Did you watch the Director's cut?

No.

Well theres your problem. The director's cut provides all sorts of texts and info on time travel that make the whole thing more interesting =3

Does it give more depth to shallow occurences in the movie or are the texts interesting just on their own?

All that the directors cut did was make an interesting bit of social commentary turn into the most bullcrap sci-fi story I've ever been subjected to.

Regular version: teacher fighting the apathy of society right now, big icon ended up being a child molestor, drugs can not fix a disfunctional family, people are more willing to ship their problems off then to deal with them themselves... etc etc.

Directors Cut: EVERYTHING IN THIS MOVIE IS FATED AND DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE DONNIE CREATE THE TIME PARADOX!!!

I enjoyed the movie so much until I understood it. Bullcrap universe with bullcrap rules and the only part of the directors cut that made me smile was Kevin Smith destroying Richard Kelly in the audio commentary "YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOUR OWN MOVIE!"

I guess it was boring because I knew about each of those things already!

Eh, *shrugs* I personally now watch it more for the moblin statue.

Hehehe, moblins.

Though I do think the social context > time travel bits. The bits on DC are just interesting to read.

BTW, Where in the bejubus does Donnie gain the strength to embed an axe in a bronze statue?

That's the point of the directors cut. Listen with commentary. Donnie is the vessel chosen to make time travel happen so God's perfect plan can continue unharmed. He is given powers over water and fire to do this.

Everyone in the world has the mission to make sure he does it, as he will be reluctant, which is why Frank kills whatsherface and the teacher writes Cellar Door and all that crap.

It's all fated. NOTHING anyone does is there for any other reason than to make Donnie crash that plane with his psychic powers of chosen one. Cunningham's paedophilia was a ploy to get Kitty to protest to get Donnie's mum to take Sparkle Motion to Washington to let the house be empty for the party which leads Donnie to Grandma Death's house etc.

See, the Vessel is sent through time creating a tangent universe which exists to make that object travel through time. God planed this. God selects Donnie to be the one to do it, so for 28 days the universe is collapsing and he gains powers as the movie goes on, to accomplish this.

The manipulated living are those who live and are manipulated to make Donnie do this.

The manipulated dead are those who die within the tangent world and exist within the forth dimension, Frank is the personification of this.

So, he's not a hallucination or something deep, he's just a dead guy unable to go to heaven trying to get Donnie to end this universe and save the real one.

It's bullcrap.

I know all THAT Craig, that's all fine and good. And I quite like the predestined thing, though I perfer the school interaction, particularly the shove it up my anus line, it's fun.

What I don't get is how Fire/Water pertains to having the strength to put an axe through bronze. He never exibts any other super strength, except against the moblin. Was he channeling link or something? The pipe I can understand cutting through fine, but sinking it in the statue's head seemed a bit odd to me.

Kelly explains it himself in the DVD Commentary, apparently he gets super powers. That's about the size of it.

Huh, that's what I get for never listening to the commentry. Why doesn't he use them other times though?

I think I'll have to go check on the master emerald to find that out.

I liked the movie overall, though I do admit some (most XP) of the stuff in there is pretty ridiculous. I have adopted the term "tangent universe" for some of the role-play/time-travel stuff I do now, though, cuz I like the sound of it. I won't try to convince it's good, since there's not enough evidence to do so XD

It's an all right movie, it's just overrated as a brain f**k. It's nbto at all, you can understand everything after like 4 minutes of discussion.

Now a great(best?) Social and mental commentary movie is The Wall.

Shame few understand it.

Quote:

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Donnie thinks you're boring, too, Acrio.

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Sorry. I know it's overused. But who cares?

Well Donnie's DEAD

Holes is an absolutely awesome movie that is so similar to the book that the screenplay was credited to the book's author. So that explains why screenwriters *(&^ up books, so they get credit. The original screenplay to Holes by the writer of Donnie Darko was some postapocalyptic crap that was nothing like the book. I wondered how the writer of a movie so many people rave about would do something so stupid, but maybe he's not a good writer.

I despised Holes. That's probably because it was a book.

Holes is awesome. o.o @ Acrio

Mmmmmmm.... Holes

That's preposterous, it looked like a book to me.