Do you mean that literally or as a generalization, or in a country other than USA?

Yeah, I've seen this. It was posted in GBS in the SA forums earlier this week. Pretty horrendous. I lost it when I heard the dog yelping and crying when it got shot. Stacy lost herself to tears when they heard the four extra shots or whatever after wards and then silence.

For not even over a GRAM of weed. Apparently it was after a warrant was issued for that guy on a tip that he was a huge seller. Yet you look at the house inside, it's just a regular house. He wasn't growing it, there were no secret compartments, he had what looked like two kids, and his other dog was a corgi, which apparently was also shot but not killed.

Need I repeat that this guy only had a "few grams" of weed. GRAMS, people.

I don't smoke it. I don't condone it. I never intend to smoke it. But it is the safest drug to consume at leisure, safer than alcohol. Legalize this crap already, please. Too much idiotic bloodshed and spent tax dollars on useless, useless crap.

Here comes my phrase!   American Morality.   Same thing that makes kids watching babies getting shredded fine but kids watching porn a crime.  It's NOT about whats safer or what MAKES SENSE, it's about what people perceive as "acceptable".   And what will get the elected officials re-elected.

Legalize it.  You obviously don't care about innocent people getting killed by others driving under the influence or else you'd ban Alcohol that COINED the phrase.  So I say tax the crap outta it and use the tax dollars to try to help the victims of it and the other legal drugs people take before slamming into packed school buses. 

And shooting Corgi's should carry a death penalty under ANY circumstances.  I have one.  They're about as threatening and dangerous as Yorkshire Terriers.

Also?  I don't smoke the junk, made my staff quit too as we instituted drug testing. 

~Tobe

Here's my theory. I think that the US illegalized marijuana just on the premise that it was a drug, without really getting the facts, and then they realized they made a boo-boo. Then, instead of legalizing it and just admit they were wrong, (because it would embarrass them,) they just convinced people it was a harmful drug and moved on with their lives.

As evidence to back up my theory, a new "drug" was being sold at some convenience store or something that was strikingly similar to pot, but supposedly made from a different plant. (called K2, I think) Police checked it out. They said it was fine. People asked them, "What makes it different from pot; what makes it healthy, whereas marijuana is not?" and they simply replied, "it's all natural."

Ehm, last time I checked, weed comes from plants....

Legalize it.  You obviously don't care about innocent people getting killed by others driving under the influence or else you'd ban Alcohol that COINED the phrase.

As I pointed out in this thread, the apparent distinction made is that a ban on alcohol couldn't be enforced, which begs the question as to how effective they think the ban on cannabis has been...

As for the supposed harmlessness of Corgis, how were they supposed to know about that, let alone recognize the breed of dog as a Corgi with how dark it was when they broke in? I know little to nothing about dog breeds, but it's semi-understandable that officers expecting a prepared drug dealer heard barking and didn't want to take any chances. I'd point the blame at whoever signed that search warrant in the first place; the whole justification for the search warrant turned out to be false, and part of the point of requiring warrants before conducting searches is such that those who sign them would be held accountable for the consequences. (See 3 minutes in)

Basically, my stance is as follows: I don't smoke marijuana. I disagree with the practice, and think it's stupid. But in a free society, you are free to be stupid if you want. And if you hurt anyone WHILE being stupid, you get severely punished. Period.

Given that the effects of alcohol and smoking are arguably more dangerous than that of marijuana...logic (and an appreciation for individual liberty) demands legalization. After all, it's not the duty of the government to be your nanny.

After all, it's not the duty of the government to be your nanny.

And yet, apparently, it's perfectly fine for them to open fire on one small pet dog...funny how the world turns, eh?

Crap like this makes me sick, to be honest - kids with guns, plain and simple. There was NO threat from the dog there - None!

After all, it's not the duty of the government to be your nanny.

And yet, apparently, it's perfectly fine for them to open fire on one small pet dog...funny how the world turns, eh?

Crap like this makes me sick, to be honest - kids with gus, plain and simple. There was NO threat there - None!

Wait... what?

Anyway, like I said, I think the firing on the pet dog was a "don't take any chances with a drug dealer" approach. The search warrant was supposedly given on insufficient evidence, but like I've said, the very arguments FOR keeping weed illegal, let alone for trying to enforce it the way the US does, don't seem to be based on real evidence to begin with. o.o

See edit, MH, See edit. 😛

See edit, MH, See edit. 😛

Ok, that's a little better... but still, what about kids with guns? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say by having that phrase in that part of the post...

American police get to be a little twitchy when firearms are in play - that's all...just a poke at that whole mentality, really.

Ugh, I'm infuriated.  There is no way I'm watching that video, and I've seen a LOT of shock videos.

What's your goon name, Jin?

Yeah, I haven't seen the video either. All the details have been said anyways, I dont see any need to.

Yes, I'm being serious, and I'm talking about the USA. In some places, people who don't smoke have it in their house because their relatives smoke it. In some places, the potential is that high. That includes older relatives, who casually introduce it to the younger generation, which does a very good job introducing it to itsself already.

I don't really see marijuana as dangerous. I see it a lot. I think the people around some places are dangeous, but that's the macho attitude and high amount of routine or unstimulating jobs. I don't think marijuana caused that either, I think it was small minded parents, which also around every in some places: People who have one answer for everything and who abbandon, or shun others who dont share their viewpoint for fear of being hurt by "the force that hurts people who  don't act the same as everyone".