it's like me and sugery products..i know they're bad for me, but i can't help getting cravings for them. (fruit helps.)

seems a bit like peer pressure with you and your freind. not like they're making you smoke, but that fact that it feels easier to smoke with them around and they keep tempting you with offers of fags.
i gave smoking a go when i was 13 and was nearly sick each time, which quickly put me off, no matter how much my 'freind' at the time tried to pursuade me.

most i'd say is try and resist as there's no health benifits from puffing all that smoke, tar and other chemicals into your lungs.

if you really want to be put off smoking..i've a wonderfully scary image i made for an anti-smoking poster on my DA account. >>

Hang on now. I'm not sure if I understand the point of this thread. You are not yet addicted to cigarettes, however you are completely aware of their addictive and harmful properties, but you're smoking them anyways because "why not?" Uh.... yeah, you might want to stop. Do it now while you still can.

It really is quite simple. Don't. Smoke. Cigarettes.

Cigars, good ones, you can probably get away with for a while. I've had a few in my time, basically one or two a month will taste good and make you look like a colossal badass. Still not a good idea though.

Honestly, if you're going to smoke something it had best be pot. The danger of lung damage is still there, but they're not at all addictive, you're only smoking one or two in a sitting (and in most cases, once a week at the most), you get a great 1-3 hour high, and you feel like a million bucks in the morning.

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I've had a few in my time, basically one or two a month will taste good and make you look like a colossal badass. Still not a good idea though.

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XDXD Bad@$$ indeed. But yea 2k, i'm sure you know all the statistics, and you've seen all the Truth commercials(which I totally love), but yea as my friend would say "Tobacco is wacko". It's the #1 killer dude. Just don't get caught up in it, please.

I've inhaled more second-hand smoke in my years than you'd ever believe. And yes, I do get a headache and start to feel miserable it I'm away from a smoker for too long. I still refuse to do it, though, despite being legally able.

It is NOT hard at all to get addicted to these things. You may already have a minor one, which would explain why this is even a problem at all... you probably WANT to smoke. I agree with Cycle's response (though not necessarily his alternatives...)-- simply quit. NOW. Don't risk further dependance.

Chew gum. Start jogging. Channel any desires you have toward some productive means. Just stop it, okay?

-Jake

Stop now while you can.

Or else your lungs will go black on you. o.o

Pot is wonderful it makes my mom not yell.

Say no to Cigs, my good man. They're addictive, full of more toxic crap than a New York Street Hooker's twat, and will take so much money from your wallet.
An occasional cigar now and then is ok, however.

And why would you smoke a cig? There's no buzz. Go get a dimer or a bottle of Crown. Neither of which are addictive.

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No, I am the #1 killer.

...sorry.

Fecking social smokers. I got a friend who does that. @ you.

Basically though. I'm not going to say what you should or shouldn't do.

You know that smoking is bad for you etc. to be honest I think you are slightly addicted. Have you tried the various nicotine based products (gum etc.) to ween yourself off of the bad stuff.

Also about the big guy upstairs. He created the plant for us to use it. And we do. Just like he gave men opposible thumbs to do the naughty thing we all do in the toilet. Oh yes. Calm down that is all I am saying. Don't quit for him upstairs quit for yourself.

I have to be the ones that inhale smoke like kau. I just turned 14 a month or so ago, So im no were near smokeing legal age. Nor will I whean I hit legal age. (I accadently drinked wiskey whean I was 5 or 6 but I spit it out.;>> moveing on) loseing someone you love over some thing dumb like this is crazy. I think you should try the patch,gum,pill (?) or something along thouse lines. I wish you luck to quit and win the heart of your sweetheart.

Dude don't. 3 fo my 4 grandparents died from soemthing somking related or something smoking made worse (now granted when they smoked no thought it would cause health problems. Now my brother smokes and he says from time to tiem to never smoke, as its a nasty, disgusting, moeny-wasting, habit (basically in his words). And all of it is true. So stay away from it.

You aren't physically addicted, you just feel pressured by your friends. It's just something that sounds good because smoking makes you look mature and introspective plus your friends and favorite celebrities are smoking!

I smoke a pack a day of Skydancer (what a pleasant name for a cigarette brand!) Full Flavor shorts because when I quit smoking I feel nauseous and depressed. Skydancers have no additives and are organic tobacco,so I can't even imagine how bad withdrawl must be if you smoke Camels or Malboros every day.

Three or four cigarettes won't do it though. I smoked about a pack every two weeks when I was ages 14-17 and then the second a school friend turned 18 I went into a year long transition to a pack a day. I mostly feel the need to smoke when I'm driving or taking a break at work. I smoke when I'm drinking too, but that's more of a social thing. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and go sit outside and have a cigarette.

But don't worry about me! Cause I still feel like a badass when I'm driving 80 miles an hour down the freeway with a smoke and classic rock on the radio. My quitting date is May 8,2008 because once I'm really an adult with a college degree I won't be cool enough anymore to listen to Zepplin so what's the point.

What Cycle said about pot.

Astrid you smoke?! Awww...and you're[you were] such a babe. *simulatenously electricuted and struck by lightning* I hate seeing women smokers, it's not so much it's[smoking] nasty but i anything let a man do it. Save the women. *killed*

I enjoy pot whenever I got the opportunity to smoke it (which is to say I've been clean for about a year, dammit all), but my main smoking vice is Djarum clove cigarettes. After work, once every week, I go out on my balcony with a chair and a bottle of beer and I smoke a clove. And you know what? That is super-relaxing for me. It's almost like a routine now, a verification that the 'week's over'.

...because once I'm really an adult with a college degree I won't be cool enough anymore to listen to Zepplin...

Tool/Sell-out

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i personally like to think of the south park episode with the cigarette company. for most people it does relax them, sure it has risks, but so long as you're willing to except them i don't see a problem with it.

i personally don't smoke. (i'm underage for one.) but i like to drink every now and then.

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Honestly, if you're going to smoke something it had best be pot. The danger of lung damage is still there, but they're not at all addictive, you're only smoking one or two in a sitting (and in most cases, once a week at the most), you get a great 1-3 hour high, and you feel like a million bucks in the morning.

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Cycle is right, it may be illegal, but it's better than cigarettes. Although it can screw your brain up if you're not careful, preferbly what you want if you're doing a rock album.

Well thanks for all the replies. In all honesty, I enjoy smoking. With cigarettes though I was a wuss and refused to take it to my lungs. =b Maybe that's a good thing. I should knock it the hell off entirely, but I promised someone I wouldn't do it.... However, if it wasn't for that promise I'd probobly still have a "once a month cigar" or some form of non-chemical loaded cigarettes. The biggest problem for me is that I don't want a bunch of health problems, and I definately don't want a habit.

Right now my mind is in a battle about it all. I'll stop for the sake of my darling Nikita, but if I was without her, or done with the promise, I sometimes wonder if I'd still be over it or if I'd keep on going. I don't think God really gives a care if I smoke, but breaking a promise to the person I care about with all my heart is something that really rips at me. I'm a confession nazi, I'll certainly tell her I broke the promise that one night someday. =b

As for doing pot instead....eh, I don't wanna get tied up in that stuff. I especially hate thinking about where the money of all that goes into. That's one thing I proudly say I'll never do.

I will say I agree many times with the anti-smoking things, but some pictures, or ads on the radio or TV are just....rediculous. Truly. Along with that, it seems as if the country is making those who smoke seem like the low-side of society, and it sucks. My dad tells me he wants to smoke again just because it bugs him.

Sooo yeah, in the end, I know I gotta quit.....entirely. Promise or not, I have to try my best. I should be okay because I only do it when my friend offers. I mean right now, I just got 60 dollars out of the bank. No reason...I'm going out, maybe I'll see something nice, but I don't want to buy anything to smoke on, so it's not like I plan on buying it, or desire it so. But if I do it again... I don't know. >_<

~T2K

As for doing pot instead....eh, I don't wanna get tied up in that stuff. I especially hate thinking about where the money of all that goes into.
If it's BC bud, probably the pocket of some beer-drinking hoser in Squamish.

How can any one enjoy smokeing? your lungs get blacker thean a black hole! pot is bat because it illegal and you start to do crazy things. Your girlfirend have more worth thean a pack of legal death in cigerette form.But hey, What leagal smoker is gonna listen to a 14 year old?

Sonic Candy, does your breath really stink or are you just talking outta your ass?

I do, however, agree on your hypothesis that smoking is bat(sic).

My breath only skinks whean I wake up in the moreing
(That's another story). Talking with your butt is rude . Thank's for agreeing with my hypothesis. Also, call me candy, sc, or cat girl. but PLEASE DON'T CALL ME SONNY!

If nothing else, do it for your girl. If you care about her as much as you seem to, then it's not even about your health... it's about keeping her around. You have no idea how incredibly seriously some girls take smokers, and I don't want to see you lose her.

Well, technically, I don't have to see it. But I don't want that to happen to you, so... stop.

-Jake

Every time I see someone smoke I think of my mother. Don't smoke. Do it for the SX! Or ...anyone else who posted.

But yeah stop now rather than later. Ask anyone - it really annoys a lot of nonsmokers to have to sit in the smoke, or to smell it on your breath. You don't want to annoy everyone you know, right? Of course not. >>

Interesting...

I found a few interesting facts on the Wiki page on tobacco...looks like organic or not, ciggies still pump you full of stuff...ooh look! Neurotoxin pesticide!Oh, and hey, check this out.

My elementary school had the most effective anti-smoking propaganda ever. They showed us pictures of smokers with captions like SMOKING IS GLAMOROUS, but they were the ugliest people ever and had to talk and smoke through their necks and that sort of shock value. They should do that at every school. I wouldn't have smoked anyway, but if I'd ever considered it, those would deter me and I bet they did deter some other students.

I would like to add, that women are more effected by smoking than men are (whether it were first or second hand) so your beloved one might be the one to pay the price of her health because of you.

When you smoke you will get cancer, there is no way to avoid that. Cancer is very painful, my grandmother had lung cancer, it was horrible to see her struggle 3 years in pain and 2 weeks in the intensive care unite after having her lung removed with pipes in her mouth moving blood out of her chest. All she did was cry, she couldn't speak because of the pipes going through her mouth.

It is an ugly way to die. I for one wouldn't want to die in a hospital bed with pipes in my mouth. And the smell of cancer is unnerving, it turns the stomach. It smells like blooded toothpicks.
Don't cause yourself or others this pain. You might live happily for many years but when the time comes, is this how you want to die?

If you have a problem with smoking and can't let go of it, visit cancer patients at the hospital, see if you want to end like them or not.

I know I have this picture on my computer somewhere of a tumour the size of a small melon that they removed from some guy's lung after he smoked a pack a day for 30 years.

Maybe I should post it.

Yes @ Bat

Sound gross. Not to be nosey, But why do have picture of someone tumour on your computer? To show everyone that smokeing is bad?

I smoked for a month. The result was an empty wallet, a horridly performed solo in jazz band, and a nervous twitch from the nicotine.

No, I like my money, like my lungs, and dislike twitching. But if thats your bag, have fun.

~Reeko

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Those are good points for quitting <good for you, dear> smoking is also known for causing morning breath. Oh and you do not want to know the gum and teeth diseases caused from smoking, It is absolutely horrible. once I were in the dentil surgeon's office, and saw pictures of his other patients' teeth it was revolting. I couldn't believe people had such serious dental problems from smoking.
I never even knew there were surgeons in dental clinics before my surgery five years ago. And some think dentists are frightening.

I just noticed the title of the thread is "Smorking".

Acriooooooo!

~T2K

I don't see what he's saying that isn't a valid personal opinion or doesn't make sense. Leave him alone, Geogwe.

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True.

But, yeah, smoking isn't exactly the best thing to get into. You'd be better off with pot. Oh, or those candy cigarettes that little kids eat. Yum.

Oh man! It been years sense I had candy cigarettes! Been To busy Testing the new candyies. Plus, Why is there pot but not plate. or bowl? Why? Oh and Adults should always listen to kids/teens because we can be just as smart as them.

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At least cigs don't have this kind of effect.

Or these...

Not much better, is it?

Any other questions go here.

Anything in excess is bad, Cy. Marajuana, cigarettes, babies and triscuits are no exception to this.

I never said pot was good. It was just in my opinion that it is better than cigarettes.

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And the Rocky movies.

'nuff sed

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At least cigs don't have this kind of effect.

Or these...

Not much better, is it?

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But that's not causing deaths, exactly, just mental problems. When I say "just" mental problems, I mean, would you rather let your friend have mental problems or dying a slow death? I would also think getting mental problems from cannabis is less likely than dying from cigarettes.

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I smell that all the time around my apartments. >> Populated by several million On-Welfare black people. Not tryin' to be racist or anything, but this kinda thing sticks out.

Actually, I remember hearing awhile back that 1 joint was the equivalent to somewhere around 4 cigarettes in terms of toxins. Your lungs weren't made to take smoke of any kind...

Actually, I remember hearing awhile back that 1 joint was the equivalent to somewhere around 4 cigarettes in terms of toxins.
Uh, no. First of all, even if that were true, as I said, the average regular pot user is doing one or two joints in a sitting, once or twice a week. The average tobacco smoker is doing a pack a day, every day. From Wikipedia:

A 1998 French governmental report commissionned by Health Secretary of State Bernard Kouchner, and directed by Dr. Pierre-Bernard Roques, classed drugs according to addictiveness and neurotoxicity. It placed heroin, cocaine and alcohol in the most addictive and lethal categories; benzodiazepine, hallucinogens and tobacco in the medium category, and cannabis in the last category. The report stated that "Addiction to cannabis does not involve neurotoxicity such as it was defined in chapter 3 by neuroanatomical, neurochemical and behavioral criteria. Thus, former results suggesting anatomic changes in the brain of chronic cannabis users, measured by tomography, were not confirmed by the accurate modern neuro-imaging techniques. Moreover, morphological impairment of the hippocampus [which plays a part in memory and navigation] of rat after administration of very high doses of THC (Langfield et al., 1988) was not shown (Slikker et al., 1992)." Health Secretary Bernard Kouchner concluded that : "Scientific facts show that, for cannabis, no neurotoxicity is demonstrated, to the contrary of alcohol and cocaine."
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The effects of tobacco and cannabis smoking differ, however, as they affect different parts of the respiratory tract: whereas tobacco tends to penetrate to the smaller, peripheral passageways of the lungs, cannabis tends to concentrate on the larger, central passageways. One consequence of this is that cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not appear to cause emphysema. Also, unlike tobacco, regular cannabis use does not appear to cause COPD, either.
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It is important to note that in some cases, a cannabis user may encounter commercial tobacco in joints (popular in Europe), added tobacco with hash in chillum (India), or cannabis rolled in tobacco leaves, which would expose the user to the additional risks of tobacco, though nothing on the same order as regular tobacco use.
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Cannabis smoke contains numerous compounds known to cause cancer. Surprisingly, however, scientific studies have failed to show higher cancer rates in cannabis smokers. A study published in 2006 on a large population sample (1,200 people with lung, neck, or head cancer, and a matching group of 1,040 without cancer) failed to positively correlate a lung cancer risk, in fact the results indicated a slight negative correlation between long and short-term cannabis use and cancer, suggesting a possible therapeutic effect. This followed an even larger 1997 study examining the records of 64,855 Kaiser patients, which also found no positive correlation between cannabis use and cancer. It has been noted, separately, that THC, a dilative agent, may help cleanse the lungs by dilating the bronchia, and could actively reduce the instance of tumors. Additionally, a study by Rosenblatt et al. found no association between marijuana use and the development of head and neck squamous cell carcinoma.

Nice find,cyc. Most people don't belive In wiki for some dumb resaon. wonder why..

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Um, Cyc? Yes it is. It physically beats out a new niche in certain receptors in your brain so that they can't even accept ther natural chemicals anymore; the user then needs the stuff to feel NORMAL. You tell me that isn't addicition.

A more recent study shows that...

...The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana abuse indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term abuse of other major drugs. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine. Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.

So I guess altering the brain structure doesn't count for anything, huh Cyc?

...A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers. Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.

Before you dismiss this, I'd daresay that frequently does not equal chain-smoking...maybe I donno...once or twice a week? That sounds fairly frequent to me.

Actually, you're right, there is a possibility of addiction to cannabinoids in some people. However, it'd take a lot more pot than the average user smokes (two a day probably) to get you to the point where you start experiencing withdrawal symptoms and developing a tolerance, and over a very long time frame. Also note that I'm using BC bud as my benchmark here, which has a considerably higher THC level than most of the stuff you'll find in the US.