It's the sad truth that those two things ARE pretty much the be-all and end-all of life these days. The craziest thing of all is: they don't even make you happy in the long run.

I remember reading a quote from a billionare a while back, I can't remember who he was, but he said "I would give all my millions just for a happy family life."

The sad truth about money is the more you have the more you have to lose, and it almost always adds stress, not relieves it.

And as far as sex goes...well I just won't go there. It's just too sick how things are degrading.

Wraith

So i'm not totally crazy? *trips* But yes, my friends were saying that money can even buy happiness, love, and all this other stuff they show on the MasterCard commercials(There are somethings money can't buy...for everything else there's Mastercard, you know the commercials, lol). I wonder if they'll grow out of that way of thinking though. *wonders* Probably not. XD

Money provides opportunities, that's something to be acknowledged. However, having money that you have no use for - even as security for the future - no longer provides oportunities that you want. Therein lies the point at which, I think, money becomes overrated. After all, if you aren't going to use something to improve your quality of life, or that of others, then what's the point? And yet, extremely rich people still obsess over getting more. I don't know whether it gives them happiness or not, not being in their position, but it makes me wonder.

I generally find that it doesn't take much to be happy - or at least content. And I sometimes wonder if Buddhist really are onto something with the idea of removing desire being the way to remove suffering. If that's true, then all the hype over money and sex really is overrated...

Anyone who tells you that money can't buy happiness is seriously cracked. Having money and having a happy family aren't mutually exclusive, you know. Money itself doesn't buy happiness anyway. It merely buys things that bring happiness.

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but as much intercourse there is going around seems not doing it would be even more special

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LOL sorry no.
Humans are animals, and as animals, sex is required, and not just for reproduction. If your wife wasn't getting it from you, chances are she'd be getting it from someone else.

Whoever says money is overrated has never been poor. Personally the amount of arguing in my life would go way down if we weren't wound up about paying the bills every month on time.

Yes yes Astrid I know exactly what you mean. I watch my parents week by week worry about bills and checks bouncing and all of that stuff. And yes money is needed, but people wanting to be loaded driving Lamborghinis*, Porsches, etc around everywhere is a bit over the top. And the thing about money is the more you get usually the more you spend meaning you're always in some sort of predictament. Like when we use to live in an apartment building...we could've stayed there up til now and the bills would be no problem, but as my parents started earning more they wanted bigger things. Getting a new car, a house, etc. Different subject anyway. So Astrid I know where you are coming from just by wacthing my parents every week. As for the sex thing. Well since sex is a demonstartion of love she'd be better of marrying this other guy, since I can't "show" my love for her. Then again if this other guy is having sex with her, what would stop him from having it from other women and adding to the epidemic?

Money and Sex and the two most overrated things in society today.
Have you ever even had sex?

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XDXD! I was waiting for someone to ask. Being that I haven't I really don't have much to go on do I?

They are indeed "overrated". However both are things most people want in life.

And before you ask, Cyke. You may wanna think. Do you REALLY wanna know MY answer. o.o

~Rico

yea its sad rico. money is corrupt and sex is.....ok I guess as long as you wear a rubber. thats wut I always do. stray away from unwanted pregnancy and STD's but as for money it sucks that when your crazy rich even your friends may turn against you being jealous. Just take any kind of celebrity. Im mostly referring to a song from Biggie called "Mo Money Mo Problems" where he describes how his friends rob him and how he may have to resort to killing them one day if they "stick" him up or sumthin one day. but if it were me Id be like "@#%$ all you haters, Ive earned this success" yet I would still keep in touch with LOYAL friends and family but than you would have to worry about any possible conspiracies coming your way. Dangerous ones. Like death which just irks me thinkin about it and which is also what B.I.G. unawarely fell victim to. Yes it is sad tho nevertheless.....:><

Ignoring the last comment, Money and Sex are publicized almost exclusivly nowadays. However, Nowadays money can truely buy happiness, and sex...Well you wouldn't know. Youi have a point but there is a reason for it, -'03.

-SX

Ok now explain this to me. it really pisses me off:

even when I try and carry on a decent polite conversation, I have rude assholes like Kitsune that say things like that just to get me going!

Common sense tells me not to even comment, but I have to ask, what of mine pissed you off? I hope it isn't the last line, that's my sig.

I see nothing against the rules in his post. He probably didn't understand what the connection to the lyrics were you were trying to make.

And noone but you can "get you going".

~Rico

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However, Nowadays money can truely buy happiness, and sex...Well you wouldn't know.

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Like really who doesn't know about prostitution. >_> Anyway happiness can be bought now? Please enlighten me...I want this feeling of absolute and pure joy. How may I go about obtaining it?

Alright then. I wasn't implying that you wouldn't know anything about buying sex, I meant that you wouldn't know sex in the first place, alright? Hapiness? Now I don't condone the use, but certain 'shroom can make you all happy. Otherwise, get a nice house and a PS2 and buy all sorts of stuff. You'll be happy enough. Or donate money to charity, if you're that kind of happyness person.

Ok read my post and understand it. see it aint spam

I agree. All I want when I get oder, like college age is a skateboard and to live in my friend's basement. When I get a little bit older than that, I want a little house. I don't need flashy stuff. And according to The Beatles, money doesn't buy love. Money just buys all their CD's.

A 'little' house will cost you about 10 grand even is this ratrump town. To get that you need a job. To get a job you need education. o.o

~Rico

Sex is very enjoyable (at least I have fun). I think too many times people turn sex into a serious event full of mystique and wonder and in that sense it is overrated. However, if you just relax and realize that if you were an alien visiting earth and you saw a couple going at it you'd probably laugh your ass off. I mean seriously, think about sex without conotation and you realize God defintely had a sense of humor

As for money, it is neccesary but should not be the focus of anyone's life. I think everyone had their own certain something that makes them happy and collecting green slips of paper just doesn't sound like that enjoyable of a hobby. For me I like writing, creating things through metaphors. For me the art of creating something is more valuable than any amount of cash.

Of course I'm not opposed to living comfortably either

Gimme enough money to live and play my games and a cute gerbilboy and I'm as happy as I get. Moreso if I have users to smash like this... *looks around wildly before picking a marshmellow* Marshmellow! *whack* *whack* *whack* Aw come'on, crush. *whine*

~Rico

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Gimme enough money to live and play my games and a cute gerbilboy and I'm as happy as I get. Moreso if I have users to smash like this... *looks around wildly before picking a marshmellow* Marshmellow! *whack* *whack* *whack* Aw come'on, crush. *whine*

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Ahh yes video games. That there is happiness. Odd though, not sure if it's the actual game...it's more or less a psychological thing i'm sure. Then again it could be the game. *shrugs* I guess i'll never understand sex unless I go out and experience it.

What Rico just said had nothing to do with videogames. Trust me, the guy's even crazier than our friend over to the left.

Sex and money aren't problems at all, sex is natural and problems caused by it depends on the situation, say if you don't use protection for example. Money is also what can make a poor person that much closer to living easier.

The problem is a general lust for these two things, in the media wealth is often offered out in contests and throughout life it seems far too many people want to have sex with others rather than getting to know the person first. Those are the real problems, if someone lusts for money, they may rob someone, if someone lusts for sex, they may rape someone.

Video Games? That was off some weird comic Evalc showed me last night. o.o

~Rico

Okay, I must put my two cents in here.

First of all, sexual assault and rape are NOT about sex. These are violent acts of POWER and CONTROL. Sex is completely secondary.

Second, I must heartily disagree with the statement that "sex is overrated". Now, I don't mean this in an offensive or confrontational manner at all, but anyone who says so has either never had sex, or has never had sex with the right person.

Sex can be all about the lust, yes. It can be entirely physical, and in that case, it IS overrated. However, it can also be one of the most beautiful, moving experiences in life. Sex can be the deepest, most profound expression of love, and the sensation of oneness is incomparable. Despite what they say and despite what the media may portray, sex IS a big deal.

My boyfriend/husband to-be and I waited for a very long time before we made love. It was the first time for both of us, and it is a most cherished, wonderful memory for me and him.

And thus concludes my soapbox for tonight. I would continue, but I'm starting to fall asleep. Lol.

But Necro, what we're talking about is the persuit of Sex to the exclusion of all else. Yes it may be true that it is a very special moment to share etc, but look around at the media nowadays. The whole world is taking it out of that special, normal setting and making it the be-all and end-all of life, which it completely isn't.

I hear what you say about it being "the deepest, most profound expression of love, and the sensation of oneness is incomparable", but that is just between two people. The world's media is now blowing it up out of that, and indeed all, proportions.

Same with money; apparently if you don't have the latest EVERYTHING then there's something wrong with you and you aren't to be respected and treated as Human.

It's natural Human nature to want to be the best at everything and to have everything, but Human morallity should force us to tone down this desire so we can get along with one another instead of snapping at each other's throats. But the way sex and money is overrated in the media nowadays pretty soon we'll have lost all sence of morals!

Looks on the net. Yikes Porn. Goes to a video store. Zoinks an entire aisle dedicated to pornos. Goes to hang with his friends. Zenkies all they wanna do is get some girl drunk and do whatever. So maybe overrated was the wrong word/phrase. Sex has been badly misconcepted by quite a few people out there. As for money, what Robobotnik said it is one step closer to an easier life for the poor, yet what is it for the already rich or wealthy. Even more wealth? So maybe saying money is overrated was wrong too...money is unfair to those who don't have it. And Necro i'm glad you and you're husband waited,not many people I know can do that....now.

Whatever just happened to sex being a fun, pleasurable thing to do with someone you trust? I don't get it being all about romance and inevitable marriage.

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Well take out the trust part and that's basically it, Astrid.

Whatever just happened to sex being a fun, pleasurable thing to do with someone you trust? I don't get it being all about romance and inevitable marriage.

People who have casual sex with their friends need to die. :[

Anyway... no, I don't believe money is overrated. The whole world revolves around money anymore, and it's needed if you want to live a decent life, obviously.

Sex? Yes. Overrated. And casual sex is one of the banes of my existance. Sure, people enjoy it. But... well, it's more a matter of morals, really. And I'm too lazy to explain mine other than I hate casual sex and think it should stay within the confines of a romantic relationship.

You'd rather they have lots of babies for you pay tax dollars to?

~Rico

Seriously. I hate casual sex and I generally dislike the people that have it.

I have nothing against premarital sex (by the way, he's not my husband YET because we don't want to get married until we're out of college), as long as it's with someone you love. I'm just saying that when you're with the right person and you're ready, you will totally understand what I mean.

I understand "totally". You find someone that makes you feel all ooshy gooshy and then divorce them with they leave the toiletseat up/down.

~Rico

Lmao!

I spent this last year living with a cousin of mine. Her boyfriend was over almost constantly and he wouldn't even lift he seat up, he'd just pee all over it and then not clean it up. So after a year of contending with that, I feel like having to put a seat down after someone is hardly anything to fuss about.

Her boyfriend was over almost constantly and he wouldn't even lift he seat up, he'd just pee all over it and then not clean it up.

That's disgusting. 😀

XD! Well Necro I hope you and your future husband share a great lifetime together. Thats what I want...tofind someone and know they're the one. Ahh...

Dude. People should not be having sex before marriage, period. It is not only immoral, but illogical as well. And the (stupid) free distribution of condoms in such places as high schools only encourages premarital sex, which brings worlds of complications to just about everything.

As for the money part, I can't really say. I have a nice job and a nice family life.

I'll come back to this topic later, because it's after one in the morning, and every time I blink, I see a katamari. I need sleep.

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Then why was premarital sex so common prior to the invention of condoms? Remember, there's a difference between something being talked about more than actually existing more. Also, complications (other than emotional ones) have actually gone down due to condom use, not increased.

I also believe that you should wait until you've found the right person and/or after marriage before you start having sex. I think that the fact that you waited until you were married (with hopefully the person that you will be with for the rest of your life) to have sex with just that one person is one of the greatest things you could do. (Besides, it makes things a whole lot simpler. )
As far as money is concerned, I tend to think that if you have between enough money to get by and not so much money that you're paranoid about it, then you're doing a good job. Unless you really want that solid platinum lamborginie. (Dang I can't spell...)

I whole heartedly agree with you, Hyper.
When I told my friends I won't be sleeping with anyone till I'm married they acted as if I was an alien.
And in some ways money can be overrated.
JRapid kinda made a point, too. Sometimes, when you're rich people start using you for your money.

Dude. People should not be having sex before marriage, period.
That is entirely none of your business.

It is not only immoral, but illogical as well.
Whether it's immoral is the individual person's choice. How it is "illogical" is beyond me.

And the (stupid) free distribution of condoms in such places as high schools only encourages premarital sex, which brings worlds of complications to just about everything.
Better to have safe premarital sex, because even if you were right (which you're not), it's not like premarital sex didn't exist before. At least when you're wearing rubber, those "worlds of complication" are unlikely to appear.

When I say worlds of complication, I mean social and emotional complications. And how could premarital sex being illogical be beyond you? It's incredibly illogical. Why would you want to throw away your virginity to various boyfriends or girlfriends that you won't marry? Sex is the ultimate expression of love, and should be reserved for a married couple. Having sex with every person that catches your eye is just awful.

What's so awful about two people making each other happy? Why should everyone see sex the way you do?

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When I say worlds of complication, I mean social and emotional complications. And how could premarital sex being illogical be beyond you? It's incredibly illogical. Why would you want to throw away your virginity to various boyfriends or girlfriends that you won't marry? Sex is the ultimate expression of love, and should be reserved for a married couple. Having sex with every person that catches your eye is just awful.

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To start, there aren't many social complications now. While certain people may look down on single parents that never married, it's so common place that it's not a social stigma anymore. Whether or not there are emotional complications will depend on the individual and that is something that can't be predicted too much. Some people don't care, some people don't see sex an ultimate expression of love, etc.

As for something being logical or illogical, it has to deal with what is considered "normal" or "okay" to you. In a recently discussed (though probably lost topic), in discussing whether or not women not being allowed to go topless while men are is or isn't discrimination, many here would claim it isn't because we're trained in most Western societies that the breasts are supposed to be covered and considered private parts. Other socieites in this world, there's nothing special about women's breasts and women go topless just like men do. These places only consider the parts of the body that actually partake in sex to be private parts. Even in Western societies, things take on different meanings. I'm pretty sure it was Sam who once said something to the effect of that in the U.S. sex = bad but violence = good while the U.K. was more along the lines of sex = good but violence = bad. It's not an exact quote and it was to help people sort out some of the differences in expectations between U.S. culture and U.K. culture.

So, when it comes down to what is "illogical" or "logical" when discussing social norms, don't expect others to necessarily agree.

What's so awful about two people making each other happy?

So that makes hookers good?

Hookers are happy?

Happy hookers are good.

It all makes sense now. Thank you.