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(@sonicsfan1991)
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in many cities where i live there's been this repeated frightening crim, something that is very scary....they pour acid on people's faces.
we have an increasing number of cases so far for the past 5 years. and its increasing, the investigation by police says they use acid from cars.. i dont know if that's true or not i didnt know cars had acid. but if it is true then anyone has access to it and no one is safe.

anyway the targets are liberals, famous people and <takes a huge breath> pretty women X_____X
the crims first started with girls in colleges attacking other girls... i remember the first story was in a magizine i think that's what started it and where they got this idea : ( i'm really scared of this. i mean its beyond mean its so incredibly cruel and wicked. i dont know what my country is doing to stop it. i know they are iron fisted with the criminals and will serve justice.. .but its the victims i'm hurt about. they need to make this stop for god sake this is freaking me out. of all the mean things people can do to one another i think this tops it... i seen pictures of the vicitims its so scary... its not something any person should suffer... they all say it would be better if they killed them instead of deforming them like that. the face is everything to a person, you can hide or fix anything but the face : ( i saw those people's faces its just too wrong what happened to them half of them were amazingly beautifuly before now they....... i just dont know what to say about this topic i'm scared of it. and more scared there's people out there that would take everything from a person with such an evil evil crime. i'm mentioning this topic now cause there was a recent attack this time on a newspaper article writer. they havent found his attacker, it happened while he was in his car with the window down.

why do sick crazy people do this, i wish there was a line no one, not even the most insane crossed. and that line would pervent anyone from doing this crime espacially this crime.

 
(@matthayter700)
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sonicsfan1991 wrote:


they all say it would be better if they killed them instead of deforming them like that.  the face is everything to a person, you can hide or fix anything but the face.

I think it's awfully telling about how vain people are nowadays that they treat their faces as more important than their lives. I would think that life even with a disfigured face (on a sidenote, I think "deformed" is the word for that which one is born with) is better than nothing. The problems "caused" by having a disfigured face are really more so caused by how others react to it; if such reactions make someone whose disfigured face isn't their fault think they'd be better off dead, then I think there is more blame to go around than JUST to the perpetrators of such crimes.

As for how to prevent it, simply better regulate sulfuric acid, (the one used in car batteries) at least thoroughly questioning people who ask for it on why exactly they need it, ideally keeping track of who asked for it and when, and if possible finding some means to lock car batteries into cars such that only qualified personnel who report to authorities every now and then can remove them.
Perhaps it might even be an idea to consider pouring acid on the perpetrators as part of punishment, not so much for an eye for an eye as for a deterrent to the other perpetrators of such crimes. Then again, things don't get this bad just from insufficient deterrence alone, so either way, an attempt to better understand the causes of such behaviour would be called for.
 
(@xemesis)
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Its arguable if they are better off dead, Totally ruined face = goodbye social life.

 
(@matthayter700)
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Xemesis wrote:


Its arguable if they are better off dead, Totally ruined face = goodbye social life.

If having a "ruined face" for reasons that are not their own fault would end their social life, it wasn't a very meaningful social life in the first place. If their "friends" would abandon them for something like that, it is up to the rest of us not to associate with said "friends." (There's also the cliched question of whether or not they count as true friends... then again, that's only about whatever friendship's about in theory, it's pretty obvious that it's not like that in practice because people tend not to live up to it.)
Besides, there's more to life than having a social life. I have few friends and don't talk even to them very often, you wouldn't see me kill myself over it. Hell, I don't even mind that much. I'd rather cut myself off socially than become dependent on a social life...
EDIT: Besides, there's always online communities like this one.
 
(@trudi-speed)
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Actually injuries caused by acid are much more severe than just disfigurement. The skin will lose it's moisture and the victim will probably have to use intensive treatments on their face every day for the rest of their lives, and they often end up wearing a plastic mask just to keep the skin moist for pretty much most of the day. The skin will form scar tissue which of course doesn't stretch, leaving the victim unable to even smile without surgery. The worst case senarios are where it pretty much burns away the eyelids, or blinds the victim. And of course most people's reaction to getting something splashed into their face is to cover their face with their hands, so often the hands get pretty horrible burns too, again in the worst case restricting movement in the hands.

Even said with all of that, I think "it would be better if they killed them" is a pretty horrible viewpoint. People can live good, fulfilling lives dispite all that, like Katie Piper, who was raped then attacked in this way in London in early 2008. The attack left her blind in one eye and unable to smile, but she had pioneering surgery enabling her to express emotion facially again. She is doing amazing work for people with burns and is still very much beautiful dispite how horrific her attack wa

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Someone else who's stuck very much in my mind this week is Dallas Wiens (in spite of the topic, I feel as though I ought to say that some of you may find some of the pre-transplant images disturbing), the recipient of a full face transplant. His own attitude, and that of his family, really blew me away. And in a good way.

My self esteem is very low, and I'm not sure that I'd react as well to the level of disfigurement he had as he did. But I wouldn't see the loss of my looks as worse than death. It's just an experience to take on and grow from - and as has already been said, if you can come through it, you can always help the next person.

 
(@shifty)
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Too much to even think about and I'm not sure anyone can honestly express their opinion on being attacked that way if it hasn't happened. They just can't.

Even if you wanted to live there would be people in your lives who would want to let you die out of pity. You don't know how thinking about that would make you feel if it hasn't happened. How are these people going to support themselves with burned faces and hands? What jobs could they do?

It's a social/ableness BOMB. It's an eraser crueler than death because the attacker wants you to realize you are already dead.

No one can afford face surgery.

"wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects."-sonicsfan1991

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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We don't all live in countries where the recipient has to pay for it.

You seem to be writing these people off quite arbitrarily, though.

 
(@hukos)
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Samanfur the Fox wrote:


We don't all live in countries where the recipient has to pay for it.

You seem to be writing these people off quite arbitrarily, though.

Edit: I just Derped HARD

Ignore this post.

 
(@shifty)
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Sorry; I'll be more clear; here in America health care is not free, its all paid for by the patient and surgery costs thousands of dollars.

"wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects."-sonicsfan1991

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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I should've been a little more clear on my position (other than just my location), too. I'm currently working for a charity that's run by the disabled, for the disabled - so I've seen what people with facial disfigurements or missing digits're capable of doing. It's true that some employers'll baulk at putting someone who doesn't look like Megan Fox front of house, but there's no need to write off people who've either been born with or developed a problem like that. They might not always be as visible as the "normal", pretty people, but they're out there.

 
(@matthayter700)
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Samanfur the Fox wrote:


It's true that some employers'll baulk at putting someone who doesn't look like Megan Fox front of house

Another example of how vain our society is nowadays. And it's obviously not just the employers, because if it was, they would have done so anyway because there would have been more financial incentive to do so.

 
(@shifty)
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Is it really about being vain if someone's physical characteristics frighten someone?

"wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects."-sonicsfan1991

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Not in the most common sense, but yes. I'd question why someone thought the physical characteristics were frightening - if they saw these people more regularly, maybe they wouldn't see it that way. That's vanity on behalf of the employer who wants to present an image of only pretty people.

 
(@hukos)
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tbqh that's the kind of image that sells... whatever it is that the business is trying to sell. People aren't going to buy something if the person representing it is ugly, so the employer who is in the business of making money, has no choice but to follow along. It's a nasty cycle, of course. But an employer doesn't have much of a choice if he's in it to make money. It's just the way the world works.

 
(@matthayter700)
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tbqh that's the kind of image that sells... whatever it is that the business is trying to sell. People aren't going to buy something if the person representing it is ugly, so the employer who is in the business of making money, has no choice but to follow along. It's a nasty cycle, of course. But an employer doesn't have much of a choice if he's in it to make money. It's just the way the world works.

Exactly, and this is why I say to blame not just the employer but the public as a whole... or most of it, anyway.

 
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