http://www.joystiq.com/20...igns-pro-ip-act-into-law/
http://www.joystiq.com/20...he-pro-ip-act-and-gaming/
Permanently. That also includes confiscating file transfer devices like flashdrives as well.
"The impact to the consumer is obvious. The simple fact of the matter is that I doubt there is a consumer anywhere in the US who has never downloaded or otherwise acquired a single thing in violation of someone's copyright. What this now means is that, for consumers, more or less anything that has come into contact with that pirated item can be seized by the government. The statute is worded in such a broad manner that it would be theoretically possible to seize all of the computers in a home or office if one pirated MP3 or piece of software was present. More importantly, the penalties have changed so that individual elements are now imputed as works. For example, before it was considered to be downloading a 'work' to download an entire CD. Now, each individual track would be considered a 'work,' so one CD is now ten or more times the penalty that it once was. Similarly, if you copied a magazine with 100 photographs in it, you would now be liable for each copywritten photograph and article separately."
Hmmm, impressions so far on it: That seems way too harsh.
More impressions later.
Man individual elements could be considered works, meaning more penalties. lolwhat?
$25 says it gets struck down under Unwarranted Search & Seizure (Moreso the seizure part)
My biggest question would be, where will they keep all the confiscated computers? o_o
srsly though, I'm not that worried to be honest. How exactly are they going to enforce something like this? Americans aren't the only ones who download things, y'know :3 ...and under this rule, I could technically have my computer seized for downloading the script for Evita, which my teacher provided me with so I could write my essay that I needed for class... They'd be getting rid of a lot of computers... and computers aren't all that cheap; poor college students like myself can't afford to replace them, y'know? Especially with the way the economy's going right now....
Anyway, I'm rambling. That's all great and such that Bush signed the article. I'm gonna go find me a torrent for the latest Heroes ep now.
~Shadowed Spirit Sage
Cut the head and the beast shall die.
The law enforcement should, now as it always should have, target the content providers, not those who download.
There's no financial gain of a person spending hours seeding a torrent file, besides personal glory. Half the time a simple e-mail to the provider is enough to down the file, anyway, but if they're so concerned, go after the ones uploading then there shall be nothing to downl-
Oh.
Right.
America can't really prosocute The Pirate Bay runs under Swedish law which dictates that linking to content without directly hosting it is not illegal.
The only way they'll be able to attack the content providers as a whole would be to get the UN or Interpol to enforce a worldwide internet law.
But... you know, they're busy with that Isreal thing, keeping terrorism down and... protecting human rights to give a crap about protecting a small loss from corperate pockets.
So bully people into not downloading, great idea. It's not like half the kids of the modern generation have even the slightest indication of the moral and legal implications of watching YouTube episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh or downloading Beyonce's latest song.
Data is data to them and anything which isn't tangible and can be spread across to everyone without hastle, cost or effort, is of course going to be the action they take.
Thusly, the only way to prevent people from downloading, besides signing a law which most everymen wont even know about until the Dethklok mercanary squad are busting into their house, would be to heavily and forcibly advertize it in a way most people cannot ignore, both online and reality.
Which would cost megabucks.
Which would WASTE megabucks, which America doesn't really have right now.
Thusly. As much as I disagree with rampant piracy, I haven't seen evidence of it effecting any industry enough to warrant the amount of time, effort, resources and money this law would require, especially as it's nothing more than a scare tactic for a problem they don't have control over (I would say this is akin to a war on drugs which focuses 95% on busting addicts and users while ignoring dealers and providers). I think it's stupid and hopefully wont be enforced.
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Well this certainly seems interesting.
Well this certainly seems interesting.
It doesn't seem as interesting as it does stupid and superfluous, in my opinion.
its an odd idea considering that the chances are that every person on this forum would be lacking a computer if they could enforce it fully.
Wouldn't a fine make more sense than confiscating somebody's computer? I mean what if I use a $5 computer from 1995 that has a bunch of pirated stuff on it. Though that would already be depressing...
Also, I remember when I pirated for the first time. Everytime I heard sirens I checked for cops pulling up in front of my house.
The funny part is that those sirens were actually me driving by using the police siren I bought at Trader Joe's
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back on topic, a fine would be nice and all but the single fine hasn't exactly been working out for them, us being a testament to their failure.
They can take my computer from my cold dead hands.
When I pirated for the first time I did not give a @#!@ you are a pansy kio.
I was 8 years old
why would an eight year old do such immoral things?
I was downloading sonic music 
pfft even interpol downloads sonic music.
"The law enforcement should, now as it always should have, target the content providers, not those who download. "
I think that's who this law was designed for (the providers). It was probably designed to give teeth to the anti-piracy laws, at least that's what I gathered when I read over the bill summary.
Sagey :O Why dun you watch it on NBC.com/Heroes? Lemme not get started on Heroes... I'm liable to explode. Why the hell isnt there a thread for it?
On topic: Stupid law. Craig explained perfectly, and also, if they really wanted to enforce this law, they'd be wasting money that neither candidate would support after Bush gets punted in the next few weeks. Something like this will take the backburner so hard it'll be found by our descendants thousands of years down the line and laughed at to showcase our stupidity-and then it'll be available for dow--
hey wait. Is that document available for download? XD!??!?!? Let's tempt fate, Arthur Petrelli style 
