C'mon, Jin, if they don't like it, this is the time and place to vocalize that complaint, what little good it'll do them in the end. You know, give them some kind of vehicle to express themselves in. Better than leaving it to bubble up inside and explode in a fit of not-scrolling-downness and much Linkin Park, a scene which wouldn't be very pretty in any sense of the imagination.
Well, I like the Shadow theme, but I don't like the topic tree thing although it doesn't bother me too much. One problem with tree layout is that it takes longer for this forum to load for me even though I now have lite DSL(of course I haven't defragmented my computer in awhile), and then another thing is I can't tell who the last person who posted was without going into the topic or going down the listings and looking at the times. But, like I said I'm not bothered that much by it, and hey, this was how MFC was when I first joined, sooo.... I do have one more thing to say: someone suggested you make an option for us do be able to change the format for our individual accounts; is that possible?
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someone suggested you make an option for us do be able to change the format for our individual accounts; is that possible?
You're referring to the Eliteboard. I seriously doubt EzBoard would do that, nor do we have the ability to make them. I've no clue how far along Vec is with putting that into the Eliteboard though.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up, Red!
pwnfaced. 
~Rico
see and now i just thought rico had doubleposted when he was replying to two seperate messages
that confused me
That's another problem with this kind of lay out. it looks like people double posted. I don't like this layout either. It's too confusing and I end up pressing the wrong reply or screwing up what I'm replying to. So instead of using that simple little reply butten at the buttom I have to click that little reply in the corner which is NOT what I'm USED to and I don't even THINK of that so I click the OTHER reply button instead without even THINKING because it's mechanically programed into my brain that way. So I personally dispise this confusing "tree" layout and prefer the other one, I'm with the people that don't like it. 
Oh and Red, POWER TO THE PEOPLE MAN!!!!! 
see and now i just thought rico had doubleposted when he was replying to two seperate messages
that confused me
It's JUST the same if you used the table format! If you click the WHOLE TOPIC, you see all the replies in a row. Who's replying to who? WHO KNOWS IF THEY DON'T QUOTE! GASP! Just as confusing as TABLE!
Objection over ruled.
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It's JUST the same if you used the table format! If you click the WHOLE TOPIC, you see all the replies in a row. Who's replying to who? WHO KNOWS IF THEY DON'T QUOTE! GASP! Just as confusing as TABLE!
I don't think you ever explicitly said what you're implying. I mean, I GOT it, but you never actually said it. Not a very strong argument, anyway.
And I still prefer table profusely.
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It's too confusing and I end up pressing the wrong reply or screwing up what I'm replying to. So instead of using that simple little reply butten at the buttom I have to click that little reply in the corner which is NOT what I'm USED to and I don't even THINK of that so I click the OTHER reply button instead without even THINKING because it's mechanically programed into my brain that way.
You negate your "confusing" comment when you follow up by explaining exactly what you do wrong and WHY you do it. It's not confusing to you. You just don't like having to click the reply button underneath a person's name because you like clicking on a big ones. Just as some people hate or don't like specific rules, policies, etc. at this board, that's not really a problem.
Basically, most everyone who complains just has that specific issue: they don't like clicking reply underneath a person's name. That's not an issue though it leads more creedence to my belief that I should have the big reply buttons removed for this forum. I might test that out later.
Jin already re-emphasized the double-posting thing, which is an issue that exists with a table format just as much as this one (along with the fact that if you "must" read things as a table, you just click on the gray/silver links and the entire topic displays as a table). Unless you are a mod, whether or not someone has "illegally" double-posted isn't your concern anyway.
For me, this is much simpler because instead of having to load an entire topic to read a couple of posts, I just go directly to the posts in question due to being able to see when a post was made. So page loading that would take 1 minute or more, takes less than 10 seconds.
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Oh and Red, POWER TO THE PEOPLE MAN!!!!!
Not really. There's no voting here just as people don't put up to a vote how to run or decorate their own home. If you're a visitor, you either accept it & stay or don't & leave. That's the way life works.
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Not really. There's no voting here just as people don't put up to a vote how to run or decorate their own home. If you're a visitor, you either accept it & stay or don't & leave. That's the way life works
You're real mean sometimes you know that Red? You're excluding the fact that each person who regularily posts here also "lives" here. How long have I been posting here. Do I JUST look like a visitor to you? To be quite frank red, I do believe the regular posters should have SOME say in it, especially since they make up the majority of the people here and we're stuck looking at it. I'm not saying this is the case, but if you're going to act like this a monarchy then I hope to God everyone else starts to realize this because you just can't make a MB work without the regular posters either. They're just as important as the staff, and their opinions are just as important as the staff. The staff only serve to make sure people aren't breaking the rules and maintain the themes and design of the board. Other than getting a few special privalages here and there, they're no different than your average poster.
If I was talking to you in real life right now do you honestly think I'm going to treat you like a different person? No. And I don't appreciate the whole "If you don't like it too bad leave you're not welcome here you suck" thing because you're not showing any respect to your posters. Now I've grown to respect the staff since it's been a long time since I've actually had an issue with them.
Now I don't want to clutter up this thread and get into an arguement, so if you want to discuss THAT issue I'll be more than glad to sit down over a cup of tea on AIM. My screen name's in my profile. JUST a suggestion by the way, because in all honesty I really don't want to start a flame war over this, I'm just pointing things out.
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You negate your "confusing" comment when you follow up by explaining exactly what you do wrong and WHY you do it. It's not confusing to you. You just don't like having to click the reply button underneath a person's name because you like clicking on a big ones. Just as some people hate or don't like specific rules, policies, etc. at this board, that's not really a problem.
It is a problem if you consistantly forget what section of the board your in and go ahead and press "reply" at the bottom anyway. And I ALMOST did too. And it's not ENTIRELY that I don't like doing that. YES I don't like to because it's easier to press the big button at the bottom, BUT I'm also USED to using the bloody button at the bottom! What you said has NO comparison whatsoever to disagreeing with a rule at this forum. It's a nuisance. It's one of the reasons I don't like going to Ken's board. I didn't KNOW I'd have to constantly watch where I'm driving at a freaking message board!
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Unless you are a mod, whether or not someone has "illegally" double-posted isn't your concern anyway.
It's a concern if you accidently double post and don't like being nagged by a mod if you already know you're not supposed to do it. Not to mention double posting is annoying.
Honestly I swear the majority of the staff here underestimate the average forum poster. 
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Basically, most everyone who complains just has that specific issue: they don't like clicking reply underneath a person's name. That's not an issue though it leads more creedence to my belief that I should have the big reply buttons removed for this forum. I might test that out later.
Or you could just change the layout back to normal. If you do that I'm probably going to think all the threads are closed by mistake before I figure out what happened. Or else I'll sit for twenty minutes wondering where my reply button went. You may find it more conveniant to be able to just look at a certain section of posts, but to be honest I much rather have them all in one section.
I have another reason for that as well, not only does it prevent double posting but it also allows me to see everyone's posts at once so I'm not jumping around to LOOK at other people's posts.
* But is far too angsty to bother....* 
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You're real mean sometimes you know that Red?
You haven't been to other message boards then. This place is one of the most lenient around.
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You're excluding the fact that each person who regularily posts here also "lives" here. How long have I been posting here. Do I JUST look like a visitor to you?
Techincally, ALL of the forumers are visitors. The staff just happens to be the one who makes the rules. And a lot of people have been posting here longer than you have, and you don't see them complaining.
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To be quite frank red, I do believe the regular posters should have SOME say in it, especially since they make up the majority of the people here and we're stuck looking at it.
It's only one forum out of many. It's NOT that big of a deal. The theme's only been in place for a few days; come a week or two, you'll be used to it, no doubt.
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I'm not saying this is the case, but if you're going to act like this a monarchy then I hope to God everyone else starts to realize this because you just can't make a MB work without the regular posters either.
Actually, pretty much all message boards ARE monarchies. Or if you want to be more blunt, dictatorships. If we don't follow the rules, we get warned. If we break the rules again, we get smote with the banhammer. No one votes on anything around here except the Mods and the Admins...and even then, Vector and True Red (the Co-Webmasters) are the ones who have the final say on anything. But like I said earlier, this place is very LENIENT on what you can and can't post (or, to be more precise, how many people will jump on your back; sure, some will disagree with you, but you won't get a warning for saying something that's not popular and doesn't break a rule at the same time).
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They're just as important as the staff, and their opinions are just as important as the staff.
Not really. I once thought like that, but that's not the case. The only concern for the staff is running the message board (and having a good time doing it ). Everything else is secondary. No matter how much a forumer is well-liked or how popular he/she is with the staff, if that forumer did something wrong, the staff would act regardless.
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The staff only serve to make sure people aren't breaking the rules and maintain the themes and design of the board. Other than getting a few special privalages here and there, they're no different than your average poster.
The Admins also have the power to ban anyone and everyone at a moment's notice. So yes, they ARE different.
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If I was talking to you in real life right now do you honestly think I'm going to treat you like a different person? No.
Maybe, maybe not. In real life, there's a whole different set of rules, so the staff (along with a lot of other people here) act differently offline.
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And I don't appreciate the whole "If you don't like it too bad leave you're not welcome here you suck" thing because you're not showing any respect to your posters.
Since when did the staff say 'you suck'? They've been very NICE. (And if you're talking about Jinsoku, well, he's like that. Oldbie to the core. ) I believe True Red is still on dial-up; that's why she's in favor of this layout. It saves her time and helps her do her job. After all, wouldn't you buy a car if it helped you get to work faster than walking? Same goes for many of the other old-timers on the staff.
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I really don't want to start a flame war over this, I'm just pointing things out.
There's not going to be a flame war over a layout. Even if people didn't like it, a flame war over a simple LAYOUT change is utterly ridiculous (Now, if it involved a theme change to a 'Teletubbies' theme, THEN we have flame war material. 
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YES I don't like to because it's easier to press the big button at the bottom, BUT I'm also USED to using the bloody button at the bottom!
I was also used to like the old design for Cookie Crisp when they changed it.
I'm still living.
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I didn't KNOW I'd have to constantly watch where I'm driving at a freaking message board!
Then start watching where you drive then. o.-
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It's a concern if you accidently double post and don't like being nagged by a mod if you already know you're not supposed to do it. Not to mention double posting is annoying.
With this layout, you wouldn't be nagged because you're replying to different parts of the same thread (that's why the titles of the post are often different when someone seemingly double posts, like Rico did earlier on). You can tell the difference when looking at the thread and all of its replies whether or not someome made a 'pseudo-double post' and a 'real-and-evil-double post'.
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Honestly I swear the majority of the staff here underestimate the average forum poster.
That's an awfully big generalization.
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You may find it more conveniant to be able to just look at a certain section of posts, but to be honest I much rather have them all in one section.
Since they find it more convenient, everyone else's opinion is immediately disregarded. 😛
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I have another reason for that as well, not only does it prevent double posting but it also allows me to see everyone's posts at once so I'm not jumping around to LOOK at other people's posts.
(points) Go to MF Central. Then find a thread. Click on the link that is in bold. Surprise; you've got all the threads! But you don't win a car!
HOLD it! You lie!
You're excluding the fact that each person who regularily posts here also "lives" here.
If you "live" here then you would know for a fact that the MoFo has always been a tree-branch type of forum! As many of us have been here since 199-friggin'-8, we can all tell you that that is how the MoFo has always been, and will always be.
Like Ultra has already said, there's a BAJILLION other forums out there in the SHQ to post on. I personally don't agree on having them all, because if it were up to me, it'd be like the good ol' times; the MoFo and nothing else. But yet you and a couple of other users insist on changing a format in which the regulars and the oldbies, not to mention the history, outnumber the whiners. Well that's not going to fly. Not here, bud.
Your objection to "I forget where to click because I was at one forum a minute ago, and now I'm here and I completely forgot!", holds nothing. Not even a grain of salt. It's called LEARN and live with it. The main reason we were in table format was because of the EZhack if I remember correctly. Then the tables were left just for the theme.
So again, if you've "lived" here, then you'd know that those of us who have "lived" here since day one, know that the TREE format has always been! You and everyone else are just barking, and anything you say is irrelevant because it's NOT - THAT - HARD!
No, we're not mean. We're very, very linient compared to other places. Go try the Something Awful forums. Try any other forum, and whine just like this. Your ass would be sent packing. We let you talk. But in this case, in reality, there is no case.
And one last thing, which really kinda irks me, you don't "live" here, and this is not your "home". This is a community, and it's more of a privelage for you to post in ANY message board on the internet than a right. To that I also say get detatched. I don't know how old you are, but if you're young, you will grow, and you will stop being emo about the smallest thing, ie; this shinannigan.
So drop it.
Add this to your cop thread in Marble Garden, and I'm starting to notice how you have MAJOR issues with authority.
Perhaps you should focus on getting those issues resolved, it's a very anti-social attitude to maintain, I'm worried about you, lass. Hit the real world with such an aggressive (not violent, I meant in terms of Passive-Assertive-Aggressive) attitude towards the aspects in life you cannot control and you'll never survive the working world. Constantly questioning and undermining (especially when you have no coherant arguement to do effectively) authority will get you no where, you need to reassess your perspectives and deal with whatever issues you have on the subject.
Seriously, you're the only one here who's making a huge deal out of it.
I pretty much agree with everything Jin and US007 said regard Mau's latest points. However, I have a couple things to add.
Firstly, how do you forget which forum you're in? Thanks to the magic of different layouts, they're pratically colour-coded. It is not hard to remember dark red Shadow theme = MFC = click the post-specific reply buttons.
Secondly, your point that the users are just as important as the administration is perfectly valid in the abstract. However, in this particular instance, it's pretty irrelevant. Why? Well, you may not like it, nor might a couple of others (Wraith actually already has left this section of the community over this trivial affair), but the problem is that no-one else particularly minds or, if they do, they just deal with it. Even if everyone who hated this layout left the MFC or even the MoFo altogether, some of you might be missed, but there are plenty more where you came from who are quite content to just carry on posting.
Thirdly, it's really no biggie. Seriously. I don't know whether you actually are greatly offended by this layout or you're just making yourself out to be by protesting about it constantly, but either way, it's not a life-changingly, world-alteringly massive deal that the layout is different. Is your whole life thrown out of whack just because the layout and way of posting on just one section of a much larger online community inconvenience (yes, inconvenience, not prevent) your communication with a bunch of people you have, in the most part, never even met? If the answer is yes, you might want to re-evaluate your priorities.
To borrow a phrase from Michael Winner: calm down, dear! It's just a message board. ;P
...incase someone decides to make another theme topic in MFC before checking MFC2.
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I was also used to like the old design for Cookie Crisp when they changed it.
When did they change that?! O' CAP'N CRUNCH, LORD OF CEREAL, YE HAVE FORSAKEN ME!
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Basically, most everyone who complains just has that specific issue: they don't like clicking reply underneath a person's name
I've used the reply button underneath the persons name since I started on the board, and never used the big button at the bottom, and I'm having problems 
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(Wraith actually already has left this section of the community over this trivial affair)
Now that it's in MFC2 I can read it again without tying my brain in knots
Seriously though, if it was trivial to me I wouldn't have left. I don't know whether my brain has a chemical imbalance in it that makes me unable to grasp the concept of tree format or what...my mind just refuses to comprehend it.
I have not given up completely...I still visit the MFC regularly, trying to figure out the system, but I simply cannot seem to get it.
Wraith
Mau -
Can you just hang on until we move? You've endured the layout before as we've had it for over 5 years... You should be able to last another three months with it. The classic Mobius Forum had this layout since DAY ONE. And again... this is the ONLY forum with this layout.
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Now that it's in MFC2 I can read it again without tying my brain in knots
Um, you do know that you can view the entire thread by simply clicking on the bold title, don't you?
I honestly don't know how this is confusing. I mean, if you don't want to reply to an individual post, you still have the big reply button at the bottom of the page.
I agree with what Red and others have said. This is the classic format. It's been this way ever since I first became a member in '02. Not to mention it sets it apart from the other forums.
I personally don't find it confusing, just cluttered.
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And again... this is the ONLY forum with this layout.
Fang's Trading Post.
Awww, most people took care of the comments for me. Just a couple of things to note before addressing Wraith.
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Now I don't want to clutter up this thread and get into an arguement, so if you want to discuss THAT issue I'll be more than glad to sit down over a cup of tea on AIM. My screen name's in my profile.
I don't use AIM save for private conversations, so no I don't share my AIM SN and neither do those that know it. Also, if you want to talk to me in private, the ezbox is always there along with email.
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I believe True Red is still on dial-up; that's why she's in favor of this layout. It saves her time and helps her do her job.
Actually, the fact that I'm on dial-up has no bearing on my reasoning for liking the tree-layout, Ultra. 🙂 The tree layout does save me time and that is one of biggest reasons I love it. When I was an undergrad, I was on a T1 LAN and still preferred the tree-layout for the same reasons I do now.
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I've used the reply button underneath the persons name since I started on the board, and never used the big button at the bottom, and I'm having problems
How good are you with imagery? For example, can you visualize steps on a stairway from a side-ways view?
I think you're all just agreeing with her because she's on staff. 
And no Lighthead, we can't have that because it greatly offends me.
Seriously I prefer Ezboard and by the time you guys even do get to move I have no idea if I'll even HAVE the not by then. I'm sure I will eventually. See I plan on graduating college with an associates in December and then I'll be stuck living with my mom for a while without internet. xx Until I get a job and (hopefully) move out, that might be a long time.
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I don't use AIM save for private conversations, so no I don't share my AIM SN and neither do those that know it. Also, if you want to talk to me in private, the ezbox is always there along with email.
I prefer some form of instant messenger. I hardly ever check my e-mail unless it's for some very important reason. Instant messenger gets the point acrossed immediatly since it's the closest thing to actually talking to someone IRL without speaking. And I thought "SailorJuliesu" was your IM?
I also tried ezbox once a long time ago and got nothing back from you. I don't value either e-mail or ezboard PM because I question the validity of the service as far as getting my message acrossed. Plus it takes longer and I've got a very busy schedule (despite the fact that it looks like all I do is hang around the mofo all day, I actually have 18 hours of classes a week)
On another note, I question why people agree with TR that we're just a bunch of "visitors." Yet is says in the MB description that we're supposed to be "Somewhat of a family" correct? If we are a "family" then the "mofo" is our place of "residence" is it not? Even though I'm not really sure how I'd consider myself family except I consider Cookirini like a sister to me. *shrugs* That isn't my point though.
And I see you all fail to realize that if everyone but the staff left tomarrow, and didn't come back, there really wouldn't be much of a MB now would there. That's the point I was trying to make about that.
Another thing, I have been here for quite a long time and I'm well aware that the layout was like that before, I just never went into MB Central THAT much. Knothole was my favorite place to hang out at the time, until Craig introduced me to marble gardin, and the rest is history.
I simply call the layout that's in the other sections the "normal" layout since that's the layout I'm used to seeing.
That's all I can think of to say at the moment. o.o
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I think you're all just agreeing with her because she's on staff.
No. We just happen to agree because a good majority of us feel the same way.
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Seriously I prefer Ezboard and by the time you guys even do get to move I have no idea if I'll even HAVE the not by then. I'm sure I will eventually. See I plan on graduating college with an associates in December and then I'll be stuck living with my mom for a while without internet. xx Until I get a job and (hopefully) move out, that might be a long time.
The move starts when Gold runs out, which is on Febrauary 14th, 2006.
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On another note, I question why people agree with TR that we're just a bunch of "visitors." Yet is says in the MB description that we're supposed to be "Somewhat of a family" correct? If we are a "family" then the "mofo" is our place of "residence" is it not?
Technically, we ARE visitors (I think I'm the one who made the point about 'visitors' to begin with, so how could I be agreeing with TR when she didn't even mention that factoid?). Sure, we can consider ourselves 'family members'...but practically and pragmatically speaking, that isn't the case.
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And I see you all fail to realize that if everyone but the staff left tomarrow, and didn't come back, there really wouldn't be much of a MB now would there. That's the point I was trying to make about that.
This message board has 6000 members. Let's assume everyone has at least one double account. That brings it to 3000. Now let's bring it down by those who don't come here anymore. Roughly around 1500 or so. That's still a lot.
That's an awfully big 'what-if' you're making...and, statistically speaking, an impossible one. The only way something like that would happen is if everyone's Internet access save for the staff's were terminated. An outlandish statement like that holds about as much water as claiming that the moon is made of cheese.
I think you're all just agreeing with her because she's on staff.
God, just stop. I'm staff, too, you nut. And even then, this isn't a "kiss ass" board. So jesus tap dancing christ quit your useless yapping.
On another note, I question why people agree with TR that we're just a bunch of "visitors." Yet is says in the MB description that we're supposed to be "Somewhat of a family" correct? If we are a "family" then the "mofo" is our place of "residence" is it not?
You're taking that WAY too literally. It's a saying. We're all friends. And we're all in a community. Feels like a family. BUT THERE ARE RULES and, for crap's sake, it's a god damn MESSAGE board. It's not a "residence"! It's a board, you have friends, you keep in touch, it's still THERE. It's not going anywhere. It looks different, ohnoes.
And if you know it was the tree before, why bother to force it upon everyone to change it to what it's NOT.
Stop it.
I just never went into MB Central THAT much. Knothole was my favorite place to hang out at the time, until Craig introduced me to marble gardin, and the rest is history
THEN STAY THERE and quit your whinin'! >.<
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Even EZboard thinks True Red is right, holy snaps!
Am not understanding this custom on this MoFo. On Bizarro MoFo we am all living outside homes and be able to run in and tell them what to do, am very polite and make great for barbecue parties which am held in bathroom.
Am not understanding why mods and admins allow users to speak when it am their home. In Bizarro MoFo am Bizarro Bayfield stole all the money from HRDboard Copper fund and am now controlling entire Bizarro MoFo, yet in real MoFo people put money in and get no say at all. Am not understanding, think there am much to learn.
Stockholders in Bizarro MoFo and community investors of real MoFo am very much alike, lose all money and am get nothing in return, always letting free people pay for their stuff and tell everything what to do, and admin and mod am never doing any work at all and they never get to say anything about anything. Am thinking that this am most fair.
Bizarro True Red am always wrong and stupid, which am why everyone am always disagree with her and support Bizarro Mau and Bizarro Harley instead, for besides alweakly Bizarro Matthayter and Bizarro George W Bush, they am most learned people in Bizarro World! Am very smart and very attractive, am many bets on if Bizarro Harley or Bizarro Mau marries Bizarro W Bush, am Bizarro Bayfield hoping to lose all money on that bet, odds am very bad, so very happy.
But that am here and there. Many injustice happen in Bizarro MoFo World, like Bizarro Michael Jackson and Bizarro Bruce Wayne both being wrongly accused of sleeping with adult women, am both found guilty, me am thinking this am bigger brutality than Bizarro MoFo not letting mods and admins do anything with their own forum. Am thinking all problems would be solved if admins and mods am never talking about things in everyone-but-staff room, it am worse to have idea made with 30 people than to have Bizarro Bayfield dictate and rule on his own. Me am worst ruler in MoFo history, citizens all very happy they send me away to real MoFo. Me am very calm and relaxed about this.
But me is going on-topic now, so me go back to trees and tables which am all made best by Ikea, best store on Earth!
Bizarro MoFo uses chairs and plants, which am very straightforward, am very easy to reply by pressing "ignore" button on the page after the post you am not wanting to reply to, am always making newbies heads feel nice, but everyone else am not used to them. It am always being like that, except in Nack's Taking Pre.
Am thinking Mau should heavy up and stop being such a dry mattress, everyone else am complaining, and me think Mau should too! Speak up, Mau, you am making a genius of yourself!
Am being too polite, am very non-appologetic am you ever able to blame me?
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No. We just happen to agree because a good majority of us feel the same way.
Seems too much of a coincidence to me that EVERY discussion I get into, EVERYONE backs up what the mods and admins say.
Though I could just be paranoid
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The move starts when Gold runs out, which is on Febrauary 14th, 2006.
That's fine but I can't promise I'll even have the internet by then. Time will tell if I can get a job around that time, and it may not be easy after the holidays either.
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Technically, we ARE visitors (I think I'm the one who made the point about 'visitors' to begin with, so how could I be agreeing with TR when she didn't even mention that factoid?). Sure, we can consider ourselves 'family members'...but practically and pragmatically speaking, that isn't the case.
Really? Because I was starting to consider myself at home with this message board and one of the mofoers. But now I'm starting to feel unwelcome here again. I realize that "practically and pragmatically speaking" we AREN'T really family, after all I myself felt a little uneasy at the idea of considering the people here family, but I was starting to consider this place my "Home message board." Not in the sense that we live here, but the sense that this is my home on the net, like a home away from home type deal. But JUST a visitor? That seems quite degrading and hurtful to be thought of just that. Maybe we ARE visitors but we're part of the community, do you honestly think the mayor gets away with doing whatever he wants all the freaking time?
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This message board has 6000 members. Let's assume everyone has at least one double account. That brings it to 3000. Now let's bring it down by those who don't come here anymore. Roughly around 1500 or so. That's still a lot.
That's an awfully big 'what-if' you're making...and, statistically speaking, an impossible one. The only way something like that would happen is if everyone's Internet access save for the staff's were terminated. An outlandish statement like that holds about as much water as claiming that the moon is made of cheese.
Look, that isn't even my POINT. My point had NOTHING to do with the fact that there are a ton of members at the board. I REALIZE that the chances of that are slim, I'm just saying if that happened, the staff wouldn't even HAVE a message board anymore. I did NOT imply that it was GOING to happen.
*eats a piece of the moon cheese*
And as for what JIN said, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with that display of bullying.
Unfortunately the heartulent blue and lack of expression make it seem almost..sarcastic.
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But JUST a visitor? That seems quite degrading and hurtful to be thought of just that. Maybe we ARE visitors but we're part of the community, do you honestly think the mayor gets away with doing whatever he wants all the freaking time?
Technically speaking, yes. I like to consider myself as more than just a visitor too. I'm sure almost all, if not everyone, considers themselves to be part of this MoFo 'family'. I'm sure a lot of these people consider their fellow forumers to be smart, cool, and intelligent.
HOWEVER, the fact of the matter is, we do not have a say in a matter such as this. It's only a simply layout change, nothing more. Is it REALLY worth making such a fuss over? Think about it.
"Look, that isn't even my POINT. My point had NOTHING to do with the fact that there are a ton of members at the board. I REALIZE that the chances of that are slim, I'm just saying if that happened, the staff wouldn't even HAVE a message board anymore. I did NOT imply that it was GOING to happen."
As has already been said, what you say is true. However, the very fact that such a mass exodus of forummers as required to kill this community frankly isn't going to happen over this petty issue renders your point irrelevant to this discussion. Mass protests kind of need the support of, y'know, the masses to work and that's something you don't exactly have.
Also, on the whole family vs. visitors thing, the two aren't mutually exclusive. I don't know about you, but my whole entire family don't all live in my home. Most of them have their own homes and if I was to go to one, I would still be a visitor even though I'm family. Same if one of them came round this way. So even if you do look upon the people of this forum as family, doesn't mean you can't also be a visitor. You may think of the MoFo as your home on the internet, but you are here only by Red's and Vec's grace and that's pretty much the definition of visitor in my book.
Well I suppose you guys have a point. But that's why I consider visiting my reletives to be a home away from home.
If you want to be technical though, home is where the heart is. My heart belongs with my boyfriend, so technically I'm not going to be home until we're together again. But that's besides the point.
Alright you win I'll back down.
Just no more rude comments from certian members that I won't mention I implore you.
I'll deal with it. Besides only time will tell, maybe I will get the net in time to see the great move, maybe I won't. Lord only knows. I don't visit MF Central that often anyway.
Ah well, back to usual discussion areas...
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I prefer some form of instant messenger.
I don't use messengers for anything other than private convos. You want to discuss something from the board with me, it's email or ezbox.
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I also tried ezbox once a long time ago and got nothing back from you.
I've never received anything from you. Do you make sure to send it to my account? A lot of people mistakeningly send stuff to a global True Red account, which I don't own.
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Seems too much of a coincidence to me that EVERY discussion I get into, EVERYONE backs up what the mods and admins say.
Yes, you're paranoid. Re-read the topic in full before you say "everyone." ;p
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I'm just saying if that happened, the staff wouldn't even HAVE a message board anymore.
That's not true. It would just be a small board again if that happened, just like it was in the beginning. While I wasn't a member when it was at its smallest, I was around when it was still relatively small--and so were some others that still poke around here (some more regularly than others). As long as somebody is still coming here, the message board will exist. The quantity of "the somebody" doesn't matter.
