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(@rico-underwood)
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Ever here of learning to use this type of board structure.

Please refer to my post.

 
(@rico-underwood)
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[ego]Admin now actually.[/ego]

Thanks though, THS. :D

~Rico

 
(@browncowkapow)
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I actually found the satire quite funny. And sorry for the remark Rico, I was just being (a tad too) cheeky.

Just a question to everyone though: who actually went out and denounced gays as evil and/or called for the tarring and feathering of Hilary?

 
(@rico-underwood)
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If you see the original post as something other than a satire than you are taking offense at it. As such something on the post most apply to you. I simply used the points I saw brought up as examples. Why does this bother you.

Please refer to my post.

 
(@browncowkapow)
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I just don't recall anyone in this thread calling homosexuals and Hilary Clinton evil.

And of course I understood the thread to be satire. I especially liked the one about UN. It truly hit the mark.

 
(@fexus)
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I always thought republicans were more toward strengthening the government and international market while democrats wanted to do more environmental stimulation and make more jobs. of course... in republican acts, more jobs are usually made, and in democratic acts the government is more likely to GIVE THE MILITARY A BREAK. god... i hate working 12 hours every day to fix a jet that isnt even fighting in a war. IT'S MADNESS.

 
(@veckums)
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MarauderOSU


I think, as we've seen, this is more a list of what you must believe if you always agree with Bush and certain conservative media hosts, not necessarily every republican. There are quite a few people like that, but many that aren't. However, even if that republican voter doesn't believe these things, they're voting for a party that does IMO.

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* The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

Thank you, Mr. Kerry.


Source? Never take senator voting records without a grain of salt, because bills are usually loaded with crap so that those who vote against them can be accused of such things.

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Because the UN won't get off of its corrupt behind to enforce its own resolutions.


You missed the point. If a person doesn't like the UN, why should they care about its resolutions?

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If it's a certain trimester, yes. But if it's early (not saying how early), a more apt comparison would be, well think of the things people do to eggs and sperm! The line is, of course, subjective.

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Third parties are the best solution to the stale status of political parties in the US.


I want the Greens and Libertarians to replace the current parties. But that would only happen with a changed voting system that allows voters to rank their choices. The main parties don't want that to happen, but increasing numbers of liberals are supporting it. Such a system would do wonders against many of the political annoyances going on now. Corrupt politicians get a free pass because many see them as the lesser of two evils. Lesser of two evils could no longer be used as a campaign strategy, though lesser of 4 evils might be. :cuckoo

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In other news: Funny. Is there a Democrat one too?


Let's ask Google!

Hmm, apparently there's another version of this republican list, and numerous democrat list responses. However, most of the responses are ridiculous. At least the repulican list has some things that SOME people believe.

http://www.ariannaonline.com/showthread.php?t=45644

This one has some credibility until that order 9066 business. How many people, especially liberals, actually agree with that? I wonder if that was the inspiration for the name of order 66 in Star Wars.

Of course none of this applies to me. It merely proves the same thing the other list does. I'm better than other people.

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MarauderOSU said:

Thos who do not share my opinions are necessarily stupid, insane, evil, or any combintation of the three.


He stereotyped a group (as you later said) by representing it with some of the opinions of some of its most ridiculous members. You stated those labels. Would those labels apply to a person who actually does believe everything he said? I'm sure you'd say no, but I'm saying this because I take issue with this "don't bash anyone" philosophy.

Where were the people being offended at those of us who bashed Prussian Blue?

The message I receive from many calls for tolerance is that it's bad to bash people's opinions... if those opinions are socially acceptable. Now if the person can honestly say that they tolerate EVERY opinion, that's different, but otherwise, it's drawing a subjective line and making a judgement of what opinions are ok to bash and what aren't.

I do respect your very justified wish for an apology about prejudiced statements directed at those you love, however.

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Ultra, you've just confirmed one thing: You are a bigot.


You've repeatedly been asked to explain reasons, and only flamed and posted one-liners. The only things I can see in what he said that could be called bigotry are referring to homosexuality as mental illness (which is a bad label to use on just about anything other than, say, a railroad spike in the head) and saying to close the borders, and I wouldn't necessarily say either of those are bigotry.

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Rico


I don't think this was intended as a non-discussion joke. And even if it is, in MFC topics are intended to expand.


P.S.

Oh and LOL @ republican list because I'm a bigot.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I wish people read. *MOVES*

 
(@sonicv2)
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And find something to back up the "WHEN A REPULICAN IS PRES THE POOR GET POORER AND THE RICH GET EVEN RICHER" crap.


BAM!

BAM!

BAM!

BAM! (Even though there are problems if you increase the min. wage)

Barbara Bush once said this about the poor Katrina victims "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this this is working very well for them."

Boy, and don't even get me started in Civil War to Great Depression era.

Now I know there are some kind hearted right-winged people out there who want to help the poor. Why don't they enter politics?

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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This topic is not a satire. Satire is ridicule of views, not of people. The list itself is satire. The topic is a lampoon.

Essentially, this list jokes "all republicans believe these things," and then goes on to list ridiculous beliefs that many republicans do not agree with. Most of these are quite funny in an ironic way, because they point out the logical fallacies in what SOME republicans believe. The list concludes by (jokinly, I assume) encouraging people to stamp out republican views.

The list is funny because it's ridiculing views.

The joking implications that these views are common to all republicans or that being/voting republican is reprehensible which frame the list are not funny. The topic is offensive because it's ridiculing people. There's a difference.

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What Vec said


I have nothing wrong with bashing people's opinions. Some opinions are idiotic. Although I'd prefer a criticism to a bash, some opinions are so obviously fallacious that a bash is in order. But it's possible to disagree with a person, yest still respect that person. This is especially important when, instead of a "person," you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of people you've never met. This topic fails at that.

 
(@cipher_strelok98)
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Barbara Bush once said this about the poor Katrina victims "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this this is working very well for them."


Link to that quote. And then

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Boy, and don't even get me started in Civil War to Great Depression era.


You know what teh great Deoression was caused by right? The government tryed there best, and as you can see things eventually got back on track. And what does the Civil War half to do with things?

And link me to soem nuetral sites. All those were clearly Liberal. Link to something nuetral and maybe I'll be a bit more able to belive you.

 
(@spiritsenshi)
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MarauderOSU
Since this is now in the marble garden, I can now say that you must be the ignorant person I've had the displeasure of talking to.
I should think that the democratic party (or otherwise) are ashamed to have someone as blind as you in their party.
Not everyone is the same, and at least I don't bash the opposite party, I try to understand them.
I, personally, agree with Ultra Sonic 007.

 
(@sonicv2)
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Barbara Bush opening her big mouth

As for the Civil War, I meant to say Post Civil War to the Great Depression. I know how the Depression started but I'm more upset that President Herbert Hoover didn't want to do anything about it. "Prosperity is just around the corner" my ass.

 
(@cipher_strelok98)
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Even then Barbara Bushs opinion isn't relavent. She is the first-lady yes, but she has nothing to do with how its run per se. And yes it was stupid what she said, but people sometiems say dumb things. And prosperity was right around the corner. Look where we are now.

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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As for the Civil War, I meant to say Post Civil War to the Great Depression. I know how the Depression started but I'm more upset that President Herbert Hoover didn't want to do anything about it. "Prosperity is just around the corner" my ass.


I'm pretty sure that's a little unfair on Hoover. He may not have had quite the imagination to try the drastic measures needed to combat the Depression, but he did put some policies into action.
I've always felt history has been rather unfair to the guy. He was simply elected at the wrong time.

(Somewhat off-topic post on the grounds that I have no desire to enter into this mess of flames, regardless of my personal beliefs)

 
(@Anonymous)
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You people make me wonder why none of you can ever take a joke.

Seriously guys, you really don't need to MG everything. Lighten the f**k up. You'll live longer.

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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After debating with myself over it, you can read Larry Bartels' research (PDF file) concerning whether Democratic or Republican presidents tend to be "better" for you in terms of income. Do a search if you want people's opinions on it (as it is from 2004), but I felt it best to provide the "original" source. Make of it as you will.

 
(@rico-underwood)
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Since this is now in the marble garden, I can now say that you must be the ignorant person I've had the displeasure of talking to.


It was not MEANT for MG.

The placement in marble garden STILL does not give you license to hurl insults. I'm not issuing a warning, but if I see that disrespectful gradeschool attitude again I will not only issue a warning but the one I DIDN'T issue here will be noted as well. Simply put, leave it alone and you're fine, keep it up and you're one warning for a temp.

You can debate but I'm sick of the name calling. People doing this crap is why we are losing good posters.

~Rico

 
(@thecycle)
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Of course, the most obvious factor were the particularly deadly Gulf hurricanes of previous years (especially last year), which brought down a lot of refineries. And even then, most of the refineries, until recently, were refining only gasoline instead of diesel.
Canada's gas comes from Canada. Europe's gas mostly comes from the Middle East, not Canada. So, no.

And I was insulted, but not personally insulted, because as I've said before, I'm definitely not a Republican. Just one of those increasingly rare people who believes that it's wrong to stereotype people as stupid/insane/evil just because they have a different political philosophy from you.
I think at this point, supporters of a party that just unanimously tore up Habeas Corpus are perfectly fair game. No reasonable person today could possibly call themselves a Republican to an objective onlooker without either justifying it by saying they subscribe to the political philosophy that stopped being Republican policy back in the 80s when Reagan took power, or simply hiding their face in shame.

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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Personally, I don't see how any reasonable person could call themself a republican either. I also don't see how any reasonable person could call themself a democrat.

But I know at least a couple reasonable people who proudly support each side. Gee, ain't life funny?

 
(@johnny-chopsocky)
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Ooh! Ooh! I have a couple new ones!

- If you get caught in a lie, it's not your fault for lying. It's clearly the fault of the person who caught you because they're trying to ruin the country!

- It's perfectly okay to be a known pederast and running the agencies for Missing and Exploited Children. It's also not ironic in the least if you publicly take a 'We must stop online predators' stance while propositioning underage boy over emails and instant message.

 
(@rico-underwood)
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*giggles*

 
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