It's sickening!
Now I won't smother the girl or be desperate, but it still doesn't work. I respect women as a human being and they still go after men who belittle them. My mom said that it's good to be a gentlemen. Damn it mom. Out of all the advices you'd given me, that one doesn't work.
*groans*
Any advice?
have you ever thought that its because they don't find you attractive?
Don't start with me man.
And ironically, some girls think I am cute.
then why don't they go out with you? how do you know they arne't lying out of pity?
I think you shouldn't bother changing your personality and becoming an #$!&#)@ just to attract girls.
IMO the keyword here is patience.
How old are you anyway?
Ugh.
I'm afraid all of my knowledge on this subject comes from being a witness to my friend's many relationship mishaps and none of my own experiences, so my opinions and help might not help much. But I'll try.
Let's start with your first line:
Can anyone tell me why the f*** does women go after jerks?
Many times they don't realize the guy's a jerk until after they've gotten themselves involved in a relationship. I know this was true in my friend's case. At first they seem like nice people when they meet a girl, acting all charming and kind. That's what attracts them. Once they're roped in, they start showing their true personality.
Now, this isn't limited to these gender roles, females can be the exact same way, if not worse.
It's sickening!
It is, but it seems life likes to make things like that.
Now I won't smother the girl or be desperate, but it still doesn't work. I respect women as a human being and they still go after men who belittle them.
I don't think they know in their first few meetings if the guy's gonna belittle them or not. At that point they're still trying to develop attraction between each other, so both emphasize their stronger points and are overly nice to each other.
Once they're together, both of their truer colors are shown and in some cases, one tends to be a jerk and puts down the other.
My mom said that it's good to be a gentlemen. Damn it mom. Out of all the advices you'd given me, that one doesn't work.
Being a gentleman is excellent! Don't think it's not - I'm serious when I say we need more people of both genders like that in the world.
People in this age may find too much gentleman-liness to be overwhelming, possibly even intimidating? XD; I don't know how to describe it. Like, if a guy goes out of his way to make a girl feel extra-special a lot, she may feel awkward and... smothered, I guess. She probably wouldn't know what to do in response and end up avoiding the extra attention. Because of course, people in this time don't like to step up and confront situations. Walking away wordlessly is so much easier.
*ahem*
I have no idea if this means anything to you at all, but I hope my slightly-more-than-biased opinion helps you a bit. ^^;
~Shadowed Spirit Sage
Ooh, just a note. Female friend of mine says that she much prefers guys to be macho and not too sweet. A little thoughtless, maybe. She claims it excites her (her words). But this doesn't mean that all girls are like that, of course.
*WHACK*
Of course it's good to be a gentleman. The one piece of advice I'd tell anyone is to be good to women.
Typically jerks are very attractive. If they aren't, it's easier to tell it's not good to be in a relationship with them. Failing to realize it even then means you have self esteem issues and are deeply in love with them for the sole reason that someone so cool once showed an interest in you!
More importantly, V2, aren't you like 12? Stop trying to date people, here are some blocks.
Don't go out with a woman who would willingly go out with a jerk. She's a slut and she'll probably just cheat on you.
Must be the opposite for me... i be a jerk and my girlfriend just shuts me out, but i be nice and junk and she just wants nothing more than that. it get's borring sometimes, so i try to debate things just to get her opinion and she just... leaves. o.o
I'm 19.
Hahaha. I thought you were 12 because I thought I recalled you mentioning it. I didn't make a guess.
Can anyone tell me why the f*** does women go after jerks?
Dunno. I guess no one can untill they go all around the world and poll each and every woman, cuz you see, people think differently.
No offense, but I find this as the stereotype most nerds fall back upon when they can't get a date or anything. If his crush doesn't want to go out with him, well damn, it must be because of those jerks.
Most girls are different.
Apart from those emo b*tches, but let's not get into that today. Different lesson, different lecture.
And ironically, some girls think I am cute.
So you're calling them shallow?
Any advice?
For dating:
Learn about them, be yourself. Make connections. Don't be shy. That's al I can say with the scant informatino you gave me.
For getting laid:
A) Find slut/open girl
B) Find vodka (Not whiskey. That's a guy drink. Chicks dig vodka for some reason.)
C) Introduce element in step B to element in step A
D) Success!
But V2, aren't you like 12? Stop trying to date people, here are some blocks.
The problem with the term "gentleman" is that in my experience it's normally followed by the adjective "clingy".
Hear me out.
You want to buy me stuff and call me sexbunnykitten and return my calls and not beat me? GREAT. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, it never ends there. I don't want someone who thinks I need special treatment. I'm capable of opening doors, pulling out my own chair, and ordering from a menu. I don't want someone who thinks that everytime we have sex we're "making love". I don't need to be told that I'm perfect every five seconds and I certainly don't need someone to pay for every date, every meal, and every little thing I do.
While I certaintly wouldn't suggest that anyone date a real @#%$ or someone who treats them bad, I think that sometimes the gentleman thing gets a bit smothering.
However, according to Geo's point B, I'm a man.
Man if you're trying to ply girls with liquor, there's nothing better to go with than Wine Coolers. They're only like 4% alcohol, but I've seen girls pound back like 20 of those things. It's kind of frightening, really; it's like they have this hardwired mental process wherein flavored sugar-water laced with liquor causes them to lose any and all self-control.
Mmm but yeah what Astrid said about how to act towards women, although some chicks genuinely do need that much attention. Perhaps someday I'll regale you all with tales of an ex-girlfriend of mine who I now refer to only by the ominous name Pancake girl.
However, according to Geo's point B, I'm a man.
If I had a nickle for every time I heard that, I'd have a nickle.
I meant prefer. Yeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Points made in this topic:
- women don't want be fawned over
- the best way to get into a girl's pants is to plow them with drinks
- chivalry is apparently alive and well... somewhere in Texas
Thank you and goodnight.
Like people here REALLY listen to a 14 and take me seousely.
Man and Woman are equal and Woman CAN be Jerks as well as Man.
Like Cycle said - There sluts looking for a tough man or ones with money, piles of it.
If she not paying you the slightist attation, she's not your worth your time. Find some one else.
What I don't agree with is useing Booze to attract woman. But seeing that im 14 and can't (And won't drink) I can't agree or disagree.
A Slut is someone who simply have sex with a another man for plesurement or money, mainly both.
Plus, You don't know who or what they 'got there freck on' with BEFORE you. For all you know, they might have AIDS.
Treat a Woman the way you wanted to be treated. Open a door and pull out a chair for them form time to time- not ALL the time.
PLEASE don't get mad at one woman and think all of us are like that and take your anger on another woman verbly. It's not right.
Sorry if my advice stinks, I tryed.
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Like Clyde said - There sluts looking for a tough man or ones with money, piles of it.
I am calling him Clyde from now on. Anyone else with me?
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I am calling him Clyde from now on. Anyone else with me?
In case you're wondering what's so funny, Candy, it's that it's Cycle not Clyde. His common nickname on here is Cyc just so you know.
My bad, misread his name. The Vector back ground look too bright for my eyes.
I just call him moosejockey.
~Rico
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A Slut is someone who simply have sex with a another man for plesurement or money, mainly both.
Your definition of "slut" is intersing, mainly the part where it states all women are sluts. If women have sex for pelasure that doesn't make them a slut, that's pretty much the only reason you have sex in the first place. I don't think too many women are concerned with a declining population and simply doing their part to maintain the traffic. 
What annoys me is men can have sex just as much as a "slut", but men like that will be regarded as heroes while the female will be regarded as a slut which has negative connotations.
I think slut applies for women who just like to sleep around a lot, while a woman who has sex for money would be a whore/prostitute. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In response to the original poster, I agree that some women fall for these guys who act like total a-holes, and I'll never understand why, but I wouldn't let it change my behaviour. I've had girls be total @#%$ to me for no real reason, so it works both ways.
Sorta off-topic: isn't this a bit Marble Garden-ish?
On-topic: Well, all I can say here is simply a reiteration of what quite a few others have said: not all women are the same. Some actually like the guys who are "jerks", some don't. It's a matter of personal preference.
Take for example: I like quiet-natured women who would rather spend an evening in cuddled up on the sofa watching a film on TV than go out to a noisy club. This is because this is the kind of thing I would rather do. But there are plenty of people male and female who'd find the thought of that dull and would rather go out somewhere more lively. That's just their preference.
From the way you're talking, I'm guessing you're more of the quiet intellectual type, though I could be way off the mark with that. If I'm right though, you're probably after someone not too dissimilar from yourself. So think more along the lines of people who share the same interests as you. Don't just go for someone from their looks (not that I'm saying you are doing). Ultimately, good looks are fleeting. The way someone looks now is not how they'll look when they're 40. =P Though now I'm kinda wandering off-topic. But think about it. If they're the kind of person who's hanging around with a different kind of crowd, are they someone you actually want to try and have a relationship with? Not that I'm condoning social exclusion or anything, but if a firl you're interested in hangs around with people you don't like, chances are you'd end up not liking her either. But anyway, that brings me on to one other thing I wanted to say...
Being a gentleman is definitely not bad advice. Good manners and customs are not only invaluable in interacting with the opposite gender, they're useful for doing so with just about anyone. And let's face it, there are fewer people these days who are kind and polite, aren't there?
Anyway, I can understand your frustration somewhat. But the best advice I have ever been given, and the best advice I can give you, is to be patient. You won't get anywhere by getting all flustered just because someone you like doesn't feel the same about you. I know that's putting it somewhat lightly, but it's true. I'm sure there are women who do want someone like you, so don't get frustrated just because the one you want doesn't want you. That may very well mean there's a much better person for you somewhere else.
Oh, and one other thing. I'm 22 and still single. Believe it or not, it is actually possible to live without being in a romantic relationship with someone. 
~SilverShadow.
You have that right, Astrid. Girls in general don't want to be treated like some kind of goddess (note, I said in general, not all of them).
Advice:
Be confident, be calm. You can tease the girl if you want but don't take it too far. Be on equal standing with the opposite party - both ARE human, after all.
As for why girls go after 'jerks', it's an attraction thing. Do you know what's odd? Sometimes the most contradictory things like NOT answering a girl's phone calls make her call you even more!
There's much more I could say about it, but it'd take forever.
Generally, if you're dating a girl:
Don't cling.
Be cool.
Poke fun.
DO NOT PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
You CAN be cool yet be a gentleman at the same time. You just have to figure out what is best for you. Never treat women like goddesses.
Only stupid women do that, trust me, as a women, I know what you're talking about.
But the right women will respect what you do. The RIGHT one. There isn't alot of decency and dignity in dating nowadays, but it gives alot of women a strand of hope that there are nice guys out there.
I know alot of women that have pretty much given up on finding decent guys. I was lucky and found one.
Patience, grasshopper. It is a virtue, and it will pay off.
I wish you well.
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Your definition of "slut" is intersing, mainly the part where it states all women are sluts.
If women have sex for pelasure that doesn't make them a slut, that's pretty much the only reason you have sex in the first place. I don't think too many women are concerned with a declining population and simply doing their part to maintain the traffic.
What annoys me is men can have sex just as much as a "slut", but men like that will be regarded as heroes while the female will be regarded as a slut which has negative connotations.I think slut applies for women who just like to sleep around a lot, while a woman who has sex for money would be a whore/prostitute. Correct me if I'm wrong.
*I* Think Sex should use only if you gonna have kids and afford to keep the kids.
*I* never said ALL Woman or Man was sluts - Hence the reason i said 'A slut is someone' and not 'All woman are sluts'. Man and woman are EQUAL so Man can be the male version of Sluts also.
Im sorry if that can out rude Spite or ANYONE, Im just trying to fix my mistake of my defination of Sluts. Im go to an all girl Christen school and i do agree with half of the things they say like have you should only have sex after you get married in sex.
I'll shut up now.
The way someone looks now is not how they'll look when they're 40. =P
You want to be with every girl you date untill you're fourty?
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Ultimately, good looks are fleeting. The way someone looks now is not how they'll look when they're 40. =P
Speak for yourself. I'm getting the surgery.
Also I have alot of other problems with this thread such as: quiet and intellectual being almost used interchangably as descriptive adjectives,the idea of anyone being considered a slut, sex used only for procreation and Geo's nickel.
Yes, the thought of Geo having any kind of monetary income is most unsettling.
and Geo's nickel.
Ok, I'm sorry, Astrid =(. There's two types of emo b*tches.
Fat ones and skinny ones.
