Yea Jin's Playstation series names and abbrev. is pretty much how I remember it being. Hahaha you forgot about your Dreamcast! Gosh I was under the impression you were some kind of cool dude, man. XP And then you come and redeem yourself with Cvs.SNK 2, so that was a close one. lol As for sports games...the only baseball games I can remember playing were Cal Ripken Jr. for SNES[if you were good your home runs would go into the upper levels and hit the coke machines and makes drinks fall out and stuff it was great =)] and Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run for SNES. Both were good baseball games for me. Good to see you remember SSB and DKR now. As for the Maddens and NCAAs on PS i'll admit I didn't like them that much at first. The 2D ones just had that nice unrealistic feel to them and everything. lol Hmmm, a DS and a DSL...would you like to give an unfortunate soul a break[and i'm not talking about a Kit-Kat]? 
I'd send you my DS if I could. =/
Phoenix Wright takes up like 80% of its' useage anyway, and it's not real replayable after the third or fourth time.
Jin, go get yourself a copy of LocoRoco or Gitaroo Man, and then tell me your PSP is good for nothing. You will not be able to without being a bare-faced liar.
On topic, if the good games are there, I'll play it. Don't care about console, company or generation. My Saturn sits next to my PS2, twin Gamecubes, the Xbox and Dreamcast, and even my PSP and DS sit side by side on my desk. I love all my old games, but the newer ones can provide just as much entertainment.
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A handheld full of N64 remakes is worse than a console full of PS2 remakes.
The DS has two N64 remakes, and pretty much a boat load of original titles, the PSP has about two origial titles and a boat load of remakes and ports.
Not that I dislike the PSP, I just got one, but you can't use remakes as an argument against the DS when the PSP is worse for it.
Anyway, I remember the PS1 fondly, MGS1, Soul Blade, Final Fantasy 1, 2, 4 continuing to 9, Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Tombi (never managed to buy sadly.), Silent Bomber, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Mortal Kombat 4, Rival Schools, Saga Frontier 2, Vagrant Story, Alundra, and many others. It had loads of good games for me.
Dreamcast is still my favourite though, though that could change by this time next year, all three systems are getting some whoppers that I can't wait for, next up is BioShock after all.
I actually enjoy the DS quite a bit. The touch screen really introduces a new, and creative way to play games (although most are mini-games and such).
Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin are a couple of great games for DS that should definitely be given a try by those who have yet to do so. If you're a fan of SotN, it's a must.
...Actually, the PS2 remakes remark was about the Wii, hence handheld and console - and the PS1 remakes cost like five bucks, not thirty five like the DS. And no, I don't see too many remakes on shelves. Anyway, it's probably taste, as I already said, my DS just collects dust when I'm not playing Phoenix Wright. Nintendo's working too hard for family friendly fun casual game things, and I'm not seeing much that appeals to my tastes in the DS. Also, if they released Mario Party DS, I would buy it in an instant. <3 [/offtopic]
I'm aware of that, but you previously were recommending the PSP for a couple of games then claim the DS is full of N64 remakes thus rendering it worse than the Wii.
Of the two systems, the DS has far more going for it than the PSP, whether you want to use the touch screen or not, and it's because of that screen that a lot of titles are brand new franchises.
Unfortunately developers think the PSP is a home system, or the greatest retro collector around, it has some great titles like Locoroco and MGS: PO but there could be so many more.
The thing is, all the PS1 titles for download are like $30 less than N64 remakes on the DS. I'm not paying full price for a decade old game. o.o
And as I said, most of these new franchises, they just don't interest me personally.
Whether they interest you or not doesn't mean they don't exist, get good reviews, sell well, and seem to sell the console as well. And also, as I said, only two of the DS titles out there are N64 remakes, Super Mario 64 and Diddy Kong Racing.
Super Mario 64 DS features three new playable characters to the game, new levels and new challenges, as well as a visual boost. Though I agree I wouldn't have wanted it at full price.
Diddy Kong Racing DS features new characters and online WiFi play from what I know.
Both games had extra work done to them to make the price a little bit worth it, though I agree a lower price would be nice. And if you'll notice downloadable N64 titles on the Wii are a lot less, about 7 over here.
I'm sorry, I seem to have misworded a previous post to imply that the DS is a failure and that nobody has ever found any game interesting? Of course people are entitled to like different things.
And this isn't really a valid point, but I do make it anyway, I get N64 games for free. =3 Though, Playstation emulators don't usually work for me.
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I'm sorry, I seem to have misworded a previous post to imply that the DS is a failure and that nobody has ever found any game interesting? Of course people are entitled to like different things.
Not quite, more that you were implying that the DS was bad for being tanked with N64 remakes and claim it uninteresting, yet promote the PSP readilly, which has more retro collections, ports, remakes and rereleases than original titles, and decent pre-existing franchise. In other words you were saying the DS has the exact same promblem that the PSP has, yet advise others to get it the latter because of one or two games that are really nothing new. That's how I read it anyway, sorry if you didn't mean otherwise.
And yes, on the internet, everything is free. 😛
Edit: Heh, sorry all, didn't mean to make this into a little debate.
Console wars are for GA, people!
And a lot of preexisting franchises that I care about have games for or are planning games for the PSP, so that helps.
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Jin, go get yourself a copy of LocoRoco or Gitaroo Man, and then tell me your PSP is good for nothing. You will not be able to without being a bare-faced liar.
Got 'em. I haven't been playing video games for 20 years of my life and I'm not just in the gaming industry (albeit, small), for no reason.
Out of all my systems, my PSP gets the least amount of play. Hell, if you want, I will name out what I've got.
EDIT: Not only that, actually, but Stacy imported Gitaroo Man WAY before the US release was even ANNOUNCED. So booya, to that.
PS2: Amplitude, Beatmania, Beyond Good & Evil, Castle Shikigami 2, Castlevania: Lament, DDR Max 1, DDR Max 2, DDR: Extreme 1, Devil May Cry 1, 2, 3, Disgaea, Dragon Quest 8, EQOA, EQOA: F, Everything or Nothing, FFX, FFXII, Frequency, Guitaroo Man, God Hand, God of War 1, 2, Grandia III, GTA: SA, Guilty Gear Isuka, Guilty Gear Isuka Beta, Guilty Gear X2, GH, GH2, GH 80's, Gungrave, Gungrave OD, Headhunter, ICO, In the Groove, Katamari, Killer 7 (worst game ever), KH1, KH2, Mad Maestro, MGS2, MGS3, MK: Shaolin, Odin Sphere, Okami, Onimusha 1, 2, 3, PaRappa 2, PSU, Phantom Brave, R-Type Final, Ratchet & Clank 1, 2, (need 3), Red Dead Revolver, Rez, Sega Classics Coll, Sega Superstars, Shadow of the Colossus, Shinobi, Sphinx, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Legendia, Twisted Metal Black, We <3 Katamari.
GCN: Alien Hominid, Animal Crossing, Bust-A-Move 3000, Chaos Field, Cubivore, Eternal Darkness, FZero, Ikaruga, I-Ninja, LOZ Collectors, LOZ Ocarina 64/DD, LOZ WW, MGS: Twin Snakes, Metroid Prime 1, 2, PSO, Pikmin 1, 2, Pokemon Box, Pokemon Colosseum, Puyo Pop Fever, RE, RE4, Skies of Arcadia, SA: DX, SA2: B, Sonic Gems, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Riders, Star Fox: Adventures, SW Rogue Squadron II, III, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Monkey Ball 2, Smash Brows, Viewtiful Joe 1, 2, Zoocube.
Xbox: Conker, DDR Ultramix 1, 2, Demon Stone, ESPN NFL2k5, Evil Dead: Boomstick, Fable: Lost, GTA 3, GTA VC, Guilty Gear X2 #Reload, Halo 1, Halo 2, Headhunter: Redemption, Indigo Prophecy, Jade Empire, Magic: The Gathering, MLB 2k6, Metal Arms, MGS2, Midnight Club 3, MK: Armageddon, MK: Deception, Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon, PSO, Prince of Persia 1, Psychonauts, Pump it Up (crap), Sega GT/JSRF, Shenmue 2, Silent Hill 4, Sonic Mega Collection, SW: KOTOR, SVC Chaos, Toe Jam & Earl III, Tomb Raider Legend, Ultra Bust A Move, Xyanide.
XB360: Crackdown, Dead Rising, Dirt, Earth Defense Force, Gears of War, Guitar Hero 2, Hitman: Blood Money, PGR3, Tomb Raider: Legend, Viva Piata
Wii: DBZ 2, LOZ: TP, Mario Strikers (hell yeah), RE4, Sonic Rings, Super Paper Mario, WiiSports
DS: Animal Crossing, Bust A Move DS, Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin, Daigasso! Band Brothers (JP), Elite Beat Agents, Electroplankton (JP), Feel the Magic, Hotel Dusk, Kirby: Canvas Curse, Lunar, Mario Kart DS, Meteos, Metroid Prime, Nanostray, DS Browser, Nintendogs, Ouendan, Ouendan 2, Phoenix Wright, Phoenix Wright 2, Pokemon Diamon, Pokemon Mystery, Pokemon Pearl, Polarium, RE: Deadly Silence, Rub Rabbits, Scurge, Sonic Rush, Super Mario, Super Mario 64, Super Princess Peach, Tetris DS, Trauma Center, Viewtiful Joe, Warioware, Yoshi's Island 2, Zookeeper.
PSP: Death Jr, Gitaroo Man, LocoRoco, Lumines, Me & My Katamri, Megaman: Powered Up, PaRappa, Ratchet & Clank, Sega Genesis Collection, Tales of the World, Twisted Metal, Ultimate Block Party, Wipeout Pure.
Dreamcast: over 90+ some odd games, all in a folder. Don't feel like reading through those, (yes, about 60 over those are burned; yay lack of $ high school days).
For proof, have some pics!
So yeah, I know what I'm playing. I know what sells, what doesn't; PSP is kinda... well, systems are selling well, games are not. It's like people buy it, go "YAY!", turn around, go to the PSP games section, and go "... awe".
Same with the PS3.
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It's like people buy it, go "YAY!", turn around, go to the PSP games section, and go "... awe".
That's me, baby. [/Zoidberg]
Thank God for custom firmware.
I wionder if the fact that you have relatively no good games compared to the DS is as much a reason as the implied "PSP sucks" in there. I also have a DS and a PSP, and I feel almost total reverse: I rent a lot of handheld games, so my handheld collection is rather misleading in terms of what I've exposure to, and if I posted it, it'd pretty much pale in comparison to that anyway. But I can say that on average, I enjoy my PSP's games more than my DS's, and the fact that the DS rack usually has more games doesn't mean it has more games that I want to play (again, this is a matter of taste and opinion.)
I already suggested MGSPO; it's truly a good game, especially for a handheld, and I personally recommend the Ac!d series, though don't expect the usual plotwise or gameplay, it's a pretty fun series on its' own.
Also Ace Combat X is a very solid title for a handheld; and I've heard great things about Field Commander and the PSP Killzone. There are a few others, but I can't be assed to look at the moment.
Whoa...excuse me, Jin, but is that an opened Ken[from SF not Barbie of course lol] action figure...AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SHELF!? Coolness points have depleted entirely. XP
Just to give PSP some credit, I do love the PSP, it's a great piece of hardware and even though there aren't many original titles, the retro selection is really what I bought it for.
However, the DS promises me more games I can relax with, which is what I mostly do when gaming nowadays, and Animal Crossing is just the best game to relax with. What's more, Another Code/Trace Memory and Touch Detective were very enjoyable, the latter was a lot of light hearted fun, humour, and great art work, the former was very engaging. I still need to get Pheonix Wright 1 and 2, Hotel Dusk and Trauma Centre, as well as waiting for Touch Detective 2 1/2 and Lifesigns.
To put it plainly, the simplicity of the DS and the lack of power requires developers to be more creative in how they can make their games more engaging, intuitive, and still look good. I think it's a great system for story driven games to flourish. The PSP, sadly, is too familiar a ground for developers to think outside the box, with almost PS2 quality graphics and sound (I absolutely love the screen) and a standard control setup, it's being treated similarly to the Gamecube; not enough big games, not enough developers wanting to make something special, and losing out to a lower spec system.
I'm glad there are games like Locoroco on it, and I love that loads of PS1 RPGs and other games that I missed are/will be on it, but there's not enough of the former and too much of the latter...it's a great system, and it does have some great games, but I couldn't recommend it to a friend.
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OMG Monty Python 😀 I shall now love you forever!
Retro collections and halfassed (yet full priced) rereleases of two-gen-old-games are not the same thing.
Though, if you wnat retro gaming on a PSP, emulator is better.
Let's not start another one. 😛
I only emulate games I can't get whatsoever, otherwise I'll buy the game if it's released. When I can I intend to buy Powerstone Collection, Darkstalkers Chronicles, Valkyrie Profile, Final Fantasy Tactics, and maybe Street Fighter Alpha 3 Maxx (though I doubt that.) I also already have Tales of Eternia.
Reasons? They're available easily, I can't get my Dreamcast to work properly, Darkstalkers is hard to get anywhere else in good condition and I love the first one, and the RPGs listed were never released in Europe previously. All of which makes the PSP options much better, and I've never really liked emulation on my PC, even now I can hook up my PS2 pad, I don't find it enjoyable.
I know about MGS. Acid stinks. If I want to play YuGiOh, I'll play YuGiOh or Magic or whatever. Port Ops is where it's at. I'm currently awaiting the re-release.
My problem is I trade a lot of my stuff in. The PSP has my HIGHEST turn around trade-in rate, and it's laughable. In fact, the same goes for my store, and much of my fellow managers in my district. The PSP has the lowest sell rate compared to everything else, an average trade-in rate, and an even lower used-sales rate. It's hideous. Most PSP sections are in shambles just because we have so many and no room for them.
You're right though. It's a great system. It can do so much. But not even a handful of developers are doing anything for it. Sony's even admitted to it, so your argument is pretty much moot on that.
Emulator arguments have no merit since, y'know, they are not legit and that's not what the system is for.
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I wionder if the fact that you have relatively no good games compared to the DS is as much a reason as the implied "PSP sucks" in there.
The games are mine, I just let him use them. Actually, he does own MegaMan.
No good games? That's a pretty subjective statement right there, though I do realize that there are a lot out there that I haven't played yet. Which brings us to...
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I already suggested MGSPO; it's truly a good game, especially for a handheld, and I personally recommend the Ac!d series, though don't expect the usual plotwise or gameplay, it's a pretty fun series on its' own.
Portable Ops is damn good. However, I'll happily wait for the release of Plus, or the slight chance that the 20th Anniversary pack comes stateside. As for Acid, I'll pass. I've worn myself out on tactical games, and I still have a bunch I've yet to finish.
I've already owned/sold Field Commander, and never really cared for the KillZone or Ace Combat franchises. Jin'd probably be more likely to try those out.
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OMG Monty Python
Also mine. Your love is misdirected. 
In fact, I don't think he's seen but two or three episodes ever (or The Meaning of Life, as you so quoted)--something I fully intend to change soon.
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is the greatestgame eveeeeeeeeeeer
*screams it whilst falling off of a cliff*
....eveeeeeeer <3
Haha well Saffronic...I do amend you on your faithfulness.
No good games? That's a pretty subjective statement right there,
While it certainly is a matter of taste, there is a point where saying a game is good because you enjoyed it doesn't mean the game is good, and the opposite: It's like halo haters, or MGS haters, or [insert popular game here] haters. Just because you don't like it in particular doesn't make it a bad game. They're still good games, they just aren't to your taste. When I said there are few good games, I mean good in terms of quality, not good in terms of how a single person finds them in entertainment. I don't find, say, Guitar Hero entertaining, but I'm not saying it's a bad game: I'll admit that it seems to be a good game. Anyway, in terms of that list, there are far more solid titles for the DS in the list than there are PSP games at all, os I point that out to ask if the fact that there are tons more DS games available to you is a main reason the DS sees more use.
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While it certainly is a matter of taste, there is a point where saying a game is good because you enjoyed it doesn't mean the game is good, and the opposite: It's like halo haters, or MGS haters, or [insert popular game here] haters. Just because you don't like it in particular doesn't make it a bad game. They're still good games, they just aren't to your taste. When I said there are few good games, I mean good in terms of quality, not good in terms of how a single person finds them in entertainment. I don't find, say, Guitar Hero entertaining, but I'm not saying it's a bad game: I'll admit that it seems to be a good game. Anyway, in terms of that list, there are far more solid titles for the DS in the list than there are PSP games at all, os I point that out to ask if the fact that there are tons more DS games available to you is a main reason the DS sees more use.
Perhaps that would be better directed at Jin, as I never said anything about the games I didn't care to play as "bad" games. I agree with you on that part.
Especially since I never compared my use of the DS vs. the PSP either. Though, for the record, I do in fact use the DS more--personally I do a lot of quick pick-up and play stuff recently, and the DS has a lot more of that.
Ah, that's the thing. I hate pick up and play. If I'm in the mood to game, I'm in the mood to game for at least an hour, not five minutes here, four minutes there, etc.
Though, what I like about the PSP in that respect, ist hat when you turn it off, and turn it back on, it goes right back to the point in the game you were at.
The DS does that too SX... It's called closing the lid >>
That leaves it on, but in sleep mode.
That kills the battery after af ew days. And a few days is assuming max charge, which, if you wree playing it, it's probably not at anyway.
The DS can last a week or so in sleep mode on a full charge. I downloaded a Puzzle League demo around last Wednesday and I've been keeping it in sleep mode since. The battery light is still green.
Hmm, my DS battery must be weak, because mine averages a few days.
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Ah, that's the thing. I hate pick up and play. If I'm in the mood to game, I'm in the mood to game for at least an hour, not five minutes here, four minutes there, etc.
**insert crack about the PSP's short battery life here**
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Though, what I like about the PSP in that respect, ist hat when you turn it off, and turn it back on, it goes right back to the point in the game you were at.
Yeeeeeeeeah... that's Sleep mode. Actually turning it off (you know, holding the switch up a few seconds before release?) would erase all progress made since your last in-game save. Because you turned it off. Yeah.
Does it go right back to the game?
And no, my PSP plays just fine, though it depends on the game. GTA and such tends to have shorter life than say, MGAC!d. Thoughgranted, it sure as hell won't win any awards for battery life.
Does it go right back to the game?
Yes. The DS goes to sleep mode when you close the lid, and when you open it back up, it takes you right back where you left off, just like the PSP. Yes, it drains the battery, but that's because, you know, it's technically still on.
Same with the PSP. When you flip the switch real quick, it goes into sleep mode, holding your last position in place. If you HOLD UP the switch, you actually TURN OFF your system. If you've never turned off your system, you are killing your system, and in turn, battery, since it is constantly running.
Start turning it off, or expect either your battery to stop holding a charge soon, or the system not sending a charge to your battery anymore. Next to bricked systems, this is the next big issue why I see PSPs come back with a "what's wrong with my PSP? I only bought it 4 months ago".
Yeah, kid. TURN IT OFF!
And about what Stace said, yeah it's got lots of casual games, but it's also got a lot of kick ass gaming games. Again, Mario 64, New Mario, Castlevania's, Metroid Prime, Nanostray, Kirby Canvas, Phoenix Wright, etc etc.
Of those, only Phoenix Wright has much interst to me. This is a matter of taste, mind you.
That Castlevania doesn't interest you is somewhat concerning. Out of curiosity, were you interested in the PSP outing...?
Also, it's great fun to use old game consoles, but then, the experience can be somewhat infuriating.
No, the series just doesn't hold much interest to me. It's style and the genre and the gameplay, it's just not what I'm in the market for, and that's that. 😛
