How did Ruby on Rails gets so popular? Is it because you don't need to learn SQL? It's great to learn SQL, there are even mock versions of SQL for accessing web 2.0 data like YML from Yahoo which lets you query for the latest 10 pictures of cats from Flickr or FBQL from Facebook. I've been trying to cram Ruby on Rails knowledge into my brain just because and its turning out it really can only be -just because-.
Does anyone even know what I'm talking about? Ruby on Rails is a server-side language that can replace PHP or ASP (which I don't even know a thing about). My main concern is that it's getting more and more popular and people who know Ruby are being saught after more now, but...
Rails even introduces queer new data types (I don't care if "hashes" already existed) and strange new ways of arranging words and using symbols that no-one needed. What would be awesome is a server-side language that looked like javascript (the way action script for flash and silverlight look like javascript). X__X Can't everything just look like javascript yet? Things seem to be moving that way. And I need some love to be shown for SQL, XML, and XSL (the language for turning XML (a language for defining data) into an html template).
Rails just spits in the face of standards that have been developing for years.
I would like to understand what you're talking about, But I have no idea.
There are different languages for different needs of programming when programming for web development, and some of those languages are even for more things than web development.
So it's a good thing?
No.
Shifty wrote:
No.
It doesn't sound like its doing any harm, They just found a new way to do things and ppl seem to like it in the hoards.
It's a second way to to all the same things that could already be done and it can't replace what it is trying to replace.
Shifty wrote:
It's a second way to to all the same things that could already be done and it can't replace what it is trying to replace.
It sounds inevitable if its so popular.
Can I get some hate please.
Shifty wrote:
Can I get some hate please.
This kinda stuff happens all the time, If you're happy with the old forget the new.
Can I get some hate please.
Hukos, can you report to the front desk?
Psxphile wrote:
Shifty wrote:
Can I get some hate please.
sup
To maybe try stir up some conversation...(even though I work in the opposite end of the IT workforce spectrum and know little of actual programming besides shell scripts, SQL, and HTML, let alone web-app programming. Also, my knowledge of this subject is only limited to Ruby itself, not Ruby on Rails)
Maybe because Ruby itself is a ridiculously easy programming language to pick up? The basic hello world program is simply...
puts "Hello World!"
That, and I noticed that a good majority of Ruby developers I've met tend to only use Ruby and they tend to try to "convert" others into the Ruby way.
I'm not sure how prevalent using Ruby as database is, but I thought that it didn't scale well for that sort of thing?
Personally, it's just another way of doing things. Even if popularity does ramp up, javascript, PHP, SQL, XML, etc. aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
To be quite honest, every webapp that I've used that used RoR tended to have weird issues pop up for me.
Again, not a programmer, it's quite likely that the majority of what I just said was wrong.
Nega X wrote:
That, and I noticed that a good majority of Ruby developers I've met tend to only use Ruby and they tend to try to "convert" others into the Ruby way.
This is every programmer ever. Simply replace Ruby with Java or C++ or C# or...
But, what Shifty said. It's silly to try to do things another way that doesn't work as well when there's an established means that works better, even if it may require a little more learning (although why it would require a bit more to learn, say, SQL or XML is beyond me considering the simplicity of the syntax o_O).
Assembly is where it's at. Am i rite fellas?
::chirpingcrickets::
... I just want attention. *sits in corner*
