there was something on yahoo's news page about how vegans dont eat white sugar i was curious and it turned out to get the sugar looking white they use cattle bones 0____0 i read a bit more and i found out that most beers use fish bladder.
FISH BLADDER!!!!
what the hell >____<
omg and i read other stuff like how glatien used for candy and chips was made by boiling cattle bones skins and other stuff..... what other stuff X__X i dont mind if it was the animals fat but bone and bladder?!
im so disgusted.... cant believe i ate that stuff, vegans really came out helpful with this.
I'm OK with eating these things.
There's this place called Huck Finn's I went to once that served Frog legs and Alligator tail. I've had both and the Frog legs were really soft and chewy and they tasted like that fat that you can eat on Steaks but you're not supposed to.
The Gator Tail was cut up into little pieces like Clam strips and they tasted similar but with a chickeny taste.
If I can eat that, bring on the fish bladder!
ewwwwwwwwwwww
i can never eat something that could've ate a person, how could you eat an alligator >___<
and no its not fair i dont want to eat anything with bone in it, that's gross... i dont want to eat gross stuff.
Does knowing what's in a meal change the taste or nutritional value? No. So what's the deal? Not to sound rude, but I can eat a hotdog knowing both the absurd things put in it, as well as knowing that they can supposedly give you cancer.
Once again, sorry about the double posting. I can't seem to get my internet under control.
I once ate bugs inadvertantly due to letice I was picking at being covered in afids.
They have my sympathy, what a way to go.
I can eat a hotdog knowing both the absurd things put in it.
I see your hotdog, and raise you a plate of chitterlings.
I know this is pretty much common knowledge but I'm saying it cause I just love my cheese.
Many cheeses are produced using rennet from calf stomaches. Baby cows 🙁 Kind of makes you think twice.
There are a lot of cheese now that are produced with rennet from different sources such as vegetable (eg traditional Wensleydale) but you've got to keep your eye on that sort of thing. So yeah.
If I like the taste, I don't care what's in it. I'm not bothered if blue smarties are dyed with beetle blood.
Is it an urban myth that Jelly Babies are banned in the US for containing carcinogens?
As for the cheese thing, presumably the baby cows were slaughtered to make a delicious piece of veal? So you might just as well use the entrails for something else. Waste not, want not.
Having said that, I draw the line at liver, kidneys, faggots, black pudding and haggis - mainly because they don't actually taste nice at all.
DW
What doesn't taste nice about haggis? O_o
Waitasecond rewind? Hotdogs can give you cancer!?!?! I've never heard of this before, but then again I don't keep up with all the studies taking place out there!
Yeah, there was a study that stated that hot dogs can lead to rectal cancer.
Whoa! I better watch my intake of Hotdogs then. I've already had cancer once, I don't need it again!
<hugs eggpire> i'm sorry you had that, i'm glad you're healthy now and wish that you never get anything bad ever again.
as for those that are okay with it, trust me guys companies dont care about our health the food companies just want to make money, and they'll use anything to make it look good enough for us to buy it, we dont need sugar to be white okay! i'm not gonna eat bones like a dog. its something to do with myself respect i wont eat weird stuff unless i knew about it and decided to eat them. i'm gonna be more careful from now on. i tossed out twix and sneakers and i'll never eat them again, i wont eat marshmellows either, geltine is off limits for me now.. those things are making me fat anyway why eat gross unhealthy stuff. and thanks for the info on cheese i love cheese too that's why i'm buying simple local stuff, only giant companies would use tricks for its sales.
and about eatting bugs, robo i read somewhere that cerel flakes have bugs in them X___X and when we're sleeping we swollow some too without knowing. wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects.
It's good that you've become aware of your health, but regardless of how unhealthy something may be, you shouldn't let a fear of unhealthiness ruin any enjoyment you may have in life. Personally I don't worry about my health anymore. Any problems I have I was born with, so I may be a bit biased in this, but at least for me, it can't get much worse... unless I get cancer that is. That would suck.
Thank you very much Mada! I hope all will be well!
Anyways as to what Ramza said. I agree pretty much there. I'm of the belief that nothing (foodstuff anyways) is bad as long as you take in moderation and keep some amount of activity going throughout the day. Everyone knows that a BigMac is unhealthy, but eating one every once in a while isn't going to kill you. As far as knowing what is in foods, I'd rather not know. There's a lot of nasty stuff inside your favorite delicious dishes, and the knowledge of what's in them isn't gonna stop me from eating.
If I like the taste, I don't care what's in it. I'm not bothered if blue smarties are dyed with beetle blood.
Is it an urban myth that Jelly Babies are banned in the US for containing carcinogens?
As for the cheese thing, presumably the baby cows were slaughtered to make a delicious piece of veal? So you might just as well use the entrails for something else. Waste not, want not.
Having said that, I draw the line at liver, kidneys, faggots-
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Faggot (food)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaA faggot is a kind of meatball. Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3]
A faggot is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly
meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and
sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked. A similar dish, almôndega, is traditional in Portugal. Another variation of faggot is Pig's fry
wrapped in pig's caul: the pig's fry and boiled onions are minced
(ground) together then mixed with breadcrumbs or cold boiled potatoes,
seasoned with sage, mixed herbs and pepper, all beaten together and then
wrapped in small pieces of caul to form a ball. These are then baked in
the oven and are usually served cold.[6] The first use in print cited in the Oxford English Dictionary is in 1851, from Thomas Mayhew, although this appears to be a calzone- or pasty-like dish, with an outer wrapper of caul, covering a filling of mixed pork offal. This was in London.The dish saw its greatest popularity with the rationing during World War II but has become less popular in recent years[citation needed]. Faggots are usually homemade and are to be found in traditional butchers' shops and market stalls.
A popular dish is "Faggots and Peas". This is a common combination in the Black Country area of the West Midlands,
especially so since the 18th century industrialisation onwards, but
also for hundreds of years prior. It is still common to see small
butchers' shops in the area selling faggots to their own (sometimes
secret) recipe for a cheap price. Commonly, the faggot consists of pork
liver and heart minced, wrapped in kel, with onion and breadcrumbs.
Often, the faggot should be cooked in a crock, with gravy and served with peas and mashed potato.Faggots are also known as "ducks" in the Midlands, Yorkshire and Lancashire, often as "savoury ducks". "In Leigh market in 1905 you could buy a savoury duck rolled up in an oatmeal cake."
... Oh, well, er...
My Bad! Carry on...
^ XD
Personally I don't worry about my health anymore. Any problems I have I was born with, so I may be a bit biased in this, but at least for me, it can't get much worse... unless I get cancer that is. That would suck.
<hugs> sweety everyone has something negative in them if not in health in other things. but thats' no reason to give up on having fun and using your consumer rights, we demand the best and healthiest of foods. food is an esential part of our daily life its what keeps us healthy energetic productive and ethletic. if we dont eat the right foods we get sick and that will effect our lives.
food shouldnt be taken so lightly.
But just because it might seem like a gross thing to eat doesn't mean it's bad for you...
Like, for instance, the cattle bones they grind into the sugar might provide calcium the sugar wouldn't otherwise have.
Those of you on Facebook may wish to peruse this list: http://www.facebook.com/# !/group.php?gid=269512464297
Don't know how up to date it is, but it lists out all the things that the Daily Mail has reported to be carcinogenic. It's a long list.
Meanwhile, I think I will continue to eat meat.
DW
>___< people in the past didnt need it, if anything eatting regular food is healthy eatting modified foods even if it uses organic materials cant be good for the health. we already know that bones are used to make galetine, so in that sense white sugar makes you fatter than eatting normal sugar.
there's nothing wrong with our foods being the way they are, but using dyes and tricks to make them more "appealing" might cost us our health and years.
dont be lazy people, dont fall for the devil's candy <cough cough> XD okay i went too far, but really i hope we all change a bit of our eatting habbits for our sake. there's lots of increase in unhealthy food dieseases like obiesty, diabetes and even heart problems... we need to be careful and learn from those that got ill from bad foods.
darkwing dear, i cant see that facebook link if you can copy and paste it or at least give us some of the stuff on the list that would be great X___X though honestly i'm afraid of what i'll find out.
Just because something's unnatural doesn't make it bad and just because something's natural doesn't make it good.
I don't know about the gelatin thing but I don't think dyes actually have any effect on a foods nutritional value besides... well, dying it.
There are also unnatural processes that make the food safer for consumption, such as COOKING it. In the wild, animals just eat the meat raw. If we tried that we'd probably catch something.
So we have to heat it up or do something else to it to kill germs and make it safer to eat. We also do things like put vitamins and other things where they normally wouldn't be, just to give it some nutritional value. I'm pretty sure some foods for children have this done to them so that they can grow into strong, healthy men/women.
There's also all kinds of poisonous crud out there in the natural world. Berries that give you diarrhea, those colorful frogs, Blowfish... everything on this list.
So, basically, what I'm saying is sometimes it's good for them to modify foods... I'm not saying ALL of the modifications are good for us, but you shouldn't just judge the food industry as a whole based on those.
people in the past didnt need it
people in the past didn't live to see 40, on average
people in the past didnt need it, if anything eatting regular food is healthy eatting modified foods even if it uses organic materials cant be good for the health.
Screw that, I like my meat cooked. Well, medium well, slightly pink, and chewy.
As long as it tastes good and won't give me any diseases or kill me, I don't care what the food is made of. Like I said, I'll happily eat a plate of fried pig intestines. With a liberal amount of ketchup, of course.
DW, you forgot to stress for the uninitiated that The Daily Mail is a disreputable, scaremongering, sensationalist little rag with a regular history of spurious science, never backing its claims up, generally lying its head off on and regularly ending up in court. You don't want people to take that list too seriously.
Mada, just copy the whole length of the link into your address bar, rather than trying to click on it whilst it's broken.
DW, you forgot to stress for the uninitiated that The Daily Mail is a disreputable, scaremongering, sensationalist little rag with a regular history of spurious science, never backing its claims up, generally lying its head off on and regularly ending up in court. You don't want people to take that list too seriously.
Mada, just copy the whole length of the link into your address bar, rather than trying to click on it whilst it's broken.
Yeah, I should really find a tongue in cheek icon
Mada, sorry, I didn't realise the link was broken - next time I'll hit preview. Try it this way. The page basically seeks to point out all the (often contradictory) things in life which have had cancer scares / increase the risk of cancer - or at least have had cancer scares reported in the Daily Mail. I'll put a few of them in the bottom of this post, in case the link still doesn't work (or is Facebook exclusive) - although you can find similar examples on the web.
Judging by that list, life gives you cancer. I agree it makes sense to consider your own health (and I'm a big fan of that being the individual's responsibility, not the government's, but that's a whole other discussion) - but I also think that if you worry about all the things that *could* be bad for you, you won't enjoy life.
It's a cliché, but everything in moderation. Except at Christmas, when I can eat whole boxes of chocolate - I reckon the last few pieces left from the Milk Tray will go tonight and then I might actually buy some fruit tomorrow I find the problem is that eating healthily takes longer than eating unhealthily. I could cook a healthy meal, or I could come home late and eat toast & marmalade and go to bed...
Of course, the cynical view might also be that it is my patriotic duty to live unhealthily and die early, in order to defuse the pensions / welfare state time bomb - but that's yet another debate!
DW
A selection of items on the list:
Age
Air pollution
Air travel
Allergies
Artificial light
Aspirin
Barbecues
Biscuits
Bras
Bread
Breast feeding
Caffeine
Canned food
Carbohydrates
Chocolate
Coca Cola
Cod liver oil
Cold temperatures with a lack of sunlight (sorry, Scotland)
Curry
ETA: oh, and apparently being physically active and therefore thin is a risk factor...
Small groups or even individuals can scam you just as easily as some monolithic company, if not easier since a big company leaves big legal footprints that can be tracked. Smaller companies can advertise an absolutely false claim and get away with it. See the iRenew thread for yet one example of how some no-name company can rip you off. Just be a smart consumer and don't get sucked into scams. Bigger companies also have a reputation they have to maintain, otherwise if they were known as that company that grinds the bones of children to make their bread, no one in their right mind would buy from them, now would they?
You have to decide exactly what your tolerance level is for certain things. There's a big difference between, say, eating an actual bone, and eating sugar that has ground-up animal bones to alter its appearance. And if you're absolutely determined never to eat such sugar again, you have to make the effort to do the research about the sugar used to bake your bread or other food items that have that sugar in them. The wonderful part is that, depending on where you live, you have the benefit of being able to choose between different sugars. There are many parts of the planet where they are lucky to have edible, safe food at all, much less a luxury like sugar. Count your blessings and stop freaking out over every little thing fringe groups claim will make your life horrible, and you'll probably live longer and healthier than if you stress out over what you eat.
Also Ramza wins for showing that clip of Ranka from Macross Frontier.
Wait, so The Daily Mail = Fox News?
~Tobe
Fair and balanced
Wait, so The Daily Mail = Fox News?
~Tobe
Fair and balanced
In terms of balanced coverage, yes. In terms of actual Murdoch ownership, I don't believe so. For that we have The Times and the Sun.
DW
And The News of the World.
And 47% of Sky TV.
Unfortunately my parents get the Daily Mail. Gives me many laughs when I'm having my toast in the morning.
Especially the day they started an article with the words "ATHEISTS WOULD HAVE YOU BELEIVE"...
Fortunately I haven't seen them cooing over half naked girls in union flag bikinis or singing cringeworthy patriotic songs yet, which is always a plus.
It never ceases to amaze me how a DM reader can berate a Sun reader for doing that without a trace of irony.
That was actually a referance to Fox but ok whatever 😀
And The News of the World.
And 47% of Sky TV.
And soon to be 100% of Sky, since the person who voiced the opinion of all right-minded people everywhere is now banned from having anything to do with the review of the position vis a vis the competition laws...
I know it's only January, but how long before the front page is girls in bikinis in Hyde Park celebrating another "heatwave"?
DW
And soon to be 100% of Sky, since the person who voiced the opinion of
all right-minded people everywhere is now banned from having anything to
do with the review of the position vis a vis the competition laws...
As opposed to the Prime Minister, who decided to have dinner with Murdoch's son and one of News International's Chief Execs right after said person was removed, and broke the Ministerial Code in the process - but there's been a pathetic reluctance by anyone to confront that, in case Rupert throws his toys out of the pram...
That was actually a referance to Fox but ok whatever
I know, but the Murdoch press attitude to patriotism is universal.
I hate to say it, but at least the girls on Fox keep the bikini tops on.
Glen Beck. The only man to ever call Saint Mary a Nazi. That is all.