Phantom Limb Syndrome refers to the sensation felt by approximately 80% of amputees that one or more of their missing limbs are still attached to their body and moving appropriately with all of their other body parts. The majority of these sensations are painful.
Phantom sensations may also occur after the removal of body parts other than the limbs, eg. after amputation of a breast, extraction of a tooth (phantom tooth pain) or removal of an eye (phantom eye syndrome). The missing limb often feels shorter and may feel as if it is in a distorted and painful position. Occasionally, the pain can be made worse by stress, anxiety and weather changes.
A slightly different sensation known as phantom pains can also occur in people who are born without limbs and people who are paralysed. Phantom pains occur when nerves that would normally innervate the missing limb causes pain. It is often described as a burning or similarly strange sensation and can be extremely agonising for some people, but the exact sensation differs widely for individuals. Other induced sensations include warmth, coldness, itching, squeezing, tightness and tingling.
I believe that the major underlying reason why people can sometimes feel phantom body parts/sensations is because their astral body remains intact. My belief is that every object in the physical plane has an astral counterpart which is its source. Our physical bodies are no different in this regard. While our astral bodies remain lodged within our physical bodies, they assume the same shape and size as our physical bodies. The five senses (ie. seeing, hearing, tasting, touching and smelling) originate from the astral body of one's soul and are never subject to deterioration in and of themselves. Thus, there have been written records of numerous people throughout history, though born blind and/or born deaf, who have yet been remarkably able to produce stunningly accurate and beautiful representations of the world around them or compose sublime music respectively (despite their sensory handicaps). Check out this painting:
At first glance, it appears to simply be a decent painting. Yet, it's actually an EXCELLENT painting if one considers the fact that the Turkish man responsible for this painting, Esref Armagan, was BORN BLIND. Here are several more lovely paintings from this incredible man:
Esref Armagan is one of my personal heroes. He has CLEARLY shown to the people of our planet that the internal eye is greater and more refined than the external eye. I firmly believe that though people might be physically born blind and/or deaf, these defects do not plague their astral bodies. That is why you can read accounts of near-death/out-of-body experiences by blind/deaf people who claim to have been able to see/hear whilst in an out-of-body state. Our astral senses are governed by mental forces, NOT physical forces (which govern the expression of our astral senses through our physical bodies).
So there you go, that's what I think. I think that our astral bodies (and perhaps other bodies or soul-encasings) are the cause of phantom limbs and phantom sensations.
So what's your saying is that...
IS A LIE? ;__;
I can kind of feel phantom limbs if I try. Ones I never had o.o
The whole phantom limb thing, I always thought was from an association that people have with having felt the particular limb for the entirety of their life up until it was lost.
I am no expert on the subject, but I'm fairly certain that those who list limbs at an early (infant) stage of their life have no such sensations. I do admit, it is a rather awesome testiment to the power of the mind and can easily be attributed to the soul or "astral form" as you claim, not to say I neccessarily believe in such things, but it is an easy arguement to make, regardless of it's validity.
Also, if that artist was born blind, I am majorly impressed. I truly cannot imagine how someone who has never percieved a whale in their life would be able to draw one so colorfully. I'd google, but I'm not that intrigued by it, but I am impressed and it sure is inspirational.
Rishi I don't get it. Do you just decide to believe whatever sounds cool?
Sure, it's possible. But to be firmly believed in? It's a crazy theory, not anything with any scientific basis or... well... anything to be believed in. Just some magical concept of astral planes and whatnot.
I'm not going to refute any of this because I can't prove that something doesn't exist. Well, something this obscure at least. But honestly you just say "Well, here's an idea and I believe in it." and it's a bit silly. You could actually put some thought into why people feel pain in their limbs after they're gone or why a blind guy can paint... or you can go and talk about astral planes and why it makes soooo much sense.
Because they feel their limbs in their brain and their brain isn't gyooonnnn
Do you just decide to believe whatever sounds cool?
No, I believe whatever personally makes sense to me. Also, I don't think anything I've said in this thread is 'crazy' at all, but hey, different strokes for different folks.
But WHY does it make sense? Where's the logic in astral projections? It's just a concept without anything to base it off of. >
That's what ticks me off about Rishi's speculative topics he keeps making. Their entire premise is flights of fancy and science fiction, which is today's equivalent of faerie tales and pixie dust. Yet he takes them completely seriously.
It ticks me off more that he can't just keep them in a single topic for convenient avoidance.
Although i've got to say that in my opinion this one has a bit more going for it than his usual business. Except for this whole blind from birth artist rubbish. While he is indeed blind from birth it is nothing like as mystical or supernatural as is being made out.
I have searched up on the artist, and he paints portraits by having a sighted person trace the outline of a photograph and working with that. So it is not quite what Rishi is telling us. I have done further research and found one particularly interesting article here which explains how the artist works. He simply uses increadible observance - not in sight, but in touch and hearing. He listened when people described colours of things, and felt things to learn their shapes. Simple
Nah, the whole thing makes no sense. He says that the astral part is unharmed when the arm is cut off. But when something is unharmed, that usually doesn't hurt, eh?
Also, do some research on the phantom limb syndrome -- it's not some kind of total mystery. I went over it in psychology already and whatnot.
Here's some scientific findings some guys found:
Yeah you're right, i agree with you. Your post makes more sense than all of rishi's topics so far.
Phantom sensations are not a mystery. The brain has areas corresponding to functions and there is flexibility so a musician who uses complex hand maneuvers may have more of the brain's physical movement map devoted to their hands.
The actual explanation is far cooler, and the artist's methods far more inspirational, than this astral nonsense.
It seems you believe in mythology specifically because it is unscientific. Science is often referenced as support for incorrect conclusions, and we shouldn't ignore anecdotal information or thought experiments simply because they aren't science, but these are quasi-religious ideas with virtually no justification.
It's cheese that made him draw those. And you can't prove it's not.
~Rico
I can sure as hell prove that
The dude's lactose intolerant
So was paul revere.
rishi let me hold your spirit hand, and tell you the truths
D:
Do you just decide to believe whatever sounds cool?
No, I believe whatever personally makes sense to me. Also, I don't think anything I've said in this thread is 'crazy' at all, but hey, different strokes for different folks.
And whatever mades sense happens to sound cool. Notice a pattern here?
