Be glad that you have the memories. The memories and the people I care about are the only things that keep me going here, personally. I don't care much for Sonic anymore, and I'm not the roleplayer I once was. But, I still enjoy posting here, even though it's not really as fun as it used to be.

Times change, and people do, too. Not everyone is going to stay the same forever--people grow apart, and mature. Thus is life. As with life, things also are born, go through childhood, adolescence, adulthood, then slow down, and eventually die. I'm not saying I want the MoFo to die, but it does seem as though it's in the latter stages of life in this sense.

Not quite sure what I was rambling about, but there you go.

I.. I still have fun here. o.o
Actually, I'm having more fun than I used to, because I've become a more active member.

ezhack didn't make as much of a difference as you imply and the biggest impact it had was on the guild. also, my spam has nothing to do with it{neither does your obsession with me}

I think you just expect Craig to paradox and Acrio to pretend to be different genders ad so forth for the rest of their lives. People change, the forummers have changed from way back then, and they continue to do so (Not me though, I never change). Some people have left for their own reasons, and I know we haven't had many new people joining up to replace them, but that's because SHQ isn't updating regularly, SEGA are screwing the sonic series up, something you can do nothing about. And as this message board is a Sonic the Hedgehog message board, that's really the only way people are going to vist and stay here.

The Ezhack had very little to do with activity slumping, almost everybody came back after it. I guess people would think of 03-04 as golden days because that was when the MoFo was showcased on Ez, causing nearly 500 daily posts, and the anticipation of the release of Sonic Heroes and Sonic Battle. After said games were released, I guess that's when things started to slump because of the disappointment of those games, as well as the fact that SHQ was hardly updated with the info on it. hus we just aren't getting the new people we used to, and older, more well known forummers are fading out, leaving other older forummers feeling out of place, and left feeling the MoFo is losing it so to speak.

And I think I'm done.

Nostalgia ftl.

"Oh, woe, as me, the board is changing. It was so much better in the olden days. Thus, rather than do something proactive like leave or try to have fun anyway, I'll piss and moan about how much better the old days were."

Choke.

Personally, I think the place is less fun because it's so much more hostile. See the abovve post. I really don't think a post ending in "Choke." is proactive towards trying to keep the place rather fun. Honestly, IMO, people who tell everyone to try to be more proactive towards the cause of making this place - not exactly like it was, I think it's unanimously agreed to that times and people change - as fun as it always has been while doing nothing good themselves are far more irritating than those that don't try to keep this place entertaining. I think what you're remembering is a time when one didn't add "If there's an offensive reply, there will be flaming."

But IMO, instead of simply wishing the past were still here, why don't we try to have fun in the present and in the future, too? I don't think things are going to go back. Stoptreating it as a given that the present and future will always suck. In a way, wtithout the other part of the post, I agree with Bat: don't just sit here and dream about 2003. Maybe if this place would be a bit more entertaining and a bit less frustrating, A lot of people would still be around.

And before anyone tries to turn this on me with a meaningless "WELL YOU DON'T DO MUCH YOURSELF SX" - I've had a far more fun time in the past year than I did the year before, or any time before that. I've become more active, and with FlashChat I've found what's usually hte center of my day in the attached RP Room, and despite continuous flaming and harassment about mostly-untrue perceptions of our activites, we have a lot of fun. it still exists here, Fun. You just have to make it.

Thundie, people change. I don't think you've ever understood that people here are more than just silly gimmicks like paradoxes and ambiguous sexualities - they actually grow up and get tired of all that. You aren't actually doing anything to combat this...downfall, aside from contributing to the "meaningless spam" that you speak of. If you think that spam and chatting shouldn't be the focus of this board, then go create some good, serious, on-topic discussions. Perhaps others would catch on and generate some real activity.

Christ, you speak as if the MoFo is a horrible, corrupt, joyless, almost barren place just because some @#%$ hacked ezBoard and people are starting to grow up. Cope with it.

I'm not even going to bother with the nostalgia, since I've done it a million times and still do it semi-regularly in the chat.

It's funny to me that you should say the golden age of the board was 2003-2004. I would probably say it was 2001-2002. Someone older than myself might say it was 1999-2000. Which brings me to my point: It isn't "the board" that is changing. It's not sentinent and the hack really didn't make a huge difference. I never personally spent my time looking at years old threads. It isn't "the forumers". I mean the new people who I thought were awesome 5 years ago are probably not that much different than the new people now.

It's you. Deal with the fact that you're growing toward something else. You've probably made some friends here and that's nice. But there comes a point when you ultimately realize that it's never going to be the same as it was for you at one certain point of your life and that has as much to do with how YOU were then as how everything else was. The internet isn't a new thing anymore and neither is this board.

Edit since I missed your post while composing: I agree with the whole "it's you" thing, Astrid, but I feel the community change detailed in my original post below is a bigger factor.

Trying out solar policy made me understand just how much the general populace has changed. The majority of the INSANITYANDFUN people have either grown out of it, become less active, a combination of the two or just moved on entirely. I came to realize that no regulation changes can do much because the assery or asshats has/have become an actual part of the community.

As it has already been noted, the collapse of the Sonic franchise most definitely has not helped. The fun and excitement of being a Sonic fan has drained from most, and some have found their entire affiliation destroyed. Make no mistake, though; the spark is still there. We'll always have a portion of that oldskool fun-fun lying around somewhere.

In the last thread on this I said that the only thing I can count as having a longing for is any lack of complaining there may have been. This has not changed. New age MoFo: Less drama, more b***hing.

This is the fifth topic like this in like two months.
You weren't even here for "the good times," Thunder.

Didn't we have this topic last year?

We had this topic like last month, if memory serves.

Nostalagia stuck me this day.

This is the fifth topic like this in like two months.
You weren't even here for "the good times," Thunder.

You bastard, Geogwe. I rejoined under "Thunder2" in 2003. Get that in your head.

you speak as if the MoFo is a horrible, corrupt, joyless, almost barren place

Actually, it's not far from that...in my opinion.

It's funny to me that you should say the golden age of the board was 2003-2004.

You've probably made some friends here and that's nice.

I've had more progress making friends in the past three months in Second Life than in the past three years at this forum.

lol Second Life

"I've had more progress making friends in the past three months in Second Life than in the past three years at this forum."

Too bad Second Life is a God-awful abomination made for sweaty nerds with no lives to create virtual furry strip clubs. And don't tell me wrong, I actually spent time playing it. Yeah, not everyone's a cybersex-obsessed loser, but most are.

Oops, off-topic, soz. I just hate that game with every fiber of my being.

Wow. Thanks for the examples, guys.

"Wow. Thanks for the examples, guys."

Welcome.

Mostly I'm annoyed by all the topics who try and make me sad with this dead horse.

you speak as if the MoFo is a horrible, corrupt, joyless, almost barren place

Actually, it's not far from that...in my opinion.

Nobody's stopping you from leaving, kid. You think this place is so bad? There's the door. Have fun on World of Payforvirtualanimalsexcraft, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Still do there, Nancy Drew...

We can whine about how the place "isn't as fun as it once was", but that's all a load of bull. The only thing that's changed here is you. Go watch Season 1 of Scrubs... There's an episode that deals with this problem...

So yeah. If you don't like it here either 1) Step in and try to fix it or 2) GTFO... and definitely 3) Stop your whinning... It's annoying

I don't have to explain why the board is less fun than it used to be. I think half the replies to the thread are excellent demonstrations of it.

There's not much we can do about it. Aside from banning everyone with a negative attitude, but what fun is a board with 5 active posters?

~Tobe

There's 5? LIES! ALL LIES!

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No it wasn't the hack. I joined in 2004. It was i who ruined the mofo! you all learned to hate due to me*. Why would people want to be in a community with me? beside my charisma and awesomeness like truck norris?

*hsw already had a masters degree by the time I came in hating.

I wish i was older when i joined up, so i could appreciate the greatness of the forum being at it's peak more, rather than flaming/bashing craig the whole time. N_n

And despite us in majority thinking that all new members aren't fun anymore and that all the older posters are more fun, we're forgetting that there is a few new ones who are cool. Don't ask me though, I can't name one lmao... BUT I'M SURE THERE IS ONE.

Oh the contrary the newbies are usually the best ones. And its not the mofo as a whole that makse people feel its a less friendly place. Most of the people here are awesome. But just like any social group its a few bad apples that bring everyone down.

The solution? Ignore them.

~Tobe

-That or wait till Sam gives me blessing to be acting lead admin so I can kick them all out. LAWL :3

Literally. There's an ignore function.

Ugh. I think the reason it seems less fun is the fact that people continue to post pointless flaming in a topic such as this; and nothing is done.

I mean, I try to point this out, and it's actually given a [You're] Welcome! Then continued! I'm not saying ban any and all clouds - I like posting here, myself. I'm saying that the rules are blatantly laughed at. Were they back then?

I am of the firm belief that this can be fixed with yiff. *nods sagely*

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This can all be an opinion. 2003-2004 was the year you joined, and you saw how unique the place was, and you were thrilled about everything that went on inside it. But as time goes on, things change a bit, and you're stuck remembering when "things were good." This can go for anything.

I joined in 2001, and I could easily say that was the best era. Huge skits galore, the more frequent hilarities of Dub, the hilarious Vortex's Box, just a general lack of seriousness, etc. Someone who came here just this year could say what we currently have here is the best era.

Thing is, people just change over time. We were all a lot younger back then, a lot more carefree. Some have moved on to a new chapter in their life, leaving this place as a secondary concern. Places have changed too. The once comedy goldmine that was MFCentral has become more of a NewsCentral, leaving the comedy section moreso to the SPA. That's not a bad thing, though. The comedy's still there, just shifted over a bit in favor of a new place.

As Bat was saying, enough complaining about it. Anyone can simply complain about something. But why not take that mentality and make something that will make people say "this is how the MoFo should be" instead of "that's how the MoFo was."

A single franchise brought us all together (or two if you're more of a Megaman fan). And who knows, maybe the falling of those franchises could be tearing us apart? We were accepting and we were one. But perhaps my shallow 11-year-old memory leads me to remember what I want to remember. I don't really know where I'm going with this.

But if this bickering at eachother continues, I think I can hear Creo's train beeping in the distance.

Now who wants ice cream?

Trains honk

....really loud.

BTW frickin' dancing Pikachu's need to die; Acrio -.- Right now -.- Fake arse Alvin-and-the-Chipmunk getup Pikachu's -.-...

Why of course. How silly of me. Little Volkswagen Beetles go beep as they're skittering around the roadside before crashing into an inconveniently placed hotdog stand. Trains are more like tanks, and their horn spreads fear echoing throughout the land, knowing that whatever is crashing into you is going to keep chuggin' along.

But you get the general jists of the picture. Beep, honk, whatever sound comes out of their choo-choo blow holes. I think it's a bit more of a BWUUUUUUUUHHHHWWW sound, but that's getting a little technical.

I thought they wint Miiiiiip. But maybe it's just the difference in region?

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Where have they all gone? While some of them have returned over time (Harley, for example), the rest are gone forever, while the ones who are here have lost their touch. What happened to Craig's severe reaction to paradoxes? Or Harley's raving discussions about sex and corruption? What gender does Acrio actually prefer? Is there proof? And why has HSW been posting the same phrase repeatedly with no apparent purpose? (If you do it here, HSW, in this non-spam topic + subforum, I'll consider it flamebaiting.) Why are there so few projects going on? Why has the focus of the MF turned to meaningless spam, where threads go off-topic after the first two or three posts?

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It's called real life. We saw, we came, we moved on, and we returned if we need the nostalgia. The fact that Sonic games have not been popular (not to mention faulty and buggy) doesn't help bringing new members to the fandom.

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I disagree with your time frame. I believe that it was the time when WB was a regular poster (then one of the board administrators of this board) and when PiE was still a mystery on what it meant (and people left and right were using the word without a clue on what it meant: "PiE on a stick anyone?") that were truly the best times the board had. Sadly, I came at the end of that era. The rest is pretty much history.

I don't know... I've only been here since last April, just a few months before the EzHack of '05. I don't think I can really consider some point in time a golden age.

I do think that there is some hostility around here, but that doesn't seem to stop all the craziness I always happen to witness, you know?

I'm still around, even though I'm less active than I used to be, but I still find myself laughing and some insane topics and posting in there once or twice as well. Can't say the same for the few RP's I've been in (I sometimes think I've killed one or two <<; ).

When I joined the MoFo back in October 2002 I remember there was a lot going on and the place was pretty alive, but I was very young and therefore immature at that time (I was 12) and my english was not yet very good (even though I was the best of the class thanks to internets and pokemon games) and so I didn't get most of the jokes.
So, even though perhaps it was a more lively place back then, I'm having more fun now, because I'm actually part of it!
Like SX I think you should contribute to make it a funnier place instead of just remembering the "old times". Try to make the MoFo into the place you'd like it to be!
(And hope for a good sonic console game while you're at it, because it'd certainly improve the general mood over here.)

I disagree with your time frame. I believe that it was the time when WB was a regular poster (then one of the board administrators of this board) and when PiE was still a mystery on what it meant (and people left and right were using the word without a clue on what it meant: "PiE on a stick anyone?") that were truly the best times the board had. Sadly, I came at the end of that era. The rest is pretty much history.

What DOES PiE mean anyway?

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Ahahahaha....AHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAAAA!

AAAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAHAAAHHAAAAAA!

Oh okay thanks <3 @ Crim

You bastard, Geogwe.

My parents are beyond their 30th anniversary. I can't even buy a beer yet.

If you go to Urban Dictionary website (watch the language used) or Wikipedia (the disambiguation page), you'll find the slang definition for the word, SX--and the one that many were unwittingly using.

Oh, and I always love topics like these because I've seen them so many times starting from the move from Discserver to Ezboard. Which means I've been seeing these topics from mid/late-2000 and will continue to see them until I die or stop coming, whichever comes first. 😀

It'll be when you die. No one EVER stops visiting. They just take breaks. ^^

"It'll be when you die. No one EVER stops visiting. They just take breaks. ^^"

Yeah, just ask CjTails!

If you want to help the MoFo, post good topics. That is not a snarky comment but advice.

The Golden Age IMO was late 2000 to summer 2001. We were finally getting the idea of how to handle a multi-forum board and EZ was top quality back then. In summer 2001 we had some controversies and rule issues and people got mad, vs. the extremely open atmosphere that had been up before.

But go ahead and make a new goden age. We will get plenty of newbies if SHQ non-comics is updated more and people post interesting topics that get those newbies to stay. Many of our new members right now post in Knothole.