Mew-freaking-two. I've complained about Pokemon ever since I turned 12, and yet now, I sit here looking at Mewtwo fanart for the past few hours and pondering fanfic/RP possibilities.
Anyone got advice, opinions, or some "WTF, Mate"s to share with me? It kind of irriates me, seems how I've been anti-Poke for quite a time.
(has a little brother who recently discovered Pokemon)
I don't know. Try not to pester anyone for playing cards? (shot)
As long as its not one of those fanfics where Pokemons and humans are genetically modified with each other. I can't stand those.
Or Mewtwo in love with an original character.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...Mewtwo was the ONLY thing that was remotely cool about Pokemon.
That being said, there is a Poke RP in the RP Guild atm, although it hasn't been modified for some time.
I'm afraid I doubt I'll be joining any though, unless someone can convince me. You're welcome to try lol.
Somewhere on a web page someplace I found pics of a Mewthree once by accident, I don't know if it was fan-created or official, but the pics looked professional. Mewthree is female, apparently.
Oh my word why am I even talking about Pokemon...I hate the thing! ARGH!
Sorry...ignore me I'm wierd.
Wraith
The problem with most pokemon fanfiction is that Pikachu always ends up having sex with Ash. That's not unlikely, but it's still not something to think about on a full stomach.
Just try not to involve any human who ever appeared in the series in any way, shape or form (barring possibly a comedy corpse)
That way, you may be spared...
I imagine Mewtwo must be very lonely. In the first movie (the really bad one), wasn't he the result of a genetic engineering experiment gone wrong or anything?
In any case, he's so hard to find and lives in such a plane of existence beyond other people's that I imagine that he may be super-intelligent and is extraordinarily lonely.
Not a Poke-fan.. don't know if that's canon or not.
Well, it's fanfic. Who cares?
It's a genetic experiment using DNA from mew. It was intellegent in the movie, but in the games I think it was just violent.
Can't be sure though. The first pokemon games didn't really expand as much in the plots they had going on as I would have liked them to.
The only thing I have to say on this subject is:
Mewtwo Pwns in Super Smash Bros. Melee.
That is all.
(BTW, Shouldn't this be in Carny Isle? *shrugs*)
it would get moved to carni if he actually posts the story, but at the moment he's just pondering.
if you do write anything, don't make all the characters forget everything at the end, or find out 'it was only a dream'. i flipping well detest it when that happens as the characters forget all they've done and learnt. xx; *grumbles at that pokemon movie*
I hate it more when Megaman starts every game without all the cool gadgets he got last time. If I were Megaman, I'd shoot Light in the face whenever he tried to "wipe the hard drive".
But back to the topic.
Which is... I forget, something about Pokemon.
Pokemon would definitely not have burned out as fast if the little buggers could talk instead of just saying their names.
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I imagine Mewtwo must be very lonely. In the first movie (the really bad one), wasn't he the result of a genetic engineering experiment gone wrong or anything?
Not gone wrong per say. While he was being developed as an enhanced clone of Mew for Team Rocket, the scientist working on the project was also trying to produce a clone of his deceased daughter (I think the Japanese name was Ai and the clone was Aitwo, and the English name Amber, but I'm not completely sure on that), which caused his wife to leave him. There were a few other clones as well. While they were being created in those typical big liquid-filled stasis tubes, they all managed to hold psychic dialogue together, and Mewtwo and the little girl became friends. She tried to teach him a tiny bit about the world and what they all were. Then, suddenly, the other clones started to die, and thus faded from their little psychic reality. The girl started to fade out too and gave her last words to Mewtwo, who didn't really understand what was going on and started to cry. He became upset and agitated and the scientists monitoring his brain waves or whatever sedated him or something, but as he continued to develope he kept wondering what his purpose in life was and all the lonliness and angsts built up. Eventually when he found out he had been created to be used, he got more pissed off and developed a bit of a superiority/inferiority complex (thinking himself to be so powerful and needing to prove that he, even as a clone, was better than the original). In a way, I guess he's got a bit of a parallel with Shadow going on.
I think his design is pretty neat, and he's really wonderfully animated in SSBM, especially when using items.
If the translation of the original game is accurate, then the scientists on Cinnabar Island discovered Mew in South America, Mew gave birth and they named the child Mewtwo, the scientists performed genetic and DNA splicing experiments on Mewtwo and it became too powerful for them to control and escaped - eventually retreating to the cave in Cerulean City.
It's just, well. The character design keeps striking me as absolutely flawless. Props to whoever designed him. Anyways...
UltraSonic: :/ No interest in playing the cards. Just a character, you know.
Guardian of Destiny: I hate them both too. I asure you it will not suck if I ever do decide to this this. And before that, I'll have to get over the embarrasing factor of this situation.
Wraith the Echidna: That's what I'm saying! I scowl every time someone mentions Pokemon in real life, so I don't quite understand my predicament.
Harley: I've read those when I first discovered fanfiction. I also read them before I discovered porn or had sex ed, so I was confused and scrared at the time. o_O
Xangath Ankor: I would never. That horribly behaved Ash heathen will be conveniantely overlooked.
Troophead: Neither am I. Once again, I confuse myself with the double standard I impose.
Acrio: I always wish they elaborated more with the story.
Wonderbat: Tru dat.
Chibibecca: Horribly cliche endings will be terminated, and yes, the Carni Isle will be my host.
Wonderbat: Hmm. Think how akward it would be today if that happened. It would be an improvement, but I probably still wouldn't play/watch/read Pokemon. Ew, I feel dirty whenever I type that.
Crazy Cham Lea: Never knew about all that snit w/ the girl and such. Only in the comic, I would assume. And I agree completely: the character design is absolutely brilliant and the way he moves in SSBM looks realyl slick.
NOW! As a closing statement. I plan to make it entirely serious and quality work if I do make a fanfic or RP. I'll do a plot outline and tinker with it, and if it's not really good - I mean REALLY good - I won't bother.
Thanks for listens to the Confused Box. I'll be, ah, going now.
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Mewthree art is fanart. <<; *poof*
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Only in the comic, I would assume.
I dunno about any comic. This was all in the first movie. They even translated and dubbed that portion, but cut it out of the final version - maybe they thought it'd be too much for the little kiddies, I dunno. What they didn't cut was the scientist, when talking about how he'd been ordered to research Mew to make the clone, mentioning how he wanted "something much more" from the project - meaning the revival of his daughter. I think it was also the girl who told Mewtwo the story about how Pokemon tears could cause miracles or whatever, hence the ending to the movie.
In the comic (Pokemon Adventures/ Pocket Monster Special at least), Mewtwo was an unfinished creation made of Mew's DNA copied onto a disk and also of Blaine's genetic data sleeping in a giant tube for over half of the Red-Green-Blue arc.
You people know a lot to claim to hate it so much. XD! Yeah, I'm constantly brainstorming right now. If I do do anything it'll be an RP.
Where did I say I hated Pokemon? I enjoyed some of the games and character designs. I never got into the rabid fanticism though.
BTW, cute sig. =P
Thanks... I've been playing SH2 and SH4 for the XBox a lot lately. Great games, them. I've pondered an SH4 RP for a while now as well.
Why bash pokmon? The new series aren't that great at all, but the original games kick many buttocks.
I, too, have a strange attraction to Mewtwo.
Wait.
<_<...>_> I didn't say anything.
Huh, didn't know about the stuff they had cut out from the first movie - but yeah, that was the most annoying part of the movie, made it feel like there wasn't any point in watching it in a way.
As for Mega Man restarting over and over, and I know that's off-topic, but the same thing happens in almost any continuing series. But the best one had to be in Mega Man Legends 2, where the explanation was given for why all his cool weapons were gone: Roll had sold them all to pay for the upgrade to their ship! Best explanation I've ever seen for it. I guess the only thing that can be said is that if they always came up with an explanation for why, it might get tiring to players, and we can already see that with the Metroid Prime series.
I only got into the Pokemon series because of the cartoon initially, then beat the games up to the current generation. But as years have gone by, my imagination with the series has waned, as has my desire to write fan fics. Made a killer water deck for the card game though with the original Gyarados, though, back when the cards first came out. Pity that they redid the official card game like that.
See my theory is as follows: Everyone seems to have a curious interestin Mewtwo even if they hate Pokemon because Mewtwo's character design is subconsiously (I stress that...there aren't many who would admit to the consious thought) sensual.
Let's face it, he's curvy, with big hips, lumps on his chest, wears no clothes...ringing any bells?
Now before everyone starts going off on one and calling me mad and daft etc, just think about it. As I said, it's subconcious, but if you think logically about his design you have to admit there is at least the slightest hint of femininnity in there, and attractive femininnity at that.
Whilst I have no doubt that everyone in this room, if questioned, would strongly deny noticing this and indeed would think it rather sick, you've got to think about your subconsious, which you have no control over, and which usually has a very active imagination and works without you knowing about it.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Others may dissagree, and that's up to them, but this is my opinnion.
Wraith
Doesn't that theory rely on the assumption that all the Mewtwo fans are heterosexual males and homosexual females?
I think it's perfectly logical. And it's not even subconscious. Mewtwo has blatant sex appeal; plain and simple. 
He has a very attractive figure, with a waistline and curves. Saying it's odd to be attracted to Mewtwo would be like saying it's odd to be attracted to Shadow, or say Amy or Rouge for the guys. Just because a character isn't human doesn't mean there is no appeal. As long as the character has human qualities that count as sexy, then it's perfectly normal to "ooh" and "aah".
Now, if someone is attracted to coat hangers, there's a strange deal.
You just weirded me out, people... I doubt that was intentional on they're part regardless of the validaty of your statement. Cats are curvy, and have large hip-bones; it's especially noticable when a cat lays down and has their legs curled against their sides. As for the chest lumps, they extened up to, around, and behin his shoulders and appeard to me almost like built-in shoulder pads. So I don't find Mewtwo sexually attractive - I could rephrase that to make the point blunter.
The reason I'm interested in the character is because he looks too damn cool. Very original, stylish character design. Well developed personality - the superiority complex usual only appears in very minor characters. Usually even villians just want to blow something up or take over the world. Mewtwo just wanted to put it like this: I own, you suck. Shut up and die.
I like him the same reason I like Elites or most people here like Sonic or Shadow or whoever. They're cool.
Then again, there's some people here...
Agreed, cats can be sexy, like Arcanine is sexy. But I think there are different kinds of sexy. Cats are sexy-beautiful, while Mewtwo is sexy-attractive. The difference between cats and Mewtwo is that cats are purely cats, but Mewtwo is humanoid. Like saying an iPod is sexy, and saying Shadow is sexy. Two different kinds of sexy.
I think I'm overusing that word. XD Any synonyms?
What I meant is that Mewtwo wasn't mean to have sexual appeal - those are natuaral features of cats in any case.
Lessee...
Mewtwo and Persion are both based off of cats. They can both be defined as being sexy. But Persion isn't the kind of sexy where you just stare at a picture and drool for a while. Mewtwo is. XD IMO, the type of sexiness all comes down to whether the character is humanoid or not.
Forgive me if I just repeated myself. ;___; It's late, and I need sleep.
Mewtwo and Persion are both based off of cats. They can both be defined as being sexy.
No. No, they can't.
But Persion isn't the kind of sexy where you just stare at a picture and drool for a while. Mewtwo is.
No. No, it isn't.
In my honest opinion, curves or not, Mewtwo is a LOT more masculine as opposed to feminine. The manly scowl, the buff pose... It's all very male-like.
And let it be known, that Cycs' current sig is one of the few things I've ever seen on the internet that actually made me snort while laughing... =P
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So I don't find Mewtwo sexually attractive - I could rephrase that to make the point blunter.
But that's the exact point I made Box...consiously you may think it's just crazy and stupid, but what about your subconcious, which you have no control over and son't even know about, influencing your judgements?
And as for his design, seriously, take out the head with that scowl, and I challenge anyone on this board to look at a pic of Mewtwo and say there is not the slightest hint of femmininity in his design.
When I first saw the character, I thought he was female! It was only afterward, hearing various sources calling him "he" that I realised he was actually male!
And you don't have to say that everyone is homosexual to support the theorey, because they aren't even aware of it. That's my point, this attraction is subconsious...you don't even know it's there, but it is, and it influences your judgements.
Wraith
Well he does something to my subconcious. I don't know what, but it's something. I don't really like pokemon, but I find Mewtwo intriguing. Probably for the same reasons that I like Shadow; they are practically the same character. Hmm...a fic in which those two were to meet would be interesting...
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Saying it's odd to be attracted to Mewtwo would be like saying it's odd to be attracted to Shadow, or say Amy or Rouge for the guys.
It IS Odd.
If you find animals (cartoon animals, no less) Sexy,
then go find yourself a reeeeal good therapist right now.
Now, onto Mewtwo's design.
I really don't think he looks feminine at all, and consciously or unconsciously, I don't think one can really find him attractive because he's so far from human.
And as for the 'curvy' thing, no he isn't. His upper boddy is really rather jagged, what with his chest armor and all (I would say that that suggesting his armor is sexy would be like finding an armadillo sexy, but given your previous comments, you probably DO.)
Then you come to his arms, which are far out of proportion, and again, rather angular, until you get to hid hands, which are just three circles, no "sexiness" there either.
Then his hips, which you claim make him sexual, aren't. If a girl had hips THAT wide in proportion to her body, I probably wouldn't look at her twice. (Not saying that's bad, that's just my preference.) Then he has a weird tail that curves around his body and up onto his abdomen, thus making it impossible for mewtwo to have genitalia.
So does mewtwo have a "sexy" design, consciously or subconsciously? No.
Do I like him as a character? Sure.
He's a power-hungry lunatic, like Sephiroth or Shadow.
Plus I like the way he's animated ad designed as a burly, powerful character, not as a "sexy" one.
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If you find animals (cartoon animals, no less) Sexy, then go find yourself a reeeeal good therapist right now.
I think we're talking about two different uses of the word "sexy" here. I don't think he means that Mewtwo is sexually attractive...
Like today I was watching the Discovery Channel, and they were talking about sports cars, and one of the words they used to describe a Ferrari was "sexy." Does that mean the commentator wanted to literally hump the car?? I would hope not. It was more a description of the feeling of power, grace, beauty, and confidence that the car instills.
Dictionary.com backs me up on this... one of the definitions of the word sexy is:
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Slang. Highly appealing or interesting; attractive: The recruiting brochures are getting sexier (Jack R. Wentworth).
Mewtwo would fit that definition, not:
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Arousing or tending to arouse sexual desire or interest.
I disagree with Wraith in saying that the (former) effect is caused by "feminine" traits. It's really more the power and mystique, not a feminine anatomy, since IMHO Mewto is more lean and compactly muscled than sleek and curvy.
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You people know a lot to claim to hate it so much.
Know Thine Enemy. Heh...
As for Mewtwo being sexually appealing.... wellll, I know when something, when looked at, brings sexual thoughts to any part of my mind. There are ways to tell, which I'm sure I don't really need to spell out.
Mewtwo does not have this effect.
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I know when something, when looked at, brings sexual thoughts to any part of my mind. There are ways to tell, which I'm sure I don't really need to spell out.
My point is that you don't know Xag, since it's your subconsious and you have no control of it or awareness of it.
And I accept some may not share the same view, but as far as I'm concerned that's the reason. We'll just have to agree to differ.
Wraith
But my point is that, even subconsciously,
It is impossible for me to find mewtwo attractive because
I don't find any of his figures attractive consciously.
I objectively picked him apart and found nothing, sorry.
You can go on trying to convince yourself that everyone finds him sexually appealing so it's normal, but I just don't beleive it's true.
My point is that you don't know Xag, since it's your subconsious and you have no control of it or awareness of it.
It's called a wang, okay? It stands up when it's happy. That's how you know.
Everyone: "Well, I don't know what I could possibly find attractive in this pokemon, and my wang doesn't get happy when I look at it, so I definitely don't find it sexy."
Wraith: "Yes you do! You just don't know it because it's in your subconscious! Er, I mean, your sub-subconscious! The one even your wang isn't aware of!"
I'm with Cyc. This topic is rapidly spiralling downward towards Very Wrong^(WTF)/NO. That's the correct mathematical term.
I'm glad someone put a stop to the sexuality issue.
In other news, I can't use Mewtwo in SSBM. He reacts just way too slow for me.
What does Wang mean? XD
Actually, a common misconception people have is that Mewtwo is "slow". Sure, he may have the second-slowest movement speed in the game, but he's got a few moves that can come out fast and catch your opponents off-guard. However, most of Mewtwo's moves are retatively slow to start, but with very little 'lag' afterwards. This is the polar opposite of 90% of Bowser's moves, where he is left vulnerable after attacking. The thing is is that people try to play Mewtwo(Or Bowser for that matter) The same way as you would play Fox or Sheik, and when it Phails, they say the characters suck. Perhaps it is best to liken Mewtwo to Cervantes from SCII- Appears sucky to the eye, but nearly unbeatable in the hands of a master.
I know what you mean - I've seen some people own hard with him. But the way you have to compensate for his lake of traction and his oddball momentum and attack placement is frustrating. Usually, I stick with Dr. Mario and Mario like I normally do.
lol Cyc I didn't say sexuality, I said sensuallity. I didn't mean that people look at Mewtwo and immeadeately have dark thoughts or anything. I simply said that it subconsiously influences you to have a tendancy to like the character more...not nearly intense enough to become sexual or anything.
Like if you look at something you like, say a car, and think "That's nice." Someone mentioned it earlier on (Shoe?) but it seems to have got blown up out of proportion. I didn't mean it like that.
But ya, anywho, that's my take on it, and everyone's had their say, so carry on talking about strategies etc.
Wraith
Oh, you mean sort of like the urban legend that Coca-Cola designed their bottles to look like the female figure so men would be influenced to buy them...
...Both of which are untrue, by the way.
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Actually, a common misconception people have is that Mewtwo is "slow". Sure, he may have the second-slowest movement speed in the game, but he's got a few moves that can come out fast and catch your opponents off-guard. However, most of Mewtwo's moves are retatively slow to start, but with very little 'lag' afterwards. This is the polar opposite of 90% of Bowser's moves, where he is left vulnerable after attacking. The thing is is that people try to play Mewtwo(Or Bowser for that matter) The same way as you would play Fox or Sheik, and when it Phails, they say the characters suck. Perhaps it is best to liken Mewtwo to Cervantes from SCII- Appears sucky to the eye, but nearly unbeatable in the hands of a master.
I agree, playing as Mewtwo requires a different approach. With him you're better off playing defensively, luring the opponent into attacking first, and then dodging/countering.
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since IMHO Mewto is more lean and compactly muscled
Once again, in the vein of how well he's animated in that game, that comment came to mind when looking at Mewtwo's downward throw (in which he slams his tail down on the opponent) - it just looks like something that'd break a person's neck in real life. It's kinda odd how his eyes turn yellow when he gets hit though.
I've been tossing around the idea of trying to draw him for a while now - despite looking like some kind of giant pissed-off purple kangaroo-cat, the design does have neat form to it.
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When I first saw the character, I thought he was female! It was only afterward, hearing various sources calling him "he" that I realised he was actually male!
Just to point out a little point.
Mewtwo is genderless.
... That, plus lack of opposable thumbs may explain why he's so p****ed off.....
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Just to point out a little point.
Mewtwo is genderless.
I would think that's only so far as to make the pokemon unbreedable - a gameplay element. Before they introduced that aspect, pretty much all pokemon were refered to as "it". Considering the voice, I think it's safe enough to refer to the character as male.
But who needs opposable thumbs when you have the psychic power to do almost anything you want? 😛
I think a major reason why he's so popular is because of how powerful Mewtwo was in the first games. Virtually undefeatable, given the right mix of TMs. Even in the next set when Dark-types showed up, Mewtwo could equip Shadow Ball and wipe them out fairly quickly. Not everyone who's into Pokemon has played the games, but for those that have, that may be an element of it.
I personaly avoided relying on Mewtwo or any of the legendaries when formulating my teams in the games for battling other people; I wanted to use Pokemon that were powerful but would still be more like what a trainer could realistically have. Unfortunately, a lack of competition made it hard for me to keep motivated enough to finish up my teams for Stadium 2, though I still unlocked everything. And I did use Mewtwo unashamedly to assist me in getting my Pikachus equipped with Surf. After all, Raichu + Surf = One of the more powerful Pokemon in the entire arena. That and Starmie were my two stars because of their general flexibility, and I had an unusual Sandslash that seemed strong enough to take a full hit of virtually any attack and still survive (I'd say a Blizzard or Hydro Pump could finish it off in one shot, but anything else wouldn't cut it).
I kept up with the cartoon until I left on my mission, and now that I haven't seen it for two years (or much television at all for that matter) I've gotten out of the habit of watching cartoons, period. I was writing a Pokemon fan fic series of a boy who would unwittingly follow Ash around on his Pokemon journey up to the Indigo League, hearing how brave and wonderful he was from the people he had met along the way. I was also planning on investigating Team Rocket's operations some as well, as it's clear that they have their fingers in a lot of stuff, but most of the innovation of my stories was going to be in the characters themselves - I was planning on teaming up two girls with the main character, a brilliant Poison-type trainer who eventually faces the main character at the Indigo League after helping him all along the way, and a reporter who uses Pokemon to help her in gathering news, determined to follow the main character since he keeps running into Team Rocket operations. But I never had the motivation to keep writing the series as I wanted to, probably because the main character was so similar to Ash personality-wise that I decided it wasn't worth it. 'Twas a shame to not use the Poison-type trainer though, I thought her overall design and background were fairly well-done, what with being connected to the Pokemon Technical Institute and Koga's Gym. It was entirely set in the cartoon, too, and explained things like the teleportation system that allowed trainers to capture more than six Pokemon (I'm sure some people wondered why certain trainers seemed to have more than six Pokemon at a time, or why breeders could have more than six).
But anyways...ten points to whatever house you belong to if you read that long ramble. 😛 I'd probably get into raising Pokemon to compete if I downloaded that one online version of the game, but I haven't yet and don't recall the address at the moment.
Man, I do feel a bit left out. I never found Mewtwo sexy, then again, I never really cared for him anyways. Maybe it's that whole angst thing and I'm not such a huge fan of the angst character as I was some 4-5 years back.
I like Mew better. Adorable, cute, and playful. Not to mention in the first movie, it kicked some serious butt.
~Neo
Plus, in Smash Brothers, the way Mewtwo moves is sexy. Watch him float around. Look at him fight and try to tell me it's not beautiful.
And enough with the analyzing of Mewtwo's physique. He's got curves, and that's all there is to it.
