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Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith in cinemas now

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(@dirk-amoeba)
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I think only Threepio had his memory wiped. They said to wipe the protocol droid's memory. Remember: in the original trilogy, Artoo remembered Obi-Wan but Threepio did not. Oddly, Obi-Wan claimed not to remember either of them.
 
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I've never watched a single Star Wars film in my life. I just thought it would be pointless and dumb.
But as I see, it has earned a lot of fans. I should say that I regret not watching them, but-
I CAN'T!!!!
The only thing I know about the films is that Samuel L Jackson is there, along-side a green, goblin-like thingy, and there's a black-clad baddie in it with a weird voice.
I'm slightly considering watching the films.
You know what they say: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. If you can't join 'em- blackmail 'em.
Let's hope it doesn't reach the last resort.;)
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If I were you, I'd start by renting the Original Trilogy (episodes IV, V, and VI) A New Hope (usually just called "Star Wars"), The Empire Strikes Back, and The Return of the Jedi.

Don't bother with Episode I, The Phantom Menace at this point unless you really want to. Episode II, Attack of the Clones, is okay but not great. This film, Reveng of the Sith, is considered by most to be excellent.

I'd say either start with the original ANH or this one.

 
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Yes bother with Episode 1 because it was way better than Episode 2...which only gets exciting at the end...and I thought the scenes with Anakin in the Jedi Temple were most disturbing...

 
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Yes bother with Episode 1 because it was way better than Episode 2...
You're... you're joking, right?

 
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Dude, just let him like it if he wants.

 
(@tornadot)
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JarJar and Anakin's lucky shot aside, I really liked Episode 1...I liked the character Qui Gon and Obi Wan was hilarious as a kid who stuck to the rules (Plus he looked cooler)...Podracing was a pretty cool part of the movie too and the final lightsaber battle was great!

I swear in Episode 3, Padme lost all of her personality and her lines usually consisted of, "Oh Annie!"

 
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She's pregnant and everything's going crazy around her.

You think her hormones are going to let her think? It's cry city, population Padme. :b

 
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anyone noticed how Padme's stomach shifted in sizes throughout the movie?

first you could notice, second it's huge,third it gets smaller, it gets a little bigger, and by the time she gets to mustafar its a little smaller than by the time she's giving birth it's freaking huge.

just something that bothered me.

 
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Mean, I know, but you do NOT do that crap, not with something so huge, not with something so historic, so special


Err, is Star Wars THAT great? (No offence intended)

 
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Am I the only one who thought that glass statue on Palpatine's desk after Windu was teh dead looked a LOT like Purple Tentacle?...

Other than that, excellent. Now I can't feel the left of my body. Bleh.

 
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Indeed it is in theaters all across the galaxy. Me and a buttload of friends plan on going next weekend. This movie looks so flippin sweet. Everytime I see the commercial I like do back flips. Wonder what Yoda does in this one. XD! I remember on Episode II everyone flipped when Yoda kicked butt. And I hear my girl gets pregnant in the film. Curse whoever did that to my women. :^^; I bet Natlaie is an absolute doll ni this movie. I saw her crying on the commercial and I started crying. ;) Can't wait to next weekend.

 
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I swear in Episode 3, Padme lost all of her personality
As if she had a personality to begin with. Natalie Portman's emotional range is wider only than that of Keanu Reeves.

 
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As if she had a personality to begin with. Natalie Portman's emotional range is wider only than that of Keanu Reeves.


Leon: The Professional. Heat.

I win, you lose.

 
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Oh no you didn't Cyke. Talking about my woman like that. *puts on boxing gloves* Let's go. *bell rings* "Round 1"

 
(@tornadot)
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*awkward silence*

She did have a personality as ruler of Naboo and as the fiery senator but after getting with Annie, she lost all her good qualities...which gives me more reasons to hate his hide...

I was disappointed how Obi Wan beat him.

 
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Is it just me or does Lucas have an affinity for chopping people's hands off? I swear, the only one where that DOESN'T happen is Episode I. Then again, I could be wrong...

 
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I enjoyed the movie, but I had alot of problems with it.

So spoiler me up baby:

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Ok. Let's start with Clone Wars, there were 2 things in there that bugged me, in relation to the movie.

1. Qui-Gon showing Anakin into the tree. When the hell could that have happened? Qui-Gon died before Anakin was even allowed to be a padawan.

2. Grievous mows down six jedi simultaneously with 2 arms, yet doesn't last 2 minutes against Ben with 4, also his throat crushed by Mace will come up in the main WTF'athon!

Ok, let's go:

1. "You are blinded by love" I can swear Anakin is breaking the 4th wall there :p

2. Anakin joins the darkside for GOOD reasons. I am VERY opposed to this, it doesn't at all bridge how he goes from Anakin to Vader, it just gives him an excuse and then lets "teh evil dark side" do the rest. Hell, Palpatine didn't even TEACH him anything and he mowed down "younglings" mercilessly. Very very unsatisfying.

3. Younglings?! What kind of a crap quasi space-age name for kids is that?!

4. Padme committing suicide (via "giving up on life") leaving her children orphans. What a nice woman she is.

5. Grievous being to Star Wars, as Niobi and Ghost were to Matrix. A simple "BUY SPIN-OFFS!" demand, how else would we understand who he is or why he's hacking and coughing.

6. Grievous hacking and coughing, yet being able to jump out into space without hesitation. Make up your damn mind Lucas, lungs or not?!

7. "I have the high ground. Don't try it!" ...hello? You have telekensis and lightning bolts, you twit. USE THEM!

8. Crap character continuity. In Clone Wars, Mace is the one to demand that Anakin is promoted to Jedi (come on, "Why do we hold back the Chosen One?!" is used in every Clone Wars trailer), and yet he treats him with nothing but suspicion and dislike throughout the movie.

and finally...

9. NOOOOOOOO!!!

 
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Never tell me you like my Rico character again. Because several reasons you hate Anakin are paralleled in him.

For reference see

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(2) to come in Evalcs via Kenji kicking ass evil style

(2) MA, Endangered, AND Spark via some of the things you're hearing from Rico right now about why he went/(is going) all black and evil.

(4) Sparks, Kevin not even fighting back and basically commiting suicide.

(7) Most anything. Rico never seems to use his own "telekinesis and lighting bolts" unless he can't do it any other way.

(8) Well you don't see it directly but you can see where Kenji appears before Rico less and less in the RP's. Considering the fact that the wolf trained him you'd think he'd be trying to SAVE him, not ignore him.

(9)No argument, I didn't like that part either. :p

Seems friggin Lucas ripped me off. 🙁

~Rico

 
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*Blink* My problem was the piss poor writing/editting, not the characters... well, except Padm.

*Pokes Rico* So you, Master Warden, still kick butt. Even if you're prone to as much angst as your little padawan.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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*adds Craig to the list of people who must pay for disliking Natalie's acting* Maybe I should see the movie...before I go off making alist and stuff, she might actually be a bad actress.

Naw.

*puts checkmark next to Craig's name*

 
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All credit to Ms. Portman, she did the best with the script she was given.

You imagine telling George Lucas that a line sucks. His imaculate vision allows for no flexibility!

 
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Wait... which padawan? Bushy's one of about 3 or 4. :p

~Rico

 
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*Growls* I shall slay those who dare steal my role! *Draws sword and dives in, to "Duel of the Fates"

 
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First, you must understand, anything that's not in the movies in considered "Expanded Universe" and ultimately does NOT have to be seen in order to understand the movie. All Star Wars movies did that. When you get to another movie, there is a sense of "wtf when did that happen", and that's why there's the little summary of what happened while we were away at the beginning of the movie.

So, while it was cool that Macey cracked him in the throat before Grievous boarded, the people watching the movie DON'T have to know why he's hacking and wheezing. For all we know, he could just be unstable from the getgo.

Anyway, onward to spoiler city.

SPOIL ME GOOD, CAP'N!

First, let me answer your Clone Wars question about Grievous and the handful of Jedi. I believe there were... one or two Padawan in that fight. And we all know, besides Yoda, and Mace, Obi-Wan is the next guy with the most experience out of the Council. Put two and two together... yeah, they're not as skilled as he is.

1. "You are blinded by love" - Remember Padme said that. If you like to not pay attention, this scene was equivalent of women throwing a hissy fit when they're pregnant. "I'M FAT! WAHHHHHH!" Except it's Padme, and her character is written to be more, what's the word, professional? When really I want to say emotionless, but there you go.

2. ... what the hell's up with that point? His joining the dark side proves that he's just a misguided bastard. It also proves that the Jedi's code is a little outdated, for the fact that everything they can't do is almost immoral of stripping a living being of said thoughts and emotions. Yoda said it himself, and I loosely quote "Careful we must be in these troubled times" in response to spying on Palpatine in case he's just trying to go crazy with power.

What do the Sith like the most? Power. If they overthrow the chancellor, are they no better than the Sith? See, the whole thing on how Anakin goes teh evil is a great way to show that both sides of the force are way unbalanced. Unfortunately, it's the only way, to bring forth balance to the force, by sacrificing his way of being and allowing Luke to grow into a Jedi. Then, Anakin's selflessness at the end of ROTJ takes over to save Luke's life. Thus proving Padme's last words: "There's still good in him".

3. BUT THEY WERE SO CUUUUTE! I agree, younglings is a little..... fruity. But, just about every form of academic place has a special word for their little ones. So, there you go. And DAMMIT I hated that. They used the CUTEST LITTLE FREAKIN' KID for that scene with Anakin. Oh man it made the whole audience go "AWWWE, NOOOO!".

4. Nobody really knows why she died. She was stable, scientifically. She was almost choked to death. Maybe weakness combined with all the strength needed to push them babies out took her life. All the drama, maybe she just couldn't handle it at the moment. Maybe she thought she was just going to pass away, or take a nap? The droid just said "Scientifically, she is in perfect condition", yet she is slipping away. It's like she's lost the will to live. *shrug*

5. lol. Wow, just because someone decided to do the closest tie in to a Star Wars movie you throw this out. Okay, here's this, then: Where'd Darth Maul come from? Where the hell'd Dooku show up from? Han Solo? What's Chewbacca's background in Kashyyk(sp)? What happened in between Episode 1 and 2 with Anakin and Obi-Wan's training? How did Palpatine get to be Chancellor?... so, do all these questions have to be answered with a spin off for the movie to make sense? Quit looking for things to not like the movie.

6. Look at him! He's freakin' 98% mechanical! Did it ever occur to you that he might have some breathing apparatus that does it for him? Depending on Clone Wars, we know he's coughing because Mace hit him HARD in the chest. If you want to use this for your answer, we then notice in the movie when Obi-Wan opens his chest plate, TA'DA, organs! There's obviously some sort of living thing still there. We saw a heart and lungs in that chest plate, tied electronically to everything else, and his head. Case closed.

7. We don't know that Anakin's learned the lightning technique. HE JUST became a sith! The only thing he knows what to do now is just the normal Jedi training. Notice the fight, Obi-Wan trained him so well that they were both practically doing the same thing during the battle. They both saw the openning for Force Push, and they both got caught in it. Now, let's put you on a tiny platform in a lava river. Would you rather try to make it to land? Or try force push or any sort of force power with the consequence of being pushed back STRAIGHT into the lava. YOU DO remember what happened when they both got caught in their push, right?

8. Again, the whole Clone Wars thing. Don't rely on it. But anyway, with all the recent callings for Anakin to his room over and over again, while there's already growing suspicion ON the Chancellor, I'd grow weary myself.

9. Let me guess. "OH LAME HE LOOKS LIKE FRANKENSTEIN!" Right? Damn it, he just rose with BIONICAL LIMBS. He's got to get used to them right? How would YOU walk if you had some random robotic legs out of nowhere? And the "NO", while cheesy, was still called for. To him, he's lost everything, and he now blames the Jedi for the death of the one he loved.

There.

 
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... you just put into words basically everything I wanted to say. Nevertheless, I'll still mention a few things myself...

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1. Totally agree with everything J said about this.
2. First of all... I strongly disagree with your viewpoint regarding Anakin's turn to the dark side, Craig. My opinion of it is basically the exact opposite of yours. I am VERY supportive of Anakin joining the dark side for GOOD reasons. There are many reasons why I think this... one of these is that I HUGELY prefer having Anakin's turn be the result of a misguided act of love rather than a lust for power... because the latter, IMO, is BORING, CLICHE and PREDICTABLE. It's been done before at least a million times. An important reason why I would not like Anakin's turn if it was for bad motives would be because it would detract from the tragedy that was Anakin's life. Simple as that. Having Anakin turn to the dark side to try and save Padme encourages us to SYMPATHISE with him, NOT hate him passionately. Also, it justifies Padme's final words "there is still good in him" as we see in Return Of The Jedi when Vader redeems himself by saving his son Luke from the Emperor. I love the facet of Anakin's character that makes him so beautifully tragic, and I'm glad he didn't just become a typically power-hungry villain when he transformed into Darth Vader.
4. Give her a freakin' break. Her husband/father of her children became seduced to join the dark side and became a Sith lord, she got force-choked by him on Mustafar and he got owned and horrifically burnt when he duelled against Obi Wan. If I was in her position, I don't think I'd be all too happy either. Also, I don't think we KNOW if she did actually commit 'suicide' by 'giving up on life'. She never actually said that, and it was only hinted at by the medical droid.
5. The planet is spelt 'Kashyyyk', Jin. 😉
6. General Grievous' coughing is explained in an Expanded Universe story in which Mace force-crushes his lungs or something like that if I remember correctly. Also, George Lucas HIMSELF claimed that Grievous' armour was the precursor for Vader's armour, and if you look closely enough it's not hard to notice a few similarities. The most obvious I'd say would be their breathing apparatuses. By the way, he ISN'T the result of a simple "buy spin-offs" demand thing. He actually had a LOT of significance to the movie and to the construction of Darth Vader's armour, as I've already mentioned. No offence dude, but KNOW your Star Wars sh*t before you make unfounded calls like that.
7. His knowledge of the dark side of the Force wasn't advanced enough for him to use Sith lightning at that particular time, so he just took a jump off the platform and had the rest of his limbs sliced off in one lightsabre stroke by Obi Wan.
8. Indeed, don't rely on the Clone Wars animated series.
9. Yes, the scene does reference the creation of Frankenstein's monster, but I think it was pulled off superbly. I can forgive the corny 'Noooooo!' line from Vader, simply because, like Jin said, it was COMPLETELY appropriate. He just lost everyone and everything he loved AND he had practically become a walking machine. I'd react exactly the same as Vader if I was him, unsurprisingly enough. The only thing he had left to live for was serving the Empire.

I can't help but agree about the whole Expanded Universe thing as well. For example, people might think that Episode III contains some continuity gaps such as how Leia managed to remember her mother in Episode VI if she died right after childbirth... BUT it is explained in Expanded Universe that she knew about her mother from visions... I'm not entirely sure if they were provided by the Force though. I'll have to catch up on some Star Wars research (one of my favourite kinds of research :D). But... yeah... a lot of loose ends are tied up in EU, including MANY of the things you DON'T see in the movies PLUS the events in-between the movies. Anyway, that's about everything I wanted to mention. =)

 
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For example, people might think that Episode III contains some continuity gaps such as how Leia managed to remember her mother in Episode VI if she died right after childbirth...


Simple, that line was cut from the remakes of Ep VI.

Lucas: "It's BETTER!"

 
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Simple, that line was cut from the remakes of Ep VI.


Wow? REALLY? Dammit, Lucas.

This is why I refuse to watch the remakes. >.>

*hugs his trilogy VHS box set*

 
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So in the new boxset they edited out parts. Thats messed up.

 
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For example, people might think that Episode III contains some continuity gaps such as how Leia managed to remember her mother in Episode VI if she died right after childbirth...

Lucas didn't need to cut that. It's perfectly plausible that such a force-sensitive person as Leia could have remembered things that happened shortly before her birth. The Expanded Universe suggests similar things about Leia's twin children.

 
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Wow? REALLY?


According to the folks over at the IMDb. I need to watch my copy to be sure, though, and I'm not sure I remember where that scene WAS.

 
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I just decided to look at the scene in question, and the lines about her seeing images [and recalling feelings] is still there. Whoever said the lines were cut is spewing crap...

 
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Yeah, I checked. That scene is quite present.

EDIT: Incidentally, IMDB says no such thing on their "Alternate Versions" page and the line occurs just seconds into scene 27 if you are looking for it.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Uhh...wow. I have seen it finally and good goodness.

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Who knew Count Dooku would go down so easily? lol And General Grievous* was a hell of a cool nememis. Who knew the Chancellor was Dark Sidious...that was a nice twist. And Padme *passes out* Sorry but Leia couldn't be her daughter. Padme's looks must've missed a generation ;). Isn't Obi Wan in the later movies IV and so forth? As for Qui-Jon(or whatever his name is) he's immortal. Another dimension...seriously? Is this even present in the latter movies? You know what i'll find out myself...I gotta get that trilogy set of IV-VI. Just wow.

Oh and who knew President Bush was in this movie. =P

 
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Who knew the Chancellor was Dark Sidious...

Actually, a better question would be, who didn't know that?

 
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*raises hand* I mean I guess I probably would'e figured it out..eventually. Stop making fun of me. *scurries off*

*trips*

 
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yeah, like i said.
i knew that since you first see him in ep.1

 
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Mock me. Mock me. I knew something wasn't right with him...but I bet after that "transformation" he undertook if someone saw him as

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The Chancellor

then left and missed the

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fight w/Windu

then came back near the end of the movie and saw Dark Sidious...no one would've put those two together. Come on cut me some slack...I'm not very much into Star Wars, even though I wish I was.

 
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*cough* DARTH *cough*

 
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I just got back from seeing it, and I LOVED it.

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R2 was hilarious. I especially like the scene where he was hiding from the droids in the hanger. Obi Wan was trying to talk to him over the communicator and he tried to hide it to muffle his voice. I also like the bit where he chuckled about C-3PO's memory getting wiped.

I thought Anakin's progression to the Dark side was well executed. He'd been plagued by these dreams about Padme dying giving birth and was willing to do whatever it took to save her.

It all has a cruel sense of irony though. He joined the Dark side in order to save Padme, only to have her die of a broken heart. Truly, it was the darkest of all the movies.

I will say this though. I am glad I know what happens afterwards. Otherwise, that've been an awful way to end the movie.

 
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Why do the old-fashioned Spoiler method when you've got this? 😛

 
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Why do the old-fashioned Spoiler method when you've got this? 😛


:nn; I couldn't get the spoiler tag to work.

 
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XD! It's ok Kayla I couldn't get it to work awhile ago either.

 
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There's a spoiler tag? I usually HTML it all myself. o.o

 
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Star Wars is out on DVD now, promising special features detailing the making of this movie, and 6 deleted scenes, including the long awaited "Yoda goes to Degobah" scene. I WANT

 
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