's shoes.  I'm so sorry you have to deal with loonies like that.  I promise there are a LOT of level-headed religious and/or spiritual folk out there.

matthayter700 wrote:

Also, SoaC, the libertarian party isn't the only option either... supposedly the Constitution party is pretty libertarian too...

Watching the video now, thanks!  

ShoeofallCosmos"]

Hukos wrote:

Where I'm from, anyone that isn't religious tends to be viewed as a 2nd class citizen by those "holier than thou". And this being the southeast, you get a LOT of those type of people. Granted, not all are like that. But I'll put it this way. It wasn't until I used the internet that I met someone who called themselves Christian that didn't come off as the biggest asshole I ever saw. I've really yet to meet someone irl (Not saying they don't exist, just talking about personal experiences) that was religious that didn't see themselves as better than me when they found out I don't believe the same thing that they do. A lot of southern baptists around here don't even want to associate with someone who isn't a super right-winger.

I'm rambling anyway, and if everyone else around me is right, then I'll be burning in hell. At least I'll get VIP tickets and get to hang out with Satan. And we all know Satan throws one mean party.

That breaks my heart.  =(  I honestly don't understand how fully-grown adults who are three times my age just can't grasp the basics of individual rights and putting themselves in another's shoes.  I'm so sorry you have to deal with loonies like that.  I promise there are a LOT of level-headed religious and/or spiritual folk out there.

Did you ever have to deal with religious pressure as a child?  Probably a stupid question, but I'm fascinated by when kids pop their heads above the cattle drive to say something that stupefies the grown-ups.  It seems that a lot of adults are so wrapped up in upholding traditional things that they can no longer fathom anything remotely unorthodox.  I guess it may be partly a case of being "set in the ways", but really, does it take that much effort to just consider a new idea?

Maybe someone can offer me an answer on this:  I've always wondered what in tarnation causes folks to believe one major religion over ALLLLL the others, when each and every one (excluding some) claims to be the only right path.  Where is the logic in this?  Some would argue that it's a matter of faith and not logic, and some even argue that logic is irrelevant.  I won't even get into the "believing fairy tales" part.  What causes people to believe one thing and disregard the others, when they all say the same thing?  Violence and hatred can't be it, because Christian and Islam are full of both, and they're the two largest religions on the planet.  Is it because children are brainwashed in Sunday School?

One thing I must touch before we move on, however:

I must corract u!  Invader Zim's quality isn't actually from the humor at all, if you'll notice -- It's from the satire of the public school system, capitalism, and the stupidity of the average person.  The hilarity lies in the characters' flawed logic and connecting two events that shouldn't logically be connected.  For example, the Irken race is a vertically-challenged people who equate height with intelligence.  The Irken race is smart enough to have advanced technology, but the fact that they can't distinguish a physical trait from a mental one points out that they have no sense.  And that's funny.  GIR only puts icing on the show; disregard him and his "random" humor to get to the meat of it.

Also, Jhonen Vasquez hates the emo kid fans that gravitate to his "scary" style, if that makes you feel better.

End derail.  =

Back to individual rights!!

P.S.  Thank you for the new thread, Mada!  Sorry for coming off as a dingus in the first one, guys.