With car bombing at the end of RAW this past Monday, thus presumlay killing the Mr. Mcmahon character off.
Was WWE finally crossed a line that they can't backup from, because the real FBI is upset with them, news medias constastly have to tell fans and those that don't follow the sport that it was staged.
So the question is have they gone too far this time?
Me, being a long time fan, I really can't say ya or na to it, can anyone else?
You mean there are people who still don't know wrestling is fake?
Jesus.
No, I think its more of a case: They know wrestling is fake but when they hear: Mr McMahon is dead. They are bit oh wow, really? They have blurred it really.
I don't think they went too far really.
I bet Vince wake up in a years time and it was all a dream.
lolz carbombing is linked to terrorism
ololz remember that Muhammed Hussan bloke? He was cool until he brought in masked people to beat up the Undertaker.
Hell no, this is hilarious.
Next they're gonna be fakeshooting people.
With real guns. And real bullets. And real...uh.
Didn't Brandon Lee die from a fakeshooting?
Yeah.
Too bad they didn't have the same person setup this fake carbombing.
~Tobe
Why do I have the feeling they "killed" him so he could grow his hair back after the Trump incident?
Actually, I heard Vince was planning to retire. What better way to goo than with a tribute show followed by an explosion?
He'll be back. They always come back.
Didn't Brandon Lee die from a fakeshooting?
On the brightside, it was one hell of a movie.
On the other side, well...
Ah WWE, you truly are the soap opera for men.
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Ah WWE, you truly are the soap opera for men.
... and the ladies and kids that witness the show with said men.
The media is getting good enough at their profession that they can sometimes fool the FBI or other official agencies. And that is the point where I think they cross the line. Making it believable is one thing, but making it so believable that the authorities waste time investigating it BECAUSE it's plausible, now that's just ridiculous.
I see a lot of people pointing fingers at the police and other authorities for being "stupid" when it comes to investigating stuff like those Brite-Lite ads featuring Mooninites which were mistaken for bombs. But isn't the media responsible for what they themselves put out in the first place? Don't they have marketing people who figure out the kinds of risks that go into their ads and what the effect of some daring strategy might be? This is the real world, people, and when the fantasy world starts interfering with the real world, then that's irresponsible of the people pushing the fantasy world.
Remember, at least one WWE guy HAS died during a stunt - and everyone at the time thought it was scripted.
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Remember, at least one WWE guy HAS died during a stunt - and everyone at the time thought it was scripted.
hence why it's dumb. i don't understand why people like Wrestling i mean the really stupid stuff like WWE it's not even like it's entertaining, the only minor entertainment value is to gawk at how amazingly fake it is.
Everyone should stop watching wrestling and start watching movies with people wrestling.
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hence why it's dumb. i don't understand why people like Wrestling i mean the really stupid stuff like WWE it's not even like it's entertaining, the only minor entertainment value is to gawk at how amazingly fake it is.
It's like asking why people still buy Sonic games. I mean the games are very low in quality as of late and the only minor entertainment value is to say how bad it has gotten.
My answer: people still like wrestling today because at one point, it used to be good, just like Sonic games.
I have to admit, I have been turned off by WWE. Constant promotion of John Cena and Bobby Lashley has done it. I mean one is constantly booed and the other has the charisma of a dead tortoise.
Its easy for me to say this (Gawd bless TWC Fight!)but try out some of the competition. While TNA is slowly turning into Low budget WCW (Thank you Russo) it still has some quality matches on it. ROH is quite enjoyable.
What I'm saying is WWE=/=Wrestling.
When I first saw it, half of me said "it's fake!". Another part of me said "OMGWTF?! He got bombed!" Needless to say, I say it's probably all an act. I'm still watching due to interest but I could care less whether he died or not (although many people would love to see him dead).
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You mean there are people who still don't know wrestling is fake?
Jesus.
Just to clarify, the stories and the angles and all that nonsense is as real as Monopoly money. The actual matches are not, however. You all have to remember that they actually hit each other. There also records of accidents, broken parts and deaths (not just in the WWE, mind you). Besides, how the heck does someone script for one wrestler to have his back cut during a match?
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Remember, at least one WWE guy HAS died during a stunt - and everyone at the time thought it was scripted.
You must be referring to Owen Hart, right?
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I have to admit, I have been turned off by WWE. Constant promotion of John Cena and Bobby Lashley has done it. I mean one is constantly booed and the other has the charisma of a dead tortoise.
Its easy for me to say this (Gawd bless TWC Fight!)but try out some of the competition. While TNA is slowly turning into Low budget WCW (Thank you Russo) it still has some quality matches on it. ROH is quite enjoyable.
What I'm saying is WWE=/=Wrestling.
Trust me, you are not the only one. There are several people out there who have been completely turned off by the WWE. Cena's only cheers come from kids who'll think he was the best thing since Hogan (I don't know about Lashley, though I'm pretty sure you hate him since his arrival to ECW. Thank goodness he's on RAW now). However, those two are not WWE (even though the promotion is pushing them to be so).
Although I can't make an opinion on Russo, I do have to agree that Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) is World Championship Wrestling (WCW)'s successor. As for Ring of Honor goes, I think that if they become successful with their Pay-Per-View premiere, they'll be what Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) should be now.
WWE as a whole is not wrestling. However, WWE has some quality matches here and there. It's hard to look for diamonds through the current crap, though.
It's definitely an act. The point of this topic is to address the question of whether the act went to far or not. =.
Also, a script may not call for someone to recieave an injury, but the act leading to the injury may full well be scripted.
I addressed it in the very beginning of my reply. In case I was not clear, yes, it went very far: people save ten belt salutes for people who actually pass away (ie no script). The fact that it was used for a story is indeed going too far. Whether I'm surprised or not is a question for another topic.
Also, I agree with your second statement.
My problem with Lashley is that while he is a great wrestler, they are trying to make him Lesnar Mk2. Only without Paul Heyman screaming into a mike every week and he did look like he was going to really beat the crap out of someone.
Lashley doesn't. He just doesn't have Brock's look. Maybe a *slight* change of character will improve him.
They've used the 10 bell salute for a storyline before: Big Shows dad died a while before the whole storyline with the Big Bossman.
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Just to clarify, the stories and the angles and all that nonsense is as real as Monopoly money. The actual matches are not, however. You all have to remember that they actually hit each other. There also records of accidents, broken parts and deaths (not just in the WWE, mind you). Besides, how the heck does someone script for one wrestler to have his back cut during a match?
they "hit" each other less than 20% of the time and when they do, they use their entire arms like a clothesline so it doesn't hurt. the other 80% of the time if you slow it down, you can clearly see that they make no contact.
also, the only reason why they have records of broken bones and accidents is because they do moves that have no effect in a real fight but could severly damage their own body.
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also, the only reason why they have records of broken bones and accidents is because they do moves that have no effect in a real fight but could severly damage their own body.
I was referring when wrestlers perform their moves wrong (botching).
The guy probably killed himself off to finally be off camera and do his damn job of actually being chairman of the freakin' franchise. I don't blame him one bit, the thing was getting beyond ridiculous.
But now I sit here and ask myself: is his character even real? (Vince being the chairman president yadda yadda bla blaetc). Prolly not.
I miss the good ol' days. I think the times of Sting and Hollywood Hogan in the WCW was fake-wrestling at its peak... then downhill.
The only things worth watching in current wrestling is when they pull their crazy acrobatics stunts, cuz, let's face it, you can't fake falling and twirling and crap. I also think it's an art to do that, and NOT get freakin' hurt.
As far as go too far? N'ah. The media are the retards who wasted their time in this piece. I mean, seriously; the camera ALWAYS HAPPENS to just "be there" when there's a brawl at the parking lot, or outside, or on the street, or w/e the stupid crap. This case was no different. Tough shnuggets to the authorities, too. They, too, were a bunch of jackasses if it's true that they wasted their time in this. (But there's no link to prove so, so yeah...)
Jin, I'd be more upset if there was a report of a carbombing, ANY carbombing, and the authorities shrugged it off.
Shouldn't they apply for pyrotechnics licenses and stuff anyway? Don't they have to report stunts like that BEFOREHAND so the police DON'T waste time on it?
Isn't it a CRIME to do otherwise?
It wouldn't have gotten near the press if they had reported it beforehand. And you wouldn't be talking about it. I'd say it worked on the media, police, and you, just like they wanted it too.
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
~Tobe
I like how the cameraman didn't budge one inch when the explosion happened. XD
That doesn't make it more legal.