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(@jimro)
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I figured that people ought to hear some of the success stories in Iraq so here's the first.

The Haditha Dam is operating at full capacity for the first time since 1990.

For the full story:

hotair.com/archives/2007/...ditha-dam/

Jimro

 
(@fexus)
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Very interesting. I bet nobody even knew that hydraulic dams existed in iraq.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Iraq has electricity? CNN told me the USAF bombed every single electrical pole int he Middle East, which single-handedly threw all Iraqi civilians back to the Stone Age, causing 28.9 million Iraqis to live in extreme poverty conditions.

 
(@jimro)
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SX, that made me smile :)

Electrical power generation is less of a problem than distribution. In some neighborhoods of Baghdad they are averaging about an hours worth of electicity per day. There are a lot of challenges on the way to stability, but if we can stay the course we can overcome.

Heck, it took almost thirty years to full Phillipine independence.

Jimro

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Kurdistan: 60 Minutes

Some pictures of Kurdistan.

If we ever leave Iraq (like the Democrats want us to), we should leave all of our military equipment to the Kurds.

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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NSF56K

Seriously. Why don't we ever hear about these things?

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Because only those of us that care about such facts bother to post in these and/or read these threads.

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Good point.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Rename the thread "Why America Failed In Iraq" and I guarantee you people'll come in, only to be faced with a ton of images to the contrary.

 
(@thecycle)
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I think you should rename the thread to "Right-Wing Circle Jerk" so that those of us looking for something positive to read won't be disappointed and vaguely embarrassed.

Seriously, get a room.

 
(@toby-underwood)
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Lawl, Cycle has the only pessimistic post in the thread.

On topic, awesome stuff. To bad the media is more concerned with death and destruction instead of this kinda stuff.

~Tobe

 
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[edited, awaiting educated Cyc comment.][*is trying hard not to be sarcastic here*][*is mostly failing*]

 
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(@sandygunfox)
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SHUT UP ULTRA THAT POSITIVE MESSAGE - AAH I FEAR IT *quiver* I MIGHT BE WRONG ON SOMETHING IF THAT'S TRUE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL LIES! ALL LIES O___O

 
(@toby-underwood)
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Looks like Bubs is /possess-ing SX. XD

~Tobe

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killing of US soldiers.

Why do I need to go to a Kuwaiti news service in order to find out that troop deaths have gone down 60% since the new measures were implemented?

ABC? CNN? NBC? CBS?

...FOX?

Hello?

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Y'know, everyone I've seen talk about the people in Iraq - mostly TV shows, but I've spoken to at least one in person, one on one, about it - say that the majority of citizes feel life is improving, they're optimistic and happy, and that the continued insurgency is "an obstacle to be overcome"

...they also express surprise when told how badly the US Media portrays the war.

One other thing: the innocent deaths in Iraq's violence are a fraction of the innocent deaths in our own cities' violence.

...so why the hell do we have mass protests against Iraq, but everyone just accepts violence in the US?

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EDIT TWO: I don't know that this is a valid point to argue, but I thought it was pretty damn funny.

 
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(@sandygunfox)
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Well Ultra, we all know this already. It's just that the people who DON'T know this, the ones that are so convinced we've screwed the Iraqi's over, aren't going to read a thread like this except to hypocritically criticize our massing of news articles, as they choose to remain ignorant of anything that doesn't match their opinion. We can post more and more news here until our postcounts are sky high, but it won't matter a damn to the rest of the world.

 
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Iraqi Commander: Civil war is "impossible"

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Baghdad, July 26, (VOI)- The commander of the Baghdad's law-imposing plan "Fardh al-Qanoon" said on Thursday that possibilities for a sectarian civil war in Iraq have come to an end after five months of implementing the plan, as indicators assert the end of sectarian congestion.

Speaking at a joint press conference with a U.S. senior officer in Baghdad, the Lieutenant General Aboud Qunbur said "crimes and bombs declined by 90 percent and 45 percent respectively, while casualties decreased by 40 percent and car bombs by 15 percent."
"Normal life back to many regions in Baghdad," he added, asserting that Iraq will not collapse into a civil war.
Iraqi and U.S. troops have been involved in a large-scale operation called "Fardh al-Qanoon," since mid-February, in a bid to quell bombings and sectarian violence in the Iraqi capital Baghdad.
The commander also spoke about the military operations and the siege imposed by security forces on locals from al-Husayniyah district in northern Baghdad, saying that "militias in this region sealed off main roads, planting roadside bombs and attacking security forces to prevent them from entering into the region, the matter that led the joint Iraqi and U.S. troops to use the force to enter into the region," expressing sorry over casualties among civilians in the attack.
"The operation needs long time to get positive results," Qunbur also said.
"A total of 114 displaced families have retuned to their houses in Baghdad," the officer noted.
For his part, the U.S. General Adriano said that "suicide bombers enter into Iraq through the Syrian borders and armed groups smuggle shield-penetrating weapons from Iran to Iraq."
"The U.S. army lost many soldiers last May, the matter that pushed the forces to intensify the military operations in Baghdad," the general added.
3,640 soldiers have been killed in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003, as officially reported by the U.S. army.
From this number, 61 soldiers have been killed in July so far.
126 servicemen were killed in May.
November 2004, however, remains the highest month of U.S. casualties as 137 soldiers were killed in fierce battles between the U.S. army and armed groups in Falluja, capital of the Sunni province of Anbar, 45 km north of Baghdad.
April 2004 comes second with 135 U.S. deaths.


But...Harry Reid said the war is lost...

 
(@sandygunfox)
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I heard that civil war was "inevitable" from other sources. Ha.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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So did I. Lots - including a few who reckon that it's there in all but name already.

I accept that 114 families is a success, but set against how many still dispossessed?

Is the part where things're "normal" the Green Zone? What's "normal", anyway?

If things're going so well with the "surge", why's Bush building a wall?

I appreciate that this thread's for successes, but I still think that it needs more of a sense of perspective.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Say that to every other thread that has something to do with the Iraq war or WOT or whatever you want to call it. 😉

I'd call it a success that they're replacing families, not displacing more families. The number is pretty insignificant, the fact that they're doing it at all is not.

 
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(@thehiddenvux)
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I can't really say that I can believe the invasion of Iraq will be a success, at least not in the sense of creating a democracy. I can only think of one country the U.S. invaded and made a democracy off the top of my head (Japan). All the rest of the countries the U.S. has interfered in have been ruined.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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Germany? Panama? South Korea? I would say the US has "interfered" in those, and they're not exactly third-world hellholes, as far as I know.

Those three are just off the top of my head.

 
(@Anonymous)
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We succeeded in vietnam. Intill we left and the democrats refused to send more support back to the south when the north reinvaded.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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We were capable militarily, but not politically willing.

 
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